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Brandon Ware Reportedly Done At Penn State

Defensive lineman Brandon Ware has spent much of his Penn State career trying to fight his way out of Joe Paterno's doghouse thanks to weight and academic issues. This past spring practice, many felt he was turning the corner and poised to have a breakout 2011 season beginning in September, but it seems his old demons have come back to haunt him once again, and this time, as Sean Fitz of Lions 247 reports, he could be done as a Nittany Lion.

Following the spring semester, Ware was deemed academically ineligible. Due to a new NCAA rule, he would have to sit out the entire 2011 season should he choose to remain at Penn State. Sources say he will likely seek a transfer with the aid of the Nittany Lions staff.

First and foremost, this is devastating news for Ware, and hard to hear for those who have followed his struggles at Penn State. Joe Paterno spoke glowingly about him in the spring, and he seemed to be the player the 84-year old was most excited to see on the field in 2011. Fans who have watched him grow will certainly hate to hear this.

The news is also very damaging from a team perspective. Already thin at defensive line, Penn State was counting on Ware to contribute. With him gone the Lions will be counting on the recovering Jack Crawford and Eric Latimore even more as well as a number of inexperienced guys on the line.

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Are we really going to miss

what we never had anyways? Ware has yet to contribute in his time at PSU.

I rather have that ship for a kid who was dedicated to succeed both academicallly and athletically.

I think we will be fine with Still, Hill, Terry, Hailes and Jones at DT. Maybe this also opens the door for a young guy like Zettel to come in and contribute as a true freshmen.

Eventhough the loss of Massaro at DE will hurt, I believe guys like Crawford and Lattimore(if both are healthy),Stanley, Olaniyian, and Baublitz, plus true freshmen Barnes and Oakman will do fine at DE.

I got Tiger Blood running through my veins!

by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, aside from the D-Line depth (or lack thereof) I don't see this as a major loss.

I always got the impression that Ware had no interest in football whatsoever and only played because he felt obligated to take some sort of advantage of his enormous size. It’s like his middle school coach saw how big he was, forced him to play and Ware just didn’t have the talent, nor the ambition to continue, he just had the size and in order to be successful, you need more than just 300 pounds underneath the pads. No loss here.
/this is entirely based off of assumption, I have no insider knowledge whatsoever

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by Bob Sacamano on May 18, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sucks for him, although it was completely within his control to make sure he was academically eligible.

by Ben16 on May 17, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad to see. Hope he can get his act together and play elsewhere.

by gnuf on May 17, 2011 8:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Send him to Baylor

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by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think he'd have to transfer

to a FCS school. Otherwise, what’s the point of the eligibility penalty?

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on May 17, 2011 8:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know

It was just a joke, ala Phil Taylor

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by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed at this!

I AM PHIL DAVISON AND I WILL NOT APOLOGIZE FOR MY TONE TONIGHT

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on May 17, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. I just don't get it. These guys are given every chance to succeed academically and are basically forced to attend class

Obviously he was never PSU academic material, I really don’t get it…

Honestly…I partied 4-6 days a week, knew/attended every happy hour, rarely attended class and graduated in 4 years

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by SweepTheLeg on May 17, 2011 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah man, I got my swerve on at Players....well not really.

Foggy memory but I think this was about right of my bar tour.

Monday – Sports Cafe, $2.00 yards (everyday)
Tues – Brewery or Den
Wed – Chili’s, Allen Street Grill, Shandy Gaff, and then stumbled to Cafe or Sports Cafe
Blackout Thursday – Dark Horse (multiple Tonto’s, wings, etc) then dollar pints at Allen Street
Friday – Cafe 210
Sat – Home drinking and then any bar or party

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by SweepTheLeg on May 17, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, Dark Horse Thursdays.

The night that dreams were made of.

I kind hated the Allen Street Grille for drinks though. Were the dollar pints the only draw?

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by Adam Collyer on May 17, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that the one man band that plays there?

Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.

by Kyle_Martin on May 17, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that was Bill

I put some bread in his jar back in the day.

by psdeuce on May 18, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Mon – Card games
Tues – Den
Wed – Chili’s(sometimes), G-Man
Thurs – Players
Fri – House Parties
Sat – Wherever the night took me

Was the Gaff on tues? I can’t remember. Also, where did JR and Sharon play? Forgot the name of the bar(right down the street from G-Man)

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by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yessss! Thanks

couldn’t for the life of me remember it. They had that Monkey Bong Water drink right?

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by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

the monkey boy!

Although, I must admit . . . the saloon was a little too “scene” for me.

by psdeuce on May 17, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just went to hear JR and Sharon

and watch them make out to their mic’s

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by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, the Saloon

Had the Monkey Boy pitchers.

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on May 17, 2011 8:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, but you can only

Get two of those before they cut you off.

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by Paige2PSU on May 17, 2011 8:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know

such BS

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by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny how your only allowed 1 Sin

yet you could go to the Skeller and drink a case of Rock ponies

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by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!

…the small bottles!

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on May 17, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Players had their little sig drink too

but I forgot the name of it

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by Tiller56 on May 17, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gaff on Thursday's was my favorite

Dollar High Life pitchers and Woo-Woo shots. They ended that fall of my senior year though.

Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.

by Kyle_Martin on May 17, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody reads the fanshots!

Lol!

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by Paige2PSU on May 17, 2011 8:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This does suck...

my over/under bet was going to be on the average number of times per day he uses some version of the N word on his twitter feed.

7

Over

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by SarcasmJam on May 17, 2011 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

So, 1 in every 6,000 tweets for

the o/u.

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by PSUinBOSSton on May 17, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not an expert at this,

but I was trying to set the o/u at 7 a day and bet the over.

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by SarcasmJam on May 17, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's more like

7 an hour!

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by Paige2PSU on May 17, 2011 8:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I understand.

I was converting your per day o/u to a per tweet o/u.

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by PSUinBOSSton on May 17, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, we still have one of the deepest rotations at defensive tackle in the nation!

The horror!

But really, with him out, & Hailes most likely out, it’s somewhat unnerving if another guy goes down. But we can still roll in 4 guys @ DT and have talent.

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on May 17, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

What's the story now on Evan Hailes?

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on May 17, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone have a link?

The first I heard about this was today.

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by Paige2PSU on May 17, 2011 9:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

RUTS reminded me of this

Hailes had blood clots in his lungs and calf, and was put on blood thinner. Hailes thinks he’ll be back, but what player doesn’t? I don’t have any personal insight, I’m fortunate to never need those

http://pennstate.247sports.com/Board/18/Evan-Hailes-1914435/1

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on May 17, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is awful

hope he recovers fast and in full!

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by letsgopsu on May 17, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea he's one of my favorites

Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.

by Kyle_Martin on May 17, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

How could he not be

After the commitment video and Lift for Life sponsorship?

BTW, I’ve been thinking of opening a fanpost about who our Lift for Life project should be this year. Should I wait awhile though?

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by Paige2PSU on May 18, 2011 12:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh ouch

sounds like a bad situation. Get well soon…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 18, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

You realize we're talking about Brandon Ware here, right?

He hasn’t exactly been, you know, good, and we’re talking about him as a big loss. I’ll believe in this line when I see it, but from my perspective, it’s falling apart. I’m not really feeling good about it.

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by Adam Bittner on May 18, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, anything with him is "big".

Actually, I agree with you. He’s been a non-factor for 2 or 3 years now. And now he’s gone….so what? I haven’t liked him much since reading the kinds of things he puts out on twitter. I figured a guy like that would eventually Ware out his welcome.

I’m interested in the guys who want to be here and want to make the committment to be winners. As for Ware, well…I hope he learns from his mistakes.

by J Breezy on May 18, 2011 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's becoming a problem.

Options:

a) Give James Terry the bulk of Ware’s potential snaps.
b) Move DaQuan Jones back inside where he probably belongs.

I don’t feel bad for Ware one bit. This should’ve been done years ago.

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by Run Up The Score on May 18, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I def think Jones goes back inside

we were short at DE in the spring due to the injury to Massaro, and the precaution being taken with both Crawford and Lattimore.

Expect to see Jones back at DT in the fall.

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by Tiller56 on May 18, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that anyone asked, I feel obligated to point out that I think this post is written well and concisely; excellent job.

To distract the crowd, I submit unused audio commentary of the movie The Fellowship Of The Ring (PLATINUM SERIES EXTENDED EDITION) by Noam Chomsky and Howard Zinn, hosted graciously by McSweeney’s, and most importantly not intended to incite a political flame war regarding the sovereignty of Israel.

by gumbercules on May 17, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Huh?

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by Paige2PSU on May 17, 2011 9:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

gumbercules, who might be one of my nominations to contend for a title fight against derry for the most interesting man on BSD belt, once took a not-too-subtle jab at fugi’s writing, and here gives credit where he felt it was due.

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by jtothep on May 18, 2011 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truth

Also not just one jab. As a side note, I like you too buddy. Is a nethug appropriate here? Have I ruined the moment by suggesting such? Should I have let it occur naturally? Having weirded myself out, I am going to get in my car and drive to work.

by gumbercules on May 18, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was actually referring to his distract the crowd comment!

That’s why I said, “huh?”

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by Paige2PSU on May 18, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awww yeah that was a great movie

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on May 17, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howard Zinn

Cool and laid back dude. Still rides his bike everywhere.

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by PSUinBOSSton on May 17, 2011 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops,

not still, but in his last years. Wow, terrible.

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by PSUinBOSSton on May 17, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t care one rip about him if he had only not called himself a historian.

Also, don’t tell anyone at BHGP about this or I’ll get in another fight about this crap.

"The more I say, the more I have to take back." - Norm Parker, revised

by ReadingRambler on May 17, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds like a challenge...

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on May 18, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oddly enough...

… I am currently reading LOTR and am near the end (ring was just dropped in Mount Doom), and couldn’t help but notice several flaws in their arguments, things twisted from their actual representation. It’s been a while since I watched the movies so perhaps they are different there.

Anyway, interesting take, always fun to read alternative viewpoints on popular stories.

by ChillBillinChina on May 18, 2011 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure if this comment is serious or not, but that “alternative commentary” was a parody of Chomsky and Zinn, and a pretty good one at that.

"The more I say, the more I have to take back." - Norm Parker, revised

by ReadingRambler on May 18, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know much about Zinn

But Chomsky has one of the most severe fact selection biases in the history of man, and is sophisticated enough that debating the points with him is an exercise in futility. The Penn State version of this would be a Youtube search for “Anthony Morelli highlights”.

by gumbercules on May 18, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Zinn just bothered me because he too often fit the facts around his narratives.

Other than that, meh. And he certainly wasn’t an awful guy.

As for Chomsky, yeah, some guy was able to compile a list of the Top 200 Chomsky lies. A few were borderline, but most were simply pathetic.

"The more I say, the more I have to take back." - Norm Parker, revised

by ReadingRambler on May 18, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think my favorite Chomsky statement was when he claimed the British and Americans somehow “supported” the Nazis before World War 2 while the Soviets didn’t do anything of the such and were left to bear almost all of the fighting on their own.

And it’s like, dude, really, don’t you even know how to use Wikipedia?

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by ReadingRambler on May 18, 2011 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the part of him that most people have trouble resolving

is that he has done really fundamental research in linguistics and is an unquestionable genius in his technical field.

by gumbercules on May 18, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

did you see them sing Chocolate Rain on Tosh? I lol'd

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by letsgopsu on May 18, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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