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In life, it is always new and exciting when we make a new friend.  Well the Nebraska Cornhuskers are going to be both our new  friend and our defacto "rival".  Until Pittsburgh and Penn State stop hating on each other like they are on an episode of "Cheaters", Penn State's rivalary with Nebraska will be the closest thing we will get to having an actual rival until further notice (and no, Ohio State did not think of us as a rival - more like a nagging itch).

So what exactly do we know about Nebraska?  We know they have great tradition in football.  We know they have our National Championship from 1994 (sorry Jon and Husker Mike).  We also know they have an outstanding Women's Volleyball program that will push our Lady Lions even harder.

We asked Jon and Husker Mike from Corn Nation to take some time to introduce the Penn State fans to all things Nebraska.  In part one of this three part Q&A we take a look at things to do in Lincoln, Nebraska's history, and previous Penn State vs. Nebraska games.

Now that Nebraska is Penn State's official "rival" the Nittany Lions will be making trips out to Lincoln ever other year. Can you describe a typical (if there is such a thing) game day atmosphere outside (tailgating) and inside Memorial Stadium?

Husker Mike: Memorial Stadium is located on campus a few blocks from downtown; it’s an urban setting, so there aren’t acres of parking lots there. It’s a split between tailgating and bar hopping downtown.  

Jon: Mike is a season ticket holder, and I’m going to let him cover the Lincoln game day questions. Given that, Corn Nation has a Vistor’s Guide to Lincoln, and we’ll be updating that before the start of the 2011 football season.

Best place to eat in Lincoln?

HM:  I’d have to say Misty’s...especially if you arrive in town the day before the game.  It’s THE place to go the night before the game, as they hold a pep rally with the Husker pep band.  

Jon: What you didn’t ask is - "Are there any food traditions specific to Nebraska that we should know about?", so I’ll ask and answer that for you. Runza’s seem to be specific to Nebraska. A runza is basically bread filled with beef, pork, cabbage and other seasonings. If you don’t want to eat them, you can stick them in your pocket and they’ll help you stay warm at November games.
The other is red beer. That’s typically tomato juice mixed with a typical cheap American beer. Personally, I favor V8 juice with a little tabasco, but either way, it makes a good breakfast.

Best bar to watch a game?

HM: Most everybody is at the game...but your best bet is probably Barry’s.

The treatment of visiting Big 10 fans always seems to be a problem at certain Big 10 schools (I'm looking in your direction Ohio State).  What type of hospitality do visiting fans receive in Lincoln?  If I'm wearing blue and white will I be in for a long afternoon?

HM: Nebraska fans typically pride themselves on being a little more civil to visitors than others. Doesn’t mean we don’t have our share of d-bags who want to stir up some trouble, but as long as you come in looking to have a good time and keep your screaming and yelling confined to the game action, you’ll likely be greeted warmly.

Memorial Stadium currently holds 81k+.  A few Big 10 schools seat 100k+, with Michigan once again claiming the title of largest stadium.  I know this takes time and lots of money but, any chance Nebraska joins the 100k club in the near (15 years) future?

HM:  100K?  Not a chance.  NU (get the message, Northwestern? :-) is expanding the stadium by 5k, which will get Husker game attendance to top 90k.  Remember, Nebraska is still a relatively small state population wise.

Penn State have played some pretty memorable games in past years.  For younger Penn State fans, the 2002 game at Beaver Stadium was an environment that was so intense and fanatical that it was arguable one of the Top 5 games ever played at the stadium.  For the older generation, 1982's  last second 27-24 Penn State victory is also pretty memorable.  Can you recall any memorable Nebraska vs. Penn State games?

HM: I think Nebraska fans have their own opinions about 1982. :-)   I think you’ve nailed them all, though Husker fans do remember that 1983 Kickoff Classic as a great start to that season.

Jon: Oh, man. The 1982 game happened while I was at Nebraska, and it still sticks with me to this day. I remember the 1983 game, largely because revenge was still fresh in my mind at the beginning of the next season. I remember a friend of mine asking me before that game what I thought would happen, and I turned to him and said "We’re going to crush them". 44-6, not bad.

2002 was like watching a bad dream, while 2003 was nice revenge, but at that time we were still trying to figure out what was happening to the football team, so it’s mostly forgotten.

 

 

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In your opinion, who is the greatest Cornhusker to ever play?

HM:  Greatest ever?  That’s a toughie.  A few years ago, I might have said Tommie Frazier after a lot of thinking about it.  Now, I think it’s probably Ndamukong Suh...though I want to digest that selection for a few more years.

Jon: Ndamukong Suh is still fresh in everyone’s minds, and he is the most decorated Husker ever, but I’m probably going to go with Tommie Frazier. Frazier played in three national title games, winning two, and being named MVP of all three. He was the player who put Nebraska over the top in the title runs of the 90s.

Tom "Train Wreck" Novak is worth a mention. He played from 1946-1949, just after World War II and during a terrible time for Nebraska football. Despite playing on some bad teams (and for three different coaches), Novak earned all conference honors all four years. His number 60 is permanently retired. The stories of his toughness are legendary - my favorite being how he once came off the field with broken ribs, asked a trainer to push them back into place and tape them up because he was going back in. Is it true? I have no clue, but it’s a helluva story.

Here is the scenario, Nebraska is down 4 with 2 minutes left and 90 yards to go  - which QB do you want (Turner Gill, Tommie Frazier, Eric Crouch) and why?

HM:  Truthfully?  90 yards to go?  I’m going off the board:  Scott Frost... who actually did take the team about 60 yards with just over a minute left down 7 to tie the game, much to the chagrin of Michigan fan.

Jon J: Rather than answer this question myself, I poised it to the CN community.

What are some game day traditions in Lincoln?

HM: The biggest is the pregame tunnel walk. Nebraska was the first college-only venue to have replay boards in 1994, and they started a tradition of showing the team walking out of the locker room on the screens.  The school sprung this on fans as a surprise, and they went nuts. Nebraska went on to win national championships three out of the next four years, and there’s absolutely no way they dump the Tunnel Walk.  It starts about 5-6 minutes before kickoff. Otherwise, it’s standard college football stuff. Waive the arms to the school song after the extra point.  The "Husker! Power!" chant going back and forth between the two sides of the stadium.

I have to go here (and I know you've answered this question before) - 1994.  Do you still think Penn State doesn't deserve a share of the National Championship?

HM:  Yes.

Jon: You stole that one in 1982, so no. (See that article link about 1982, above)

Say the BCS was around back in 1994.  Penn State vs. Nebraska.  Who wins?

HM:  Nebraska.  Probably by two touchdowns.

Jon: I believe Nebraska had a much better defense than Penn State that season. I’ll stick with Mike’s answer. Besides, I’m sure this will be the topic of much debate in the coming season. It deserves a longer answer. :)

Be sure to  check back next week for part 2 of our Q&A with Corn Nation next week.

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1994 will be argued, reargued, and troll-fought for years to come, ad nauseum.

I’m more interested in these runzas. Do they come frozen in my local supermarket? Also, why in the hell didn’t I think to add my two favorite breakfast drinks, beer and bloody marys, before?

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by Jeff Junstrom on Feb 22, 2011 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

I think the red beer is just tomato juice, no vodka.

But I like your version better. I’ve had a red beer, and it’s not worth the trouble.

Dear Big Ten, nothing about your boring landscape, plain women, or two national championships in 40 years is legendary.

by Illegal Formation on Feb 22, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Add the vodka and it'd be quite a mix.

I think Nebraska has the right idea about college football.

"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."

by Adam Collyer on Feb 22, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah

The program is historically down, but the fanbase the B10 added hasn’t skipped a beat. One of the best in sports.

I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.

by ckmneon on Feb 22, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

No thanks on the red beer

Budweiser Chelada is a big seller here in Tijuana Norte, it’s a good way to ruin a beer. Stick with the vodka instead.

by Frank O'Brien on Feb 22, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen that Clamato stuff on billboards out there

Just the picture makes me want to vomit.

"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler

by psuphysicist on Feb 22, 2011 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take your word for it

"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler

by psuphysicist on Feb 23, 2011 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't that make it

a Bloody Ceasar?

"You're holding my hand Chuck - you sly dog!"

by rahpsu92 on Mar 3, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Jeez, that McCloskey pass was on first down.

Nebraska fans are just too shallow to admit the awesomeness of Todd Blackledge – he was going to win that game and that’s just a fact.

Also, I feel the needd to remind everyone that Manca missed three easy-ish field goals in the first half.

It's a quarter after one, I'm a little drunk, and I need Stanzi now.

by ReadingRambler on Feb 22, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

and it was in bounds

as for 1994, whatever. There are two years, where if consistency mattered, PSU would’ve won one of the titles:

1912: Penn State f***ing obliterated a good schedule, Harvard went undefeated against a significantly better schedule, Harvard wins the MNC.
1994: Nebraska f***ing obliterated a good schedule, Penn State went undefeated against a significantly better schedule, Nebraska wins the MNC.

I want one of those; I don’t really care which

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by ckmneon on Feb 22, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I want 1994.

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Feb 22, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

So do I

but either way, I just want PSU to start claiming one of them, because while I don’t know what the standard is for National Championships, PSU certainly won one of them.

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by ckmneon on Feb 22, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

wasn't inbounds

at all. Have you ever seen that play?

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by Jon Johnston on Feb 22, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Get a freaking clue

“1994: Nebraska f**ing obliterated a good schedule, Penn State went undefeated against a significantly better schedule.”

Are you just pulling that out of your rear, cause it sure sounds like it.

Below you will see some facts about the Nebraska and PSU schedules of 1994;

    PSU was 12-0 vs opponents that finished with an overall record of 70-65-4 .51799%
    NU was 13-0 vs teams with an overall record of 78-71-3 .52303% (Statistics don’t lie, but somehow according to you PSU played a “significantly” tougher schedule than 1994 Nebraska.)

    PSU had 8 teams it defeated, win at least half their games
    NU had 9 -

    PSU had no teams it defeated win more than 9 games
    NU had 2 (PSU played a bunch of mediocre to just above average at best teams, including their bowl opponent!) DOn’t tellme about OSU. Just barely above average!

    PSU played 4 teams during the reg. season that went to bowls
    NU played 5

    PSU was 4-0 against ranked teams, #5,12,14,21 (AP game time)
    NU was 5-0 against ranked teams, at #2, 3,13,16,24 (AP game time)
 
    Tougher conference?
    Big 8s record vs the Big 10 that year – 4-2, including wins vs Michigan and Wisconsin

YOu just got owned! You lose!

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Please tell me

again that 1994 PSU played a “significantly better” schedule than 1994 Nebraska. I enjoyed tearing that statement a part, bit by bit, with REAL FACT BASED data, not your personal conjecture or uninformed opinion.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, 1994 PSU played a "significantly better" schedule than 1994 Nebraska

(sorry guys, but the troll bait was half price at Costco and I bought a little too much, and gotta get rid of it somehow)

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

oh

great fuzzy picture. maybe with this you could identify the second shooter on the grassy knoll, too.

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by Jon Johnston on Feb 22, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

2ND SHOOTER WAS BOB DEVANEY

prove to me it wasn’t so

/sorry, i kid, i kid – welcome to the Big Ten

by IndianaLion on Feb 22, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It is fuzzy

There is absolutely no proof whether or not McCloskey caught that ball. This picture, however, does demonstrate that anyone who thinks he was “clearly” out of bounds doesn’t know what he or she is talking about.

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by ckmneon on Feb 22, 2011 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he was out of bounds

Just look at the video, the receiver’s left foot was, well, a foot in the air when he made the catch.

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2087956/6561566

Hell, even a Philly sportswriter at the game commented on how out-of-bounds he was.

Now I realize that was only, I think, 2nd down, so it wasn’t the game, but come on, he was out of bounds. Science says its true.

Deadspin: by douche bags, for douche bags.

by meatybob on Feb 23, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you go to science class with Ron Burgundy?

The video you linked to is the same one from the screen shot I took, and while it was elevating, there is no reason to believe that his left foot was off the ground. It looks like it was on the ground until his right foot landed out of bounds.

There are two crucial things that we cannot tell from that video:
1) Was he juggling the ball? No reason to believe that he was, but impossible to tell from the camera angle.
2) Was McCloskey’s left foot completely in bounds? We have absolutely no reason to believe that it wasn’t, but again, impossible to tell. It was certainly on the ground. Watch the video.

What we do know:
1) When the ball arrived, McCloskey’s right foot had not yet touched down out of bounds.
2) Two referees got a great view of the positioning of his feet, both called him in bounds with no hesitation.

We will never know the answer to the first two questions, and therefore, we will never really know the answer. What we do know is that Nebraska fans who claim he was so “clearly” out of bounds have no evidence to back their claim aside from the fact that it was close.

And as far as Philly commentators go, the Northeast is home to a sports phenomenon called the “anti-homer,” a type of fan and beat writer who can never say anything positive about the team he or she is supposed to be advocating, so that means absolutely nothing.

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by ckmneon on Feb 23, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

You need to study the human form, maybe some human anatomy and physiology. And when you’re done with that enroll in kinesiology 101.

Kinesiology would be very beneficial for you.

Kenesiology -the science dealing with the interrelationship of the physiological processes and anatomy of the human body with respect to movement.

Why? Because of this statement..

" there is no reason to believe that his left foot was off the ground. It looks like it was on the ground until his right foot landed out of bounds."

That statement, and really just part of it, shows just how little you know about the human form, the way it moves and what it can and can NOT PHYSICALLY DO.

I will narrow your statement down for you, to really show you where you are clearly wrong and uninformed. “It looks like it (McCloskey’s left foot) was on the ground until his right foot landed out of bounds.” NOT FREAKING POSSIBLE!

McCloskey is leaping, with the left foot being the trail foot. It is not physically possible, is against every law of human motion or kinesiology for the trail foot to be in contact with the ground IN ANY WAY when the lead foot ( McCloskey’s right foot) contacts the ground 3 ft out of bounds!

When walking… yes, a persons lead foot will contact the ground as the trail foot (ball of foot/toes) are/is on the ground but not when running/jogging or when leaping.

If both feet of humans remained in contact with the ground, even barely, when running we would be slower than we already are.

So.. that leads us to the other part or first part of your statement;

So.. that leads us to the other part or first part of your statement; “There is no reason to believe that his left foot was off the ground.”

So.. that leads us to the other part or first part of your statement; “There is no reason to believe that his left foot was off the ground.” Yes, there is. And I just told you why.

So.. that leads us to the other part or first part of your statement; “There is no reason to believe that his left foot was off the ground.” Yes, there is. And I just told you why.Because it isn’t physically possible for him (or any other human) to run, jog or leap and keep trail foot in ANY CONTACT with the ground as the lead foot touches the ground.

So.. that leads us to the other part or first part of your statement; “There is no reason to believe that his left foot was off the ground.” Yes, there is. And I just told you why.Because it isn’t physically possible for him (or any other human) to run, jog or leap and keep trail foot in ANY CONTACT with the ground as the lead foot touches the ground.To do so is against all fundamental rules of human motion.

So.. that leads us to the other part or first part of your statement; “There is no reason to believe that his left foot was off the ground.” Yes, there is. And I just told you why.Because it isn’t physically possible for him (or any other human) to run, jog or leap and keep trail foot in ANY CONTACT with the ground as the lead foot touches the ground.To do so is against all fundamental rules of human motion.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 26, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Something wrong with server or something..

The repeat of , “So.. that leads us to the other part or first part of statement,” is not my doing.

I previewed before actual posting and it wasn’t repeated like that.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 26, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This entire analysis is incorrect

To say that it is ‘not possible for a persons lagging foot to be in contact with the ground when leaping/running’ makes some fundamental science mistakes. While running/leaping with no intent to stop, or the intent is to keep going as fast as you can, sure, that statements is correct.

However, if a person is running and decides to decelerate, it changes the fundamental motion. In that case a lagging foot could remain in contact with the ground indefinitely as the person falls.

Before arrogantly chastising someone for not understanding kinesiology, you should probably learn some science. Maybe think through the problem, using the scientific method and possibly come to the conclusion that you could be incorrect.

"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler

by psuphysicist on Mar 2, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

BS!

“However, if a person is running and decides to decelerate, it changes the fundamental motion. In that case a lagging foot could remain in contact with the ground indefinitely as the person falls.”

That statement is neither here or there you arrogant db, considering that the player in question was; a) not decelerating at the sideline, as he (McCloskey) needed every ounce of forward momentum to even get to the ball, a ball that was somewhat high and away in the moment prior to it getting to within a distance that he could even make the “catch.” McCloskey in final desperation to even get a hand on the ball had to LEAP, (leave his feet) to even have a chance at getting hands on it.

You said it yourself, “While running/leaping with no intent to stop, or the intent is to keep going as fast as you can, sure, that statements is correct.” McCloskey needed every bit of forward momentum, speed, to even get to the ball. If he doesn’t the ball flies out of bounds. McCloskey left his feet, (made a one footed leap) therefore his trail foot can not in anyway be in ANY contact with the ground as the lead foot lands. NOT POSSIBLE. Gotcha!

Also, McCloskey did it all wrong, he did exactly the opposite of what any player is taught, drilled over and over by coaches to do when receiving a ball at the sidelines. Players are taught to drag their feet when near or approaching the sidelines, NEVER, EVER leave their feet. But, McCloskey lept and more or less was forced to otherwise he doesn’t come close to getting his hands on that ball.

Gotcha mr smarty pants. Go play some football, maybe you’d have a better understanding. Get out of the lab now and then.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I do play rugby there, guy

I know its hard to believe that us science types can actually be athletic, but its true.

And I wasn’t actually contesting the play in question. I was simply pointing out that your assertions are incorrect. You cannot make those kinds of blanket statements, with that kind of attitude, and expect people not to point out where you are incorrect. You are trolling, and trolling in a pretty bad way.

Look, you could be flat out right about what you are talking about, but when you say it with that know it all attitude and show no signs of reasonableness you lose credibility. Lots of it. As a matter of fact, your unwillingness to concede any points in all of your ramblings make me doubt everything you say. Which is a shame, because I tend to like and respect most Nebraska fans. Usually they bring a lot of football knowledge to the table and are pretty fun to talk to about it.

"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler

by psuphysicist on Mar 2, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

here's the problem as I see it

I could go either way on whether he dragged his foot or not in that catch, and the angle of the camera is about perfect in making it very disputable. I definitely wouldn’t put money on it either way (based on any video or pictures I’ve ever seen of the play).

It is definitely possible to say he dragged his toe in that play, and it is also possible that he was mid-leap with his foot in the air. Anyone who is supremely confident either way (based on that footage) is lying to themselves.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Gosh..

Some reasonableness and someone finally admitting that he may not have been in bounds.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

that's all anyone here is claiming.

The call was a catch in bounds, though, so you need indisputable evidence to overturn that call. By today’s replay standards, with that view, the call would not be overturned. I didn’t see it live, and have only seen grainy footage, where it is borderline what actually happened and where both sides see what they want (and there are people who are “100% positive” both ways)

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 6, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

a no it wasn't!

The McCloskey “catch” which he years later admitted was not a catch, was a 3rd down play!

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're gonna act like everyone here is an idiot, you better get your facts straight!

I’ve watched the DVD twice since I’ve had it. It was on first down. Suck it dog!

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

2 touchdowns? Keep dreaming, Husker Power.

See, this is already a better rivalry than any renewal of Pitt-PSU…

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by Adam Collyer on Feb 22, 2011 10:11 AM EST reply actions  

Could not agree more!

My blood pressure rose 30 points just by reading that score “prediction”…Pitt hasn’t raised my blood pressure in a decade.

"That's why you don't play! 'Cuz you're no good!" -Joe Paterno

by pmm156 on Feb 22, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

That's a joke.

Rivera, Hartings, Greeley, Engram, Brady, Collins, Carter, Scott, Archie, yeah, right, gimme a break.

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by ReadingRambler on Feb 22, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The late 50s for sure

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by ckmneon on Feb 22, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't care to total up

the total number of years spent (starting) in the NFL by members of that offense, but it’s got to be absurd, especially if you consider the backups (wasn’t Joe Jurevicius as RS that year?).

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by ckmneon on Feb 22, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

He did.

And if I recall correctly, it was a fairly long play. 45-50 yards, or something like that.

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by icavalera on Feb 22, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, arguably the greatest collegiate football offense EVER!

I mean, really? Really? Really? Really?

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by Mr. Rosewater on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

and the defense wasn't too bad either

Noble, Herring, Pittman, Yeboah-Kodie, Rhule…these are just the names I remember (and I was 13 at the time). it may not have been as dominating a defense as we’ve had, but it was enough of a complement to the offense that they wouldn’t have beaten us by 14.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Feb 22, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Nebraska’s defense wasn’t that much better than ours.

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by ReadingRambler on Feb 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh please!

You keep telling yourself that! ROFLMFAO!

A Nebraska defense

that was only in the top 10 scoring and total defenses!

But " Nebraska’s defense wasn’t that much better than ours." COUGH! COUGH! CHOKE! CHOKE!

Keep dreaming

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You use ROFLMFAO.

You lose because you sound like an arrogant idiot.

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You're so full of ...

“Nebraska’s defense not that much better than ours.”

Scoring defense

  1. Nebraska

PSU nowhere to be found near the top 10

Total defense

  1. Nebraska
  1. PSU

Don’t insult Nebraska with that lame comment.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 26, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Something really wrong with a server..

was a #70 next to PSU for total defense.

How the hell it gets changed to 1 is beyond me. Was #70 on preview and 1 after post.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 26, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Put the crack pipe down...

its really not good for you.

“Nebraska’s defense wasn’t that much better than ours”

The Blackshirts defense; #2 rated scoring defense and total defense.

1994 PSU 70th rated total defense. Nothing more needs to be said. Not even in the same universe!

I have a good name for the PSU defense of 1994. “The kitty kat brigade!”

MEOW!!!!!

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard telling

that defense was certainly underachieving for the amount of talent that it had, but there’s no way of knowing how it would’ve done against a run-heavy, option offense, since nobody in the 1994 Big Ten ran anything similar.

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by ckmneon on Feb 22, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

QB K. Stewart, RB 1994 Heisman Trophy Winner R. Salaam, TE C. Fauria, WR M. Westbrook, WR. R. Carruth, G. C. Naeole, G. H. Irwin. and others..

Do you know what team this group of future NFL players started for in 1994??

A bunch of future NFL players with 50+ years of combined NFL experience!

How did their day in Lincoln go back in 1994?? How many points did all these future NFL players score on the Nebraska defense?? Please, cause I’d really like to know!

Don’t tell me BS about how fast PSU could score and all that NFL talent on offense.

7 points! 7 points! 7 points! 7 points! ROFLMFAO!

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

A few 1994 clips have been circulating on the internet...

and nobody was stopping that offense. Nobody.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Feb 22, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Give me a freaking break

  Ever heard the phrase or philosophy.. “There is more than one way to skin a cat.”

My point… Long drive after long Cornhusker drive against that PSU defense keeps that PSU offense on the sidelines!! Long time consuming, run based, ground chewing up, drives lead by that Nebraska o line with Frazier and Phillips following. Ending in numerous touchdowns and leaving that PSU offense standing on the sidelines.

Don’t tell me that it would be any different! A Frazier, 3 + months removed from game action playing little more than one half chewed up the best defense in the country! That defense was the # !1 ranked Hurricanes scoring and total defense. I think it is safe to say that if the Hurricanes got a full game of Frazier that that great Hurricanes defense gives up 35+ points! Nebraska had the ball for 33 mins against the Canes defense. The # 1 DEFENSE! The Nittany Lions defense of 1994 was nothing compared to the Hurricanes! Nothing! Damn, if Nebraska had played PSu in 94, Nebraska probably has the ball for 40 or more mins and puts 35 or more points on that pillow soft PSU defense!

Then when the Lions offense did get on the field they would be playing against what was by far the best defense that they had seen all year! Don’t tell me how many futre NFL players PSU had on offense.. Check 94 COlorado! How did they fair with all that NFL talent on offense? tell me please!!!

In effect Nebraska has a two fold approach to playing defense against that 94 PSU offense; 1) a time consuming, ground based power run game with likely the BEST Nebraska offensive line of ALL TIME, and one of the best collegiate QB’s of ALL Time and a RB ( off field behavior doesn’t apply) that by many is the best RB to ever play at Nebraska!

and 2) when Collins, Carter, HArtings, Engram, Brady and Co did get on the field they would have been facing a Blackshirt defense that was by FAR AND AWAY the best that PSU offensive group had faced in 1994! A defense that ate no mobility, pocket passing, no ability to avoid the rush qb’s for lunch in the 90’s!

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude... you need to chill out...

I appreciate your passion for your team – I have the same passion for Penn State. But, there’s no way for either side to prove who would have won that match-up. So you can shout from the rooftops all you want – you’re not going to convince die-hard Penn Staters that Nebraska would have won that game, much less dominated it. And let me flip your argument on you. You say PSU didn’t face a defense like Nebraska’s all year (which is debatable, as Illinois’ D was pretty damn good). Well, Nebraska didn’t face an offense that came ANYWHERE CLOSE to being as good as Penn State’s (and don’t even try to put Colorado’s offense on the same level). And if Wyoming (Wyoming!?), of all teams, could put up 32 on your defense (in Lincoln), I’m quite confident Penn State could have scored at least 35 on them. But again, we’ll never know for sure, will we? So we can argue this topic until the end of time, with neither side ever convincing the other that they’re right. I am sure about one thing, though. I wouldn’t waste my time trolling a Nebraska website trying to vehemently argue the reasons why Penn State would have won that game. But that’s just me.

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by icavalera on Feb 25, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Wyoming

Lets just see.. that just happened to be the very first game that Nebraska had to play without Frazier and the first game without a future 9-10 year NFL starter at FS Mike Minter.

Minter’s replacement, K. Moss blew a couple coverages in Wyoming game (his first game as a starter) but after that was solid through the rest of the year, enough to be All Big 8 safety.

The team was extremely flat and disappointed in losing their leader and Heisman Trophy candidate and it showed on the field. Hardly surprising the team was flat considering that ESPN, and every media outlet were in Lincoln the week leading up to the game telling the entire team and reminding them how big a loss Frazier was. PSU needs to thank “fate” for even being in the NC conversation in 94. Because if Frazier had been healthy all year and played all year PSU likely isn’t leading the country in scoring offense, and NU goes wire to wire number 1.

I will use COlorado as a perfect example of what you can do with “future NFL players”, since so many PSU fans use that same NFL logic to say why PSU would dismantle Nebraska. Balogna! They get knocked the F out and knocked on their ass just like anyone else.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know...

sounds like a lot of excuses and conjecture to me. Again, you have no way proving anything you’re arguing here (nor do I). I’m done debating with you, though. It’s obviously a pointless exercise.

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by icavalera on Feb 25, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

35 On Nebraska

My ass! The Nebraska offense possessed the ball, (that means kept the ball away from the other offense) against the #1 ranked total defense and #1 ranked scoring defense for nearly 34 minutes in the Orange Bowl with a far less than game ready Frazier playing littel more than a half! A Frazier 3 months removed from game action.

The 1994 PSU defense doesn’t even deserve mention in the same breath as the Hurricanes defense or the Blackshirts of 94.

JC! A healthy game reayd Frazier likely plays keep away form the PSU offense and possess the ball (again, that means the PSU offense is standing on the sideline) for something around 40 minutes! TOP probably looks like this NU 40 PSU 20

Is PSU going to score every time they have the ball? Not! 35 on Nebraska! ? My butt! Not when the PSU defense can’t get off the field, in order for that PSU offense to posses the ball! Don’t tell me how fast the Nittany lions would score. Not against the Blackshirts they don’t.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, one more thing...

If Frazier was far less than game ready versus Miami, how would he have been any more game ready if they had played Penn State in a national title game? See, this is just one area where your logic is flawed. Ok, NOW I’m done.

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by icavalera on Feb 25, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you really that dense??

“If Frazier was far less than game ready versus Miami, how would he have been any more game ready if they had played PSU in a National Title game.”

A Frazier 3+ months removed from game action, hardly in mid-season form, going against a GREAT Miami defense for little more than a half and that Miami defense gives up 24. 94 Miami defense >>>> light years better than 94 PSU defense. It’s an insult to the Canes defense of 94 to even mention that PSU defense in same sentence.

Point is, and logic shows that even with Frazier coming off of injury and not quite himself and playing little more than a half they still put 24 on the Canes D. Simple LOGICAL CORRELATION is that even with that, not quite up to par Frazier that that Nebraska offense does lots more against that 94 PSU because anyone knows that the PSU defense was nothing close to the Hurricanes dominant group of 1994.

Just imagine what that Nebraska offense would have done to that pillow soft 94 PSU d that never ever saw a run heavy, power based, offense with dominant o lineman and dominant skill position players. An offense that the PSU D saw nothing close or similar to in the Big 10!

And if the 94 PSU defense got a primed and in midseason form Frazier like he was in 93 or 95 with LP running behind that nasty, kick your ass all over this field dominant offensive line with dominant running backs.

Tommie Frazier, LP and CO would truck and monkey stomp that PSU D, whether 94 PSU d saw the Frazier 3 months removed form game action that the Hurricanes got, or the one in midseason form, and in doing so chew up the clock, and keep that PSU offense on the sidelines.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You should consider what you're saying

before you call someone else dense. I got the point you were trying to make – that a “rusty” Frazier still dismantled a powerful Miami defense, so he’d do much more against PSU’s defense. But by following it up with “A healthy game reayd Frazier likely plays keep away form the PSU offense…” implies that even though he was rusty against Miami, he would have been healthy and “really REALLY kick-ass” against Penn State. See what I mean??

And by the way, you keep extolling the virtues of Miami’s defense that year. Let’s not forget that their offense was average at best. Their QB was Frank Costa, for pete’s sake. Yet somehow, they managed to score 17 points in that game (including 2 long TD passes). So, in my OPINION, PSU could have managed much more than that.

But what does all of this mean regarding a PSU – Nebraska match-up in 1994? Not a damn thing. I wish we still would have been an independent that year, so we could have played each other in that Orange Bowl. Then I wouldn’t have wasted the last hour of my life on this.

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by icavalera on Feb 25, 2011 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

CAn't score when your POS defense

can’t stop Frazier, Phillips and co. on long drive after long drive and can’t get the ball for Collins, Carter and Co.

Pretty difficult to score without your offense getting the ball.

I only mentioned a really healthy Frazier in terms of if PSU/NU could have played in 1994. Wouldn’t you want both teams, all players at full strength, a true test for both teams? I would. That seems to be in the best spirit of competition. Since it never happened I can say that I would hope if they had, that the Frazier 1994 PSU had to see would have been the healthy Frazier in midseason form that he was through 93 and 95. If your having trouble with that I can’t help you.

The fact is, that 94 Nebraska team was besieged by injuries, (not just injuries, but injuries to star players/starters) Frazier, Berringer, Minter. but managed to overcome all that and complete an undefeated season

You PSU fans need to take the blinders off. Your defense was pathetic in 1994 and would have been exposed by Nebraska with a punishing ground based, physical offense with likely the best offensive line EVER at Nebraska ( a school renowned at that time for O line play AND likely it’s best RB/QB ever on the same team!)

How the heck do you think PSU is going to put 35 on the board when they have the ball for probably no more than 20 minutes?

So, we know for a fact that he 1994 PSU defense would have had real difficulty (noted by the Hurricanes #1 defense struggling to stop Frazier) stopping the Nebraska offense. I agree.. PSU probably scores a few td’s maybe a even a long pass or two, but not ENOUGH TO OVERCOME THAT POS defense that can’t get off the field and can’t stop Frazier and co. Nebraska offense would have owned the ball for over the PSU offense for something close to a 2 to 1 ratio. Something close to 40 for NU and 20 for PSU.

And you know what happens to that PSU defense late after being on the field for 30 plus minutes against that physical Nebraska offense. Reference the Canes Sapp and Lewis. PSU gives up late scoring drives, likely gets big played to death in 4th quarter by the Nebraska offense because they have been physically owned and overwhelmed. That’s what Nebraska did to teams, beat them down physically and owned them late.

In those 20 minutes that PSU has the ball they likely complete a few passes, maybe even a few td’s. Carter might even get in the endzone, for 21-24 points, but that POS PSU defense would have been big played to death by the Cornhusker offense.

AS I have said over and over, that PSU defense was nothing compared to Miami, so I think 35 + points by Frazier and Co, probably over 40 is reachable by Nebraska. Collins and Co would not have had the ball nearly enough to keep up with that production.

1994 Nebraska 38-41 points, maybe more, because of that Achilles Heal of a defense and 1994 PSU probabaly gets in the 17-24 range. With the limited possessions that the 94 PSU offense would have got they would have had to score on nearly every possession. Not happening! In a typical game with somewhat even time of possessions for each offense, teams get approximately 12-13 offensive possessions. Cut that by a quarter for PSU’s offense due to huge time of possession advantage for Nebraska. SO now, they get 7-8 possessions, 9 if they are lucky. Lets say the PSU offense scores on half of those possessions, getting touchdowns each time, and they don’t ever lose a turnover, being generous. That works out to 28 points and that is being generous and they are still behind late likely by 10 or more. No way in hell that that PSU defense holds Nebraska under high 30’s and PSU just won’t have the ball enough to keep up withthat production.

Nebraska 38-41 easy with a TOP of around 40 minutes
PSU 17-24

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

"and nobody was stopping that offense. nobody"

Really?? Are you sure about that?

Because when I look at the results from the 1994 Penn State schedule I see game results like the following; PSU 38 Ore 20
                                              PSU 35 Ill 31
                                              PSU 35 Ind 29
                                              PSU 31 Mich 24
                                              PSU 38 USC 14

You may be thinking, “So what, PSU won every one of those games.” Okay, that is a fact.

  But back to your statement of, “and nobody was stopping that offense. Nobody.”

In those 5 games, 3 of which were decided by an average of 5 points, PSU scored an average of 35 points. To score 35 points an offense needs a MINIMUM of 5 possessions, (not taking into account any points from ST or defensive TD’s). See where I’m going with this…???

5 offensive possessions MIN to score 35 points!

Your statement would lead one to believe that those 5 possessions are the only offensive possessions that Collins, Carter, Ingram, Rivera, and Co got in every one of those 5 games!!

A typical football game sees both teams get generally in the neighborhood of 10-12 offensive possessions! So what happened to the other min 5 offensive possessions, maybe more???

Please do tell! I anxiously await an explanation.

And this lame ass argument that PSU fans use about Joe Pa playing reserves doesn’t fly in 4 of those games because 1) 3 of them decided by less than a td. (yeah Joe Pa is going to take out his offensive players in games that were in serious doubt till the final whistle and 2) Joe Surely lets his offensive 1st team play every snap in the Rose Bowl in attempt to sway voters.

So, please tell me what happened to the “other” or the rest of the PSU offensive possessions in the aforementioned games.

??

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Nebraska fans: “Humor and exaggeration are foreign substances.”

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I'll bite...

Oregon game: they actually had a pretty good defense (they even had a nickname: “Gang Green”), and we were emotionally down after having watched Nebraska win the Orange Bowl the night before, which effectively ended our shot at a share of the title. By the way, the “we were emotionally down” excuse is the same type of excuse you employed to tell me why Nebraska had such a rough time against Wyoming that season.

Illinois: they had one of the best defenses in the country that year.

Indiana: bad officiating (another of your fall-backs) – also, they scored 15 garbage points on our scrubs in the last 2 or 3 minutes

Michigan: they were just a good team

USC: We had 35 at halftime of that game. Joe called off the dogs.

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by icavalera on Mar 3, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe called off the dogs..

For years, that has always been the mantra of PSU faithful regarding the 94 PSU football team. That Joe, being the person that he is “always, all the time, called off the dogs.”

But, a look at PSU’s 94 schedule and I see some contradictions to that “always called off the dogs mantra.” Some scores just don’t jive to that mantra.

Minn 56-3
Iowa 61-21
OSU 63-14
MSU 59-31

That’s an average deficit of 42 points. Now, I will throw out the closest game of Mich State. Because I don’t know how that game played out at the end. Maybe the MSU game was closer late, I don’t know..

That leaves the other 3 games decided by an average of 47 points! Nearly 50 points. But, for years all we hear is that Joe Pa always called off the dogs.

Either Joe did call off the dogs or he didn’t.. CAn’t have it both ways.

BY the way Nebraska lettered 77 players in 94 and PSU lettered 63.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes, even the backups are hard to stop.

As a Penn State fan, I’ve been on both sides of the scenario, where you can put the backups in, call nothing but runs up the middle, and you still keep on scoring. Also there’s the matter of when to call off the dogs. Almost never before halftime, and usually not until late in the 3rd quarter, depending on the lead.

I don’t have the game stats in front of me, nor do I know the games well enough to say for sure, but there are games where a team could be up in the 30s by halftime, call off the dogs and eventually put the backups in, and still score a few more TDs.

I can also say that there have been times I’ve seen Joe rub it in the face of the other team. Syracuse never seems to be spared the butt-whooping.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 4, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

The "emotionally down"

down thing is a real and palpable factor. And it has a real impact on performance. Proven by many Sports Psychologists that emotion is a huge factor in performance in a game like football.

“Excuses” have no basis in fact.

I have been to many games where one (94 Nebraska against Wyoming atleast at the start of the game) or the other team came out flat, devoid of any real vigor. In a game like football, emotion is important.

Therefore, I will give you that PSU may have been less than fired up, or ready or motivated at the Rose Bowl. In the same respect I expect that any respectable PSU fan would understand that if not for Frazier’s issues the week before the Wyoming game with ESPN and every media outlet in Lincoln telling the entire team how big a loss it was, that it is reasonable and understandable that Nebraska might just come out flat in that game.

I was at that game, saw it and felt it even before kickoff that they were seriously flat, at least to start. And I would also expect that any reasonable PSU fan would accept that if not for Frazier missing 8 games in 94, that games like Wyoming, KSU, OU, Miami and even Colorado are not nearly the close games that they were without Frazier.

And Nebraska likely never drops from #1 once they would have first been voted #1.

Indiana and Mich may have been good on defense but they were not equal to the 94 Nebraska unit. Not close.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

*

Illinois and Mich, not Indiana.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed about the "emotionally down" or "flat" thing.

Still disagree with you about Illinois’ defense. They were pretty damn good, and I’d put them in the same league as Nebraska’s D. I don’t know the statistics off hand, but I’d be surprised if they weren’t ranked in the top 5 for total defense that year.

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by icavalera on Mar 4, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Welcome to the B1G, fellas.

Hope you enjoy yourselves and make yourself at home here.

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by Adam Collyer on Feb 22, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually

It was Joe, or QBsneak12.

But I concur. Fine job.

by BSD on Feb 22, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they might have been talking about "Husker Mike" from Corn Nation...

not that I would ever turn away compliments!

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by QBsneak12 on Feb 22, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I love this matchup annually...

Each fanbase will have a chip on its shoulder that will never go away due to the ‘82/’94 stuff. Game week will be awesome.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Feb 22, 2011 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

1982 officiating

I still remember the dropped pass to the back in the flat that was ruled a fumble in 82. That terrible call stopped a PSU scoring drive. In every game there are questionable calls. Instant replay has helped (thank Joe for taking all the heat from the press for complaining about the poor officiating after two seasons of Michigan and Iowa homer calls — which clearly led to instant replay in the Big 10 and NCAA). How dare Joe for running down the official and grabbing him after costing PSU another Big 10 game?

At least with instant replay, no team should benefit from having a fifth down (that wasn’t Missouri in 1994 was it)?

Unfortunately, Nebraska will soon have new memories of poor officiating from Big 10 officials that will allow you to forget 1982. For example, watch the side judge when he walks from the sideline to mark the ball for first down measurements – he tends to walk at an angle that favors Michigan, regardless of who is on offense. I still remember Paterno physically restraining Coach McQuery as this happened repeatedly in one Michigan “loss”.

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by OlderBudweiser on Feb 22, 2011 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Or even sometimes just take a giant sideways step

to move the ball to the first down marker.

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by Paige2PSU on Feb 22, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Of all the horrible calls in that horribly officiated game

That scene stands out most in my mind. He walked 2 yards left. 2 YARDS! That gave them the first down. I almost had an aneurism when I watched that.

The second thing that stands out most in my mind was Mario Maningham (at least I think it was him) clearly stepping out of bounds during the final drive, picking up 10-15 more yards, and not even a replay came of it. The announcers were all over it, but still, nothing happened.

I don’t even remember the 02 seconds because I was so blinded with rage about the rest of the game. Kick innocent puppies mad.

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by psuphysicist on Feb 22, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope, not Manningham.

Steve Breaston, Pennsylvania native.

I was in the 8th row, corner endzone watching that completed pass. It was like our defense just stood still. Most devastating loss ever.

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by Adam Collyer on Feb 22, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the correction

Every time I think about that play, all I can see is his right foot, clearly out of bounds. I have no memory of anything else.

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by psuphysicist on Feb 22, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure

it was actually Jason Avant

by state08 on Feb 22, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Aha!

The seldom-seen, double-error inaccurate correction. Like seeing a wildabeast in the wild.

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by jtothep on Feb 22, 2011 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah you're right.

Breaston on the return.

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by Adam Collyer on Feb 22, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Bradley...

if I recall, was the one who was given a sideline warning because he was basically aligning himself with the “true spot” after each play and yelling at the officials as they moved the ball up in the Michigan way.

Regardless, there were other reasons contributing to that game’s atrocity, but its pretty obvious that, unless you are blowing scUM out the water, the refs will find ways to keep them in it.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Feb 22, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Bradley was all over them all day

But in this one particular instance McQueery looked like he was ready to strangle the ref with some piano wire. Had I not been so mad it would have been comical.

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by psuphysicist on Feb 22, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And I remember...

what many people fail to are the three holding penalties called on Nebraska center Dave Remington, the only holding penalties (3 in one game!) ever called against Mr. Remington during his entire 4 year collegiate career. The very same Dave Remington that now has his name on a trophy given to the most outstanding center in college football every year.

And more so than just the penalties, but the peculiar way and times at which they came. At least two of them came on the heels of a Nebraska running back running through the Penn State defense for a big run, likely taking away two scoring opportunities for Gill and CO.

It is and always has been real obvious what happened that day back in 1982. That crew just happened to have on it a referee, (won’t use his name, but I know it) that had a son that was a star tailback for Joe Pa and PSU a few years prior in the late 70’s! This guy was the official that tossed the flags on Remington, and was involved in the McCloskey play and the trapped td the last play of game. It is clear what was going on. Just doing good ole Joe Pa and PSU a favor that day.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 26, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, yes, classic arrogant fan attitude. Our players are the greatest players ever, it’s not at all possible that they aren’t perfect.

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

GOsh

you might actually have a point, if Nebraska fans themselves were the ones that actually established the trophy in the name of Dave Remington. But, no it was declared the Remington Trophy by a board of directors with not a thing, no attachment to Nebraska or Mr. Remington.

Pull your head out of the sane. The 82 game was just an abomination of classlessness at the hands of a cowardly official doing everything in his power to help good ol’ Joe Pa and PSU stay undefeated. I’m sure you know his name.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I don't know his name because I'm not an angry, crazy person.

Nobody’s perfect. Not even an amazing, half-God Nebraska player with a trophy (!) named after him.

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude, you are so right, you little superfan

But I never heard of Dave Remington? Although there was this 2 time all-american named Dave Rimington

by jrock4 on Mar 3, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So you

think the official that had a son that was a star tailback for Joe and PSU just a few short years before this game didn’t do good ol Joe and PSU a favor that day back in 1982.

Classic sticking your head in the sand, classic denial behavior.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

There was a second shooter, we never landed on the moon, 9/11 was an inside job. Any other consipiracies you want to throw out there?

I mean, man, I’m sure you have some decent points, but when you start posting this obnoxiously and this arrogantly it really takes away from the whole, maybe its worth listening to the guy thing.

I’ll give you an example. You are like PETA, sure their mission is great and they have some pretty good points but when you take it to the illogical extreme everything you say is tarnished and must be taken with a grain of salt.

As an aside, thanks for filling me in on the kinetics of the human body earlier. I assume your expertise on that matches your expertise on everything else.

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by psuphysicist on Mar 2, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

All of a sudden

I don’t care much for Nebraska fans. And I never even met one in person.

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by letsgopsu on Mar 2, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Runza sounds good. Red beer on ther other hand

sound like a concoction a freshman with no imagination at a bar school would cook up.

But since I have the necessary ingredients in my fridge at the moment, I will try it. To bring diplomacy to this official rivalry.

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by Mr. Rosewater on Feb 22, 2011 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Try both versions - with vodka and without.

It might take some trial and error, but I bet vodka, tomato juice and beer could be good. Or it could be Four Loko bad.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Feb 22, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

is it 50 beer 50 juice?

seriously, I can’t imagine this being good. but again, I’ll try it.

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by Mr. Rosewater on Feb 22, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Brave, brave, silly man.

Why would you ruin beer (even if it’s not good beer) by putting tomato juice in it?

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Feb 22, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

we must be diplomatic towards other cultures

by trying their native foods and beverages

"Life is no way to treat an animal"

by Mr. Rosewater on Feb 22, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Even cultures with too much time on their hands...

Like the central american citizen who looked at an agave plant and thought, “I’ll bet I could make that thing drinkable…”

by Smee on Feb 22, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

It amazes me

but people seem to be able to figure out a way to make booze out of anything.

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by psuphysicist on Feb 22, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

/tauntingly toward Along the Olentangy

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by jtothep on Feb 22, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think you can ruin Natural Light.

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by psuphysicist on Feb 22, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

you can't really

ruin Keystone Light either.

the point is – you’re not mixing tomato juice (or in my case, V8) with a good beer. you’re mixing it with (as I said) – “Cheap American Beer”.

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by Jon Johnston on Feb 22, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Say what you will...

but red beer is great. Even kinda healthy, in a “wow that is a reach” sort of way.

But, hey, don’t buy it. Lowers the demand, and ergo the price, and let us drink par excellence cheaply.

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by meatybob on Feb 23, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

For Science!

Gus, don't be a gooey chocolate chip cookie.

by IcersGuy on Feb 22, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

full can of beer

and a full little can of V8. and tabasco.

In the morning, preferably Saturday.

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by Jon Johnston on Feb 22, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know Jon,,,

they just don’t get the Red Beer thing!!! Love them after a rough night!!!

Rock out with your Stalk out!!!
Smoke em' if you got em'!!!
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by sd.husker on Feb 22, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I have Yuengling

it don’t need fixin

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by letsgopsu on Feb 22, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Hear, hear!!

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Feb 22, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

!994

I will admit that Nebraska had a good to great D in 94. PSU’s Offense was great to excellent and mostly unstoppable. PSU’s O would have out-scored Neb’s O. Look at all the weapons PSU had, and the brick wall of O-lineman blocking for them. Nobody could stop that team enough to win in 94.

by PSU Flojo11 on Feb 22, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

!994

I will admit that Nebraska had a good to great D in 94. PSU’s Offense was great to excellent and mostly unstoppable. PSU’s O would have out-scored Neb’s O. Look at all the weapons PSU had, and the brick wall of O-lineman blocking for them. Nobody could stop that team enough to win in 94.

by PSU Flojo11 on Feb 22, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

"It's an urban setting."

I’ve been to Lincoln. I wouldn’t characterize anything for several hundred miles as “urban.”

/too country since 1855

by BurrowesBldg on Feb 22, 2011 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

That was the first line that jumped out to me

Between that and their predictions for the 1994 game, I don’t think these guys should be involved in any future Q&As, unless the question we need to have answered is: how can I ruin my beer?

by kijana's acl on Feb 22, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

"Urban" legend...

According to the US Census Bureau estimates for July 1, 2009, here are the populations of several BIG TEN metro areas:
   - State College – 146,212
   - Iowa City – 152,263
   - Bloomington – 185,598
   - Lafayette – 196,329
   - Champaign-Urbana – 226,132
   - Lincoln – 298,012
   - Ann Arbor – 347,563
So, compared to Happy Valley, anyone else in the BT is “urban”…

by Smee on Feb 22, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

MAPS ARE FUN...AND URBAN IS A RELATIVE TERM.

Burrowes said…

I wouldn’t characterize anything for several hundred miles as "urban."

This is why:

So while Lincoln might be some kind of Metropolis compared to SC, that figure along clearly does not paint the entire picture regarding its surroundings and “feel”.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Feb 22, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

True that...

And I think HM was just referring to the stadium as “urban”, which is, as a lot of on-campus stadiums are, surrounded by buildings and not plenty of open tailgating space. Which we would have if they hadn’t moved it in the 50’s. And if we dig down further on the map and just color Centre County it turns out it’s the same color as Neb – 27 ppl/sq. mi.

All of which is too much detail. Bottom line – looking forward to welcoming Neb. back to the Beav later this year (where our lights are permanent now).

Do they still have that “jiggy” mascot?

by Smee on Feb 22, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, that map fails to take geography into account.

When you dump 146k people in a valley, you aren’t subjected to existential crises. When you dump 300k people on flat prairie, looking at the outskirts of town is like looking at a scene from No Country for Old Men.

by BurrowesBldg on Feb 22, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Just because its "urban" doesn't mean its "good" or "preferable".

When is the last time you have heard someone say “I just love Philly!” or “I would really like to live in Pittsburgh! Its so clean!”.

It is about as much as those phrases are used about Omaha and Lincoln. Neb. is farms and hicks. Penn is white flight and urban decay.

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by meatybob on Feb 23, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

You shouldn't base your knowledge of Pittsburgh off of what people from Philly say.

Pittsburgh is holding steady in terms of population now and it hasn’t been really dirty for more than twenty years.

You also sound like you haven’t been to the rest of Pennsylvania lately. First, the population in Central Pennsylvania is just fine and there is no rural decay like in western and central portions of Nebraska (Frankly, I find rural decay much more depressing).

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by ReadingRambler on Feb 23, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I love living in Philly actually...

so suck it.

PA has plenty of farms and hicks too.

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by Artiefufkin10 on Feb 23, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

For the Record...

US News and Workd Reports states that Penn State’s setting is “urban”.

by dontcallmescooter on Feb 23, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Bah, technicalities.

We really just need to know Pryor’s opinion before we can make an informed statement.

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by Adam Collyer on Feb 23, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

1994 was given to Nebraska

because everyone felt sorry for Osborne. It had nothing to do with Nebraska being a better team. Even the backups on that PSU offense had 8-10 year careers in the NFL…except for Jurevicious, he had like a 12 or 13 year career.

Honestly, I hate NEB already…and from this point on, I refuse to acknowledge that those d-bags have ever used the moniker “NU”

by rodney20 on Feb 22, 2011 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

I refuse to use "NU"

I prefer to use one some Nebraska fans hate for some reason: UNL.

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by ReadingRambler on Feb 22, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It's fair

I mean, how do we know we’re not talking about the University of Nebraska-Omaha?

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by jtothep on Feb 22, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

WUT?
Frazier played in three national title games, winning two, and being named MVP of all three.

Back then they “played” “title games” which could be “won”?

Needs more passive voice.

by OctaShields on Feb 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t care how many he won, he didn’t outplay Charlie Ward in ‘93 and the MVP award for ’94 should just say, "To Miami’s defense for being a bunch of wussies."

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by ReadingRambler on Feb 22, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It surprises me

that I don’t hear more ND fans complain about 93. I can’t stand ND, but I can’t imagine a team losing a head to head against another team with the same record, in November, and not having to share the MNC with them.

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by ckmneon on Feb 22, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

They don't have a history...

of being jobbed by the polls like PSU does, but it is strange that you don’t hear more from them. I guess it is hard to complain when you lost at home to BC though.

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by Esteban d' Amur on Feb 23, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh come on

He did outplay Charlie Ward that game. If not, how was he the MVP for a losing team?

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by meatybob on Feb 23, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

WTF?!

“To Miami’s defense for being a bunch of wussies.”

oh.. Because they just so happened to lose to Nebraska.

oh.. Because they just so happened to lose to Nebraska.1994 defensive statistics

oh.. Because they just so happened to lose to Nebraska.1994 defensive statisticsScoring defense

  1. Miami
  2. Nebraska

Total defense

  1. Miami
  2. Nebraska

So, if the #1 rated Hurricane defense with future NFl HOF’ers Sapp and Lewis are “wussies” ?? Cough! Cough! What would be the not so very nice insulting name for the 70th rated PSU defense? I have a few ideas, but I will let you figure that one out.

And don’t tell me that BS about, “Joe Pa played 3rd and 4th stringers and gave up points,” BS!!!!!

I guess that is how Illinois scored 21 in the first quarter, (Joe Pa started the game with the 3rd and 4th stringers) yeah, that’s the ticket! And that’s how a pathetic team like Rutgers put nearly 600 yards of offense on the PSU defense in 1994. i don’t care if it is 1st string or 3rd string, or the difference in the score! RUTGERS!! in 94 They were crap. Just tackle the damn guy with the ball. Something that the 94 PSU defense had trouble doing!

LMAO

The #1 ranked Hurricanes defense were , “wussies.” Man, I wish this game could have taken place. Those white uniforms of the PSU defense would have had the cleat marks up and down the chest of the Nebraska offensive line and of Frazier and Phillips.

The 94 PSU defense was probably very similar to the Florida defense of 95 and that is being nice to 94 PSU. Remember what happened to that Florida defense of the SEC that got a dose of a healthy Frazier and Phillips?? A Frazier in mid season form, that the Canes didn’t get one year earlier!

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's something else for ya'

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/409438-old-big-10-vs-nebraska-debate-revisted-1994-nebraska-vs-1994-penn-state

Lets see.. The 1994 Nebraska offense with Tommie Frazier having not played in 3+ months (clearly not likely as game ready, rust free, and efficient as he could have been) scores 24 points and thrashes the Miami HUrricanes #1 ranked scoring defense and total defense. Timing is crucial to any option offense and that timing just isn’t there, quite as good as it could be when the maestro of that offense has been out for 3+ months! In the 4th quarter the Hurricanes D are on their knees gassed, helmets off, with the Nebraska o line standing over them.. A Hurricane defense with two all time greats, two future NFL HOF’ers. And they had to defend Frazier for little more than a half! My god! If that #1 ranked Hurricanes defense had to defend a Frazier not 3 months removed from game action for an entire game, with LP that Hurricanes defense is done much earlier, on their hands and knees much earlier than the 4th quarter. I don’t think it would be unrealistic to say that that #1 ranked Hurricanes D would have given up 35+ points to the Nebraska offense if they got Frazier and Phillips together for a full game.

Makes it a simple correlation what that 1994 Nebraska offense, with that dominant offensive line with those skilled QB’s and rb’s does to that pillow soft PSU defense of 1994! HArd to tackle guys like a Frazier and Phillips, let alone with a dominant offensive line and a 12 year NFL startig fullback running interference for them.

Long drive after long Cornhusker clock consuming clock, leaving that PSU offense standing on the sidelines watching, probably with several long TD runs by Frazier and Phillips.. Can’t do much when you don’t have the ball! Time of possession probably looks something like Nebraska 40 PSU 20. And don’t tell me how quickly PSU would score! BS! PSU would have been facing the best defense that they had seen by far in 1994. The same defense that held another offense filled with future NFL skill position players to 7 points!

1994 Nebraska 35+ 1994 PSU 17-21

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Is what it is

Football is an emotional game, one played with emotion, especially college football played by 18-22 year old kids. The 1994 Nebraska team probably didn’t respond any differently than any team expected to compete for a National Championship and that was just learning that it will be losing its leader (a leader that many say is the best collegiate qb of all time. yeah that hurts on the field and in their heads) for an unknown amount of time. They were able to overcome it through outstanding coaching and outstanding depth.

Check the opponent scores the rest of the year following the Wyoming game A whole lot of single digit scores, teens against some solid teams, KSU, CU, Miami, to name a few.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 25, 2011 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

Because..

the University of Nebraska @ Omaha is D-II in all sports except for Ice Hockey! As opposed to NU being D-1 in all sports.

 Dimwit. Real simple

That’s how anyone with half a brain knows that if your favorite team is competing against a team from Nebraska and the schedule or scoreboard says NU, that that acronym refers to the University of Nebraska @ Lincoln sports teams and not UNO!

Let me clarify real simply..

NU/UNL – D -1 All Sports

UNO – D-II all sports, except for a D-1 hockey program. Go Mavs.

See, that wasn’t so hard.

Duh!

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 26, 2011 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

Miami defense..

is a bunch of “wussies” in your lame ass opinion.

But, that group of “wussies” with two probable first ballot NFL HOF’ers was LIGHT YEARS better than the pathetic group that Joe Pa and PSU put on the field to play defense in 1994!

94 Miami defense>>>>>>>>>> 94 PSUssies

And that poses one very large problem if 94 PSU had the misfortune of playing 94 Nebraska with athletes like Frazier, Phillips, Schleisinger and Co running behind the best, most physical, nastiest, strongest, deepest, kick your ass all over this field “O” line that Nebraska ever put on the field. And there were many of those during the Osborne tenure but 94 and 95 were the best.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 26, 2011 5:16 PM EST reply actions  

a title "given" and not earned??

oh my god..

Want to talk about a title being given to a team by the voters.

Go back to 1982..

Penn State gets waxed by 3 td’s by Bama, falls behind Nebraska in the polls after that game. Both teams win out then at end of season voters see fit to jump PSU over Nebraska.

So STFU about a title being “given” by way of peculiar poll voting.

The 1982 “national championship” for PSU has to be the greatest example of the mythical title in the history of college football.

1. Penn State needed a huge helping hand to beat Nebraska in 1982 (by way of an official that just a few years prior had a son that was a star tailback for PSU) and

2. Gets whipped by Bama by 21 and

3. Drops in polls after the Bama beatdown, but miraculously rises to top of polls at end of season.

Shut your trap about a title being “given” and not earned.

1982 Penn State – got to be the only "national champion that got their butts kicked by 3 td’s!

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 26, 2011 9:05 PM EST reply actions  

ACtually..

the Nebraska defense was the #2 rated scoring defense and total defense.

But, “Nebraska’s defense wasn’t that much better than ours” oh please!!!

COUGH! COUGH! CHOKE! CHOKE!

YOu keep telling yourself that bucky.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 27, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

Nebraska hit on Wyoming Qb in 1994

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xu_AvSC7us&feature=related

scroll to 1:50 of the above video.

Watch what happens to the Wyoming Qb after the Husker defense got their game face on after a flat first quarter. Yep, they came out flat, uninterested and disappointed early in game, as did the whole team.

 Even Joe Tiller, Wyoming’s coach at the time, Purdues coach now, said he wasn’t surprised, sort of expected it, that Nebraska came out like they did, considering the turmoil that the team went through in the week leading up to the game, and Wyoming did take advantage of it a bit in the first quarter. From the end of 1st quarter on it was 42-17 Nebraska.

The Nebraska Blackshirts hammered this Wyoming QB, picked him off several times after the first quarter, almost like they took it personally. Just watch what happened to Wyomings Qb at 1:50 of the video. FYI.. He was out for the 10 count, flat on his back for 10 minutes, carried off the field after being scooped up. After the last of countless hits/sacks by the Nebraska D.

A stand in the pocket, can’t move to avoid the rush, flat footed, slow moving big target sort of like K. Collins. They would get to Collins.

by Andy P skers94 on Feb 28, 2011 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

Damn I love watching this..

video, especially that train-wreck on the Wyoming QB of 94 at 1:50.

The Nebraska defense played like a bunch of rabid wild dogs in 1994. And when they bit, they bit hard. As evidenced by the train-wreck at 1:50.

What did the Wyoming QB and K. Collins have in common? Both big, stand in the pocket, slow footed, can’t avoid the rush pocket passers that the Blackshirts ate for lunch through the mid 90’s.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

My facts are..

perfectly straight. The DVD you have is probably much like the re-broadcast that ESPN plays every year of this game that doesn’t show every play. It was 3rd down, in fact a 3rd and long play db, that’s why McCloskey was running to the first down marker lying on the sideline. Just because the tape/dvd you may have, which I bet is likely the smae version that ESPN uses, doesn’t show the previous twos plays, doesn’t mean it was first down.

Was third and long.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

No, they aren't.

And I’m pretty sure I’m the more trustworthy person here for a couple of reasons:

1) You talk like a douchebag.
2) I have the DVD. It consists of the original CBS broadcast. Do you have a DVD of the game in question? Have you watched the game within the last two months?
3) If you can watch this video and say McCloskey was “”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sDPnEtqYgo" target="new">running to the first down marker", then you’re just plain dumb, frankly. Seriously.

The pass in question came after Blackledge (Who was not, of course, on the same level as legendary Huskers like Jamall Lord or Zac Taylor) gained a first down conversion (Although it really wasn’t, JoePa paid the refs to ignore….something bad Penn State did! He’s so evil!) by throwing a strike to Kenny Jackson (Fact: Kenny Jackson couldn’t start for any Nebraska team ever!). The pass to McCloskey came on first down.

Your insistence that it was on third down is the kind of childish thing I expect from you. I don’t know why I’m responding to you. I need therapy.

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope, it was second down.

As you can see at the beginning of that video. Previous play was a short scramble by Todd Blackledge (If Blackledge played for Nebraska, it would have been a touchdown!) and the play before that was the 4th down pass to Jackson (Irving Fryar would have had a touchdown there!).

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

So you

don’t find it in anyway peculiar that through the entirety of Remington’s career at Nebraska, 3 years as a starter, that no time before, or after the 1982 PSU game that Remington was ever whistled for holding, but then three in one game against PSU!??

Maybe that’s why many consider him, one of the best offensive linemen/centers to play the college game and why a board of directors with no ties to Nebraska did chose to name their trophy after him.

If you say that it isn’t peculiar, that is denial talking to you.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

Dude.

First of all, learn to reply properly.

Second, it’s Rimington. If you’re gonna idolize the guy, at least spell his frigging name right.

Third, I’m not saying it’s not peculiar. But again, I don’t worship at the feet of Nebraska players like you do, so I’m willing to think it’s possible that maybe, just maybe Dave Rimington could have committed some penalties. Penn State had some good linemen, like Greg Gattuso and Walker Lee Ashley.

Oh, and finally, this SI article from 1982 says Rimington was called for holding once that season. So that kinda makes it impossible for him to have been called for holding thrice in one game, now doesn’t it?

So far, you’ve shown an inability to grasp the facts.

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 2, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't help it

if a server is f upped somewhere and regurgitates information in my posts/doesn’t work properly when I respond. I am quite functional thank you very much. Deal with it.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

So..

the #1 rated Miami Hurricanes Scoring Defense and Total Defense were a bunch of “wussies” because they got owned and overwhelmed by the dominant, nasty, kick your ass all over this field offensive line of the 94 Huskers. Even though that Hurricane defense likely had two first ballot NFL HOF’ers at the first two levels (DL and LB) of that defense. I guess that proves NFL players are human and get knocked the F out and put on their ass just like anyone else.

So tell me.. In your opinion the #1 rated Canes defense were a bunch of “wussies”, so what does that make the 70 th ranked defense of 94 PSU. I know, instead of the Nittany Lions, they are forever known as the kitty kats. MEOW!

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

oh because

they happened to lose to Nebraska.

Maybe the reason the 94 Canes D with Sapp and Lewis got worn down, worn out, was that nasty, physical, smash mouth, mean, kick your ass all over this field Nebraska offensive line. An offensive line group that goes down as the best Nebraska offensive line during Osborne’s 25 year tenure. And anyone that watches or knows about college football knows that Nebraska produced many many good offensive lines during that time yet 94 and 95 were the best, deepest and most talented.

That’s what Nebraska teams did to people under Osborne. That’s why he stuck with the run game all those years and why it paid off. The run game dominates teams, the offensive line wears people out, especially in the 2nd half/4th qtr. Exactly what happened to the Canes. They were beaten physically, mentally by a team that was trained for years to be the more physical, tougher team and it often paid off in the fourth quarter.

Nebraska practiced this physicality, this mentality every day in practice. Many many players form those teams said that the games they played in on Saturdays were far easier to endure than practice during the week.

I guess that’s one reason that 94 and 95 Nebraska were so dominant.

I wish Frazier and LP could have played an entire year together in the same backfield. At the time, possibly the best Nebraska QB and RB, in the same backfield, playing behind a dominant group of o lineman. But fate wasn’t going to allow that.

They never played more than 5 games together in one year because of 1) Frazier’s health issues of 94 and 2) LP’s issues of 95. No team may have come within 3 td’s of them if Frazier and LP played every game together in 94 and 95.

Just an interesting thought.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong.

They were wussies because they played like wussies. Sapp danced around like a big, dumb, happy baby before the game started but then he and Ray-Ray folded like a house of cards as soon as the going got tough. It was pathetic, and doubly so because of NBC crowning your hypocritcal, self-righteous coach and fanbase national champions as a result of Da U’s folding.

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by ReadingRambler on Mar 4, 2011 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

YOu only

wish the kitty kat defense, MEOW!, that Joe Pa put on the field in 1994 was half as good or half as talented as the 94 Hurricane group.

The 94 Nebraska offensive line would have manhandled, trucked, monkey stomped to the ground, then left cleat marks up and down the chest of the 94 kitty kat defense.

MEOW!

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

1994 PSU defense

the “kitty kat brigade” Meow!

I know.. Now instead of the “roaring lion” from the PA address system, should replace it with a meek “meow” when the PSU defense comes on the field.

A way to remember the 94 PSU defense. Meow!!

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 5, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Nebraska o line

would b- slap that pillow soft “kitty kat brigade” defense up and down the field. How the heck do you expect the “kitty kat brigade” to tackle guys like Frazier and Phillips after getting knocked the F out, put on their ass by that offensive line?

oh wait.. Almost forgot.. Then behind that offensive line, even before Frazier or Phillips runs through the seismic size hole in defensive front, we got a 10-12 year NFL starter at FB!

How the heck you expect that “kitty kat brigade” defense to deal with that, to tackle Frazier and Phillips while on their backside like a girl??

The same defense that gave up nearly 600 yards of total offense to Rutgers!!!! Yeah, I know. Yadda! Yadda! Yadda! Joe played the entire bench.

Rutgers? Really… In 94!? I don’t care the score, don’t care if Joe Pa let the students come dwon from the stands to play defense. Rutgers??!!

 Rutgers was flat dog-meat in 94’

Just tackle the guy with the damn ball! Something that the “kitty kat brigade” defense struggled to do in 1994.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, what's your name?

“Walker.” Herschel Walker? “No, Walker Lee Ashley . . . you’ll be hearing about me.” That might be the greatest conversation of all time. And apologies for commenting days later – but I had no idea Andy existed until today. Ashley was a stud.

by cwarner28 on Mar 4, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

1982 PSU

got to be the only “national champion” and I use that term extremely loosely, to get their asses beat-down by 20 or more points.

Talk about a “mythical champion” or one “given” to them w/o real merit by way of the voters.

I.E. Sympathy for Joe Pa because of earlier undefeated seasons (and no NC) by PSU under Joe Pa, while an independent, and playing every East Coast patsie up and down the eastern seaboard.

I bet we could look through the annals of previous National Championship teams and not find one that got whipped by 20 or more points, but somehow still was awarded the NC.

So, you believe everything that our nations media publicizes?? Wow..

Thanks for the Rimington correction. My honest mistake. Oh well! It happens.

It was a well known fact after the 82 game that Rimington was called for 3 penalties regardless of what you want to beleive. SI never made an erroneous error? Gosh, I stopped reading that crap magazine about 20 years ago.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 5:26 PM EST reply actions  

Arrogance?

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/19/sports/on-college-football-paterno-got-his-share-of-calls-over-the-years.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm

The above article is exactly why I am here and can’t stand anything to do with PSU or Joe Pa.

And really.. It wasn’t always this way.. I used to really respect PSU and Joe Pa, even after 1982. But, then something happened..say about 2002, at Iowa.

Joe doesn’t like how the game was officiated and he chases down the refs and puts his hands on the refs to bitch and complain. Say what Joe Pa!!??? Talk about arrogance, self-righteousness, holy than though Joe Pa.

Funny, I don’t recall T.O. or any other Nebraska coach chasing officials down in the tunnel after the 1982 game. They certainly had every right to feel cheated and be upset about it. But, no.. T.O. and the Nebraska staff walked quietly off the field.

Nebraska and PSU have had a nice series during my lifetime. On more than one occasion PSU and Joe Pa have beat Nebraska and were just the better, more prepared team on game day. And one of those was a real beating, but 1982 was not one of those years, 1982 they needed corruption and assistance to even squeak by with a victory.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

well, certainly someone must have agreed with Joe about the terrible officiating

since instant replay came about soon after as an almost direct result of JoePa’s “bitching and complaining”.

For someone who doesn’t like “bitching and complaining”, you sure do a lot of it.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

HOly Cow

The NCAA instituted instant replay after 2002 because Joe Pa and PSU happened to be on the wrong end of a call or two that wasn’t favorable to PSU. Wow. Implying that the NCAA jumped at the whim of Joe pa and PSU.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 5, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

and I’m not just making it up. The Big Ten instituted instant replay like 2 years after JoePa called for a review of the league’s officiating. The Big Ten, which is steeped in tradition, was the first conference to allow instant replay, and the following year the rest of college football followed suit.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2004-08-04-replay-details_x.htm

The use of replay in the Big Ten has been discussed for more than a decade, but it gained momentum when Penn State asked for a review of the league’s officiating after coach Joe Paterno complained about several calls during the 2002 season.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 6, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

talk like a db??

Oh.. Your feelings are hurt. Grow some skin. I’ve kept it clean, refrained from harsh name-calling or out and out profanity laced tirades, but I talk like a douchebag??

Oh.. Your feelings are hurt. Grow some skin. I’ve kept it clean, refrained from harsh name-calling or out and out profanity laced tirades, but I talk like a douchebag??I tell it like it is.. Don’t pull any punches. If you have issue with that, I don’t care.

Oh.. Your feelings are hurt. Grow some skin. I’ve kept it clean, refrained from harsh name-calling or out and out profanity laced tirades, but I talk like a douchebag??I tell it like it is.. Don’t pull any punches. If you have issue with that, I don’t care.grow a pair

Oh.. Your feelings are hurt. Grow some skin. I’ve kept it clean, refrained from harsh name-calling or out and out profanity laced tirades, but I talk like a douchebag??I tell it like it is.. Don’t pull any punches. If you have issue with that, I don’t care.grow a pair

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

If it

were a one time incident with this guy (the official that had son play for Joe P and PSU) then not much could be said about it and it would be a non issue. But over and over and over, there were controversial/awful calls, in a handful of important games for PSU that always benefited Joe Pa and PSU.

The common factor in each of these games, each a close game, with the outcome largely hanging on one awful call; that said official, with significant ties to Joe Pa and PSU.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 2, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

What the heck

do guys like J. Lord and Zac Taylor have to do with either 82 or 94? Nothing. That is a strange, interesting phenomenon that only PSU fans seem to use. Have seen it time and time again from PSU fans.

Bringing former Nebraska players into the equation that they feel aren’t quite on par with some highly esteemed PSU player. So what.. Who gives a darn. Whoop de do.

Yep PSU put a licking on a bad Nebraska team with Lord as the qb. Oh well. It happens. So what.. Not a thing to do with 82 or 94 now does it??

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 12:36 AM EST reply actions  

Allow me to make a blanket statement: You are a stereotypical Nebraska fan and like all stereotypical Nebraska fans, you are arrogant, silly, and have a total inability to grasp humor or sarcasm.

"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 3, 2011 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

If you don't

like it when when someone shoots ya’ straight, tells it like it is, go cry to holier than thou Joe Pa. Go tell good ol Joe I hurt your feelings.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

You're a douchebag

I’m sorry. I probably shouldn’t say this and Mike will probably yell at me but I can’t help myself. If you don’t like it when someone shoots ya’ straight, tells it like it is, go cry to holier than thou Joe Pa Tom Osborne. Go tell good ol Joe Tom I hurt your feelings.

Carpe the diem. Sieze the carp.

by jman07 on Mar 3, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can't you be original..

Use that thing between your ears to come up with your own stuff, that is if you have anything located there. Maybe not, maybe I’m giving you too much credit.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You can thank Joe Pa and

his tantrum with officials at Iowa for me being here. Up till that time I really had positive thoughts about Joe and PSU. That went out the window after that episode.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's the real problem: He hasn't memorized any facts.

He says Rimington was called for three holdings in that game. Real fact: Rimington was called for holding only once that year. He says the controversial pass to McCloskey was on third down. Real fact: it was on second down. He says JoePa made the refs call the game his way. Real fact: fire can’t melt steeel.

"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 3, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

But but but

Remington is a gun! Guns can’t hold! Therefore, Remington can’t hold! Wait… I’m spelling his name wrong? My logic is ruined!

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 3, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I know that scenario would never happen as it would take Andy P admitting he was wrong about something. However, I think that the logic I used would seem perfectly right by him.

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 3, 2011 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

YOu mean facts..

like. “Nebraska’s defense (in 94) isn’t that much better than ours.”

Anyone outside of PA would say balogna!

Since you refer to the 94 Hurricanes with two NFL HOF’ers as "wussies. " I think the new permanent name for the PSU defense is the kitty kats. MEOW!

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The difference is that Rambler never claimed

his statement as fact, just as his opinion. People are allowed to have their own opinion even if you don’t agree with them. The way to convince people that you are correct is to present your case in a calm and logical way, not to call people names and overwhelm everyone here with the sheer number and length of your face-meltingly bad comments. After one of your comments in the middle of this thread I swear this is what I felt like:

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 3, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

My comments are right on the money..

if you can’t handle them stick it where the sun…

I chewed up and spit out ramblers lame opinion with fact.

FACT; Nebraska #2 rated total and scoring defense! Playing a better schedule than 94 PSU. And that is a fact as shown in earlier comment..

FACT; PSU #70 total defense.

So, it is ramblers “opinion” that although there are 68 other team defenses between the 94 Husker unit and the 94 PSU unit, PSU still isn’t that far behind. BS!

Nowhere have I called anyone any profane names or even used any vulgarity.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

false

That statement is neither here or there you arrogant db

http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2011/2/22/2001077/getting-to-know-you-q-a-with-nebraska-blog-corn-nation-part-1#60493701

remember, anything you say on the internet is there forever. While you didn’t spell out the profane name or vulgarity, you still called someone them

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Also
Use that thing between your ears to come up with your own stuff, that is if you have anything located there. Maybe not, maybe I’m giving you too much credit.

Saying that someone doesn’t have a brain could be considered an insult

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 3, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Mauti Matters

by letsgopsu on Mar 3, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I am allowed my opinion

and I replied to any comment from anyone that appeared absurd.

If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You are right to have your opinion

It just seems like you don’t respect any opinion that is different from your own. Also, telling people that if they don’t like your opinion they should leave on another team’s site is arrogance that borders on insanity

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 3, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a reasonable..

thing to do. If you don’t like something, don’t pay attention to it.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right, that is reasonable

So I think I’ll be the reasonable one here and ignore you. I should have paid attention to the sign upon entering:

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 3, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You can thank your "saint"

Joe Pa for my attitude regarding PSU and “saint” Joe Pa.

Like I said in earlier post, I had a great deal of respect for all things PSU and for Joe Pa, up until say about 2002. You don’t like me telling it like it is, go tell “saint” Joe Pa.

Since he chased officials off the field and put his hands on them to complain my general attitude for good ol’ boy Joe changed drastically.

Gosh, I don’t remember anyone associated with Nebraska chasing officials of the field to cry, bitch or moan about calls.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/19/sports/on-college-football-paterno-got-his-share-of-calls-over-the-years.html?pagewanted=1

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

16-2

penalty differential. Was really 18-2 considering that aTm declined two penalties. Pretty clear what was going on that night.

2 penalties on a team that came in as one of the most penalized teams in the country. LMAO! Cough ! Cough!

aTm just went to big brother texass and Beebe and said, “we want to beat Nebraska too on the way out, make sure it happens.”

Clear and obvious example of one of the multitude of reasons that Nebraska left the big texas league.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

holy friggin shit, are you serious?

so it is ok for Carl Pelini to assault a cameraman after a poorly officiated game, but if JoePa chases down an official (who was making bad calls all game) and grabs him (in a non-threatening manner, just to get his attention as he’s running off the field), that’s somehow inexcusable and the reason you hate “Saint Joe”?

I swear a psych ward is more sane than this.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Where in that statement do

I say that I condone Carl Pelini’s actions? The Pelini’s are hot heads and frankly I am a little tired of both of their acts.

Although, I wear my heart on my sleeve too, I was an athlete, played the game with a great deal of emotion, but sometimes both Bo and Carl need to temper it a bit.

Knowing what was going on in the big 12, I can’t say I blame them, but I won’t condone the actions.

It has been going on for years in the Big 12. The way texas came into the league, throwing their weight around, bullying to get their way, they had to dominate Nebraska on the field as well as in the boardroom.

Can you imagine how it would it look if they came into the league and Nebraska beat them on the field. And a .500 record against Nebraska wasn’t going top be good enough. texas owned the entire league

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

you are implicitly condoning the actions

by stating what caused the outrage (18-2 penalty disparity) as some sort of excuse for those actions. I will admit that it was atrocious. I will also admit that the poor calls by the officials that JoePa was mad about were atrocious. I will not say, “Like I said in earlier post, I had a great deal of respect for all things PSU and for Joe Pa the Pelinis, up until say about 2010”

Either you hate both Nebraska and Penn State for representatives laying hands on other people after poorly officiated games, or you are a hypocrite. Honestly I don’t really care, as I already think you are insane, but if it isn’t pointed out someone might accidentally read something you wrote and think there’s rationality behind it.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

correction to my "quote"

“Like I said in earlier post, I had a great deal of respect for all things PSU Nebraska and for Joe Pa the Pelinis, up until say about 2002 2010”

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't care..

Frankly, a good deal of my venom might be for this reason….

PSU has the rings for 1982, flies a banner that says 1982 NC (regardless of where you stand on the two plays to end game) and PSU fans/supporters make no apology about wanting and demanding 1994 too!

That’s arrogance in its purest form.

So, that being said..

 I feel a strong inclination to NEVER give an INCH regarding 94. And I think most ardent Nebraska supporters feel the same.

I don’t think most people realize it, but the 94 and 95 Nebraska (remember what the 95 team did) teams were largely the same team. Especially, the offense.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

PSU people are more than willing to share 1994.

We don’t want it outright (at least most don’t). We see 2 undefeated teams from major conferences, against comparably hard schedules, and don’t see how one team can clearly be claimed superior.

As for 1982, Penn State beat Nebraska head to head that year. Maybe the call was bad, maybe it wasn’t. Controversial? Definitely. Penn State still could have won that one with the rest of the game, but I admit if I was a Nebraska fan I would have felt robbed, just like I felt robbed at the 2002 Iowa game, and watching the 2002 Michigan game. I felt robbed at the 2005 Michigan game (costing us another shot at a national championship). Heck, I even feel robbed that pass interference was called at the 2008 Iowa game. That’s what fans do, they feel robbed at close and controversial calls, and pull for their home team.

If you were wearing blue and white in 1982 you’d be here saying “he was clearly dragging his feet. The physics of the human body clearly show that his foot wasn’t in the air” and so on. That’s just the nature of fandom. There are no clear rights and wrongs, though, and the games that were actually played resulted in the way they did.

Unfortunately no game was played in 1994, and a bunch of newspapers decided to say Nebraska was better. Penn State fans felt hosed, and it wasn’t the first time. JoePa has had 5 undefeated seasons, only 1 of which has received a national championship trophy. But hey, continue being outraged over one close controversial call where no one can conclusively say one way or the other without having some bias.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you ever seen a ..

disparity in penalties like that?? In any time of your career watching football.

And keep in mind it was really 18-2. Ever seen a disparity like that at any level?

I haven’t.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

And again,

that’s an excuse for Pellini assaulting a cameraman?

Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.

by icavalera on Mar 3, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

let me save Andy from the trouble of responding. No, it isn't an excuse

there’s never an excuse for hitting a cameraman, but c’mon, if there ever was an excuse it would have to be an 18-2 disparity in penalties. AmIright? Wink wink, nudge nudge.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 3, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually..

you know what.. It really isn’t that I have issue with Joe Pa chasing officials down and arguing/complaining. WE are all human and emotions some times get the best of us all, especially in a game that we all invest as much energy and emotion in as college football.

That’s why I love the college game over the NFL.

It might be more to with Joe Pa and PSU, as noted by the NY Times article, having been on the other side of numerous of those calls that can and do decide football games.

And for the record. although I don’t agree with what Carl did after the aTm game, he didn’t assault the cameraman. He pushed the camera. Never actually made physical contact in aggressive manner with the camera man.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Furthermore I was referring to 1982

“don’t remember anyone associated with Nebraska (in 1982) chasing officials up the tunnel at Happy Valley.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

By golly..

a Remington sure is a gun. Must have been what was on my mind. oh well, it has been nearly 30 years since Dave suited up for the Cornhuskers.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 3, 2011 2:38 PM EST reply actions  

To bad the teams couldn't have

worked out something after the bowl games and we could put all this conjecture and speculation to rest.

Wonder if that could ever happen.. Two teams finish undefeated and they stage their own game, without network or NCAA approval. What would it take?

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 4, 2011 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

Lawrence Phillips

http://www.youtube.com/user/luvdaskers?feature=mhum#p/f

The 94 PSU “kitty kat brigade” is going to stop this guy running behind that dominant Nebraska offensive line. Doh.. and than Tommie Frazier!?? Cough! Cough!

Keep dreaming.

Not making a proclamation about LP, the very troubled person, just appreciate the special athlete that he was. I like to see former players do well, and it hurts to know LP just couldn’t stay on the right track.

Watch the number of broken ankles, jock straps that this 6’2" 220 lb athlete leaves in his wake. And after making those sick moves, he blazes away. Bodies left all over the field trying to tackle LP. Would have torched the 94 PSU “kitty kat brigade.”

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 5, 2011 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

both PSU and Nebraska's opponents averaged about 6 wins over the season

Penn State won by an average of 26 points, while Nebraska won by an average of 23 points.

Penn State had an amazing offense, and a mediocre defense that year. If you are going to claim that Nebraska had an amazing defense, then their offense must have been mediocre, to not perform as well as Penn State did against a similar schedule. You cannot claim that Nebraska’s offense AND defense were so clearly superior when the results on the field don’t reflect that.

So, if Nebraska’s defense was good enough to stop Penn State’s offense, then Penn State’s defense would be good enough to stop Nebraska’s offense. Obviously in a real game it wouldn’t play out exactly like that, and that’s why you see often lopsided national championship games where teams are supposedly evenly matched, but without the game actually being played that’s the only comparisons that could be made.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 6, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Scoring differential

is neither here or there because many factors influence score differential that a) end of game some times play out strangely and scores can be artificial and b) injuries/health issues to key players, i.e. something Nebraska had to deal with all year and PSU did not.

Nebraska was without the services of front line players for much of the year, PSU didn’t get bit by that bug like NU.

Remember what i said about scoring differentials being artificially influenced. What do you think that score differential looks like if Frazier plays all year in 1994? I have a really good and accurate guess. Since 1994 Nebraska, especially the offense, was largely the exact same team as1995, (remember what they did) it is a fair assumption to make that if Frazier played all of 94 that Nebraska is scoring 50 or more points a game as they did in 95 (same offense) and possibly leading the country in scoring and not 94 PSU! Plus Nebraska has the #2 defense in the country in 94! What does that do to the scoring differential? Add 10 or more points to Nebraska’s 94 scoring differential.

How do you like them there apples?

Even with Frazier being out Nebraska was in the top 10 scoring and total offenses.

So, yes Nebraska was dominant on offense and defense in 94, PSU was not and that would have bit them had they played 94 Nebraska. 94 Nebraska was dominant in the offensive line with two deep at every line position and then you got guys like LP and Frazier running behind that line. Did you happen to look at the video of LP? My god! He and Frazier would have danced on the heads of the 94 Kitty Kats.

See the thing about PSU fans is you all want to compare the 94 PSU offense to he 94 Nebraska offense as if they somehow are on the field at the same time, as if somehow one has any bearing on the other! Wrong comparison.

It’s not about offense to offense, the comparison becomes the 94 NU offense on the 94 PSU defense. A really bad match-up for the Kitty Cats. I mean really a bad matchup for the kitties. MEOW!

Even with the Frazier that Miami got, (if Frazier plays all of OB Nebraska puts 35 or more on Sapp and Co) and you think 35, 40 or more on the Kitty Kats will be a problem.

You see, back in the late 70’s, early 80’s Joe Pa and PSU had real difficulty keeping the Nebraska offense under 40 points. And that is a true fact. Osborne owns a 3-2 record against mighty Joe and and those wins came by an average score of something like 35 -10. Joe even had 6 months to prepare for Nebraska for the 1983 Kickoff Classic, against a team that he saw just a few months prior and he got 44 hung on his defense.

Frankly, the 94 offense had an even better, stronger, more athletic, more dominant offensive line than 1983, and Frazier and Phillips go down by many Cornhusker fans as the best QB and Rb respectively in Nebraska history. The best QB and RB in school history, running behind the best offensive line during Tom Osborne’s tenure. Oh My! I guess that explains why they were good. If Frazier had been able to play all year I am sure they are scoring 50 or more just like 83. I will bet the 94 PSU defense was very similar to that of 83, ie.e just very average, not very good.

The 94 Nebraska offense was just a huge physical mismatch for the 94 Kitty Kats. Ain’t no question about that. They would have been big played to death, worn the f out, worn down probably much sooner than Sapp, Lewis and Co. Then you wouldn’t look down your nose at that Canes defense.

1994 Nebraska 38-41 points on that nothing special 94 PSU Kitty Kat defense, and they get the Florida treatment of 95, if Frazier is at the top of his game.

1994 PSU , teams like Mich, Indiana, Illinois, and Ore were able to stop the PSU offense at least half the time, maybe more, so 94 Nebraska defense (better than everyone of those would do the same). Since the Kitty Kat defense can’t get Frazier, Phillips and Co of the field that means time of possession will be really lopsided in favor of Nebraska. Probably close to 2 to 1 in favor of Nebraska. NU 38-40 mins of time of possession and 94 PSU probably 20-22. YOu know what that means? That means Collins and CO get fewer possessions for their offense.

Typical game with even, or somewhat close time of possession both teams get approximately 10-12 offensive possessions. Cut that by 1/4 for 94 PSU because the 94 PSU Kitty Kats can’t get off the field. That means Collins and CO get about 8-9 possesions. Now, since the aforementioned teams stopped that mighty PSU offense half or more, Nebraska does the same. GIve 94 PSu 4 scoring possessions, three td’s and one fg. 1994 PSu offense limited to 17-24 points.

And if the 94 Nebraska defense plays like the group of rabid wild dogs that bit 94 Colorado, ALL BETS ARE OFF!

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

your imaginary world is intriguing

but I wish it was a little more consistent. You first try to use a set of statistics to say why Nebraska would dominate Penn State, and then when a similar set of statistics are pointed out that refute what you say, now all of a sudden there are too many other factors involved. You will not ever convince me, or anyone else here, that Nebraska would have won that game (so I’m not really sure why you are trying), just like no one here will be able to convince you the other way, no matter how many essays you feel you need to write on the subject matter.

I’m still not sure what this “Kitty Kat” “Meow” team you are talking about is, but I’m sure Nebraska would have dominated them. Penn State probably would dominate them as well, just like they’d dominate the NU Bob’s Big Boys. YUM.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 6, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

YOu dumb..

94 and 95 offense of Nebraska were the same. only difference was a healthy Frazier in 95! So, tell me what do you think happens to that 94 PSU kiity kat defense if they get the Frazier that FLorida got??

I think that is a legitimate question.

 Or are you counting on, hoping against all hope that if 94 PSU had played 94 Nebraska that they get a Frazier at not quite himself.

That’s cowardly.

In the spirit of competition I would hope that both team and all players would have been at their best, at the peak of their games. For a true test. Now, I know that 94 PSu didn’t have near the injuries to key players that Nebraska did, now did they.

So, if 94 PSU gets the Frazier of 95 that Fl saw (don’t tell me it’s irrelevant because he was injured) caue if you do, tells me that your really just banking on getting an injured or not up to par frazier. COWARD!

FYI.. the not quite up to par Frazier help 94 Nebraska put 38-41 points on that kitty kat brigade defense. More than enough to win.

FYI.. the not quite up to par Frazier help 94 Nebraska put 38-41 points on that kitty kat brigade defense. More than enough to win.So, tell me.. What happens if PSu gets Frazier at the top of his game??

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

this is at least the second time in this thread you have resorted to personal attacks.

A healthy Frazier certainly helps out Nebraska, but 94 Frazier would have been worse than 95 Frazier not just for injury sake but also because that’s how college football works. 93 Collins wasn’t as good as 94 Collins, etc. You are implying that the 94 Offense is exactly the same as the 95 offense, and that is also untrue. The O-line and rest of the team would have had a full season extra to come together. I’m not trying to say the 94 offense wasn’t good, but they wouldn’t have been as good as the 95 offense, with or without Frazier.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 7, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Reason won't work with him

While this makes perfect sense to you and I, team chemistry and experience is obviously beyond his capacity to understand.

"I shoot, I score. He shoots, I score." - Dan Gable

by ClaybornSmash on Mar 8, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

NU/PSU schedules of 94

For years, all I have heard from PSU fans Big 10/supporters is that “94 Nebraska played an awful schedule in 94.”

But, when the facts are laid out for everyone to see; Nebraska opponents finished with a cumulative record better than that of 94 PSU’s opponents, Nebraska played more bowl teams than 94 PSU, Nebraska played more ranked teams than PSU, the Big 8’s record record vs the Big 10 in 94 4-2 AND Nebraska played two teams that finished the season with 10 or more victories.

That last little bit is key. 94 PSU didn’t play ONE, game, not ONE against a team that finished the season with 9 or more wins! 94 PSU played a bunch of middling, to average at best teams. But, some arrogant uninformed PSU pric__ say “Nebraska’s schedule was far worse that PSU.”

Don’t you dare tell me about the “comparitive” schedules of 94 PSU and 94 Nebraska. When 94 PSu plays a couple 10 win teams, one with a 2nd string QB, and one in their HOME FIELD for a bowl game, than there MIGHT BE a reason to call the schedules of 94 PSU and 94 Nebraska “comparitive” schedules of the two teams. There was no comparison.

And one more thing jack.. Don’t you dare minimize, or marginalize what this 94 Nebraska team accomplished in over coming a lot of huge obstacles to stay unbeaten and untied. For you to sit there and say, “NBC this or that..” as if Nebraska did nothing, those players did nothing to earn those rings on their fingers, and that Sears Trophy in the trophy case is slap in the face to the hard work that these young men put into becoming great. If not for unfortunate “fate” intervening we wouldn’t even be here today, because Frazier would have played in 94, Nebraska averages 50 points a game in 94, nobody comes within 3 td’s of the 94 team as the pre-quel to what the 95 team did and people would be talking about a Nebraska team that put back to back National Champions on the field that no one came within two td’s of.

AS it stands, even with Frazier’s health issues of 94 he and Phillips still would have salppped that ass of the 94 PSU “kitty kat” brigade defense up and down the field, just like they did Sapp and CO.

Stick it up

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

DON'T YOU DARE DON'T YOU DARE

Oh, shove it, pal.

Oh, by the way, you want me to marginalize something? Ok, here we go: Tom Osborne sold his soul (If he ever had one to begin with) to win a national championship. I don’t care what you think of Joe Paterno. Your most legendary head coach let his pitiful, woman-beating tailback stay on his team because he needed him to win football games. Not to give him a chance to mature as a person, but to win football games.

And Nebraska still wasn’t as good as Penn State.

"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 6, 2011 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You dumb sob

YOu think Tom and Nebraska wouldn’t have won the 95 title w/out LP? Really… I think the beat down and the other beatdowns of top 10 teams w/out LP answered that question.

Dummy..

Yeah, it looks like Tom and Nebraska absolutely positively had to have LP in the game otherwise they lose in 95. Really..??

I guess that speaks to the quality of guys like Frazier and Green.

Gosh, I guess PSu and Joe Pa never had a player get in trouble. Rolling my eyes

Not even going to start that..

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

COward

Gotcha didn’t I? Are you mad? Go cry to your mommy.

You really were hoping to get a Frazier at something less than what his full potential was. Classy guy you are.. Guess that tells me all I need to know.. that you know, just refuse to admit it, and especially not to a Cornhusker fan that Tommie at his best dismantles that 94 PSu defense.

Sort of like what he did to 95 Florida. I know you know its true.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

This is Haggard 1 calling Waylon 1, over.

Waylon 1, Operation Poke The Nest successfully completed. Repeat, Operation Poke The Nest successfully completed. Target’s reaction exceeded expectations. Over.

Haggard 1, this is Waylon 1. Well done! RTB. Repeat RTB. Over and out.

"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 6, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Sort of like what he did to Florida..

one year later. I know you know it’s true

94 Nebraska Cornhuskers >>>>>>> 1994 psu

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

With every comment, you simply reinforce the stereotype of Nebraska fans lacking humor or ability to pick up sarcasm.

Now, of course, stereotypes are just stereotypes, but I still respect your ability to help them.

"Hi, I'm Bob Evil!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 6, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I've run across few fans as delusional as Andy P skers94.

It is like it is his personal mission to convince everyone in the world how great the 94 Nebraska team was and how they would never lose to anyone, ever, because you know, they never lost a game. Just because another team out there could use the exact same arguments doesn’t matter though, because they aren’t his precious Nebraska.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 7, 2011 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i will answer my question for you..

dummy..

Through the 1994 season, LP never caused any issues that warranted being suspended from the team, as opposed to 95, when he was suspended!

So, your statement about Tom keeping LP on the team “to win games” certainly doesn’t fly in1994 because he did nothing to deserve a suspension in 1994!!!

Gotcha you f coward!

You lose! You just got owned just like 94 PSU would have been owned by 94 Nebraska.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

teams Penn State played that finished the season with 9 or more wins:

2

teams Nebraska played that finished the season with 9 or more wins: 3

8 or more:
PSU: 4
Nebraska: 3

Losing seasons:
PSU: 4
Nebraska: 4

3 or fewer:
PSU: 3
Nebraska: 3

0 wins:
PSU: 0
Nebraska: 1

Those schedules seem pretty darn comparable to me, so long as you don’t cherrypick a specific cutoff.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 7, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Not one team with double digit (10 or more)

wins on 94 PSU schedule, NU 2.

AS I said before 94 Nebraska schedule is superior to that of 94 PSu.

7 of 12 teams on 94 PSU schedule had records below .500 or not more than 1 game over .500. Pathetic! The other 5 included an Illinnois team 2 games over .500 that PSu struggled terribly to beat, and the rest were nothing more than middling to average 8 or 9 win teams.

1994 PSU wasn’t ever exposed to having to pay a truly elite team in 94.

When 94 PSu can say that they played at min two teams with 10 or more wins, than they have a “compariable schedule” to that of Nebraska.

I had to laugh when I saw your 8 or more comparison. SO, now your lowering the bar of expectations. LOL.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 7, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

unfortunately

Colorado can’t be considered an elite opponent, as they themselves did not beat a single team with double digit wins, with their best win coming against 8-4 Michigan.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 7, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Of

KSU’s 3 losses in 94, one came at the hands of a ONE LOSS Colorado team. The same Colorado team that finished the season in the top 3, with one loss, the same Colorado that lost to Nebraska by 17 playing a backup qb.

Nice logic there. A one loss team beats a three loss team, yet a victory over that three loss team by a common foe is a better win than the 17 point win over the one loss team that finishes season #3. That makes sense! Nice try to try to minimize what Colorado did.

Frankly, I think the two best teams in the country in 94 were Nebraska and Colorado. That Colorado team would have given 94 PSU all they could handle and possibly more. Stewart, Salaam, Fauria, Westbrook, Carruth, Irwin, Naeole and CO would have run around, through, by and over the 94 Kitty Kat defense. CU would have put up huge numbers on that 94 PSu defense.

I could see a game between 94 PSU and 94 Colorado being a real offensive barnburner, the one real difference, Cu actually played a little defense, something foreign to the 94 Kitty Kat brigade,

94 Colorado would leave the heads of that pitiful defense spinng, the same POS Kitty Kat defense that gave up nearly 600 yards of offense and 27 points to RUTGERS!

Colorado hangs 40+ on 94 PSU. 94 Colorado >>>>>> 94 PSU

94 Colorado’s offense likely does to the 94 Pu defense exactly what they did to ND in teh Fiesta Bowl. Makes them look silly. The 94 ND defense was better than that kiity kat defense of 94 PSU.

Yes, a team that finishes the season with one loss, loss coming to eventual National Champion, finishes in top 3 of all polls is elite.

Where is 94 PSU’s elite team?

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 13, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

94 Colorado

and that offense would rack up huge numbers on that 94 Kitty Kat defense. Frankly, the two best teams in 94 were Nebraska and Colorado.

Remember what Colorado did to ND in the Fiesta Bowl? Ditto that if they had played 94 PSu. COlroado actually played some defense.

94 Colorado >>>>>>>>> 94 psu

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 14, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beating a 10-2

Miami team, in the Orange Bowl, on THEIR home field certainly rates heads and shoulders above beating a 9-3 KSU team.

Get real!

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 14, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and here's my main argument with your premise

you can only beat the teams on your schedule, and PSU did so at a better rate than Nebraska did for their own VERY COMPARABLE schedule

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 7, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

oh no!

A 3 point difference statistical while Nebraska played a backup and 3rd team QB for 8 and 9 games in 94!! And playing without a 9 year NFL starter at FS for 10 games!

Gosh, Like I said in earlier statement, only reason that statistic is in favor of PSU in 94, and even than only by a freaking FG, is “unfortunate fate” intervening in Nebraska’s season.

Don’t give me that BS, that “Injuries are part of football, that teams play through them.”

I have seen Nebraska go through entire seasons before largely injury free but in 94, that was not the case. And I know for a fact that 94 PSu was a fairly healthy team for most of the year, “So I guess we can say that injuries were not part of the game for 94 PSU as they were for 94 Nebraska.”

You people are pathetic cowards… it is clear that you would have been banking on getting a less than 100% Frazier, a Nebraska at far less than their real potential if 94 PSU and 94 NU had met on the field. Gosh, isn’t the best test, a true measure of competition the wish to get the opponent at their best? I guess not if you’re PSU. Why is that? Because you all know its true, that a 94 Nebraska team with Frazier at the top of his game, with LP behind that offensive line stomps the shit out of that POS kitty kat defense.

94 Nebraska likely does to the 94 PSU kitty kat brigade exactly what they did to the Florida Gators one year later, that left Steve Spurrier shaking his head.

FYI… The Florida Gators defense of 1995 was light years better, faster, more athletic with SEC athletes than that of the 94 PSU kitty kat brigade.

COWARDS!!

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 13, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, seriously, still going on about the cowards thing?

For the record, I would have put Penn State against 250 100% Fraziers (at the same time). Nebraska still loses because they suck.

And yes, this comment makes as much sense as anything you are saying.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 23, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both PSu and NU in 94

played their share of poor to average teams. But nowhere did PSU get exposed to having to play an elite team. Not once, did PSU expose themselves to a team with double digit wins or fewer than two losses through the course of the year. Therefore the schedule slides to Nebraska because they did play those teams. TWICE

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 7, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong.. gotcha again loser

LP was a perfect teammate, well behaved, went to class, never caused any problems with the team or the police, or had incident with girlfriend UNTIL 1995 after getting back from the Mich St game

Therefore. you PO.., your statement regarding LP, is really neither here or there regarding LP in1994?

Tell me.. For what reason did Tom have to suspend or remove LP from game or team activities in 1994?

What reason??

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

It's been fun.. later and

out. 94 Nebraska would have made mince meat of that pillow soft, middling, kitty kat defense. Then Nebraska’s own pack of wild dawgs come after that PSU offense.

Who let the dawgs out!!?? Whoot Whoot! Collins gonna get hit, hit hard and hit often.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 6, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

yes, Collins did get hit hard, and hit often

in the NFL. How exactly did the “best QB in Nebraska’s history” fare, again? But that’s right, he was SOOO much better.

Meanwhile, I just learned that Montreal has a CFL team called the Alouettes.

by The JuggerNitt on Mar 7, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Tom Osborne is a sleazeball.

The guy’s precious program never could beat Texas with any predictability or regularity, and instead of working with Coach Bo to improve his program to the stature of Texas, he cut and ran to a new conference where he’d never have to lie awake at night with images of Longhorns victoriously dancing in his head. “Oh, the Big Bad Big 12 loves Texas and hates me,” he’d cry. What a putz. I wonder if a decade from now he’ll cry about how the Big Ten favors Iowa, Iowa, Iowa after he and his precious Bo cannot secure a victory. By then, we’ll hear about how the school is more closely aligned with the boulevard of broken dreams that is the Big East.

by MainLion on Mar 7, 2011 12:39 AM EST reply actions  

1982 Penn State

One of the poorest “national champions” ever to be declared or voted a NC. Talk about mythical.

1982 PSU got beatdown by 20 points! Pathetic.

Probably very very few “national champions” Cough! Cough have ever been voted NC in a year in whcih they lost a game by 20 or more points.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 13, 2011 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Joe Knows

From Joe Paterno’s autobiography – By The Book
 
Writing about the 1982 Nebraska – Penn State game, and the catch by McCloskey, Joe said this -
 
Page 223 – “Sure enough, without question, Mike’s foot had come down outside the boundary”.
 
Page 123 – “Sure enough, films later confirmed that Mike’s foot came down an inch or so out of bounds” (should have said two feet or so)

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 13, 2011 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

The truth is

David Taylor.

Less defensible than Maserati Mo.

by ReadingRambler on Mar 19, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nebraska

is in a pretty difficult position and really unique to only Nebraska with regards to other D -1 /FBS schools that have a traditionally strong football team. It has nothing to do with athletics or on the field performance, more to do with geography, population and the almighty TV contracts.

We all know that most of the movement among teams to different conferences is much to do with faces to watch TV, to pump the TV contracts.

Nebraska had to be among the first to move in the conference realignment thing because if they didn’t they would have likely been on the outside looking in from what may have become a non bcs conference.

texas couldn’t be trusted to stay in the Big 12 and it was in the realm of possibility that if ut did leave, that they would take much of the south with them. That would have left Nebraska in a crap conference, that likely would have lost BCS affiliation at some point. Nebraska in a non BCS conference??

Picture this scenario.. Say Nebraska did stay or re-commit to the Big 12, but then texas does what texas does and leaves the conference, taking the south with them. There was indication, that texas real motivation, real intention all along and driving force was to do just that. It came from a solid source, to T.O. that it was texas intention to lure Nebraska back into the texas conference, then leave shortly thereafter, leaving Nebraska without BCS affiliation. texas is just flat dirty as they come. It is engrained in that culture, to cheat, to buy, to do whatever it takes to get a W, whether it is ethical, legal or not. It has been going on for decades upon decades in high school football in that dirty state and ut is no different. I am sure that money has been paid many times over to make sure texas gets the outcomes that they want on the field.

yep, texas had our number the last decade. oh well. It took texas’ greatest decade ever, matched with Nebraska’s worst decade in 50+ years for texas to get that 9-1 record and 6 of those games decided by less than a td.

 The way that texas came into the big 12, acting like a big boardroom bully, throwing their weight around, texas had to win on the field too against Nebraska. And anything close to .500 record with Nebraska wouldn’t cut the mustard. Can you imagine the egg on texas face if they had trouble with Nebraska, even a .500 record, the way they came strutting into this conference. I am quite sure that outcomes have been “arranged” because I have seen way too much.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 13, 2011 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to

know how that qb that helped ut win a NC in 2005 was able to function academically in college when he scored a 6 on the Wunderlic. hmmmm??

10 is literate.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 14, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

This guy is incredible.

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

But he's not gonna get the last word!

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree - he's not gonna get the last word!

My hat don’t hang on the same nail too long
My ears can’t stand to hear the same old song
And I don’t leave the highway long enough
To bog down in the mud
Cause I’ve got ramblin’ fever in my blood

I caught this ramblin’ fever long ago
When I first heard a lonesome whistle blow
If someone said I ever gave a damn
They damn sure told you wrong
I’ve had ramblin’ fever all along

Ramblin’ fever, the kind that can’t be measured by degrees
Ramblin’ fever, there ain’t no kind of cure for my disease

There’s times I’d like to bed down on a sofa
And let some pretty lady rub my back
And spend the early morning drinking coffee
And talking about when I’ll be coming back

Cause I don’t let know no woman tie me down
And I’ll never get too old to get around
I’m gonna die along the highway and rot away
Like some old high-line pole,
Rest this ramblin’ fever in my soul

Ramblin’ fever, the kind that can’t be measured by degrees
Ramblin’ fever, there ain’t no kind of cure for my disease

Pick that guitar, Merle!

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

The last word is...

94 psu played defense like a JV high school team. They never did and to this day still don’t deserve the “nittany lion” label. Hence the “Kitty Kat Brigade”

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 14, 2011 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

WRONG AGAIN, CAPTAIN STUPID POOP YOUR PANTS

Nebraska players do not pick corn. They do not husk corn. To this day they do not pick or husk corn. They do not deserve the “corn husker” label. I call them Communist Woman Beaters because they beat women and because they are communist because they are red.

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

.....

No lions roar for the 94 psu defense, didn’t deserve it. They were SOFT.. hence they get “mmeeeooowww!” more emblematic of their play.

by Andy P skers94 on Mar 14, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

THE TRUTH ABOUT TOM OSBORNE

THE TRUTH ABOUT TOM OSBORNE

THE TRUTH ABOUT

TOM OSBO
RNE

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

BY READINGRAMBLER

ReadingRambler

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

1986: tom Osborne blows up Chernobyl. Untold misery.
1995: ROm Osborne kills Lawrence Phillips, replaces him
with 1963: Jonh Osborne kills John f. Kennedy and Oswald

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

He even autographed one

The quality is not very good but you can still see the untold evil of the Nebraska Communist Woman Beaters because they are communists who beat women.

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

These pictures are red Xs. Osb

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 14, 2011 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

There's no comparison.

Hayden Fry was better than Tom Osborne. Period.

America needs farmers.

by Bad Rambler on Mar 14, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree.

"Yeah! I'll take a walk....over to Kirk Douglas's house!"

by ReadingRambler on Mar 15, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

OSBORNE!

HUH! GOOD GOD, YALL!

WHAT IS HE GOOD FOR?

NOTHIN’!

SAY IT AGAIN!

Less defensible than Maserati Mo.

by ReadingRambler on Mar 19, 2011 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Last word.

"Use their guts to lubricate our single leg attacks!" - Lycurgus

by ReadingRambler on Mar 23, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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