Big Ten, Pac-12 Partner Up, Awesomeness Ensues
by Peter Gray on Dec 28, 2011 3:35 PM EST
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PrintThe Big Ten and Pac-12 have announced that the two conferences will join together in a partnership that will include everything from TV rights to out-of-conference scheduling. The partnership will include not only football, but also basketball and other Olympic sports.
This is a massive, massive win, not only for Penn State, but for the fans. We've long complained about Penn State's lack of courage when it came to out-of-conference scheduling, and this deal will help lay some of those complaints to rest. Starting in 2017, Penn State will play at least one Pac-12 team every year. Basically, those who have suggested there be a football version of the Big Ten/ACC Challenge just got their wish. It was also announced that the conference schedule will remain at eight games for the foreseeable future.
Aside from scheduling, this deal represents just how forward thinking the Big Ten and Pac-12 are. It's been suggested that the conferences will create another bowl game, which I can only imagine will be owned by the conferences, thus cutting out the middleman bowl executives that cause teams like Clemson to lose almost $200,000 by accepting a bid to the Orange Bowl. The potential from here on out is just crazy to think about. Jim Delany may not be the most lovable man in the world, but the man's business hustle is undeniable.
So, first thing's first. Which Pac-12 team would you first like to welcome to Beaver Stadium?
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IT'S A MUST
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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@runthedive
by Peter Gray on Dec 28, 2011 3:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
To your question
USC to visit State College. UW for the first away game that I would attend.
"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13
Thank you.
I thought so based on the sides of the stadium but it looked orange and blue in there which made me think of Florida, and with it called the Swamp, it sort of fit but the stadium didn’t fit right.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Penn St. vs. Oregon
Because one has a uniform that is classy, traditional, and dignified, and the other is Oregon.
Everyone fails. The successful learn from their failures. I just wish we'd quit giving ourselves so many learning opportunities.
by WhiteSpeedReceiver on Dec 28, 2011 3:42 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
As long Oregon brings their cheerleaders
i won’t really notice what their football players are wearing
by PhilaLion on Dec 28, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah.....
I’ve seen the USC squad at the Volleyball Final 4 a few years back at PSU…..they aren’t too shabby. I believe they are called the Dance Girls, but I may have been blinded by their obvious beauty to remember a name….sorry for the NON PC comment, but the truth’s the truth.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Dec 28, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure they are the "Song girls".
They wear sweaters. Not that I’ve noticed or anything.
It's Song Girls.
And nothing should look that good.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
not for nothing
Song Girls are beautiful, but Oregon cheerleaders are smoking frickin hot.
by PhilaLion on Dec 28, 2011 10:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
USC or UCLA to State College
I’d go to either Washington or Colorado for a road trip.
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
Oh man, I'd love to go to Boulder
No reason.
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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A good place to visit
Living there is weird, between the students, the noveau riche and hippies, would be a bit much after a year or two. I really enjoyed being there for a week though. It is a trip I’d love to take again.
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"students, the noveau riche and hippies"
Exponential redundancy!
by Chris Grovich on Dec 28, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Not quite
The hippies are unemployed art and english majors
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Or like my friend
who actually majored in “Music.” Not performance…not education. Just Music. Ah, Boulder.
by ChicagoHoosier on Dec 28, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
But to your point, loved living in Denver, liked visiting Boulder.
I’d kill someone if I lived in Boulder, though.
by Chris Grovich on Dec 28, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
It looked like my brother was going to live out there
Not in the People’s Republic mind you, probably closer to Fort Collins. Would have loved visiting once or twice annually, especially in the winter. I was there one spring break and don’t think I saw a cloud. We had lunch outdoors most days, went skiing once. I’d love to see a ball game there too.
A Penn State game would be an excellent reason to go out there, but it might not happen for 24 years :\ if at all.
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I love living in Boulder
But then again, I don’t hang around with hippies. Can’t beat the location or scenery though! There are lots of PSU alums out here in the Denver/Boulder/Fort Collins area too (especially from meteorology, like me). Pat’s Cheesesteaks down in Denver shows PSU games every Saturday during the fall and is pretty fun.
Let's Go State!
by Gopher Broke on Dec 28, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Watched Michigan-PSU '05 in some big sports bar with hundreds of PSU fans
Left in silence. I didn’t speak to my future wife the entire ride home. That’s when she figured out how crazy and angry this dumb stuff makes me.
by Chris Grovich on Dec 28, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
Watched it in Pentagon City
We were dejected, decided to have an Irish wake at Sin’e. While we were outside eating our potato soup and drinking our Harp, Reggie Bush pushed Matt Leinhart into the end zone. The waitress told us people inside were crying.
The combination made us of all of that made us feel a little better.
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They hate the screaming
Silence is scary.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
If youse guys are talking about.....
Boulder Dam, I would like to go there as the 3-stooges played for them in the mid 30s.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Dec 28, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Boulder was overrun by the damn hippies
There are much, much, much better places to visit in Colorado.
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Dec 28, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely UCLA
so Rick Neuheisel can coach against his old team.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
by dbl5030 on Dec 28, 2011 3:43 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
Arizona State to Beaver Stadium
And bring the student body.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 3:48 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I bet you none of those girls have butts.
by misdreavus79 on Dec 28, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'd pay to find out.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Easy, easy, down Boys!
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by DerryPharmer on Dec 28, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
In that case the game should be held in Vegas
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
From left to right:
Madison, Chelsea, MacKenzie (“Son of Kenzie”), Ashleigh, Ashlee, Ashley, Madison
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 28, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I taught a class about a decade ago
which rostered five Brittanys, each with a different spelling.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
by SubLime on Dec 28, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was just like:
“freakin A, someone on BSD knows these chicks?!?!?”, then got to name 4 and 5 and LOL’ed
then saw the commenter’s name and REALLY laughed at myself for thinking that
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
I can't wait to play Texas
when they eventually cave and join the Pac-16.
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Yawn
If you dealt with Horns fans daily you’d be less excited.
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by stp147 on Dec 28, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
For the chronically underused ‘yawn.’
jtothetweet
Make sure this dead horse doesn't move while I go get my beatin' stick.
Oh, we know our Horns fans.
Right, ShaggyBevo?
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 29, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Better than A&M fans anyday of the week.
And twice on Saturday.
by CDRS on Dec 29, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
For obligatory Aggie reference.
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THE PACT OF STEEL
Year one of the PACT OF STEEL I want to see:
Oregon vs. Michigan: Michigan needs payback from that RichRod era crapfest. Hopefully by 2017 Michigan will be legit enough to handle this big boy match up. Or maybe Oregon will be back in the dumpster, in which case, satisfying payback blow out.
Ohio State vs. USC: Payback for their Pryor-era beat down losses.
Oregon State vs. Michigan State: The little brother schools can have the Little Brother Bowl and Michigan State can show it is the much, much bigger little brother.
Wisconsin vs. Washington: By 2017, Washington will be Texas Tech 2, and we can see the greatest dichotomy – Leach spread offense vs. B1G steamroller running game. This will be another affirmation that our system, our glorious culture, our way of life is superior! We must bury them!
Penn State vs. Arizona State: Most people won’t be excited about this match up, but imagine it’s five minutes before our first PAC-12 game in the new PACT OF STEEL. You don’t know who we’re playing yet, it’s a secret. You look into the eyes of your best Penn State watching friend. He/she tells you Penn State gets to play Rich Rod again, in a hyped game, to open a football season. Tell me you don’t beam with joy.
Colorado vs. Nebraska: Both fan bases will hate this. Colorado because they’ll lose so bad it’s not even funny. Nebraska because they left the Big XII to get away from these teams and will feel like short-changed outsiders in the B1G. “They’re still treating us like the new guys!”
Washington State vs. Indiana (conference doormats), Northwestern vs. Arizona (kitty cats), Purdue vs. UCLA (meh), Illinois vs. Utah (Indian mascots), Iowa vs. Cal (meh), Minnesota vs. Stanford (because I seriously couldn’t remember the last two teams in these conferences, and these are them)
Oregon vs. Michigan, you say?
Brings back my favorite picture of anything, ever:
(Sorry, can’t re-size from here.)
by Chris Grovich on Dec 28, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, there’s nothing wrong with the size. It’s one of the best there is.
by Kevin Powers on Dec 28, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK YOU LLOYD CARR
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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And the Whorse you rode in on....
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Dec 28, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
re: Oregon vs. Michigan
Now that I think about it, that might have been the 2007 post-App State Crapfest feat. Lloyd Carr. Still need their payback, though.
Nice, except that Leach is at Washington STATE, not Washington.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
Whoops!
You caught me, that’s how low on the radar both Washington and Washington State are for me. Reverse them, then. I know Washington is not currently the doormat they recently were, but maybe by 2017 they’ll be back down there.
There's also the fact that Rich Rod is coaching Arizona
not Arizona State.
by misdreavus79 on Dec 28, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
What's the difference?
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Seriously.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 28, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I could delete/edit my post
That’s what you get for skipping lunch and drinking twice as much coffee as usual during work.
Start listing your preferred neutral site game locations...
In no particular order…
Heinz Field
Lambeau
Soldier Field
Rose Bowl
San Diego (great city)
Seattle (also great city)
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
Barrow, Alaska
A pandemic of cowardice sweeps the nation.
by WorldBFat on Dec 28, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Medowlands
Yankee Stadium
Anywhere close to NYC, because I’m lazy.
by misdreavus79 on Dec 28, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
You must use Heinz Field.......
“the greatest venue for college FB ever” according to the sPitt PR people…..it must be since they draw an average of 24,000 when they play there.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Dec 28, 2011 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
That's a High School game.
And you know it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Yeah I thought that is what Pitt was
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
by AriesGD on Dec 28, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Uh huh...
Paterno won’t let then have the state title games at Beaver Stadium, while at the same time every kid within 75 miles of Pittsburgh dreams of playing at WPIAL title game at Heinz Field. Oh, and Pitt works it out so it’s the Pitt stuff that decorates the field, not the Steelers stuff.
Who’s an idiot. Credit, give it where it’s due.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
They tried
They had the state title games at Beaver Stadium a few times. It was lame. Even a big crowd – 40,000 – just rattles around in there. Hershey is more appropriate.
Edmonton has a big stadium. I’d love for us to play one of those southern teams up there in winter and see how they like it.
by reedjohnmiller on Dec 29, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm hoping for Arizona
Good memories from 1999 and my cousin is an alumna — family rivalry is always fun.
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Same
I’m in the bag for Arizona for personal reasons.
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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I vote not Arizona...
… because my cousin is in one of those “hot coeds of X school” pictures for Arizona and that is NOT OKAY.
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 28, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
She's not OUR cousin.
We want pics.
What the hell just happened?
by Pete the Streak on Dec 28, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Or was she in the most recent Girls of the Pac 12 issue?
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
From left to right:
Madison, Cerra (Pronounced “Sarah”), Sierra, Britnee, Taylor
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 28, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously,
you must have hacked my class rosters.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Close
Probably needs a Kaitlyn
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 28, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
It's a little disheartening
To walk into my mother’s child care center and see a toddler class full of future skrippas.
jtothetweet
Make sure this dead horse doesn't move while I go get my beatin' stick.
I like the idea
But the Pac-12 is not necessarily my first choice of which conference to partner up with. I would love to see a Big 10/SEC Challenge type of format, but I think this arrangement will create some cool road trips in the future. To answer the question, I would prefer USC to come into Beaver Stadium, but I would like to make a trip out the Rose Bowl for a road game.
F*ck the SEC
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
My point exactly
The hate would be much stronger in a challenge vs the SEC. Any chance to take them down is something I would like to see. Whether Purdue beats Washington St is not as interesting to me.
by mundyscorner99 on Dec 28, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
But beyond that, this is more than about football
Yes, football is far and away the primary consideration, but this also involves other sports and some academic cooperation (as mentioned in the article). The Pac-12 and Big Ten jive much better in that regard than the SEC and Big Ten.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Good points, but it is too bad some match-ups cannot happen every year or very often...
the home and home in the 80’s between LSU and OSU was awesome, 87 and 88 (sigh). Bama vs Penn St. just makes too much sense: classic match-up. Well, I grew up in the 80’s and SCar was not part of the SEC but I remember the ’85 Michigan vs S Carolina game back then and thought that one had some potential to grow into a rivalry. (SCar looked much better with red helmets I thought)
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
They have too much speed so.....
you’l never be able to catch them.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Dec 28, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Perhaps
But I think every opportunity they get to have everyone think they are the greatest conference ever they would probably consider.
by mundyscorner99 on Dec 28, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
they already have that opportunity
they signed a contract with ESPN which, according to the terms, must force-feed that sentiment down the public’s throat no matter how uninformed it is.
Considering...
Florida hasn’t played a non-conference road game outside of Florida since they played ‘Cuse in 91, I don’t see that happening.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 28, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
The SEC already worked out a plan with SoCon and the Sun Belt
No room for a deal with the Big Ten
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by Dan Vecellio on Dec 28, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Also, does the SEC have the same amount of Olympic sports as compared to
The BIG and the Pac 12? Since thsi deal will affect them alot I don’t htink the SEC has the same level or amount as we do.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
If I recall,
the SEC school average is something like 10 fewer non-revenue sports than B10 schools.
Leaders Co-Champions
by PSUinBOSSton on Dec 28, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
SEC?
They don’t like playing football when the temperature drops below 60. Brrrrrr!
Too bad we're not playing the SEC in Dallas
I hear it’s barely going to hit 50 on Monday. Better break out my winter coat, gloves and hat.
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I guess I am the only person that doesn't like this deal.
Not that I’m against playing Pac 12 schools, but I definitely prefer to have teh independence to schedule whomeverTF we want, wheneverTF we want for our non-conference slate. This pretty-much ensures that we will have no good eastern or southern schools on the schedule in the foreseeable future.
I actually think it ensures
at least two solid opponents per year. A MAC, a 1-AA, a Pac 12 and another solid team. This doesnt go into effect until 2017 for football, by then the commitments will all be up and you can start fresh. schedule home and home with a school, and make sure you are home the same year that you are away versus the Pac 12, and vice versa. Youll get the same amount of home games youd normally get.
The only thing i worry about is that when they say “\they play no one” They will disregard the Pac12 game the same as they do conference games.
Works in theory...
won’t work in practice. PSU, OSU, Michigan & Nebraska aren’t going to be scheduling anyone decent for a home-and-home once this thing starts. They have too much $$$ to lose.
Seriously, when is the last time we played two good non-conference games? Temple, while respectable, doesn’t count as a good non-conference game in my book. I’m talking about a marquee non-conference game.
It depends how you define "marquee non-conference games."
We played two BCS conference schools in 2008, Syracuse and Oregon State. Those aren’t exactly top tier programs, but I don’t think any school from the Pac-12, outside of USC and possibly Oregon, could guarantee any higher profile when the game is scheduled years in advance.
by VVeRPennState on Dec 28, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I would define Syracuse as a marquee match-up...
but you’ll be very pressed to find that type of scheduling in the future. Oregon State Agree to play a home-and-none that year to fill PSU’s scheduling void. Neither Syracuse, nor any other program with reasonable name recognition is going to agree to do a home-and-none with PSU in the future.
2020 and 2021
We have a home and home with Syracuse, do you expect us to break that agreement?
by SCsprinter13 on Dec 28, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Just IMO?
I doubt it. It’s possible, but I doubt it.
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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I'm happy to hear that...
But I would wager that has more to do with the contract already being in place prior to this deal with the Pac 12. I wouldn’t look for that to happen in the future.
And let’s not forget, PSU paid out the a$$ to have Oregon State come to Happy Valley for a home-and-none to fill their scheduling void. I seriously doubt PSU will be willing to do that again unless we have another scheduling problem.
youd have to think the schools took this into account.
I doubt they all signed off on it knowing their OOC schedules would become stale. I think they are prepared to beef up their schedules. I think this is solid evidence to that effect
It probably makes scheduling easier. It's one less school to coordinate.
But I don’t look for PSU to be scheduing any beefcakes in years when they have to play Pac12 teams.
I hate the inflexibility it poses.
it also puts ND in an interesting position
Michigan, Purdue and Michigan State will all have to re-evaluate that game.
It is funny watching all these conferences trying to edge each other out of existence.
Odds are this move is just the first small step in the distancing of big time college sports and the NCAA. It starts with the Big 10 and Pac-12, but it is only a matter of time until the SEC and the remnants of the ACC/Big12/Big East join in.
Just a thought
but would people rather have a rotating schedule, a schedule based on who finished in what order the year before [i.e. 1 plays 1, 2 plays 2 etc.] or a set rival from the Pac 12 that we play every year. Depending on who was our rival, I would prefer the set game.
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
Not a fan of the fixed rival
Enough of those in-conference…I want the OoC game to be a marquee matchup. I’m intrigued by the idea of 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, etc. That could be pretty cool, but it might also be cool to travel to other locations every now and then.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Although the 1 vs 1 scheme would limit the marquee matchups to the top 3 or 4 teams, usually
I’m not sure that matters. There is no such thing as a marquee matchup involving Indiana.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
I think it makes more marquee matchups. What would you/tv execsrather have USC vs Indiana and Penn State vs Oregon State or USC vs Ohio State and Penn State vs. Washington
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
Are we saying the same thing?
The equal ranking scheme (1 vs 1, 2 vs 2) creates marquee matchups (i.e., two good, closely matched teams) but probably only down to the 3rd or 4th ranked teams. Beyond that, the teams are evenly matched but not very good (in most seasons). USC vs Indiana isn’t marquee because Indiana sucks and the final score is pretty much a foregone conclusion.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Dec 28, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
ok yeah then
I thought you were saying would get more marque matchups by going randomly
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
and another thought
USC, Michigan state, Michigan etc. having to commit this game and is it 9 conference games that they play? Where does this leave ND? hopefully begging a conference to let them in and all conferences telling them where they can go
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
Hopefully, Notre Dumb will simply vaporize and
disappear altogether.
This puts the squeeze on ND big time
Because their elbow room in USC, Sparty and UM’s non-con slate just got a lot smaller.
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And Purdue to that as well.
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by Dan Vecellio on Dec 28, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like conference play will remain at 8 games
A quote from the post:
“It was also announced that the conference schedule will remain at eight games for the foreseeable future.”
I read this to mean the B10 will defer/abort the 9 game conference schedule announced earlier in the year.
SO HAPPY.
Would love road trips to Colorado & Arizona State. Easy to fly into, interesting things to do. Maybe add Stanford in there as well.
Less excited about trips to WSU & OrSU. However, I imagine they’ll “rank” these so that the big dogs play the big dogs rather than put Indiana up against Oregon.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Dec 28, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions
Speak for yourself on PSU's (or anyone else's) "lack of courage" being a negative thing in scheduling
PSU hasn’t failed to win a MNC, in fact, no BCS team besides 2004 Auburn has not won an MNC, due to playing too soft of a schedule.
But I can point to plenty of 1-3 loss teams who haven’t won one because they played too tough of one. Just ask 2011 Oklahoma State.
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by ckmneon on Dec 28, 2011 4:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I understand your idea but disagree with example
OSU lost to a terrible Iowa State team. They didn’t “Play too tough of a schedule” if anything, their schedules weakness is what hurt them. Bama got credit for playing LSU and us
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
Okie st. played a really tough schedule...
what hurt Okie State is that they are Okie State. Simple as that. The polls count for 2/3 of the formula…no one outside of Okie wanted to see Okie State in the big game.
I disagree
they played Arizona who won 4 games – 2 against 1aa teams and one against ASU that couldn’t beat a HS team at the end of the season. It is argueable that the Big 12 was better than the SEC but regardless, no ne in that conference plays defense
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
Alabama
played 4 FBS teams with winning records, Ok St played 7. Alabama was ranked higher because they lost first and started higher. Not because they played so tough a schedule.
We Are!!!!!!
Oklahoma State also lost to Iowa State.
Not an irrelevant fact.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Oklahoma’s State’s SOS: Sagarin—#6, Colley—#5
Alabama’s SOS: Sagarin—#24, Colley—#26
Oklahoma State’s Consensus (Sagarin, Colley) top 20 wins: Oklahoma, Kansas State, Baylor
Alabama’s Consensus top 20 wins: Arkansas
Alabama had a more forgivable individual loss in a vacuum, but Oklahoma State had the schedule where an individual loss should have been more forgivable. They played more elite teams, and that wears on a team over the course of a season. That’s why it’s a perfect example. Oklahoma State played a better schedule and weren’t rewarded for it, whereas an easier schedule may very well have resulted in an undefeated team.
GO IOWA AWESOME
by ckmneon on Dec 29, 2011 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Synergy!
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
by MainLion on Dec 28, 2011 4:34 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I voted Colorado
only because the Buffaloes have been my second favorite team in college football since I was a kid.
Obviously, the first Pac-73 (this starts in 2017, right?) school to come to Beaver Stadium should be...
… the Oregon State Beavers.
Beaver Stadium...
Beavers…
Wait for it…
Wait for it…
by Tezcatlipoca on Dec 28, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
USC- It's revenge time
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Dec 28, 2011 5:14 PM EST reply actions
This is awesome
First of all, this is way better than a 9th conference game.
It will be like 12 ROSE BOWLS!
by newenglandnittanylion on Dec 28, 2011 5:22 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Bowl Game...
how is this going to work? I initially thought the losers of the respective conference championship games, but that would preclude them from a BCS at large birth. Unless, the PAC 12/Big 10 are not going to be part of the BCS going forward…
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 28, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions
Unless, the PAC 12/Big 10 are not going to be part of the BCS going forward
This is what I’ve wanted for quite some time. The B1G and PAC12 commit to playing for the Rose Bowl (National?) Championship and let the rest do their thing. There is a lot of population and money within the territory covered by the states comprising these conferences.
We would with one move completely delegitimate the BCS.
The secondary bowls would fall into place.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
There were stories not too long ago that the BCS might be reduced to only cover the national title game(s) and that the other bowls would no longer be tied to BCS rankings. I am not sure if that was anything beyond a rumor, but it would theoretically fit well into this plan.
by VVeRPennState on Dec 28, 2011 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Great scenarios
for all schools as mentioned above. PSU taking the field aagainst any of the PAC12 will be fun and interesting. I see it as better than another fcs or e mich. USC, WASH, STAN,ARI, ASU, COL, ORE- some great road trips and stadiums as well.
HOORAY
A totally FOOTBALL THREAD.
Poor Utah.
Who gets to play them first, Nebraska or Penn State?
Raised on Beatings, Second-Hand Smoke, and Liquor...I know nothing!
by joefromboalsburg on Dec 28, 2011 6:10 PM EST reply actions
Playing in the PAC-12
Utah might be in the top half of that conference by 2017. I wouldn’t mind seeing them in the Beav at some point. Washington and Colorado (in that order) would be my picks for the first road trips.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Obviously PSU......
because of the great Mormon concentration in Central Pa.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Dec 28, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I came up with this idea when I was 12.
Way ahead of my time. Oh, and this is the end of a college football playoff. And the BCS. We going back to bowl Dodge City.
The solution will be a plus one playoff game, with the participants being decided after the bowls are concluded.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Does this mean a reduction in the amount of hot MACtion that the B1G is involved in every fall?
Because I’m all for that going away, with a quickness.
Good bye Alabama.
Nothing changes about the scheduling except the profitability of it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
LA
for selfish reasons, but the Bay Area is pretty boss too
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
by hbeach08 on Dec 28, 2011 6:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I can get behind either of the LA venues...
and drive right up the 10…
All of our comments are irrelevant - LetsGoPSU
USC @ PSU
Would be awesome at Beaver Stadium in November.
I'm glad there won't be a 9th conference game.
I had no interest in seeing that.
I’d like to see Oregon here first only because I saw USC at Beaver Stadium in 1994.
Joe Paterno Apologist
Oh, thank God.
No 9th conference game? Thank God. That would have been horrible for scheduling.
I’m still not convinced this challenge business is an especially good idea though. Considering Penn State’s past scheduling tendencies, it seems quite likely that we’ll see two MACrifices (That counts Temple), an FCS team, and a Pac 12 team every single year. That might get boring, no?
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 28, 2011 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well....
You would know well in advance of when you were playing Washington State (although as I think about it, I can’t come with a single Pac12 team that always sucks, like say Indiana), and you could schedule more aggresively in those years.
My guess is this is a way that works in a ninth confrence game (which the Pac10 always did) without actually having to schedule it and screw-up the in league scheduling. And it secures the Rose Bowl, forever. And it makes the Big 10/Pac 12 the biggest dick at all future BCS/playoff prevention meetings.
Finally, it’s one last “are you sure guys” to Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame. I’d lay odds that this gets it done.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
If the Big 10 network
is a cash cow, as I’ve seen in other articles I’m too lazy to link here, hopefully that will generate enough revenue to lessen the need to FCS games. I agree I don’t want the only worthwhile game OOC every year to be Pac-12.
Joe Paterno Apologist
If the Big Ten Network is a Cash Cow.
Add Texas, Oklahoma and Notre Dame to the mix and what is the Big 10/Pac 12 channel?
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
A cash sperm whale?
Joe Paterno Apologist
by Joe 96alum on Dec 28, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
a large penis
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Dec 28, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
*figurative
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Dec 28, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
This is a big deal.
This is Penn State joining the Big Ten in 1991, seismic, even if you don’t notice at the time. The ripples off of this are going to effect college football for generations. Conferences are not going to poach teams any more, they are going to merge.
The people involved in this are thinking big. Take over the world big. It’s just the start. Mark my words, this deal is the most important thing that happened in college football…possibly ever.
This. Changes. Everything.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
This...
is why I think Delany and Scott are so far ahead of guys like Swofford and Slive. The SEC wants to be the best at football. The B1G and PAC-12 want to be the best at making money.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Dec 29, 2011 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
You know the benevolent Darth well...
As Delany noted after a dismal bowl season when the Big Ten went something like 2-7…
“The 7 losses are an issue for 7 programs to address. It’s not a conference issue.”
Proud proponent of the 52 team Uber Conference
The only way it would have been better
is if it had been a three way (get your mind out of the gutter) with the ACC. Think about it: guarantee a home and away game each year with a PAC12 and an ACC team, and screw the SEC. I imagine the ACC is closer to the B1G and PAC12 than the SEC in terms of Olympic sports. This would have been the move to completely squeeze the SEC. Now? Now the SEC and ACC reach an agreement and the Big12 and BE do the same.
"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13
by kijana's acl on Dec 29, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with this
I’ve seen a number of people wishing this deal had been reached with the SEC. I say fuck ‘em. The SEC is constantly propped up by ESPN and CBS for whatever reason at the expense of the rest of the country’s college football. The way I see it, the SEC has to be collateral damage in order to change the way college football works.
Right now ESPN/ABC controls college football because they put the games on TV. The B1G network proved that on a small scale, ESPN can be taken on. By combining the PAC12 and the B1G you are now finding ways to shut ESPN out during September because you can air your own games in almost every major market in the country. Combine this with the bowl game in which a middle man is cut out, and its a very good, measured approach to taking back college football.
The money stays in the PAC12 and B1G which goes directly back to the schools. Because the two conferences have their views similarly aligned in terms of academics as well, I see this as a step in the direction of taking college football back. All of this hinges on squeezing out the SEC. Hopefully the Big 12 chooses a similar deal with the ACC and the SEC does get left out in the dust.
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Dec 29, 2011 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I hope this is less like the PRR merging with the NYC and more like the UP merging with the SP.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 29, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
I would love us to play Stanford at Beaver Stadium. This sounds like a good idea to me!
by michellemtsu on Dec 28, 2011 8:59 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Paterno always talked about scheduling Stanford.
But it never happened.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
In hindsight
He probably wishes he’d done more.
by Jitterbug on Dec 28, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Playing Stanford would have required sacrificing being a football factory for academics.
Something Paterno would never, ever do.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Dec 28, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, we did play them in the mid-70s ('73, and '74 IIRC)
We won both games.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 29, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Will football games be a 1 and 1?
Or just a single game?
Doesn't sound to me like they are sure yet
I don’t think they have the details yet. Delaney seems focused on competition being a key element, with Scott focused on getting the Michigans and Penn States of the world playing on the road in Pullman, Corvallis, and Salt Lake. I think a lot of the exact details need to be worked out.
My guess is if they’ll be trickling out details over the next 6-36 months as schedules get worked out. Probably start with the smaller sports, and work their way up to football.
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