Everybody [please consider] Shut[ing] up About the Bowl Game.
by jesse. on Dec 6, 2011 10:38 AM EST
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PrintI was listening to the reactionary lunatics on sports radio here in Pittsburgh, and I performed an exercise that I often do. I stopped and asked myself, what would I say if somebody actually bothered to ask me what I thought about the bowl game? So I took a minute, and here is what I came up with. Penn State was picked 7th in the B1G pecking order, here is how I break it down;
First, the guys were 9-3 a good effort, but hardly worthy of the BCS. That’s the first two spots right there.
The next level is the Citrus Bowl/Outback Bowl /it makes no difference level. First, we were just in one of them last year [ED it was the Outback Bowl. jesse. Seriously, it doesn’t matter, they are the same game]. Second, Michigan State, by virtue of winning their division is guaranteed a spot in one of those games. Third, we lost to Nebraska, and they’ve [3b] never been to the Citrus Bowl. So I don’t really have a problem with us missing out on a badly overrated trip to Central Florida. Frankly, I’d rather go to Texas anyway.
Next up is the Gator Bowl. Obviously [and I mean obviously] the Gator Bowl takes Florida if it has the chance. I seem to have read somewhere that Penn State played Florida in a bowl game last year. So all things being equal, would you pass up the Meyer Bowl for giving Matt McGloin a shot at redemption? Do you realize Jacksonville, Florida may actually be the worst place in the United States? So, I’ll file this one under “legitimate reason/who gives a shit anyway”.
The Insight Bowl picks next, and this is the only place I think we got rooked. But let’s lead off the discussion by saying we got rooked out of the Insight Bowl, and measure our rage accordingly. While played in Sun Devil Stadium, the Insight Bowl is not the Fiesta Bowl, it is the Insight Bowl. I believe that it starts at 11:45 on New Year’s Eve, and it is televised by the NFL network. Next, have you ever tried to travel to Arizona in December, it is really expensive. So yes, I’ll concede that it would have been nice to get a crack at Oklahoma, but if this is the extent of how we got screwed this holiday season, deal with it.
We finish with the Texas games. One is Houston, the other is in Dallas. I don’t care what their names are, I could have looked them up, but I intentionally chose not to. It doesn’t matter. The Houston one took Texas A&M, who is 6-6. The Bowl Game is trying to set up a interesting game, and Penn State just played them a few years ago. Other than the fact that Reliant Stadium is nicer than the Cotton Bowl, how does this matter? Dallas is a better trip. The University of Houston is a better opponent. This is a nominal insult to our pride at most.
Finally, look at the B1G Bowl match-ups and divorce them from the location of the game. Other than Wisconsin, who clearly is playing a better game than us, who else has a better match-up? I don’t see one. Houston was a game away from the BCS, they are 12-1, they’ve got some legitimate NFL players on offense, and for the time-being at least, a real up and comer at Head Coach. You’d rather play South Carolina?
Suck it up. It’s not that big a deal.
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Agreed.
Apart from it not being that bad, we’re just dealing with the same thing that most schools have had to deal with for years.
Thanks for saying this.
Well played.
In the interest of full disclosure, the Cotton Bowl is around 50 miles from here, so, unless Tebow comes riding in on a white horse, eyes aflame, wearing many crowns, I’ll be there.
Are you saying he won't?
I don’t want to get into religion here, but I’m getting close to converting from Marley/Polamluism to Tebowism.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Polamalu-ism
seems like a religion that would be welcoming of the other religions. Could you be a Tebowan Polamalist?
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
It's welcoming, but a harsh mistress.
It involves deep meditation, then hurling yourself head first at something at precisely the right moment. It’s really all about the timing.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
All you have to do to add Tebowism
is meditate on one knee with your hand to your temple
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
haven’t found a cheap enough flight for the wife and I yet. Gonna have to beg my rich sister to maybe purchase our airfare using her frequent flyer points. She might, we’ll see. Or maybe she’ll send me an extra large check for Christmas. Still working on it. Not worried about purchasing game tickets early.
His legacy is US. The legacy of the young men who he took from a variety of backgrounds, races, religions, economic circumstances and set on a right path, and that's the legacy. WE ARE... the legacy, not his 409 wins and certainly not this incident." -Jimmy Cefalo
I was expecting something like, "life isn't fair, deal with it"
which is my initial reaction to all of those complaining about every one outside of PSU for PSU’s problems, but I think you probably took the better tact.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I would rather
watch a bowl game at 12n on Jan 2nd than watch a game at 10pm on a Friday night.
I think the Houston matchup will be a good one. I am going to purchase some bowl gear as usual, watch the game, and enjoy it.
Losing always sucks.
I don’t see your point.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I also don't like the "we can't win" aspect of the conversation.
Houston had their best season in near twenty years, and they had a better season than us. They deserve a chance to play against a quality BCS Conference team. Their kids earned that. So some shit happened, and we happen to be that team.
So be it. Game on.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
oh, I see now...
I didn’t mean that of course we would lose, I meant that if we lose I wouldn’t enjoy the game.
I am confident that we will win.
Holiday
Most companies I think are giving January 2nd as the New Years Day Holiday, since New Years Day falls on a Sunday. Hopefully that’s the case for you.
by Jeannine Pinaula on Dec 6, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
I get whatever I want.
Or do go to law school kids.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Dec 6, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Well I could just not show up.
Actually wouldn’t be a problem. Leads to long nights in December of course.
I might do this.
A pandemic of cowardice sweeps the nation.
Your classes start that early?
Where do you go to school? I don’t think we ever started before the second or third week in January.
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
No, this is the aftermath of law school, if you're lucky.
A pandemic of cowardice sweeps the nation.
oh misread your comments
weird you get Dec 30th. I work that day but have off the 2nd
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
the gov holiday is the second. Nothing will be open, financial or government related.
His legacy is US. The legacy of the young men who he took from a variety of backgrounds, races, religions, economic circumstances and set on a right path, and that's the legacy. WE ARE... the legacy, not his 409 wins and certainly not this incident." -Jimmy Cefalo
Doesn't affect my work.
But really I think I just won’t show up. “Work from home” day.
A pandemic of cowardice sweeps the nation.
Guess it's one way or the other
I don’t get December 30th, just Jan 2nd—works out well this year.
by Jeannine Pinaula on Dec 6, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
I appreciate the post jesse.
And frankly I’m happy with the result. We’re playing a 12-1 Houston team in Dallas on Jan 1st 2nd in our own time slot. With their defense, our offense might look competent. I fully expect Silas Redd and Green to both have 200 yard days on the ground. And McGloin to throw 4 times. Although, this is the type of defense that will make him look like a future Heisman candidate. I will happily drink from noon till 4 and then sober up and maybe go to work the next day. Maybe.
Plus, we’re playing in the cotton bowl. I’m definitely buying some cotton bowl swag. Also, Florida sucks. Let’s be glad we’re not going to that hell hole again.
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Dec 6, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
"Also, Florida sucks. Let’s be glad we’re not going to that hell hole again."
Yeah it totally sucks to go to the gas station and pick up a six pack, and then sit on my porch in shorts and a t-shirt in December and read BSD.
PA isn’t exactly a panacea either.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
I used to live in Florida (Boca Raton)
I got the hell out. I now live in the DC area. I’m much happier here.
Although, if I had it my way, I’d be in Arizona picking up a six pack at the gas station in my shorts and t-shirt in december.
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Dec 7, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Small world.
I moved to Boca from State College (well, short layover in Clearwater for a year) and lived there (break for college) from 1982-1996. Parents still live there, and the other set of grandparents (not in State College).
Of course the bowl games ain’t in Boca.
"Although, if I had it my way, I’d be in Arizona"
Yeah I could dig that too.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
Ok, wearing shorts in December is extremely overrated.
Variety in weather is good.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I've worn shorts to work everyday this month.
His legacy is US. The legacy of the young men who he took from a variety of backgrounds, races, religions, economic circumstances and set on a right path, and that's the legacy. WE ARE... the legacy, not his 409 wins and certainly not this incident." -Jimmy Cefalo
I mean, *having* to wear shorts because you live in a God-forsaken real estate scam of a swamp.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
"God-forsaken real estate scam of a swamp."
I’m telling you come to my house in Tampa, it’s like Valhalla. I get to live like a Roman, its indoor, outdoor lifestyle. Absolutely beautiful. Surrounded by green and blue 365 days a year. Hedonistic.
I grew up in Harrisburg and that place is a shithole of unmitigated proportions. A brown and grey frozen nightmare from hell. It’s all yours.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
Everyone here mocks Harrisburg.
Just ask Chris.
Your amazing hedonistic lifestyle will soften you up mentally, intellectually, emotionally, and physically and prepare you for a fall. Just ask the Romans.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 8, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I've lived in Rome
While its days as the center of civilization may have passed some time ago, it’s still a pretty Fing sweet place to live, year-round.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Don't make me post my "Living in Florida vs. PA" list again...
Seriously, twist my arm. Rambler never responded the last time.
*
"Your amazing hedonistic lifestyle will soften you up mentally, intellectually, emotionally, and physically and prepare you for a fall. Just ask the Romans."
Yeah I agree. I’m pretty much done with society. But it’s falling apart anyway so no big deal to me. It is degenerate down here but I just don’t care.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
What part of the Tampa area?
I go to Spring Hill about twice a year.
Tom Bradley for PSU Head Coach!
Follow @Paige2PSU
right near the airport about an hour south of there
Hopefully you don’t go during the hot hot summer!
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
I live in Alabama, at least y'all have a breeze.
I was there in August this year. Spent two days in Crystal River, then went to my friend’s house in Spring Hill. I’ve gone to Ybor and Channelside with her before. I LOVE Tampa. I’d move there in a heartbeat if I could!
Tom Bradley for PSU Head Coach!
Follow @Paige2PSU
Swimming with the Manatees huh?
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
In the Habitat for Huge Manatees?
I’ll tell you why. Because we’re talking about Joe Freaking Paterno here.
-Jitterbug
by leeharvey418 on Dec 10, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
HEY. DON'T YOU TALK ABOUT MY CIT--- Oh, wait. It is a depressing shithole of unmitigated proportions.
Carry on.
by Chris Grovich on Dec 10, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
Just know I did grow up there
I don’t say it insult the denizens of the City. There are some fine people there. And if an outsider insulted Harrisburg I’d jump to its defense.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
"Variety in weather is good."
Hey it’s a frigid 45 this morning and my cat’s all pissed off like it’s my fault. Winter is fun for about a month. Too bad it lasts for 6 months.
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
Franco Harris:
"If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time."
It's 30 here and the wind is 10 MPH.
But it’s sunny, so it’s brisk. And you’re a pansy.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 8, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't understand people who don't love winter.
I think it’s great.
by FB6244 on Dec 8, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At this time last year
I was living in Minnesota. The second week of November it snowed 16 inches. We got an additional foot each week until March. It was never above 15 degrees from December-February.
I’m living back in PA this year, and I am loving the fact that it’s still mostly above 40 right now. This is wonderful.
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Black Shoe Diaries
I like the match up just not the bowl.
I am looking forward to a tough game—we match up strength vs strength weakness vs. weakness with Houston, which should make for a great game and I have no issue with playing Houston.
I do however have issue with the fact that this match up is in the Ticket City Bowl and that OSU, Iowa and NW were taken ahead of a 9-3 PSU, that there are mutiple 6-6 teams picked ahead of PSU—and while I understand, and agree with some of Jesse’s points about the other games, it the principle of the matter. If this had happened pre-scandal, then I would have been upset, but not nearly as angry, it would have just been another reason to add to the list of why the BCS/Bowl System sucks.
This year, it’s just seems like another slap in the face to the players on this team, and it upsets me to see this team punished for things it had nothing to do with.
by Jeannine Pinaula on Dec 6, 2011 11:14 AM EST reply actions
Like I said above.
I’m not certain that this isn’t the result without the scandal. I’d lay odds that even without the scandal we don’t do any better than the Insight Bowl. And I’d have been satisfied with that.
Keep in mind, that the “scandal” means a lot of things, including the fact that the bowls think that a lot of Penn State fans will probably stay home this year.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Agreed
We may end up staying home this year, not because we don’t want to go, but the flights to Dallas are crazy expensive.
Hopefully there are more people who want to go now more than ever, because of the scandal, to show their support to this team.
by Jeannine Pinaula on Dec 6, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Good Point
that this may have happened regardless. Remember, this Penn State team was not popular with anyone out there before the scandal. We were the worst (however many losses we had at a given point) loss team in the nation according to all the media outlets.
Insight may have screwed us, but is there a single person (not living really close to Houston) that would have rather seen us play A&M than Houston? If so, get off the BCS conference is so much more important than non BCS conference kick. If our players do not, we may be facing a Utah-Pitt or Utah-Bama situation. Come to think of it, thank goodness we are not playing Utah.
by FB_Dive_or_Bust on Dec 6, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
We are breaking even over the past two years
Last year we were a worse team in a better bowl (as was our opponent). This year the opposite is true. TicketCity is actually one of the best matchups out there this bowl season. The only team screwing everyone else is Florida, as they have been terrible for the past two years yet they get decent bowls in each.
by FB_Dive_or_Bust on Dec 6, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
re: Texas A&M
Not to mention, a certain somebody was carried off the field on the players’ shoulders following our ’99 game.
Eww, yeah.
I can’t see us ever getting invited back to San Antonio. But the Riverwalk is overrated anyway. Too expensive and it’s nothing but chain restaurants.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Considering the Big Ten doesn't have ties to the Alamo Bowl
I wouldn’t count on us going to San Antonio anytime lately anyways.
That changes every few years.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I actually liked the river walk
and it is a short drive to the salt lick
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
The Insight Bowl starts at 10:00 - which isn't much better, but whatever.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
And I don’t understand what the Insight Bowl is thinking. Our fanbase isn’t that disappointed, we have alums in Arizona, Oklahoma has a huge fanbase, and Penn State-Oklahoma would have been a vastly better matchup.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 6, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
It may have more to do with the Fiesta/Insight bowl committee
Having already had a well-deserved dose of negative publicity this year and not wanting to bring more scrutiny to their organization than it already has had.
It’s a shame—I think Phoenix is one of the best of the bowl destinations and it’s been a while since PSU’s been there.
But I get it.
So
Are you saying that everyone in the world is a pussy?
I agree.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 6, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, that's what I'm saying.
Although not quite so crassly.
This probably has something to do with it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Seflishly
I would have preferred Tempe. I would have been able to go out and see my dad and a bowl game (that he already has tickets to. Damn corporate shmucks takiing all of the tickets from us fans)
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Dec 6, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Nit-picking Sarcasm.
I like it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Dude, I hate everything right now.
I mean, I bought a freaking Sonny and Terry blues album.
The only thing that comforts me is the Fat Axl Rose meme.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 6, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Probably means nothing to to you...
But String Cheese Incident tonite at Stage AE. I start drunk posting in about two hours.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I saw them years ago
They opened for Queens of the Stoneage who opened for the Red Hot Chili Peppers
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Dec 6, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I've wanted to see them for years.
But they mostly stay out west. But tonight they are about three miles from my house, which means I get the pre-party too. I’m really excited.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I was in high school
And didn’t really appreciate them. Especially since the reason for going was the RHCP. I’d like to see them again sometime
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Dec 6, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they're really not the same kind of bands at all.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
It seemed an odd choice to me
But they were only with the tour for a few dates. I think Mars Volta had just finished their small part of the tour before the String Cheese incident got a few dates.
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Dec 6, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
You know it's BSD
When a post about a bowl game turns into a discussion of the relative merits of Mars Volta and the String Cheese Incident.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I think Cedric should be the new OC
exoskeletal junction at the railroad delayed right on 2
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
"Three miles from my house."
Would that be in a van down by the river?
Joe Paterno Apologist
Close
But I can’t afford a fancy van. I live in a tent in the parking lot of the abandoned jail.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
If you move your tent up by the steel building
you can join the Occupy Pittsburgh movement.
Joe Paterno Apologist
I like the match up, yeah, could or should have been Oklahoma in the insight
but this is a good game. And I like the Dallas venue. Wish there were some cheaper flights from Harrisburg, DC, Baltimore, Philly, etc. Don’t care PSU was passed over now that we have a better game that most of the teams picked ahead. I agree that this year, even without the scandal would be the insight bowl at best so that is the only arguement.
His legacy is US. The legacy of the young men who he took from a variety of backgrounds, races, religions, economic circumstances and set on a right path, and that's the legacy. WE ARE... the legacy, not his 409 wins and certainly not this incident." -Jimmy Cefalo
But when you quantify it like that, it stops being that big a deal.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
didn't think it was big deal when it happened as soon as I saw the opponent
PSU gets the same bowl money split as anyone else in the BiG so it doesn’t matter. I just didn’t want a crappy match up when we got passed over. South Carolina would have been a nice game but UN beat PSU so its hard to argue that one. OSU can have Fla and this is a much better game than A&M. The Insight bowl going with Iowa, poor match up but Iowa travels well, especially to Arizona so, oh well. We get a possible match up with a Heisman winner, at least an all american.
His legacy is US. The legacy of the young men who he took from a variety of backgrounds, races, religions, economic circumstances and set on a right path, and that's the legacy. WE ARE... the legacy, not his 409 wins and certainly not this incident." -Jimmy Cefalo
I have calmed down a little bit,
from my Sunday night rage. And you make some excellent points, jesse. (do I have to put a period after that?). However, I watched the first half of the UAB/Houston game from great seats in Legion Field and I wasn’t that impressed. Case Keenum does have a quick, accurate arm, but they tried and had trouble running the ball against UAB (this is just the first half, mind you). Also, UAB got some pressure on Keenum, so imagine what Still and others can do. I don’t know how equal this matchup is, but in all consideration, it is a better matchup than any except Oklahoma.
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Still
You’re assuming Devon Still can get pressure on Keenum, since he isn’t worthy of being an All-American or anything. It’s not like he was the B1G Defensive Player of the Year and got passed up in favor of two other B1G defensive linemen or anything.
Yes, I am very much looking forward to Still eating Case Keenum alive.
I agree with you.
I never had a problem with the game and opponent. It’s an appropriate match-up between two similarly ranked teams.
Joe Paterno Apologist
The bitterness that has raged in my home......
has subsided with the fact that WE ARE not going to get a “better” bowl, so let’s support the Team and hope that the Team is concentrating on that game. Aside from TB being treated like he is part of the Scandal, I am still and will be bitter unless he is given the HC job….so it looks like I will still be bitter about that.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
Hey Man, I Live in Jacksonville...
okay, near Jacksonville and I can confirm that Jax IS the worst place in the U.S. In fact, it’s nearly a lock for worst place in the U.S. and Canada.
I agree tho…no way I want PSU to be here right now.
Anyway...
I heard they have fresh maple syrup, clean water, free healthcare, cheap hookers and friggin eskimos up there.
Suck it Jacksonville.
How does Jax smell – is it worse than Gary, IN?
He completed 17 of individuals 26 passes for 192 lanscaping your yard and two touchdowns - Chan Luu
Does Gary really smell any worse than Lock Haven?
I’ll tell you why. Because we’re talking about Joe Freaking Paterno here.
-Jitterbug
by leeharvey418 on Dec 8, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Found myself in Camden on Sunday
While it was pretty dire, I wouldn’t say it was any worse than most blighted out parts of North Philly/Kensington. I guess Philly has more on the positive side of the ledger than Camden, but the bad areas of Camden probably take up as much geography as North Philly.
Other than that, I’ve been around different “bad” parts of Brooklyn (Crown Heights, Bed Stuy), the Bronx, and Newark, and I’d say that Newark was the one that made me feel the least safe.
All that said, Jacksonville is a different type of suck.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Found yourself in Camden....
bound and drugged in the trunk of a town car.
He completed 17 of individuals 26 passes for 192 lanscaping your yard and two touchdowns - Chan Luu
Nope, bathtub full of ice
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Well, I've never been to Flint, Michigan.
But I really like the sirens. They say the angel dust there is insane. And they sure know how to use it.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 6, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
You: Do you want to go to Jacksonville or Flint?
Me: How are we getting there?
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
But have you been to Oklahoma?
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
I've been to Juniata County.
About the same.
"Woop woop." - Waylon Jennings
by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
MESS'n with TEXAS IS A PSU TRADITION.
Penn State has not lost a football game in Texas since the 1960’s.
Paterno never lost a game in Texas.
Let’s see how this crew does.
I Know Nothing! They were just Horsing Around!
by joefromboalsburg on Dec 6, 2011 1:20 PM EST reply actions
Hey honey...
… aren’t you supposed to be hard at work?
by jessedotsmom on Dec 6, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I have to work on the 3rd
I enough airline miles and hotel points to cover the trip, but it is too late now to change my schedule
Crap
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I plan on recovering from what will likely be a 2 day hangover
with some FOOTBAW!
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The match-up is intriguing.
I’m actually very wary of Houston. This is really not the kind of PSU team I would like to have facing a team like the Cougars. PSU D is susceptible to short, quick passes and I don’t know if this offense can score a lot on ANY team (they haven’t all year).
Anyway, the match-up is what makes the game. And to that extent PSU got lucky that Houston lost last week. Who would be the opponent had Houston won?? I honestly have no idea because I don’t know how this bowl "works’…what its tie-ins are, if any. But I highly doubt it would be a team of Houston’s caliber, thus the PSU fanbase would be very disappointed.
So not only are the BCS folks happy that Houston went down in flames last week, but I am too because that’s what gave PSU such a good and interesting bowl opponent.
"wary of Houston"
me2
but then again, I am a bit of a pessimistic fan
seriously though…Houston is set up with a lot of 3 step and/or shotgun quick reads….Still eating Keenum for lunch doesn’t really work for that…expect a lot of dink and dunk and hold your breath moments on defense in the red zone when they get down there. with two extra defenders (the rear two endzone corners) down there, that’s where we’ll make our stops.
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UAB managed to sack Keenum and
prevent Houston from scoring on an impressive goal line stand and stopped them at least one other time. At the end of the first half when I left, the score was 21-10. UAB has the 115th ranked defense in the nation. Now maybe if I had stayed for the entire game, rather than going to watch the OMG Game of the Century/Week, I would have a different impression. Keenum can be stopped and rattled. He got an intentional grounding penalty when he was sacked. I have faith in our defense!
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I actually believe we will win
the nature of the opponent just makes me a little squirrely
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
I don’t know if this offense can score a lot on ANY team (they haven’t all year).
IIRC, vs Northwestern we scored very well in the first half (before buckling down on our lead). ck has pointed out (either above or in other threads) that of all teams we’ve played, Northwestern most resembles Houston defensively—so we may have our way.
Fire Dan Snyder
Seriously
McGloin is borderline All-American quality against craptastic defenses. Does Houston even have a defense? Moye, Silas, and McGloin will all have big days.
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Ranked 64th in total D.
They’re about middle of the road compared to the teams we played, but their competition probably wasn’t as tough, so it may not be an apples to apples comparison.
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It's an interesting matchup
And I think Bradley/LJ Sr/Vandy might have to play a little different defense than 8-10 yard zone because Keenum seems like the type of QB who will eat that alive.
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
There's no probably about it.
I don’t know the exact statistical rankings, but the only ranked team they’ve played was USM. They lost, of course. By 21.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2011 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure 34 is the most this offense has scored this year.
Three times they scored that amount…against Indiana State, E. Michigan and Northwestern (and none of those teams is as good as Houston). I’m just not sure that would be enough against this team.
I'm not sure why we ever worry about teams like this.
Penn State’s defense is rarely susceptible to losing to teams who use “short, quick passes”. We may give up some points and yards, but losses are definitely the rare exception to the rule.
Penn State is vulnerable to deep and intermediate passing games from play action.
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by ReadingRambler on Dec 7, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Beautiful
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The team that should be complaining...
is Michigan State. I have a problem with a team not even making their conference title game (if there is one), being in a BCS game…i.e Michigan or Bama.
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