Penn State Throttled By Illinois, 68-51
Trips to Champaign always seem to take an awkward turn. Whether it was Penn State's 38-33 win over Illinois there two years ago or its 66-65 upset win in 2006 to end a long home win streak for the Fighting Illini, things never quite adhere to the script.
The Nittany Lions' 68-51 loss to Illinois Tuesday night was no exception. The team's charter was diverted to Evansville, Ind. Monday night due to bad weather and Penn State was forced to bus five hours from there early Tuesday. As if that wasn't bad enough, the Lions lost Jeff Brooks to a dislocated shoulder toward the end of the first half, right when they seemed to be gaining a little momentum after falling behind by as many as 15.
It was just a bridge too far for the night.
Talor Battle and Tim Frazier shared the team lead in points with 12 each. Frazier and Andrew Jones grabbed seven rebounds each to lead the Lions in that department. Mike Davis had a big night for the Illini with 22 points and seven boards of his own. D.J. Richardson and Bill Cole joined him in double figured.
All in all, it was simply an off night for the team. It happens in the game of basketball, especially in the Big Ten Conference and especially given the circumstances beyond the team's control it faced in this game. While it certainly doesn't help the Lions' NCAA Tournament resume any, it isn't particularly damaging, either. Time to regroup and get ready for Michigan.
The Good- Tim Frazier really stepped up in Brooks' absence. His performance was one of the lone bright spots in the game. If Brooks is to miss any significant time, Frazier will unquestionably need to carry more of the scoring load considering the dearth of talent on the bench, especially at forward. His 4-12 shooting performance was hardly desireably, but at least he was taking shots when the team needed him to. Nice step forward for him tonight.
- Andrew Jones fought through some foul trouble to have a reasonably productive evening with eight points and seven boards. He's another guy that will need to step up his game offensively if Brooks misses time and he wasn't too bad tonight.
- The Lions committed only six turnovers on the road. Not bad.
The Bad
- Billy Oliver was 2-6 in Jones' stead, including 1-5 from 3-point territory. He didn't show much aggressiveness inside, either, grabbing only three rebounds in 22 minutes. It's clear he's not in the right role so it's not all his fault, but at the four spot, you've got to do more than jack threes and hope for the best. Here's hoping he starts looking at the basket a little more with Brooks injured.
- Cammeron Woodyard got a little time and was 1-4 from the field. He's shooting under 20% for the season. That's not going to get it done off the bench. He's a junior, and he hasn't really developed at all.
- Talor Battle and David Jackson both had poor nights. That's bad news for Penn State whether Brooks is in there or not, so the final score is no surprise.
The Ugly
- Watching Brooks go down with a dislocated shoulder for Penn State is painful for him and for everyone else, too. It's a nasty injury that, whether he returns this season or not, will follow him the rest of the season as it did Jamelle Cornley in 2009. If you're the Lions, you can't spend your time waiting for him to come back. Someone has to step up. So far, no one has shown they can. Bad situation.
- The whole weather fiasco, while not an excuse, was certainly a distinct disadvantage for Penn State. You hate to see whacky stuff like that influence such an important game.
- The Lions shot 33% from the field and 11% from the arc. Yikes.
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Tough One
Thankfully, this was a gravy game. Awesome if we win, not crippling if we lose. Time to regroup for an almost must win against Michigan.
Also Fooge, kinda surprised the match-up zone was not part of the “bad” or the “ugly.” How many easy buckets did Illinois get because of the lack of execution on the back-side pick and roll?
I was working on copy desk tonight
Didn’t have a whole lot of time to keep track of that stuff, but I’m sure you’re right. Illinois didn’t dribble all night it seemed. Just whipped passes around until they got a perfect look.
Adam
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by Adam Bittner on Feb 2, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
I saw at minimum
4 or 5 point blank layups where the D just completely forgot about somebody until the ball was in his hands. The announcers at one point even mentioned that PSU looked like they had no energy.
We should be fine, we should be fine, we should be fine…
Illinois looked like the Globetrotters at times
behind the back passes to a guy wide open underneath the rim. Plenty of dunks to go with the wide open layups.
Also in the ugly: When Billy Oliver missed, he missed badly. How many airballs did he have in the first half? 2? 3?
I don't completely agree.
As it stands, we’re on the outside looking in. If all we do beat all the teams we’re supposed to beat from here on out, then at the end of the season we’ll be looking at a team with an 9-9 B1G record and a 16-13 overall. That’s with no slip-ups at home, and if we can peel off one of the road games against Minny or NW, and neither will be easy, especially without Brooks.
We currently have one true road win against a mediocre Indiana team, and only one good non-conference win, if Duquesne stays at the top of the A-10. Those are the state the committee loves to look at. The don’t give you much credit for close losses.
I see NIT or worse until this team proves itself on the road against someone that’s good. If they don’t, it’ll probably take two wins in the conference tourney to get in. You can say we didn’t need this game, but we need one somewhere, and this is a chance gone by.
Off topic but
What does the future hold for next years team? We will have a point guard who can’t shoot a 3, a small forward who can’t rebound,. And a shooting guard who isn’t even playing bc he is a turd. Other than that what do we have to look forward to?
by Slawsc on Feb 2, 2011 12:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think things will be OK
I feel like a broken record but I know you probably haven’t seen it. With two 6’10" guys coming in, a nice small forward prospect and Graham and Borovnjak coming off redshirt, the frontcourt might be deeper than it has been in a long time. I’m a little concerned about replacing production from the arc, but then, I was worried about that to start this year, too. I think confidence in that department comes with getting consistent looks, so hopefully whoever steps into Battle’s role can be serviceable out there. In all likelihood, it’s going to be a losing season but it won’t be the out-and-out suckfest people looking at Woodyard and thinking that’s all PSU has seem to think it’s going to be.
Adam
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by Adam Bittner on Feb 2, 2011 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
I know fuji disagress with me
but I think next year will be awful, and the two years after that have a chance to be pretty decent.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
I'm thinking this too
Team will just have no experience at the beginning of the season. none. Could end up with a lot more depth but no close to the skills of the current 4 seniors. Marshall, Bowman, maybe Buie (but right now, I doubt it), Oliver will be a soph., Borovnjak, Graham, Alexis (6’11), Ackerman (6’11), Tre Lewis G, Ross Travis (No. 1 recruit from Minnesota, 6’7 SF), Frazier, Woodyard (who needs to shoot 1000 jump shots every day over the summer), Tre le
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Concur
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by ReadingRambler on Feb 2, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Threadjack:
open thread for signing day? What time do the fax machines turn on in the football offices?
If we were ND
we wouldn’t need fax machines. We’d just go door to door and collect them.
We should be fine, we should be fine, we should be fine…
Seeing as I don't give a hoot about this stuff
You’ll have to petition Mike or do it in the fanposts.
Adam
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If Brooks isn't there, we're not beating Michigan...or anyone else
Watch last night’s replay and the “offense” that was being run without him.
I do think this loss is damaging. Illinois was struggling and we got smoked by 17 points. We don’t have that much margin for error…and one of the reasons we moved up in RPI was that even in the losses, they were close games. We should move down a bit in the ratings because of this beatdown. RPI doesn’t take travel problems and headaches into the formula so it is going to look like a 17 point loss period and it will hurt us.
RPI doesn't take margin of victory into account.
You may be thinking of something else. RPI only counts your record, your opponents’ records, and your opponents’ opponents’ records.
But I agree with the rest of your sentiment. Also, if by the end of the season Brooks is out or questionable, the committee is going to look at how the team performs without him.
I stand corrected on the RPI, thanks.
I just really hope Brooks isn’t out for any extended period of time. I just don’t think we can win any of our games without him so I don’t think the committee would be a factor, unless we are talking about the CBI committee. The guys we have are talented enough to make the tourney, but they all have to be there. Our depth has been killed with transfers, off the court issues, etc. and unfortunately we have more trouble than most teams in dealing with even one injury.
by mundyscorner99 on Feb 2, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know
With the travel/weather crap and then losing Brooks, its not a bad loss. No walk thru to get used to the arena, i mean they got there around 3 after 5 hours on a bus in snow and ice. it would have been a miracle if they played well. I was just hoping for UI to play like crap so PSU would have a chance. that didn’t happen.
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I agree that the situation sucks
And also feel it wouldn’t have been the end of the world if they pushed the game back to Wednesday, to make things a little more even. The fact that Illinois had a small crowd is not the same as an exhausted team having to deal with that travel mess. I would’ve rather had 50,000 people there cheering for Illinois than have a team that had no energy.
My point is that in 6 weeks when teams are stating their case and the committee is looking at resumes, I doubt that people are going to put an asterisk beside this game because of the situation PSU was dealt. If we can get to 10 B10 wins, it may not matter, but it sucks that this was a good chance to get a coveted road win and things beyond the game hurt their chances significantly.
by mundyscorner99 on Feb 2, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions

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