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Coaching Search Non-Update. Ron Musselman hashed over the coaching search again, and apparently talked to people, including an unnamed agent who thinks the job is "toxic." Musselman... Musselman... If I were him, I would've changed my name to MUSCLEMAN. ALL CAPS. [flexes]
Oh, about the column... Whatever. He knows about as much as we do.
[Firmly Affixes Tin Foil To Head] The University Park Police detective that investigated the 1998 incident thought that he had enough evidence to go forward, but the since-disappeared Ray Gricar shut him down.
I've Missed You, Schadenfreude. Daniel "Rudy" Ruettiger got pinched by the SEC in a stock scheme. He and several others tried to sell people on an energy drink named "Rudy" which sounds completely terrible and like something I don't want to drink. Also, he was offsides.
That Must've Left A Mark. The Lady Lions beat Wagner 103-42 on Sunday. Just your average, every day 61 point win.
Tonight's Viewing. FIU is playing Marshall in the Beef O'Brady's Bowl tonight. Tune in to see the possible future Pitt or (hopefully) Penn State head coach, and just how unbelievably awesome he is.
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I am deeply insulted
by your suggestion that Ron Musselman knows even remotely as much as anyone on this blog.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
by PSU_Buch on Dec 20, 2011 2:19 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Every time someone published S with H
a big story comes out 10 mins later. Ohio State to lose 9 scholarships, ineligible for bowl game next season.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I'll throw Jacobi some pageview
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I keep forgetting we have a man inside CBS.
Maybe we can get him to put ground glass in Doyel’s lunch…
I’ll tell you why. Because we’re talking about Joe Freaking Paterno here.
-Jitterbug
by leeharvey418 on Dec 20, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Well at least it's finally (hopefully) over.
9 schollies over 3 years? Meh, guess they successfully painted Tresselvest as the lone wolf responsible for the majority of it. Better than their self imposed crapola though.
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
When you include the FTM charge levied after the Di Geronimo stuff...
… I think the punishment fits the crime. I’m just pissed at how poorly Gene Smith handled this whole thing. Should have self-imposed a bowl ban for this year after the FTM charge came out on Nov. 5th (like most people were saying).
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 20, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, Gene has looked like a bumbling fool
for most of this. Yet, when compared to the braintrust here at PSU, he comes off looking like a genius.
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
As a couple people have pointed out on twitter
it pretty much wasn’t worse because the “star witness” didn’t testify, due to threats of bodily harm. And since the NCAA has no subpoena powers, they can’t force anyone to testify if they don’t want to. So OSU is pretty lucky in that respect.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Dec 20, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, you can't prove a negative.
We don’t know if it would have been worse or not, and we don’t know who the “star witness” was, and thus don’t know if he really was subjected to threats. Unfortunately, it wouldn’t surprise me if that were true. But I’m not going to say that a man received death threats when no one knew who the man was. I’m pretty connected with the tOSU athletic department. I have the assistant AD’s number in my cell phone. And even I don’t know who the supposed star witness was, so I’m not sure how some other people knew who to loft threats at.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 20, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting
Do we know for a fact that this “star witness” even exists?
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
If I had to guess...
It was either Dennis Talbot or Bobby DiGeronimo. Those are the only two that come to mind. I’ve sent out a few texts. I’ll keep you updated.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
please do!
and you are right that you can’t prove a negative. But honestly, I still do think that the punishment is just. Honestly, USC got worse for fewer players and an assistant, not head coach.
Fire Dan Snyder
Oh, I agree. I think the punishment fits the crime.
Just pissed how Smith handle it. As for USC, they got slapped with Lack of Institutional Control (the NCAA’s ultimate violation) because not only was the assistant involved, he was helping facilitate it, and it crossed over to the basketball program (OJ Mayo), not just the football program. But I think USC’s penalty was too harsh too, especially considering Bush had been gone so long.
What I’m hearing from my buddy in the Athletic Department:
- It’s news to him that there was someone that didn’t cooperate. He has no idea who it would have been.
- Gene Smith will not last the academic year. He could be let go as early as mid-January (read as: whenever the Trustees get back from their winter travels).
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 20, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Update...
I have CONFIRMED that neither Dennis Talbott nor Bobby DiGeronimo were the alleged uncooperative source.
The NCAA report also does not mention an uncooperative source, so I’m thinking this whole thing is bogus. Classic withc-hunting, which I’m afraid my PSU fans are all too familiar with right now.
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 21, 2011 1:28 AM EST up reply actions
The "star witness"
is probably referring to Pryor and once he was no longer with the team didn’t have to talk. At least, that was my first assumption.
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
Ooohhhh, it's the other, less powerful SEC
The one that oversees finanical powerbrokers, not the fanatical, hillbilly footbaw types.
OOOOMMMMGGGG...
SSSS….EEEE….CCCC….regulations!!!!
"Wham! a homma. Wham! Another homma. Wham! Wham! Wham!"
by LowcountryLion on Dec 20, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, I was fooled too!
Considering how pathetic ND has been, I figured it was all about a victory they had 30yrs. being voided.
So, Joe from Boalsburg is an agent?
Also, I tried “Rudy” and it tasted like 23 year-old irish whiskey, tears and new Coke. It was overrated.
"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13
Zheero Zheero
Raised on Beatings, Second-Hand Smoke, and Liquor...I know nothing!
by joefromboalsburg on Dec 20, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Have I missed the angst over Shane McGregor
likely starting against Houston? McGloin had his block knocked off…
Bolden is stealing Gatorade

And PJ may or may not be eligible based on academics.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Not sure where you got likely from
Neither McGloin nor Bolden looks like they’ll be ineligible (maybe some sort of informal, team punishment) and Jones was announced as being eligible for the bowl game by Bradley yesterday.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Ah...missed that
I’ve been asleep…thanks for the update.
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
That said, I'd be happy
if McGregor saw some PT. In the 4th Quarter. Which would mean we’d be up by 3 scores.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
You knocked my block off!

Drake in Blue, McGloin in Red
"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)
Detective thought he had enough evidence to go forward...
Of course he did. He’s not the one who has to sell that bullshit to 12 people he doesn’t know.
In the past 10 years, I cannot ever remember an instance where I walked into a magistrates office, courtroom, or conference to discuss a criminal case and the police officer involved didn’t think he had enough evidence to go forward. Even when the assistant D.A. on the case tells the officer there’s not enough evidence, i’ve seen officers argue they had enough evidence.
Yeah
I’d say the actual detective involved is one of the worst people to ask about that. If they are passionate about their job at all, they’ll ALWAYS believe they had enough (or could have gotten enough if given the time and resources) to go further. Nothing wrong with that mentality, but that’s essentially like interviewing Michael Jordan about a game his team lost at the buzzer and asking him if he’d have made the final shot if given the opportunity.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Very good point.
Also, prosecutors are by their nature looking to score points in the minds of the public. Given the opportunity to nab a high profile guy who may be a sex offender, most prosecutors wouldn’t just close the case. Rather, they’d tell the detective “Find me something to work with. Get me the evidence I need!”
by TheHumbleBuckeye on Dec 20, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yes. And it's a double-edged sword.
They would be even less inclined to go forward with a case against a big name like Sandusky unless they had good evidence. You lose that one and it’s not like you lost a retail theft against a no-name junkie or a DUI against your average-Joe…You lose that one and it may be front page news on the NYT, Washington Post, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, and Phila Inquirer.
Losing that kind of case is essentially handing over a full powder keg to your political opposition in the next election. It’s no surprise Gricar didn’t want it unless it was a case with a ton of evidence.
that is actually even more indicative of how
poor the evidence must have been. The standard for cys to indicate someone as a perp is much much lower than you would need for a criminal conviction.
That says worlds about the evidence Mr. Detective had gathered.
by rodney20 on Dec 20, 2011 9:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That low standard--'to indicate someone as a perp'
Apparently allows for admission by the accused that he showered, naked & alone, with an adolescent boy.
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Make sure this dead horse doesn't move while I go get my beatin' stick.
Typical of the PITTSBURGH Post-Gazette.
I read that article earlier today and wasn’t surprised to hear the so called “toxicity” of the PSU football coach job. Amazing how the PSU head coaching job is toxic and the Pitt head coaching job is one of the most attractive. Only in Pittsburgh could that be the paradigm.
Musselman should simply clam up.
I took a look at the comment section on ESPN from the article linked here...
And the tide is turning.
I cant believe it, but I’d say its 85% to 15% Saying “Fuck you” to trolls (A Michigan fan especially, who wouldnt know a clue if I beat him on the head with it) bashing Paterno and are coming around and actually defending Paterno.
The general consensus is that “Yes, it is possible he should have done more” but I am completely shocked that the bashing has subsided so much.
"I will not stop supporting PSU nor will my children because of one guy’s actions. Its that simple. I tell the people who give me grief about PSU to stop watching ESPN and wait for the facts to come out before they have to pull their foot out of their mouth and my foot out of their asses."
History will be more fair
If Joe ever gets a chance to completely tell his side of the story in court or before a respected interviewer, more people will understand. He may have blown it, but the evidence shows he was at least trying to handle it properly.
Most of the national media has used this as an excuse to show off their prejudices against all of us rubes here in flyover country with our barbaric ball games and false idols.
They won’t apologize any more than they apologized to Rashard Casey or the Duke lacrosse team.
I’ve observed that newspapers tend to give columns to their people who can’t do actual journalism. TV is even worse.
by reedjohnmiller on Dec 21, 2011 1:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions

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