Penn State Faces Temple In The NCAA Tournament
Since it was announced Penn State would take on Temple in the second round of the NCAA Tournament today at 2:10 P.M. on TNT, there's been a lot of talk about the teams' preseason scrimmage at the Bryce Jordan Center in October and how it might offer clues about which team has an advantage in this game. Few if any outside of the two programs got to see that scrimmage, though, so we're left with player and coach speak on what transpired at the event which may or may not be accurate.
What we do know is that when these two teams met last December in Philadelphia, it wasn't pretty. Temple earned a 45-42 victory against the Nittany Lions thanks to suffocating defense and just enough offense in what was an ugly game for both teams offensively.
The Owls limited Talor Battle to eight points on 3-15 shooting and no Penn State starter registered double figures. Only former guard Chris Babb broke that plateau with 11 points off the bench. Jeff Brooks was held to three points on 1-5 shooting while Andrew Jones and David Jackson took only three shots each on the afternoon. The Lions shot only 35% as a team.
Temple had an even more difficult shooting day, hitting at only 30%. The Owls, however, forced 14 turnovers and dominated the offensive boards 14-4, allowing them to take 17 more shots in the game than the Lions, just enough to get them over the top despite their horrible shooting.
While both teams have changed a lot in the last year don't don't expect the pace to. Penn State showed how comfortable it is slowing things down and playing tough defense at the Big Ten Tournament where it limited two opponents under 50 points and 40% shooting to earn a spot on the dance floor. Temple, though it can score with anyone, routinely held A-10 teams in the 50s and 60s all season.
A slug fest of a basketball game may be waiting in the wings with a potential date with No. 2 seed San Diego State on the line in round three.
When Penn State Has The Ball
- Odds are, the Penn State players are going to to be tight playing in their first NCAA Tournament game. Getting some easy buckets down low early on will go a long way in alleviating this problem. The Lions will be less reliant on their jumpers and more confident in attacking the rim if they can have some success before the two teams get too deep into the game.
- The Lions dictated the pace all weekend in Indianapolis, even against No. 1 Ohio State, and that's why they're here today. If Penn State can slow the ball down and force the Owls to deal with its half court defense, the game will go right down to the end.
- Penn State gave Temple way too many possessions in Philadelphia last year. Of course, that was roughly 50 games ago for both teams, but that doesn't mean the Lions should lessen the priority on taking care of the basketball and attacking the offensive glass.
When Temple Has The Ball
- Penn State did a nice job of taking a banged up Kalin Lucas out of his game in the semifinals of the Big Ten Tournament against Michigan State. If the Lions can get 11.6 point per game scorer and recently injured Scootie Randall out of his game, it'll make their jobs a lot easier in defending the rest of the team.
- Temple is No. 109 nationally in rebounding while the Lions are in the 300s. We've seen Penn State beat great rebounding teams like Ohio State and Purdue on the boards, though, so we know the potential to outrebound the Owls is there, it's just a case of manifesting it early and often in this one.
- The Owls aren't great at knocking down the deep shots as they're hitting at only 35% this season. Perimeter defense has been Penn State's Achilles Heel all season, though. Penn State will have to lock down on the arc like it did in Indianapolis to have a chance to win.
Overall
Temple's 14-2 record in a league as respected as the A-10 is nothing to sneeze at, but Penn State hasn't lost to a team outside the Top 10 since Feb. 10 at Michigan State. The Lions have earned the right to be here, too, and they need to play with the confidence they have in the last month if they hope to keep their season going for another couple of days. Temple is good and it has had Penn State's number over the last couple of years, but reacting to that instead of the momentum built up at the Big Ten Tournament is a bad idea. The Lions are good in their own right and, as they've shown, a little swagger and fight makes them dangerous enough to beat anyone. Why not Temple?
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Just do what we do
Don’t turn the ball over, play defense, crash the boards hard, work the offense through Battle, Brooks, and Frazier drive and dishes, in that order. The math says PSU is a better team, if only slightly.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Why this is on TNT?
It needs to be on CBS and it needs to be covered by Billy Packer. I can’t take any basketball seriously if it’s not covered by Billy Packer.
Less defensible than Maserati Mo.
Nobody does a better job with basketball than TNT
You wouldn’t know unless you watch their NBA coverage, but they’re the best
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
They're very good with the NBA.
Easily the best coverage of all the networks. But Barkley basically embarrassed himself on his college analysis this weekend. I think Harlan, Reggie and Bonner will be good today, but who knows, really? I figured Nantz and Kellogg would at least be mediocre, but they were pathetically awful.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Mar 17, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Nantz is just boring.
Kellogg is pathetically awful just by himself. I’m not how to describe the result when one combines boring with pathetically awful but I think it’s beyond pathetically awful.
Seriously, I have a question: can anyone name a single good thing about Clark Kellogg as an announcer?
Less defensible than Maserati Mo.
by ReadingRambler on Mar 17, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope
He was fine in the studio, this just isn’t the right job for him. I wouldn’t describe Nantz as boring, I think he just comes off that way because the person he is paired with brings nothing to the table.
I like the idea of Nantz and Rafftery, I think Bill could play off well with the straight man Nantz. And every now and then Nantz does say some insightful stuff.
I honestly disagree. Kellogg kept trying to convince the audience that
PSU was essentially a long shot dance hopeful. Everyone and their mother knew they were in after the MSU win, and based on seeding it seems clear that we weren’t really even close to the bubble. We were probably at least in the First Four after the Wisconsin game. That they kept harping on it is what bugs me. He would’ve made those same comments in the studio.
Nantz was boring, but it was beyond that. I felt like both he and Kellogg were woefully underprepared for the Big Ten semi-finals. They knew virtually nothing about our team except for Talor Battle and disregarded them entirely. They don’t know how strength of schedule is calculated and seem incredbly confused over the RPI. For two guys who pride themselves on being professionals, especially Nantz who seems to call every major sporting event these days, that was pathetic. These our the announcers for the Final Four? I’m insulted.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Mar 17, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for articulating my feelings perfectly
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Kellogg was bad.
Kerr was much worse.
Adam
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by Adam Bittner on Mar 17, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to say
I can’t think of any non-Big Ten games I’ve watched him call recently. When he calls B1G games, he just can’t hide his irrational OSU homerism.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Oh, stop being such a nice guy.
There’s nothing hard to say about it.
Less defensible than Maserati Mo.
by ReadingRambler on Mar 17, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
He can only ruin one game at a time?
WE'RE DANCIN!!!
by bigs26 on Mar 17, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If he's ruining one game, he can't ruin another.
Thank heavens.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Mar 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Barkley always embarrasses himself,
that is part of the reason why TNT is so great.
WE'RE DANCIN!!!
People actually watch the NBA?
Less defensible than Maserati Mo.
by ReadingRambler on Mar 17, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I love the NBA
As Dave Barry once put it (I don’t have the exact quote, but close), “It’s the nether regions of human athleticism on full display”
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
They travel too much and the refs are from the WWE.
It’s too hard for me to take it seriously.
Less defensible than Maserati Mo.
by ReadingRambler on Mar 17, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Imagine how much money he'd make at the NBA.
But, seriously, the travelling is what kills it. Although, of course, at all levels, it’s ok to take a few steps if you have an OMG AMAZING dunk.
Less defensible than Maserati Mo.
by ReadingRambler on Mar 17, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Not saying you're wrong, just that
the NFL and NHL deserve every bit the comparison to the WWE that the NBA does. The NBA deserves it. I’ll agree, it’s just that the NFL and NHL do, too.
MLB does not, because no officiating changes could convert baseball players into athletes who have to think on their feet or make that game entertaining
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
That MLB statement is pretty wrong.
But it’s pointless to argue. We disagree.
by OctaShields on Mar 17, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
MLB and Nascar
Are two sports that you either love or hate, and there is no convincing people either way, so it’s best just to let it go.
That said, go Phils.
I can't convince anyone that it's exciting
But I could argue the “having to think on their feet” point. If you’ve ever played, you know that there’s a ton of discretion and quickly-made on-your-feet decisions on defense and in baserunning.
Also, there are LIGHTNING quick decisions made on EVERY pitch by the batter. They get a fraction of a second to recognize 1. what pitch is coming towards you 2. where will it be located, 3. is it a ball or a strike, 4. should you swing at it, 5. what kind of swing should you make (e.g. try to crush it, try to square it up and hit it back up the middle, try to volley it the opposite way, try to foul it off and wait for a better pitch, etc.).
by OctaShields on Mar 17, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I am doing this from memory, so if anyone recalls the study please correct me.
I believe it was a Yale physicist who studied the physics of hitting a fastball at 90mph+. His conclusion was that it should be scientifically impossible for it to be anything more than random. He looked at the data and concluded that MLB’s best hitters are superhuman freaks of nature.
'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno
by PSUinBOSSton on Mar 17, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we needed that study
to conclude that he is definintely not human.
'We've got too many people analyzing everything and sometimes they don't know what they're talking about.' -Joseph Vincent Paterno
by PSUinBOSSton on Mar 17, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
CK
I’m actually suprised you don’t like baseball. With your statistical analysis and love of numbers, I figured fantasy baseball would be the perfect activity for you. I had you pegged wrong there for sure.
Baseball
The stats and record keeping have been nothing short of fantastic for nearly a century. That, and it’s been played at an extremely high level for over 50 years. One can fairly compare players from the 60s and 70s with today’s players. Basketball, football, and chess (the sports I follow) can say none of those things.
At both the college and pro level, they’ve all managed to be tainted from time to time, whether it’s been through gambling scandals, steroids, segregation and other political BS, or undue compensation. It’s not that I think baseball is morally inferior to the others.
My words are harder than what baseball deserves, especially for NL pitchers. The coordination and strength required to hit a baseball in play and the endurance required to pitch a season of baseball are very, very impressive.
Does it require the strength, speed, or cardiovascular fitness of football or basketball? No. Does it require the ridiculous focus and nervous system control of chess? No. But like both golf and NASCAR (the only sport in league with chess when it comes to nervous system control), it’s a great game with great fans. I’m just not one of them.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Do you read any basbeall analytics for ideas?
Or just don’t care since you are not a fan of the sport. I honestly think that’s what makes it interesting to me.
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Mar 17, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
The Brandon Stokely TD last year for Denver
was the best call ever. He’s literally just screaming at the top of his lungs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I74BG0YFKUc
by OctaShields on Mar 17, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know who Raftery is paired with this year?
I was hoping for CBS just to hear ‘Onions!’ after a Battle falling away-last second on the shot clock-no chance…Oops it went in three ball.
I get the paper. I go to the bathroom. I take the paper in there and I scan it. I look at it. The first thing I do is look at who died. All right. Second thing I look at are headlines. Something that says, "Paterno is the Greatest," I read it. -JVP
by wek5000lion09 on Mar 17, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Verne and Lesley Visser.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Mar 17, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know where you're getting your rebounding numbers, fooge
but Penn State is a respectable rebounding team. PSU is very average at getting offensive rebounds: #173 nationally in OReb%. At preventing opponents from getting offensive rebounds, PSU is a very solid if not spectacular #81 nationally. Once you consider that PSU played OSU’s big men 3 times, Purdue’s twice, Michigan State’s 3 times, Minnesota’s twice, and Illinois’ twice, so over 1/3 of the games have been against guys who are very tall (Minnesota, Illinois), wide and athletic (Michigan State), or just all around good (OSU, Purdue), the numbers start to look even better. Awesome? No, but very respectable.
Temple’s numbers aren’t bad, either, but they aren’t significantly better, especially considering the schedule. Even more so when one realizes how injured Temple’s front court is.
I've got the brains. You've got the looks. Let's make lots of money.
Straight off ESPN
I agree, the stats don’t quite do their efficiency justice. PSU grabs less rebounds per game, but that’s because there are less possessions and less misses to be grabbed so…
Adam
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by Adam Bittner on Mar 17, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Good write up
and you’re doing a good job with all the posts on the team. That said, there are many better places to get stats that tell a better story of PSU’s real talent level then tWWL.
It's even possible that Jim Tressel drinks out of the toilet
Good luck guys!
I’ve been saying for months that I don’t care if PSU loses by 50 points if they actually make it to the tournament, as long as they get there. And I still feel that way although I hope they do well. After all of the close games and stress about whether they would have a chance or if they’ve done enough, it’s nice to have a clean slate and start a new “season”.
From this point on, we could be seeing the last game in a PSU uniform for Battle and the rest of the seniors. They’ve given us a lot of great memories and I’m looking forward to seeing them perform now that they’ve achieved their goal. Let’s go PSU!
by mundyscorner99 on Mar 17, 2011 11:39 AM EDT reply actions
Everything from here on out is gravy for me
but you know the guys don’t feel that way. They’re in it to make a run. Betting against Talor Battle is unwise. I’m truly surprised that ESPN has basically disregarded us. The way they love the highlight reel, you’d imagine that one of the most clutch players in college basketball would receive their undivided attention.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Mar 17, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
No one I’ve seen, even from the B1G network, has us picked to win this game. We could definitely lose, but we definitely have a legitimate shot.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Mar 17, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I've seen a few ppl pick us. Digger Phelps and a blogger on BTN both did.
It’s going to be a tough game.
"I don’t spend a lot of time dwelling on the negative. I believe that having a good, peaceful mind is the basic premise for a good life."
by Adam Collyer on Mar 17, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

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