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Know Your Nittany Lions: Women's Gymnastics, Part 2

Last time, I discussed the sport a bit and the major role players on the Penn State team. This round, I'll finish off the remaining team members and provide some insight as to what you can expect for the NCAA Regionals at Alabama this weekend.

Event Specialists: (Girls who are usually used specifically for one event.)

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The third regularly used freshman, Kristin Blades is used only on the vault for now. And so far this season, she has done a great job of putting up good scores consistently. Averaging just over 9.80 this season, Kristin is a big part in making sure Penn State hits their 49.0 on vault. (Also, she looks far too much like Sharaya Musser at times. Seriously, it took way too much time trying to make sure I was picking out the right girl for these pictures.)

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On the uneven bars, junior Alex Stine has become a strong scorer on an otherwise difficult apparatus. While not as high-scoring as Natalie Ettl, Alex puts up solid scores consistently to help the team be one of the best bars teams in the nation. Her season average of 9.820 helps the team get to the 49.000 level, and her season high of 9.85 means that she's consistently hitting solid routines.

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The Alternates: (The girls here are the unlucky victims of injuries. Otherwise, they'd be easily inserted into the lineup at any moment.)

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Pictured from left to right: Susan Martens, Heather McElwee, Stephanie Brock

Senior Heather McElwee is one of the first alternates on floor and beam, should something come up the day of a meet. She is very talented, but has been slowed by a nagging ankle injury. She's been a great asset to the team these past 4 years, and hopefully she can help the team make their way to the Top 12 and even Super Six at Nationals.

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Earlier in the season, freshman Kassidy Stauder was a regular in the lineup, competing regularly on beam and floor, and occasionally rotating between vault and floor. Unfortunately, an ankle injury took her out of the lineup for a bit, and she just hasn't returned to full form just yet. But if the early portion of the season is any indication, she'll be a great asset to the team for years to come.

Hailing from an area very close to my original stomping grounds in New Jersey, Stephanie Brock's freshman year followed a very similar track to that of Kassidy Stauder. After opening the season on a rotation of a few different events, a scary fall on the uneven bars has sidelined Stephanie for the rest of the season. Thankfully, the injury was not serious, and she should be back in form for next season. And like Stauder, Brock should be a big contributor for years to come.

The 14th member of the team (but #1 in our hearts) is sophomore Susan Martens. A quiet freshman campaign lead into a sophomore season that started with an ankle injury that has set her behind her teammates for the year. She's a talented gymnast from Arizona, and hopefully next year she can begin to show the talent she has brought to Penn State. (And yes, her hard luck thus far combined with her naming The Beatles as her 'favorite entertainer' makes her one of my favorites.)

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One last pic for the road...

NCAA Regional Expectations: Before getting into the analysis of the next meet, I wanted to go over the rotation system of these sort of events. Since there are 4 events and 6 teams, it's obvious that 2 teams are going to have to sit on each rotation. To make it easy, look at the rotations as two circles - an outer circle that includes the 6 teams, and an inner circle that involves the 4 events and 2 byes. The inner circle remains fixed, while the teams in the outer circle rotate from one event (or bye) to the next, keeping the same order. The NCAA has released the list of teams at each of the regionals and pdf files for the rotation at each regional. The seedings were determined mostly by snaking through the top 36 ranked teams (found here, among other detailed college gymnastics stats), with some liberties taken due to site locations. The top two teams from each regional meet will move onto the NCAA Championships (April 15-17).

So lets use the Alabama regional to go through the rotation. Penn State will start on the balance beam, which means they go from the beam (Rotation 1), to a bye (2), to the floor (3), to the vault (4), to the second bye (5), and end on the bars (6). The other teams will follow this same rotation just in a different order depending on where they start. The pdf on the NCAA site linked above shows exactly where the teams in the rotation order. In this case, Illinois is one rotation ahead of Penn State. So whatever event (or bye) the Illini are finishing up, the Nittany Lions will be moving to on the next rotation.

Also, you'll notice at times a competitor or two from random teams not at the regional being added to an event. Gymnastics rewards both teams and individuals, so if a gymnast has proven to be one of the top scorers on an event (or events), but their team was not strong enough to make the top 36, then the individual is invited to the regionals. This allows them the chance to qualify for to compete for an individual event championship at the NCAA Championships in a couple weeks.

As for the meet itself, I'll start with just looking at Penn State. Again, the girls will start on the balance beam, which is one of their weaker events. While it has their lowest average score for the season, they are still ranked 12th in the nation, so their mediocre is still better than most teams' best. From there, things look up, as Penn State will move to the high-scoring floor exercise (average score is 9th in the nation) and vault (average score is 22nd). These two end up being higher scoring than beam and bars because there are fewer chances for major deductions, and the skills don't have as many technically demanding components. That's not to say that they're easier, but they lend themselves to higher scores. After vault, the girls have the second bye before finishing on the uneven bars. Two huge positives from this. First, they end on an event, which means they'll have a better idea of what they'll need to score to move to the Championships. Second, it's the best event for the girls, as it has the highest average score on the season (49.215) and highest national ranking (8th). Outside of ending on floor, it's probably the most ideal rotation for this team.

As for the competition, Alabama is ranked #2 and they should run away with this thing. They're home, they're freaking talented, and they'll be focused on sending a message, especially to #1 Florida. The bottom three teams - Auburn, Central Michigan, and Kentucky - are talented, but no where near the top 3. In fact, the season high scores for those three teams are all below Penn State's season average. The team to watch, then, is Illinois. Early in the season, Penn State finished just behind Illinois at a meet with Michigan. At the Big Ten's, Penn State finished ahead of Illinois by 0.300 points - a decently-sized margin at this level. Illinois' rotation is one ahead of Penn State, so except for beam, the Lions will know what they need to hit to stay ahead of the Illini. Penn State should finish in second and move to the NCAA Championships. And depending on how well they perform, there is always the possibility they make a run at Alabama for the win.

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Thanks again!

You’re hard work did not go unnoticed!!

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Mar 31, 2011 8:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

My pleasure

I really did enjoy writing these up (not just because I got to look at tons of pictures). And after seeing the other story with nearly 500 posts with about 90% of it being our normal sidetracking, I’m not surprised that there weren’t more comments here. :)

Gus, don't be a gooey chocolate chip cookie.

by IcersGuy on Apr 1, 2011 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice job

All the PSU winter sports are great entertainment (at a reasonable ticket price). Their enthusiam during the meets is refreshing.

"What we've got here is a failure to communicate" Cool Hand Luke

by OlderBudweiser on Mar 31, 2011 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm only sad that I didn't discover most of these sports until my senior year

There really are a number of excellent teams at Penn State – exciting to watch, and a great majority of them are free for students. Hopefully these sorts of posts help push current students into checking out some of the free, high-quality entertainment they might otherwise be missing.

Gus, don't be a gooey chocolate chip cookie.

by IcersGuy on Apr 1, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been to almost every type of event except gymnastics.

Where are these meets? Maybe I’ll check into it one of these days.

Publicity is like poison; it doesn't hurt unless you swallow it.
Joe Paterno

by tlrpsu on Apr 1, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec Hall

Also, parking is free in the garage and surface lot east of the Nittany Lion Inn. My only complaint about Rec Hall is the Concession offerings are a nutritionist’s nightmare. Sitting amongs the wrestlers in the stands during the Nittany Lion Open, I overheard several complaints about the junk food (the Inn has decent food in the Whiskers Lounge) but PSU really ought to do a better job with providing healthy snack alternatives (considering their Hotel management interests). I know space is limited, but with a little effort it is doable.

"What we've got here is a failure to communicate" Cool Hand Luke

by OlderBudweiser on Apr 1, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard this a few times, now and agree

Time to Step Up: Rec Hall Concessions.

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"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gymnasts are such ridiculous athletes

Combination of strength, flexibility and wicked skills is just awe-inspiring.

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"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Injuries

It’s amazing how many male and female gymnasts compete with bandages and tape wraps on their wrists, knees, ankles and even shoullders. And these are the athletes who are well enough to compete. Sometimes they re-injure themselves during warm-ups and just stretch the injury and tough it out. I wonder what long term effects this has on their bodies.

"What we've got here is a failure to communicate" Cool Hand Luke

by OlderBudweiser on Apr 1, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's a really good point

It’s a pretty dangerous sport, in almost all disciplines. There’s impact at almost every turn. I’m still friends with a couple girls from the class behind me who were gymnasts (including one who mysteriously destroyed the stereotype of Cankles; she had huge ones but remains very slender in the torso; made for a sick/hilarious pregnant mother of twins—like two basketballs jutting out of her tummy), and they both seem healthy so far. But, they’re also not yet forty and they’ve both stayed in great shape with exercise through the years.

Nadia Comaneci looks like she’s moving around ok, but we’ll have to check back in on her in another 20 years to see what effect all the work she’s had done will have had:

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"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd pay to see her perform her floor routine now!

"What we've got here is a failure to communicate" Cool Hand Luke

by OlderBudweiser on Apr 1, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would need one of those extra wide wrestling mat mops to clean up the carnage

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is it with Jtot and twins?
I’m still friends with a couple girls from the class behind me who were gymnasts (including one who mysteriously destroyed the stereotype of Cankles; she had huge ones but remains very slender in the torso; made for a sick/hilarious pregnant mother of twins—like two basketballs jutting out of her tummy), and they both seem healthy so far

"I was enough to have God on my side -- and Joe. He gave me that chance." - Andrew Quarless
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/columns/story?columnist=cimini_rich&id=6088465

by bconway6 on Apr 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, she's a good friend, one of the closest friends I have who had already had twins

Good counsel along the way. But damn, she looked like a freakin caricature when she was carrying them. Or an alien.

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stress and hairline fractures
Compressed discs (the impact of the tumbling)
Dislocated joints

and any and all after effects of anorexia and bulimia (not that any of these girls have it, but it has been well documented in elite level gymnasts)

Mary Lou Retton and Nadia both trained with Bella and Marta Karolyi, and have talked about eating an apple a day. That is it.

I read the book referenced in the quote below

In, “Little Girls in Pretty Boxes”, Joan Ryan exposes the truth behind the scenes of these elite female athletes. Ryan quotes gymnastics trainer, Jack Rockwell, “I remember a top American official saying to Mary Lou Retton a year after the (1984) Olympics, ‘You know, if I could, I’d take half a point off just because of that fat hanging off of your butt.’” These girls must not let their bodies grow up and develop female curves, menarche and post pubescent body fat. In other words, in these sports, to become a woman means your elite career is over. “Because they excel at such a young age, girls in these sports are unlike other elite athletes. They are world champions before they can drive.”

My coach is better than your coach

by letsgopsu on Apr 1, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That doesn't apply to the college sport

I watched the B10 championships, and these women (not girls) are friggin stacked. There are a few around the league that fit the graceful, twig-woman stereotype, but a lot of the better athletes are built for power (though still quite graceful!). Muscles and muscles and muscles. I was amazed at what those women can do, and am sure that any one of them could kick my ass in a heartbeat.

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Apr 1, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mary Lou Retton was very muscular. Bella wanted her thinner

hence the extreme diet, but here genes would not have it

My coach is better than your coach

by letsgopsu on Apr 1, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa!

Heavy stuff, it sounds, that book.

jtothetweet
"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

World Class Gymnastics

is beautiful on the outside, ugly on the inside. The crap most of those girls are forced through for maybe one chance at a gold medal leans heavily on the crazy side. No hunk of metal at 16 years old is worth lifelong physical changes/deformations.

Gus, don't be a gooey chocolate chip cookie.

by IcersGuy on Apr 1, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember reading how some east bloc teams in the 70’s and 90’s used to give drugs to the girls so they would never get periods and would be slower to move out of puberty.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Apr 1, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn red commie bastards!

Always wanting to cheat! Sort of like Ohio State, huh?

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Apr 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably sad but true

My coach is better than your coach

by letsgopsu on Apr 1, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaaannnnnnnd, menstruation

One more usually taboo subject checked off the BSD list of discussions.

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"Cats been getting hookups on tatts since back in '01". - former buckeye Antonio Pittman

by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but that's so passe

Wars are well-covered here at BSD. Menstruation, not as much.

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by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dare to dare?

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Apr 1, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

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by jtothep on Apr 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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My coach is better than your coach

by letsgopsu on Apr 1, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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