Reaction To Jim Tressel's Resignation
The Vest might be gone, but former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel leaves behind thousands of Buckeye fans pondering what's next for their program after his resignation on Monday. Now that the news has had time to sink it, let's take a spin around the Ohio State blogosphere to hear what folks are saying about the latest bad thing to happen to their program.
Along the Olentangy gets its Sufi on.
Tressel departs Ohio State not as a liar; not as a manipulator and certainly not as a cheater. He leaves a man that cared for people--especially his players--and it's being that man that got him into trouble. He was a man that is larger than life, yet always smaller than the company he kept.
However, as easy as it might be to characterize the man with effusive praise and note how difficult replacing him will ultimately be, it's neither the time nor the place for such adoration or resignation to the eulogy of Ohio State football.
After all, as Tressel would be the first to say, the program is not about one individual or one coach. While the hurt and disappointment will resonate and linger for many months, the program will move forward. This too shall pass.
Ramzy at Eleven Warriors wonders why Ray Small didn't let Jim Tressel help him like he helped his other players.
This is a fact: Tressel ran a program that preached virtue, public service and self-reliance. Most of his players bought into it. Some of his players abused the hell out of it; players that he took a chance on against what should have been his better judgment. Toxic, lost causes like Ray Small, whom Tressel repeatedly tried for years to wake up and change for the better even though he contributed virtually nothing to Ohio State's gaudy win total during his four years in Columbus.
Small, a championship simpleton, still does not seem to realize that Tressel was out to help him for all of those years. If Small hadn't been sleeping at study tables of flunking out of survey courses at Ohio State while he pretended to be a college student he would have been decapitating rabbits behind a barn in a Steinbeck novel. He was beyond help. Tressel did not care. He probably still thinks he can help him.
Ian from Inside The Shoe was hoping for more in the Sports Illustrated piece on Tressel.
What we all found was...well, nothing. The only big deal would be the fact that 9 other players were involved with the Tattoo guy, Rife. Those players were: defensive back C.J. Barnett, linebacker Dorian Bell, running back Jaamal Berry, running back Bo DeLande, defensive back Zach Domicone, linebacker Storm Klein, linebacker Etienne Sabino, defensive tackle John Simon and defensive end Nathan Williams.
It doesn't help Sports Illustrated's cause when more than half the article that was written, didn't even pertain to the fact of Tressel in his OSU era. Most of it was during his time at Youngstown State. Really? I mean, give me a break. The fact that they say they've "dug up" some pretty serious stuff is just looking plain stupid right now.
Andrew from Waiting For Next Year doesn't think compliance is anything a coach should be worried about.
It’s a shame that Jim Tressel didn’t do the right thing. A lot will be said and written today and in the coming weeks about everything that went on at Ohio State, but at the end of the day, the minute Jim Tressel received that email from Christopher Cicero, he should have done the right thing and passed the information on to OSU’s compliance office.
When this story is written it’s going to be overlooked that compliance is not the job of a head coach. There are highly trained, highly educated compliance officials hired by the University whose job it is to
overlookoversee (ed. note: horrible slip up there) everything and make sure these kind of overarching problems don’t exist.Many will tell you that Tressel is at fault because he didn’t monitor the program, but a big part of the reason Tressel got himself into so much trouble was precisely because he tried to act as a compliance official on his own. Rather than letting the experts handle it, he decided to deal with it himself.
Finally, Larry Burton of the Bleacher Report whacks Tressel.
I would love to say that Tressel fell on the sword to save the school and salvage a portion of his reputation, but that day passed long ago. It passed when he tried to serve a paltry two-game suspension as his penance, then was shamed into accepting the same five-game suspension as his players accepted.
No, Tressel didn't resign to attempt to save the school—he waited until his agent, lawyers and entourage made sure he'd still leave with some cash from his contract, assurances that the school would cover his legal fees, which could be substantial, and other things.
Tressel didn't attempt to save the school with this resignation, that day had passed. He was only attempting to save his own butt again and save some cash.
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So according to the guys at Along the Olentangy Tressel was just caring for people so it is okay?
Well using that logic Pablo Escobar is a good guy because he cared for the poor people in his native Columbia. These tOSU fans are making this whole situation even more humorous than it was already.
Oh BTW thought you would like this pic. 
When in doubt, punt!
- John Heisman
We need a picture of the two time All Big Ten QB's Lumina to compare and contrast.
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
can't we start a fund to buy DC17 a new car? He sure as hell deserves it for what he did for us
then again that’s probably against NCAA regulations.
"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
by showtime on Jun 1, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Starts with donuts, better players get paid in maple syrup
Gus, don't be a gooey chocolate chip cookie.
by IcersGuy on Jun 1, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh my God
I actually found myself nodding in agreement to something written on the Bleacher Report. Excuse me while I go drink some hemlock.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
by LB31Monster on Jun 1, 2011 10:11 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
[Tressel] waited until his agent, lawyers and entourage made sure he’d still leave with some cash from his contract, assurances that the school would cover his legal fees, which could be substantial, and other things.
Jim Tressel is owed nothing on his contract, a fact which has been widely reported. This passage is a huge research FAIL.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
Well it was from Bleacher Report
Which pretty much guarentees some inaccuracy.
From this day on I shall respect Rex. I shall never misuse Rex Kwon Do. I shall be a champion of Freedom and Justice.
by psu on Jun 1, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I should have clarified
The last two sentences and the vilification were agreeable. Don’t raise the bar too high for them guys.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
these comments amaze me
at best tressel was a good guy who sold his soul to get wins. at worst he was a two faced liar who cheated and tried to hide the truth. all this “he did it to help the kids because he loved them” is a giant load of bs.
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by skarocksoi on Jun 1, 2011 10:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I hate this
You’re supposed to love your players, you’re a freaking coach. Parents and guardians are entrusting you with these kids. It’s part of your job as a college coach to guide these kids, help them when needed, scold them when needed, and make them ready for the world. This isn’t the freaking NFL, which is soul-less. These are 18-22 year old kids who often times need guidance for a myriad of reasons.
Guy is a straight up a politician
He does enough good deeds in the community, “saves” some poor kids, thumps the Bible (not calling out people who do this for the right reasons), and gets everyone in the community believing he is a saint. Well guess what, he’s doing all of this so his shady side gets over-looked. That’s pretty pathological to me. He is not a “great” man, he is a man who’s flaws go deeper than his good deeds.
He should lose his nickname
I can’t think of any Senators that would wear a sweater vest with a suit

"I'll have a scotch and water, hold the scotch."
While I have no proof
I could definitely picture this guy doing that:

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 2, 2011 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
"Tressel departs Ohio State not as a liar; not as a manipulator and certainly not as a cheater."
Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
It is quite clear that he leaves as all of those things.
And it upsets me that he was allowing all of this to go on. His actions gave him an unfair advantage in recruiting and that had a direct effect on PSU and other B10 schools. I am looking forward to some very stiff NCAA penalties.
From this day on I shall respect Rex. I shall never misuse Rex Kwon Do. I shall be a champion of Freedom and Justice.
Allow me to get this off my chest:
I doubt that any of the shady business that went on/is going on had or will have a direct impact on games. Did one or two blue chip recruits who may have gone elsewhere turn a game in Ohio State’s favor? I guess it’s possible, but I think Ohio State was dominant under Tressel because they were more talented and better coached year after year.
Here’s why the whole thing stinks. Ohio State was not playing by the same rules – not playing the same game – as everyone else. Therefore, losing to them isn’t the same. When your team loses a tough game, fans and players – especially the players (and I cannot emphasize that enough) – are hurt, but ultimately have the opportunity to grow. You lost to a better team, but life moves on and you figure some things out, as Joe might say. But because of Ohio State’s skulduggery, there is no longer any honor or virtue in the losses to them. Watching Kimball’s kick come up just short in ’03, watching Troy Smith make an insane throw in ’06, and watching McGloin collapse to a well-coached defense this year, is all for not. There is no honor. They were all crooks.
Sorry if that sounds a little melodramatic, but the biggest sins here are the sins against the players who didn’t know that the field – the whole system – was tilted towards Ohio State’s side, and who now have had their college football experiences cheapened through no fault of their own. I couldn’t care less about NCAA penalties. Make them forfeit wins, miss bowl games, or lose scholarships. Who cares? The damage is done.
Go Lions !! if
by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
You answer your own question here.
Did one or two blue chip recruits who may have gone elsewhere turn a game in Ohio State’s favor? I guess it’s possible, but I think Ohio State was dominant under Tressel because they were more talented and better coached year after year.
And why were they more talented and better coached year after year? Because, as you say…
Ohio State was not playing by the same rules – not playing the same game – as everyone else
These kids weren’t eligible and shouldn’t have been eligible. They recruit better because they offer things that Penn State doesn’t, so of course they’re more talented. And they’re better coached because they actually see the field. Had any of the minor incidents happened under Joe, those kids would have been so deep in the doghouse that they might as well have decorated if with all their memorabilia.
Someone on ATO mentioned in the comments that this wasn’t a “competitive advantage” like performance enhancing drugs. No, it’s worse. At least that plays out on the field. This is stacking the deck. The elite level kids who went to Ohio State were, by and large, recruited by both Michigan and Penn State. It’s not a wonder those kids went to school there and stayed eligible. Of course Tressel’s going to be a good pro coach – he’s already demonstrated that through his previous employer.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
I just don't think you can chalk up the talent difference to the improper benefits.
OSU won a national championship in ‘02. That means good players are going to want to go there. And though Gene Chizik may have proved me wrong, I don’t think a poor coach can win a national championship.
Basically, I don’t think any team should use this scandal as an excuse for losing. The outcomes on the field are what they are. The damage is bigger than just wins and losses.
Go Lions !! if
by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
As a recruit, there's a lot to like about Ohio State.
I wouldn’t suggest that the only reason players go there is because of the improper benefits. But that kind of culture is attractive to kids, and certainly more attractive than Penn State suspending Joe Jurevicius and Curtis Enis for a big bowl game.
I’m not willing to discard that. They didn’t just cheat themselves, they cheated other teams and students
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You said culture
Key word, that.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
J'tots
real thinking…Culture Club…“Karma Cameleon!”

So you see – Boy George’s lyrics…he is a ‘Siren’ to the tO$U club-clan. Blam him. He lured them with his lyrics. It’s true, for realz! I mean ‘red, gold and green’… it called them. They were helpless! Red = team colors; Gold = pants and Green = $$$. Red + Gold = Green. Elementary!
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by BlueWhiteLife on Jun 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
…or you can blame him; ‘blamming’ is way more cooler thou…
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Jun 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I actually ran into Boy George
in the US Air Culb at the Buffalo, NY airport. The dude had a bad case of body order. Certainly didn’t smell as sweet as he looked!
Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with his eperience.
I agree they cheated, I'm just not sure it would have made a big difference in the record.
But I totally agree with you on culture. Recruiters probably weren’t saying, “Come to OSU and get free tats” but I’m sure the perception that OSU treats its players like movie stars does come across. So, to the extent that the culture attracted a larger talent pool than simply the kids who received improper benefits, I could be wrong.
Go Lions !! if
by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Having visited Columbus for the first time (a few months ago),
I must agree. From downtown up through Short North and the university is all I saw, but that part of the city is pretty nice. Good restaurants and pubs, decent looking campus, the Shoe, etc. I can understand how it would an attractive sell to recruits. The whole thing about looking the other way and “plausible deniability” is unnecessary.
Sure is.
The other great thing for Ohio kids is that they get the chance to be the “hometown hero” if they go to Columbus. Pennsylvania has always had a split in the media between Pitt and PSU. That’s a wonderful selling point for OSU that they should (and do) use to their advantage.
I think that’s what bothers me most about this stuff. Ohio State has a lot to be proud of. Why bother with the extracurricular nonsense?
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
So what you're saying
is that PA should get rid of Pitt.
Unsupervised children will be given a case of 4loco and a basket of kittens
by rahpsu92 on Jun 1, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
That's inherent in every comment I make, whether or not the comment is related to college,
sports, college sports, Ohio, Pennsylvania, or any of the other 48 states in the union, or any topic at all.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Pitt would make an excellent part
of Ohio.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jun 1, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pittsburgh is the New Jersey of Pennsylvania

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by bent rIMs on Jun 1, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was always taught Pittsburgh was the capital of West Virginia.
"Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!"
So you never got down to 'The Bottoms?'
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
Nope.
And living here in Lancaster (PA) I usually don’t venture into the southeast part of the city either. Most every city has those areas.
I lived on Liberty St and
W Orange in Lancaster. While any part south of King St is definitely sketchy, the rest of Lancaster is a crap shoot block by block.
Unsupervised children will be given a case of 4loco and a basket of kittens
West of Duke and north of Orange is pretty good now.
The James Street Improvement District initiative poured money and low-interest loans into renovating the area. F&M really improved student housing too.
West Chestnut Street, for example, is an outstanding example.
Points deducted for severe redundancy
in that last sentence.
by CvilleLion on Jun 1, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
jr's gormet pizza mmmmmm
had to take my youngest grandson to trhe clef palet clinic. He some bizzare hole in the roof of his mouth that eventually healed. He was 6 and a half weeks premature and they said if he had gone full term he probably was going to have a clef palet. Stopped at Jr’s everytime we went.
My grammer skills need improved.
My family lived in Lancaster something like twenty years ago and latter statement was accurate then.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting point.
But why, all of the sudden, did those kids stop going to Michigan and Penn State? The answer is free tats, free cars, cash and no questions asked. Are you trying to convince me that Jim Tressell is charasmatic where John Cooper and Earl Bruce weren’t? That’s crazy talk. Tressell is about as exciting as paint dry, until you catch the fact that it was all a facade to faciliate behind the scenes shennagains.
Our rival is Stanford.
by jesse. on Jun 1, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I interpreted your comment the same as Jesse..
But that kind of culture is attractive to kids, and certainly more attractive than Penn State suspending Joe Jurevicius and Curtis Enis for a big bowl game.
Your offering these kids all kinds of short cuts and freebies all while not holding them accountable for their actions. Eighteen years olds lacking substantial guidance are going to eat this up.
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
In this case it appears Tressel was the go to guy for these things
At least while he was an assitant at tatOSU and HC at Youngstown
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That was Adam's post (above mine)
My only comment was that I visited Columbus and thought that the area around the university was kind of nice. I said nothing about Tressel or his “charisma”. Didn’t even type Tressel’s name.
you said "I agree" to his post about those improper benefits.
Most people would take that to mean you agreed with the post ;-p
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I agreed to the heading.
“As a recruit, there’s a lot to like about Ohio State”. Then I talked about the city.
But whatever.
and you ended your comment with talk of why of looking the other way and plausible deniability was unnecessary.
jesse. was pointing out that Columbus was likely just as nice of an area to live back during the Earl Bruce and John Cooper tenures, and yet suddenly Tressel comes in and Penn State and Michigan no longer have an ability to compete with recruits from Ohio.
This implies that something changed, and while it might not have been the “free tats, free cars, cash and no questions asked”, those are possibly better explanations than “Tressel’s award winning charisma”. Granted, there were other things Tressel could sell (maybe people bought into his other philosophies), but it is curious that such a lockdown would occur right around the time that the rulebooks were thrown out the window in Columbus.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesse's direct quote:
Are you trying to convince me that Jim Tressell is charasmatic where John Cooper and Earl Bruce weren’t?
My answer: No. I’m just saying that Columbus and tOSU has enough going for it that they shouldn’t have to cheat to get recruits.
That they did cheat isn’t even a question. They did.
well, my take on this discussion
was that OSU benefited from cheating, while some are saying that they’d have gotten the same recruits if they weren’t cheating. No one can say for sure, but one thing that can be said was that they didn’t have quite the same recruiting success prior to cheating as they did after. Plenty of things could have caused that, of course.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 2, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
"Your offering these kids all kinds of short cuts and freebies all while not holding them accountable for their actions. Eighteen years olds lacking substantial guidance are going to eat this up."
Sounds pretty awesome actually. It’s the Year of Accountability in my office this year. What a treat.
"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
If I was a recruit, the best thing to like about..
Ohio State is that they send a lot of players to the NFL.
I am epic win.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jun 1, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
2002, however
was a case of Tressel scraping by again and again with the highly talented recruits from the John Cooper era.
Cooper could get GREAT players, he simply couldn’t beat Michigan. Ahmed Plummer, Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield, Rob Kelly, Shawn Springs, and Orlando Pace all were drafted from Ohio State under Cooper.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 1, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
they did win the national title in '02
which begs the question of how many free tatoos that ref got who called the controversial Pass Interference in that game?
I'm not going to use that as an excuse for Penn State losing
But I’ll be damned if I don’t use it as an excuse for them winning.
by misdreavus79 on Jun 1, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You bring up some good points
regarding the less tangible.
However just focusing on wins/losseses – In an alternate U, if these athletes had been removed from the OSU team at the time of the penaltiy would the Buckeyes have been as successful the last ten years? In ten years I think they could have easily lost an additional 10 games. That’s the difference of several shared championships at least.
Unsupervised children will be given a case of 4loco and a basket of kittens
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I don’t think history would be much difference in your alternate university.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a league for strictly focusing on wins and losses, it's called the NFL
These are college students and they should be educated on doing things the right way.
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You're dead on.
Penn State, Michigan, etc. recruits a kid and recruit spends time with the team. Penn State players, etc. tell recruit “You play here, you go to practice, you go to class, there are no free cars, no no-show jobs, etc. You tow the line or you don’t play.”
Recruit then goes to Columbus. Fuckeye players tell recruit "You come here, Mickey Mouse classes are the rule. You sell your memorabilia and nobody says anything. You get a car. Maybe your mama and papa get a car. Everybody’s doing it. Everybody knows it. Nobody says anything. Not Coach. Not AD Smith. Not Gordon Gee (Damn, what a little fucking twerp). Now, where do you think the recruit will go?
And that is why Ohio State dominated. They got a lot of recruits they otherwise would not have gotten if they played by the same rules. Strip them of wins. Then that also eliminates this “Co-champ” bullshit from 2008.
And here’s the other half of all this: Tressel, being the grown moral man of honor and integrity should have known better as to what was going on. He didn’t know who to tell. Let me guess: Atheletic Director, University President, NCAA Compliance Officer? I am not a coach and I know this. How could he not know? He’s a damn liar. And THAT’S why he’s being punished. Let me relay a little personal story in this: Our daughter is 11 years old and is in 5th grade. Last fall she violated a couple of rules at school (nothing major in her mother’s and I’s opinions) and when they violate rules at school, the school sends home ‘trackers" stating what they did wrong and one of the parents sign the forms and that’s it. Our daughter had the bright idea to forge her mother’s signature and the principal knew it. I got a phone call from the principal and told the principal to tell our daughter “Your father knows THIS tracker is coming. I’ve spoken to him. And he knows about the other one that you forged.” Our daughter knew she was in deep shit. When she told us what she did wrong, I asked her why she lied. The offenses were not serious at all. A five minute talk and it would have been done. But she lied. And like I had told her since she was five, “If you screw up, fess up and we’ll deal with it. Lie and the punishment will be worse.” So instead of getting a five minute talk, she was grounded for two weeks because she lied. Same with Tressel. If he would have just told the truth, it probably would have been blown over. But going back to his days at Youngstown State, he’s proven to be a pathological liar and cheat. There is no getting over that. Being the moral standard bearer he should instruct the young men when they screw up, not cover it up.
I would suggest using scare quotes instead of the sarcasm font in the middle of a paragraph.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
Hey now
Don’t forget the co-champ bullshit of 2005.
How they claim so many Big Ten titles….a bit frustrating it is
my hope from all of this is that they lose their 2008 co-champion title. That would be enough to make me happy
"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
I need some of what Along the Olentangy is smoking.
Dude, your coach was busted in a major scandal and you don’t believe he was a liar manipulator and cheat?
I guess you also heard sweater vest procaliam at the news conference, “My work is done here. I’m taking some time off to spend with my family. Oh and by the way, I did it for the children.”
You can get that stuff at
a certain tatoo parlor in C-bus. Oops, think it might be closed now (if the Buckeye fans haven’t torched it).
Seriously, would you want your kid to hang out with this guy?

I really had Rife pictured as an older guy
Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with his eperience.
I also pictured him
having at least one visible tatooo above his shoulders. What kind of tatoo parlor owner doesn’t show any ink? Mental note – I don’t think I would trust this individual.
Unsupervised children will be given a case of 4loco and a basket of kittens
You wouldn't trust him?
Is it the slightly disheveled hair? The pale, vampire-like skin tone? The red circles under his eyes that make him look like he hasn’t slept in 2 weeks? The creepy jaundice thing happening around his mouth? lol
I was forming my
hypothesis around the lack of neck tats, but you sold me on bad haircut.
Unsupervised children will be given a case of 4loco and a basket of kittens
Mug shots always look bad
Then they show up in court looking like a choir boy!
Don't argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with his eperience.
What do you mean "major?"
According to an ATO commenter, all of Tressel’s violations were secondary violations.
Yes, seriously.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for the major violation that Gene Smith admitted at that abortion of a press conference?
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
That press conference was absolutely painful to watch
I bet they thought they’d get off easy if they let Tressel talk for 10 minutes. People would be BEGGING for it to end.
“WE DONT CARE ANYMORE, WE’RE SORRY WE BOTHERED YOU, JUST MAKE THE BORING MAN STOP! PLEASE!?”
Having the Six Flags guy as your Pres doesn't help either.

What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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by Ben Jones on Jun 1, 2011 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
If what this man says is true...
I’m thinking about opening a 7 Flags.
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by rahpsu92 on Jun 1, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
RUTS
I know you’re a self-admitted douchebag, but since my foot is lodged firmly in my mouth, I need you to tell Collyer what an idiot he is for thinking Meyer’s a good guy. TIA.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Self-admitted idiot here either way.
I don’t know if Meyer’s a “good” guy, but I don’t see how the perception of him as a bad actor has been formulated on the basis of some questionable message board speculation.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
He's not Joe Paterno
So that makes him a bad guy in Ramblers eyes. Duh.
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by jman07 on Jun 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I admit that this is where I start off with everyone, yes.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Forget you.
Your mom’s a bad actor.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The evidence trail is significantly less substantial on Meyer.
But I don’t want him here, for sure.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No, you stupid git!
Tell him what an idiot he is!
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
PERSONAL ATTACK REQUESTING A PERSONAL ATTACK.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes!
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
PERSONNEL ATTACK!
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 2, 2011 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven't followed this real closely,
but isn’t there more to the SI investigation? I think more wrongdoing is expected to be revealed. Am I wrong?
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions
There's more, but Dohrmann didn't feel comfortable printing it without further confirmation.
He talked about it on Van Pelt yesterday, but the gist was that there was a lot of information that he was concerned about writing without another source to corroborate it.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
There's always more to these articles.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus these articles are more exciting to people who
don’t do google searches for this info every single day.
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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he should write for Bleacher then
they don’t give a crap about sources
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by Mr. Rosewater on Jun 1, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
does that mean he had multiple credible sources corroborating the raffle rigging?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
And someone willing to go on the record, if I remember correctly.
I think they were anonymous, but the source was probably vetted by his editor.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
the initial rumors concerning athletes stealing equipment and selling it perhaps?
It was maybe danced around when he talked about how when asked how he got so many jerseys, etc., he said “I get anything I want”
Ohio State fans are certainly entitled to their own brand of post-mortems
Laughable or repugnant as they may be to fans of Penn State. And a few of them are probably right in that Jim Tressel is not a person who can be accurately painted with a single brush. But if you’re looking for someone who can cover a little more ground in with a fair depiction, and from a less emotionally-invested place, you could take in Spencer’s take:
And this is an important delineation. Tressel is not a grand villain, he was what everyone wanted all along: a slightly corrupt high school principal, a three-percent cheater, a friendly, local, and tolerable kind of corruption. Tressel did a lot of things off the field he’ll never be given enough credit for, including embracing gay athletes in concept, something that would flip wigs almost anywhere else in college football. He’s a complex character and deserves that treatment. Jim Tressel is the guy who owned Michigan for the better part of a decade, who dismantled Oregon’s touchdown orgy in 2009, and who legitimately helped a lot of people in the Columbus area. He’s also the man who lied to the NCAA, lost to USC and Florida, and who willfully ignored the nutrient-rich bath of benefits athletes marinated in while playing for Ohio State in Columbus. Same dude in all instances, and certainly not alone in any of it.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
I think the reason most people are so mad at him (outside of Columbus)
is that he has come off like a raging hypocrite. He preached virtues and morals yet tried to sweep things under the rug from his superiors while also turning a blind eye to the corruption around him. He didn’t need to go out of his way to craft this aura that created the nickname, Senator, but he did. To me, his hubris (or at least his perceived hubris), is what has people shaking their heads.
O$U fans say we (as in the PSU fanbase, among others) are needlessly taking shots and being gleeful in all this. My only thought is, give me a break. Can you imagine the vitriol that we would be facing if JoePa, founder of the Grand Experiment, was found to have done half of what Tressel allowed? The American public hates hypocrites. Just look at politicians who profess sanctity of marriage or anything like that, then they’re found to have multiple girlfriends. Heck, look at Tiger Woods. He presented an image of a devout family man, a loving husband, and a fierce competitor. Half the reason that story blew up as big as it did was his personal life didn’t back up the image he portrayed. That is the Vest’s biggest mistake. Preaching honor, integrity, and then lying to his superiors.
"I want to be remembered as an ambassador of Penn State University. I want people to remember me not only athletically but for my character too. It’s important that I play well, but I want people to remember me for who I was as a person." ~Silas Redd
by jman07 on Jun 1, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
"Come off"? Is.
Spencer’s treatment is more “reasonable” than Ohio State fans and less “biased” than ours, whatever, but while I may be biased and unreasnable, it seems to me that there’s no way Tressel didn’t know he wasn’t a hypocrite, a cheater, and a liar. He’s too smart for that. The guy needs a good psychiatrist and probably a good church because he’s got some serious mental health issues to make awful decisions for more than twenty years.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
was, not wasn't, sorry
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
You're right
he didn’t “come off” as a hypocrite, he was one.
"I want to be remembered as an ambassador of Penn State University. I want people to remember me not only athletically but for my character too. It’s important that I play well, but I want people to remember me for who I was as a person." ~Silas Redd
Another thing to remeber:
Nobody is taking glee in a cheater getting caught. It’s not like he or his wife was caught in an affair, or he or his wife or kids were diagnosed with an incurable disease or his house burned down or his parents died. That’s personal and off limits to me. He’s getting nailed for lying, cheating, and being a hypocrite. And are we taking delight in it and glad. Yeah. Why? Because it shows that, in this world, the bad guys, the dishonest people don’t always win.
by Ab4PSU on Jun 1, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let me redo the first sentence:
Nobody is taking glee in any personal tragedy in his life he couldn’t prevent.
Excellent insight
regarding Tressel’s hypocrisy being the driving force behind people’s anger.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jun 1, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh.
I don’t think reasonable people are saying he’s a villain, and I think everyone would agree that he didn’t do this alone. Most people are saying he is a liar and a violator of NCAA rules. They are saying that because he lied, and broke NCAA rules.
Wasn’t Pete Carrol supposed to be a great guy? I think he helped people in bad neighborhoods in LA. It doesn’t mean he wasn’t a bum who broke the rules and cheapened college athletics.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
But, anyway, a villain is someone who’s devoted to wickedness and crime. I don’t know if I’d say Tressel is “devoted” to lying, hypocrisy, and cheating, but, uh, he certainly appears to struggle with using those things, doesn’t he?
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but by your own admission, you’re unreasonable.
I don’t think he’s a villain, but “C’mon, he was a good guy” is not a legitimate defense. He broke the rules. He left in shame. His record will forever be tarnished, and it’s his own fault.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
See, they’re pretty much the only group of people (I’m sure there are some scattered individuals around – like Dick Tressel) on the entire planet who pity this guy. The lines about increasing brutus’s academics and “helping the kids” are all fine and good, but they’re not the actual reason. The real reason is that the guy won a lot of football games for their favorite team – the team they invest so much energy in, the only good pro team in the state – and they’re bound to look back on that with fondness. They can’t just give up on remembering all of the glory in a favorable light, regardless of the fact that the glory was all fake. They stopped UM from going to the Rose Bowl in Ann Arbor in 2001, there was “Holy Buckeye” against Purdue in 2002 and the championship game, and there was Troy Smith winning the Heisman after winning OMG Game of the Century against UM in 2006. Good times, no matter the expense.
I think we’ve seen some reactions from these people that demonstrate their realization that there is room for morality and for schools to do their utmost to be just in football, but their school hasn’t bothered to try.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
He wasn't a villian, he just turned out to be exactly who we thought he was all along
underneath all of the “Senator Tressel” BS.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 1, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Are you saying
“They were who we thought they were!”?
Agreed.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
all the "Senator Tressel" BS
I know I’m not the only one who thinks this nickname is even more apt now than before the lying allegations.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
My twitter account was ...hacked, yeah, yeah it was hacked
yeah, that’s the ticket.
I'm your late night evening prostitute
by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
HaHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
just saw him on the new and he would not deny anything. Hilarious!!!
My grammer skills need improved.
Brett Favre's cell phone must have been stolen too
Yea, that’s how those pics got sent. Must have.
"I want to be remembered as an ambassador of Penn State University. I want people to remember me not only athletically but for my character too. It’s important that I play well, but I want people to remember me for who I was as a person." ~Silas Redd
You mean these guys?





I'm your late night evening prostitute
by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh, John Edwards makes me want to puke
That isn’t a political statement, it’s a human being with a moral compass statement.
RIP Elizabeth Edwards.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 2, 2011 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
As a brief Edwards supporter, yeah, what a piece of human trash that guy is.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 2, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And another thing.
If this is all true, you know who should be really pissed? Gay athletes and the beneficiaries of his largesse in Columbus. They just lost a champion.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I must have missed when he stood up for gay athletes
My cousin was an elite swimmer and still holds some records at Penn. He stayed in the closet a long time out of fear. I wish they had more vocal support from the top and from their teammates.
or both
(you know, if the teammate was the top)
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That first ATO quote is like an axe swinging against the tree of reality.
I’m impressed, frankly.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
I expected ohio state fans to act this way.
They will always rationalize every bad thing the school does. This is textbook psychology.
Publicity is like poison; it doesn't hurt unless you swallow it.
Joe Paterno
Tressel is the symptom, not the disease
I thought this bleacher report article was the most interesting reaction.
I don’t mean to interrupt the national barbecuing of Jim Tressel, which I’m enjoying as much as the next guy, but there are three kinds of hypocrisy in play here, and at this point it’s hard not to see Tressel’s as the least of the bunch.
The SI story is really a story about the NCAA’s essential hypocrisy. It’s about black market economies and bad incentives and how the NCAA’s quaint ideal of amateurism creates both, impelling people like Tressel and his players to the sort of commonplace deceit that the Joe Fridays in the press never tire of exposing.
The fact is that, with rare exception of places like Penn State, what happened at OSU happens everywhere in major college football. And treating the symptom — Tressel — while important and fun, won’t stop the disease — the inequity with which players are treated in the system.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
What is substantially different at Penn State and Stanford that neither has a major infraction to their names? I won’t even argue the point, I just want to see what you think distinguishes those two programs from, say, Notre Dame.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
There was a book published in the early to mid-90's titled "Underneath the Tarnished Dome."
Notre Dame did have a scandal at some point about some players getting things they shouldn’t. I don’t remember all the details. The book may have even been “Beneath the Tarnished Dome” but you get the idea. Holier than Thou Notre Dame has also been accused of some serious things.
I don't know anything about Stanford, but I'll address Penn State.
I think the biggest reason is Joe. His continuity and the continuity he’s created on his staff, and his philosophy. Winning is not Joe’s top priority. This used to infuriate me, and I hated him for it. Now I get it. He’s an educator first. I don’t think he sees the advantage of not playing by the rules.
I also think the environment plays a role. It’s pretty hard to get in trouble in State College unless you’re drinking or peeing in public. And football players are beloved, but they’re not treated like royalty, in my opinion. I don’t think the Saturn dealership on Atherton St would care if Gino Capone walked in and was interested in test driving a car. I don’t think the Saturn dealership would care about anyone, because it’s gone, but you catch my drift.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
I don't know about Lou Holtz
but you certainly can’t say Charlie Weis was an educator first, football coach second. Hiring him made it crystal clear what Notre Dame really wanted from their football program.
I sat in the stands for the ND/PSU game at Beaver stadium....
and had a discussion with some of my section mates…..PSU won the game, but during the contest, my friends stated how stupid Charley Weis was…..not so I countered, he just got an extension of his contract and a 10 Million cash add-on….we all know how it eventually played out, but there was always the rumor that Ole Charley was the person that started that rumor that he was being courted by the Pros to come back and coach there. Stupid? I don’t think so.
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by DerryPharmer on Jun 1, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I never for a minute said he was stupid.
Stupid he is not. But an educator first? Forget it. Even caring about the kids more than he cared about himself? Doubtful.
I agree with you.
The escalation of money over the past 10 years plays a part too. Multi billion dollar industries create leeches and hangers on, and its hard to say no when you are a poor or “near poor” college athlete. I never traded anything in college for gifts, but I can’t say 100% that I wouldn’t have if someone had offered. Joe works tirelessly to shelter his palyers and keeps a vigilant eye for the leeches…and is not scared to call them out by name as warnings for his student athletes to stay away from.
Which, not to take anything away from Joe or to defend others, is surely easier to do in State College than in Columbus or L.A. or pretty much the entire state of Florida.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
so, what'd you vote in the "honor without success" or "success without honor" poll? :-p
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
dude
don’t think I didn’t get my frosty on before Joe broiught the hammer down
by hbeach08 on Jun 1, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
this will be my first (and hopefully only) rec of a potential NCAA violation
but the visual is just too good.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
also, do you know if Joe reported the frosty situation to the NCAA?
Sure, he dealt his own internal justice, but he would have to technically report that, right? If so, is there any way in the world that we could get an official transcript of that report.
I can just picture the compliance people at the NCAA:
“Ok, looks like Bob from University X was caught receiving $100 handshakes, and Jerry over at University Y got a free car. Oh, look, a report from Penn State. This is gonna be juicy!!!! (reads report) GRRR, how many times do we have to tell Joe, a Frosty is chump change compared to what we’re looking for!!!”
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I doubt Joe reported it
the NCAA compliance guy (something Bove) might have
but dude, literally a half dozen guys got a $5 coupon book of $1 Wendy’s tickets and Joe found out about it
looking back it’s pretty damn hilarious
Joe knew EVERYTHING….he would get wind if there was a card game with more than nickel stakes and preach how gambling amongst peers would create jealousy and internal strife
by hbeach08 on Jun 1, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You just know he had rats.
I’d love – I’d be deeply honored – to be a rat for Joe Paterno
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
so was Joe more like Varys or Littlefinger?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
well, we know he is no eunuch
that much is certain
by hbeach08 on Jun 1, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I fear that not enough people on BSD read/watch Game of Thrones
and that this comment will not receive the roughly 2 million recs it deserves.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said and....
I think if AL Capone went to the now defunct Saturn dealership, he would not have paid for the car at all, let alone test-driving it. But then his accountant, Jake “Greasy Thumb” Guzik, would have figured out a way to get at least 8 cars with “0” cost to Al plus a rebate on each.
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by DerryPharmer on Jun 1, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
All of that is true. Also, Penn State has now branded itself with "Success with Honor."
It’s not just a football thing or an athletics thing. It’s an all-university thing. The “For the Future” fundraising campaign is predicated on the branding and Spanier and Curley talk about “success with honor” nearly every chance they get.
It’s a point of emphasis, probably now more than ever before.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Saturn dealership is gone?!
They had the best cookies there.
Is it surprising that
the Saturn dealership is gone, considering GM scrapped the brand a few years ago before taking a government handout and declaring bankrupcy? Maybe they kept the dealership and are selling delicious cookies instead of decent cars.
Unsupervised children will be given a case of 4loco and a basket of kittens
I'd pay more for a batch of badass cookies
than I would for a saturn.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jun 1, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Also, not that you're arguing this,
but it’s not as though everyone except PSU and Stanford are bums. There are plenty of clean programs, especially in the Big Ten. I reckon that if you examined all of them, two major factors would be 1) an administration/staff that wants to do things the right way, and 2) a community/fanbase that supports them.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, this.
I’m getting tired of hearing about how broken and corrupt college football is because Jim Tressel and Buckeyes got busted. There are many schools, even ones with NCAA violations, who try to do things the right way. There just aren’t many that are as successful.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Notre Dame?
That’s easy, our coach doesn’t kill people and then joke about it.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jun 1, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Okay......
“We’ll take the N*&&#^s and the C$#@+s, but No Irish!”
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by DerryPharmer on Jun 1, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
The sheriff is near!
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
by Semicorrect on Jun 1, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ditto, you provincial putz!
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
by DerryPharmer on Jun 1, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't buy the "poor students" angle on this
its not like these kids are selling stuff to pay for food or books. they were out getting tattoos and cars, trying to look the part of the high status athlete. and that was the entire problem with osu, the emphasis of the athlete in “student-athlete”. More concerned with wins instead of getting an education and doing whatever it takes to get those wins and looking the part while doing it. it starts at the top and filters all the way down.
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by skarocksoi on Jun 1, 2011 1:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah really...
“My Mom’s can’t afford to buy me a full sleave of ugly tattoos, what was I supposed to do?”
My ass.
Our rival is Stanford.
by jesse. on Jun 1, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what would be the rule on OSU having a free tattoo parlor on campus that all students could use?
Could have saved a lot of aggravation.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
think about it now
pay a guy to run a free tattoo parlor, couple hundred grand a year, Bet the football players would still find a way to trade shit to get a better place in line…..
My grammer skills need improved.
Ohio State fans need some "distance" before they can look at this objectively.
I really can understand the desire to circle the wagons right now. This is a huge national pile on, way worse than we got after the OTL segment.
They also need to generate brain matter between their ears.
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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by Ben Jones on Jun 1, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The more I see and read on Tressel
The more I am reminded of that TV show “V”
Tressel is like the really hot V chick (take your pick) on the outside and YIKES! on the inside.
by ljdevine on Jun 1, 2011 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I was joking, I know the general premise of the show, although I have no desire to watch
Isn’t it just a modern remake of some show from the 80s about lizard people invading earth impersonating humans?
You didn't use the sarcasm font, dawson.
Yes it was a remake and I was a big fan of the 80s miniseries and show and the most recent version. But I heard it’s not being renewed.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
Shame, shame, shame.....
The lying, cheating, manipulating, pompous, arrogant, hypocrite got caught…..it’s like the HokiePokie—-that’s what it’s all about. This crap wouls still be going on if not for the arrogance of the people involved…..it’s that plain and simple. AND you cannot convince me that the “higher-ups” had no idea that something was going on that could eventually take down the program. You tO$U apoligizers(and I realize it’s tough to admit) are reluctant to admit that, “it’s not that bad” because everybody does it. It is bad, because tO$U is a brand-name FB school nationally and in the B1G…..you have disgraced yourselves by your arrogance and non-compliance to the rules. I take no pleasure in that at all. I realize that it can happen anywhere, but with a moral infrastructure, led by men of good example, it doesn’t have to. Amen.
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I feel absolutely nothing about this situation
It’s a shame it happened to a B10 school, but that’s about it. I guess I’m reminded of all the hooting and hollaring we had going on after Michigan lost to Appalacian State. We had this great couple of days as we laughed and pointed. Then a few weeks later they beat us anyway. They went on to beat Timmy Tebow and Urban Meyer, and suddenly that loss didn’t really matter as much.
I guess my point is, all this gloating makes me uncomfortable. They’re still a good team with a top notch staff loaded with talent. But all the fun people are having with this situation now won’t matter much on November 19th.
by millzners on Jun 1, 2011 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
True that.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
That's an interesting point
Welcome back, btw. I hope your point about this off-field stuff being unrelated to the on-field stuff this November doesn’t have an opposite result. I think we’re set up far better this year to compete with them for 60 minutes, and last year we did very, very well for 30.
If we beat them on the field, I’d be sad to see this off-field stuff used as a crutch.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
The "stuff" unfortunately will be used.....
win, lose or draw.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
Yeah, I disagree.
This isn’t like the aftermath of a murder. I wouldn’t gloat when a murderer rode old sparky to Heaven or Hell, but this is different. This is a scummy football coach basically getting his.
Moreover, I wouldn’t call what we’re doing gloating. Gloating is malignant in some way. I’m not sure how to phrase this exactly, but what we are doing is celebrating that a cheater got caught. We are happy that all of the stuff we suspected and all of the stuff we knew has truly been proved and we are laughing at Ohio State fans because they’re so stinking funny right now. That ATO post is just remarkable in humor terms.
And, even if we are celebrating, it’s not like we’re all dancing in the streets anyway. There are a lot of different perspectives here today and lately. Spakajewia doesn’t seem to be celebrating. Derry’s saying “I told you so.” You’re definitely, obviously not gloating or celebrating. Me, I’m conflicted and not really celebrating or gloating, but I am happy to see the house of cards fall.
I just don’t think I’d call this gloating. Anyway, the real point is that cheaters deserve to be mocked, regardless of the whole state of college football.
And before I forget, no, I don’t see any reason to feel sorry for the guy yet because of all the good stuff he may have done. If he doesn’t improve himself through some means, then maybe I’ll feel bad for him.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Personally,
I’m pissed, in part for the reasons I explained in my long-winded, self-indulgent comment above, and in part, as always, because Penn State joined the Big Ten and I have to put up with this crap.
Go Lions !! if
by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously we're coming from a non-tOSU perspective (thank goodness)
but I agree that it isn’t celebrating. This was a long time coming. Many of us expected something like this to happen, but were afraid that it would get swept under the rug or ignored, or that the evidence would get shredded.
If we’re celebrating anything, it’s being right all this time, not that OSU is looking at pretty hard spanking in the months ahead (we don’t even know how harsh that’s going to be yet).
Too bad this didn't come out before graduation
the celebration in State College probably would have been worse than the actual riot in 08
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Also, it bears mentioning that while it's unfortunate that Andrew from Waiting for Next Year
doesn’t believe that compliance is a coach’s responsibility, it turns out that he’s wrong.
In most institutions, especially those with large and varied athletics programs, such delegations
are made to a number of individuals who are expected to exercise control over compliance with
regard to specific aspects of the program. The specific obligations of such individuals should be
in writing, and not merely an understanding among the senior officials of the university and the
athletics department. Not only the director of athletics, but other officials in the athletics
department, the faculty athletics representative, the head coaches and the other institutional
administrators outside of the athletics department responsible for such matters as the certification
of athletes for financial aid, practice and competition, are expected to assume a primary role in
ensuring compliance.
C. ACTS THAT ARE LIKELY TO DEMONSTRATE A LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL
. . .
8. A head coach fails to create and maintain an atmosphere for compliance within
the program the coach supervises or fails to monitor the activities of assistant
coaches regarding compliance.
A head coach has special obligation to establish a spirit of compliance among the entire
team, including assistant coaches, other staff and student-athletes. The head coach
must generally observe the activities of assistant coaches and staff to determine if they
are acting in compliance with NCAA rules. Too often, when assistant coaches are
involved in a web of serious violations, head coaches profess ignorance, saying that they
were too busy to know what was occurring and that they trusted their assistants. Such a
failure by head coaches to control their teams, alone or with the assistance of a staff
member with compliance responsibilities, is a lack of institutional control.
But hey, why look something up when you just have an opinion on it?
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by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Like Pat Forde (1)? Works for him! JoePa (2) is old!
/kills self (3) with a Colt pistol (4)
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
this perspective allows Andrew to sleep at night
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
This type of stuff makes me laugh
Like the Ray Small thing, he gives info, then says he doesn’t. I hope Epstein posts everything on SI.com just to shut him up.
Isaac said, “Jim Tressel is as good a man as you’ll ever meet. It’s almost to the point where it’s hokey; you would think he is phony.”
Hey Ray, not only would people think he’s phoney, they actually do!
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Once again, the lesson in all this remains
that you should never trust anyone who wears religion on their sleeve. Those people are always bigots.
Knock it off
That kind of crap has no place here.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
by jtothep on Jun 1, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I respect your opinion
but I’m unapologetic about mine. I don’t have anything against religion. But don’t you find it odd that the people who always want to beat it down your throat are the people like Tressel?
by rodney20 on Jun 1, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, you clearly don't
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
Lets just let it go
he said he was sorry (See below) and it’ll just do this thread and community a lot of good to leave it at that.
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Yea I didn't see the apology
Before I posted this.
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
No problem.
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FTFY
that you should never trust anyone who wears religion on their sleeve a sweatervest. Those people are always bigots weird.
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by jman07 on Jun 1, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The sweatervest
is an odd choice of wardrobe.
Not bigots.
But they’re frequently hypocritical pieces of garbage with double standards, aren’t they?
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Knock it off
That kind of crap has no place here.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
It shouldn't, I'm not talking about you.
But when high-profile public figures, whether they’re politicians, mega-evangelists, or football coaches begin to trumpet their own piousness (and thereby imply that the rest of us godless creatures are devoid of morality), it’s usually a good bet that they’re hiding sinister behind it. This isn’t exactly a groundbreaking observation.
To say that “all ______ are always ________” is dumb regardless of the topic, of course.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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by Ben Jones on Jun 1, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I dislike pandas.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t try to preserve their habitats and the animal itself, but, I mean, come on. It relies too much on something like one single food source and it can only have one baby per year. And that baby takes forever to grow. This is a poorly thought out animal, whether it’s by evolution, God, or both.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not my problem
if their evolutionary plans didn’t take into account 7 billion primates competing for land and other resources. Survival of the fittest.
They're almost like OSU fans
a lot of potential, but not a lot between the ears.
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by Ben Jones on Jun 1, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget the razor sharp claws
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1. The original comment said never trust “ANYONE who wears religion on their sleeves”.
2. Preaching, sharing their faith, etc is not the same as “trumpeting their own piousness”. Saying you go to church or pray or love God is not ever the same as saying they are better than anyone else. If they actually SAY they are better than anyone else, they clearly don’t get what the Bible actually says.
3. It’s a good bet that the vast majority of people have something hidden in their closets. The more powerful they are, the more they speak, the more likely these skeletons will be revealed. I think this is regardless of whether they talk about faith or morals or not.
1. Which is why I said “To say that "all ______ are always ________" is dumb regardless of the topic, of course.”
2. We don’t disagree on any of that. Jim Tressel wrote two books on faith and integrity. That’s not simply going to church, or praying, or loving God. That’s monetization of the idea of faith and integrity. Big difference.
3. If people have skeletons in their closet, doesn’t it make sense to either (a) admit them and ask for forgiveness and/or (b) not continue to pretend to be an authority on morality?
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
of course I agree with your last line
I didn’t know Tressel wrote a book on it, and I haven’t read it so I can’t REALLY say much about that, but I’m still not against the idea of writing books about faith and integrity and the people who write said books are never perfect. Never. Perfect.
Yeah but sometimes the past is the past and it’s not like when you’re running for office or being a pastor you’re gonna start every speech with “Hey, I suck, I sin, I’m not perfect, I did x, y, and z, please forgive me and let’s move on.”
I just don’t see things the way you and most people do when it comes to how the mighty fall.
Two books!
The past can be the past…in the future. Now it’s the now. AND I JUST BLEW YOUR MIND.
Everyone gets a second chance, at a minimum (forgiveness, right?). But it’s right to call the hypocrites out when they’re found to be frauds.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I literally read that first line several times.
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Sounds like something a drunken coach would say in a pregame speech.
Like my high school coach, who told us that football was 1/2 offense, 1/2 defense, and 1/2 special teams.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Or baseball is ninety percent mental and the other half is physical.
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Everything that happens now is HAPPENING NOW.
“What happened to then?”
“We passed then.”
“When?”
“Just now. We’re at now, NOW.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36SQTFIAZKU
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by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
You sure you didn't steal that speech from Jay?
“Ok guys, 30% of the time 40% of you will have a %50 chance of going out there today and giving us a %110 effort.”
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60% of the time it works everytime
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by jman07 on Jun 1, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL yes, mind blown.
I think it’s right to call out the true hypocrites, Tressel in this case. But I’m finding that word applied much too broadly these days. Not all pastors who have affairs are hypocrites, for example. They are sinners, just like me.
We have different definitions of that word, but that's okay too.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Like people who drink
Natty Light and Stella in the same evening. Those are hypocrites
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I may think this is hilarious.
Can you elaborate?
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
One beer tastes like crap
The other one tastes good, but somewhat like the one previously mentioned.
Actually I really like Stella.
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That didn't answer your question
but I felt like saying it.
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Stella, to me, is like Corona.
Why not just buy a case of Miller Lite and then set the other $10 on fire?
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Stella's a staple in my apartment, alongside Brooklyn Pennant Ale and a Sam Adams
of some kind.
Did the Sam Adams Brewery tour a few weeks ago. Good good times.
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Or use that 10 dollars to but some Guinness
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by Ben Jones on Jun 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
*buy
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You could proabably butt guiness too though
Supposed to get you drunk faster, which makes sense given the absorption of liquid function of the large intestine without having to go through the stomach and small intestine
Not to get totally snobby,
but Guinness isn’t all it’s cracked up to be either. It’s fine when you can get a cheap draft, but there’s nothing that pisses me off more than when a bar charges $6 or $7 for a Guinness, like it’s something special. It has a slightly higher ABV than NA beer, and doesn’t offer much in the way of taste. It’s fine for a session beer at a bar, but if you’re buying beer by the case, there are better stout options available at a similar price point.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Guinness needs to be served and judged
in draft form at an Irish or English pub. It definitely suffers here in the US — especially (ugh) bottled.
I've always loved Guinness
However, after touring the brewery at St. James Gate and drinking massive quantities of it in Ireland and the UK it was very disappointing to drink it back in LA. We sorely miss out on the serious Guinness goodness of Dublin.
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm jealous, Frank.
I lived in London and drank it in the local pub, but never made it over to Dublin.
I've been fortunate to make a few trips to Dublin in the last 15 years
It’s like Happy Valley but much, much older.
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh really?
Guinness extract shipped to plants in Canada and Nigeria aren’t as good as the Guinness brewed in the original brewery? Shocking.
In related news, I need to learn how to execute the sarcasm font.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jun 1, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well,
If it comes in the 20 oz. traditional Guinness glass, that makes up for the price difference at the bar.
However, I have recently seen 16 oz. miniature versions of the traditional 20 oz. glass, and it has angered me.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jun 1, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Guinness is delicious and nutritious
it just depends on where you get it. At some places its much better than others. And its amazing in Ireland. It’s almost a life changing experience.
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It also depends on how many people at the bar/pub order it
and how long it’s been sitting in the keg.
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I love seeing some of those old Guinness signs
I swear I saw one when I was in Ireland that said, “Drink Guinness for a healthy baby” (something about the iron content). I couldn’t find a picture of the poster, but did find recollections of the same anecdote: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1222684/Dont-believe-say—Guinness-isnt-good-you.html
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 2, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Anybody who drinks Natty after college has 0 standards.
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But a really good time.
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by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you don't mind feeling like
a tank ran you over, then backed up over you, and ran over you again. Other than that, sure, it’s a great time
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by jman07 on Jun 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You've defined my weekend mornings for the past year
whether I was drinking like a gentleman or not, sadly.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
Is there anything worse
than realizing your body doesn’t tolerate drinking like it used to? I now get the same headaches after drinking 5 beers that I got in college after having 15. Sad times, this getting older.
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Its the indigestion two days after that really bums me out.
New Year’s Day this year is when it really hit me.
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Drink better beer....
Meet me at Good ta Go. Troegs is doing a Pale Ale firkin (mini keg, special made, dry hopped) on the last thursday in June. Be there, the firkins are worth it.
My grammer skills need improved.
Anyone who drinks Natty after making a 21 year old friend has 0 standards
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
by Kyle_Martin on Jun 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least get Lionshead
It’s just as cheap but at least has some taste to it.
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Haven't liked Lionshead since they changed the recipe
a few years ago
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It's all we bought in college once we could buy our own beer
I haven’t had it in a while since its only in PA. But you can beat riddles under the caps.
My roommates and I saved all our caps one summer in a drawer in my coffee table, eventually filling 2 whole drawers. Then when my dad was helping me move out at the end of the summer and we tipped the coffee table on its side to get it out the door, all the caps spilled out inside the table. My dad looked at me and asked “what the heck was that?” to which I responded “Most of my summer”
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by skarocksoi on Jun 1, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if everyone running for a position of power (politicians especially)
had to start off every speech with “Hey, I suck, I sin, I’m not perfect, I did x, y, and z, please forgive me and let’s move on.” Well, you think congress doesn’t get anything done now, just wait until their entire sessions are taken up with the airing of sins.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
would it be like Festivus
and the Airing of Grievances?
by letsgopsu on Jun 1, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Sorry
Here’s how I read your statement:
They (people who wear religion on their sleeve) are often hypocritial pieces of garbage etc.
Sorry, but as a person trying to do a better job of embracing my faith and sharing it with others so that they see it as part of my identity, to read something like that was discouraging.
I know you well enough to know you would never judge an individual before you got to know them, but it bothers me that that’s your view of openly religious people as a first impression.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm talking about high-profile people, not standard, everyday churchgoers.
If you wrote a wildly popular self-help book about why people should adhere to your moral code and turned out to be a big fraud, that would be a problem.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know what you mean. There is a very prominent pastor here in Houston that likes to tell his 15,000 church members that if they give him more money God will make them rich in return. It’s real hard not to hate the guy. I have to keep telling myself only God knows where his heart is, and one day he will be judged.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
15,000?
Dude, it’s way more than that. Plus he’s not just a Houston pastor, he has a national TV show and crazy best-selling books and….ACK I can’t stand that guy.
Mine too.
And it’s usually, “dude, why did you hide your shoes over here?” or “dude, why don’t you change a diaper once in a while?”. And I’m all “HEY, GET YOUR BITCH-ASS BACK IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME SOME PIE.”
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 14 recs
But seriously, I hide my shoes.
And I don’t know why. I’ll walk in the house, wait ten minutes, decide I want to take off my shoes. Then I’ll kick them off under the table, or in a corner of the room.
The crazy, it’s strong with me.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike doesn't hide them, he just leaves various pair in various spots around the living room and bedroom
So I can trip on them. Seriously his shoes are huge.
I have more shoes than all three boys combined, but at any given time my living room looks like a sock and shoe bomb went off. And they aren’t mine.
My wife calls it the melting snowman
My clothes, socks and shoes included always end up in a pile at various locations in the house.
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Same here
in college I had the dirty clothes pile and the clean clothes pile. Sometimes they got too close together so I had to give the sniff test to see which pile the article of clothing belonged on. Now that I own a house, I’ve managed to cut down on this somewhat.
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I did the sniff test on my shirt I wore to work today
before going to my grandson’s 5th grade band concert. My wife asked if I wiped my mouth on the shirt, kind of increduously, because I was eating a BLT at the time. I said no, just making sure it didn’t stink since I did physical labor at work today.
My grammer skills need improved.
I would wear a dirty shirt if I knew I was going to do physical labor at work too
and I work with bacteria, so while not physically demanding, it smells like sh*t, so I’d rather not wear a clean shirt while working with the little buggers
It is sort of clear this needs to be rec'd
for various reasons
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That is so wrong!!!
Pie? Have her make something good.
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I bet you like cake. Too bad The Rock only eats Pie.

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Not a very big cake guy.
Prefer it to pie, I guess. But that’s not saying much.
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I understand your reluctance to, but would this pastor’s name happen to sound like Boel Ahsteen?
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
to name names
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
And THIS is why my husband is much better at these sort of discussions than I.
What is UP with being so freakin’ level headed.
see, the problem is while your sample set is really only a handful of people...maybe ONE...
the original comment was super broad, and your following comments weren’t that specific either
You could say that about anything though
Pretty much like pretending the people on Survivior are really surviving
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They are really surviving.
Then again, so am I. So are you. Right now.
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won't you feel like crap when you read Ben's obituary tomorrow?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He posted after I wrote that.
So as of then, he was still surviving.
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A religious man I am not.
But the hypocracy in that statement just made my head ’splode.
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Sounds like you’re the bigot with your intolerance toward religious people.
Make another statement like that and you’re gone.
Everyone else let it go.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, dude.
Honestly, didn’t know I was going to upset so many people. Maybe I’m just insensitive. I don’t want you to think I’m intolerant of religion…I’m not.
After seeing the nuclear fall-out from that one post, i can totally understand why you want it to be avoided. I’ll cool it and try to keep it toned down next time.
Thanks
There are more church going people who consider themselves religious than you probably realize, including me.
What’s funny is that if a church going person does not outwardly display their faith, people say they are a hypocrite for just going through the motions and not acting Christian. But if a Christian does openly express their faith, people call them a bible pushing Jesus freak and look for faults to prove their point.
Christians make mistakes like everyone else. True Christians don’t claim to be perfect. That is the essence of Christianity. But we strive to live to a higher standard, and when we make mistakes we try to own up to them and ask for forgiveness. We shouldn’t judge others for their mistakes, but we often do, and I realize this is a problem with the church. But again, we’re human too.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree that it can be construed negatively either way
I also can see the point that, when somebody in power trumpets their own moral compass, they generally end up having a broken moral compass. Not always but often they have ulterior motives, it’s the nature of the beast.
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The distinction
People who say “follow MY moral compass” usually turn out to be on a moral par with a used car salesman.
People who quote the Bible and say follow God’s moral compass are usually worth listening to.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn't have possibly said it any better
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In his defense
outside of the Jesus stuff, the Bible pretty much is a book on not being a troll.
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by Ben Jones on Jun 1, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Ben's a funny dude.
I laughed hard. “Outside of all that extra weight, I’m pretty thin.”
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
“Outside the fact that I can’t skate, I’m a pretty good hockey player”
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"Outside of my love of Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez, I have great taste in music."
/waits for Fooge
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by Adam Collyer on Jun 1, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Foog is sleeping. He’s on some weird schedule where he sleeps until 4 PM and doesn’t go to bed until 8 AM the next morning. I’ll get an email from him at 6 PM today asking how come he always misses out on the good conversations.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Some weird schedule?
I do believe you mean college.
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by jman07 on Jun 1, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I go to bed at odd hours but Fugi takes the cake
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Slightly worse than my schedule.
I’m sleeping from 4 am to noon
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
I know that schedule quite well actually, haha
Sadly, work hasn’t allowed me to partake in it very often
He's missing out on good conversations
because he’s too busy discussing the meaning of dishonor and success and dirty/clean programs! LOL!
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
by Paige2PSU on Jun 1, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm sure there's a lot of behind the scenes things people don't know about BSD
like jtot’s last name. hehehe
That reminds me of my favorite jesse. quote:
When your having a conversation about music, and one person talking about Merle Haggard and the other is talking about Selena Gomez, it’s best to just end the conversation.
California Cottonfields, blouses.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It is but
the Bible isn’t a book about “Oh look at me, I’m Jesus, aren’t I the coolest guy ever?”
It’s about the message. Jesus is part of the message and yes it isn’t like you can overlook that part. But the Bible is about deeds and being a good person more than it is a tribute to somebody.
I may not have articluated that well, but I’d rather not go derp on this thread.
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ugh
We need to have a talk about the Bible sometime.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like a date
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isn't that frowned upon (at least in Leviticus)?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
by Semicorrect on Jun 1, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Actually I respectfully disagree
The whole Bible IS about Jesus. He IS the message. If you read the whole thing the meta-narrative is pretty clear about that. It’s actually not at ALL about being a good person. Not even slightly.
According to the words of the faith, one becomes a good person by following the teachings of Jesus (It helps that the vast majority of the Bible’s teachings are very much helpful). That’s the simple part to understand. Executing it, of course, is the ballgame.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm
I wanna say you missed the point, but I’m not entirely sure. There is no being a “good person” in the bible.
I'm pretty sure I didn't miss the point.
Especially since I rarely miss the point, I just phrase things badly.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened to only using your chin?
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Never made any such comment.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Bible wasn't about deeds
then why not just make a chapter where Jesus is born, tells everybody who he is, and then we have Easter?
If Jesus just showed up to be Jesus, then what is the point of all the stories he told. It wasn’t like he sat around and was like “Dad said I had to show up for 23 years, so we may as well kill time”
Sure, I’m not supposed to go to heaven if I don’t believe the Jesus stuff, but I don’t think you can do that without the deeds as well. They’re one in the same.
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oh man
I’m thinking we better take this off the blog now. Cuz this needs a lot of clarifying and disagreeing with.
by PSUWifey on Jun 1, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
I think I'd be fine with that
For some annoying reason, I can’t seem to hang up on BSD today.
/to self: ‘walk away from the fire. walk away.’
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
I'd rather not have that conversation on twitter
because I’d lose all 473 of my followers.lol
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Ok, I got the discussion going.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we agree more than you think
I just don’t like going into great detail about it in the middle of BSD
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Fair enough
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If y'all are gonna talk religion then we'll be talking politics next
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by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea why
but when I read “tribute to somebody” I thought of Tenacious D’s Tribute. My mind works in mysterious ways.
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Hahahaha
And when you said that last bit I immediately thought of the U2 song AND the Bible verse about God’s ways being mysterious. At the SAME TIME. :)
now MY mind is officially blown.
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The GREATEST SONG IN THE WORRRLLLLDDD
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by Ben Jones on Jun 1, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think some of it,
is also about agriculture.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget the part about not having sex with a woman when she’s on her period. That’s like the 11th Commandment or something.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
But it's cool to marry your relatives
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People are now looking into my office,
wondering why I’m obviously stifling laughter.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor Mike moved from an office on the 17th floor with a view of downtown
to a stinkin’ cubicle in an industrial park. He can’t even talk to me on the phone normally anymore.
But he’s working in the field this week.
And by "field" you mean "dimly lit basement in his pajamas".
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny you say that
I haven’t gotten an answer yet, but why are there no basements in the south, an area that has tornado issues, yet the north, where tornados are scarce, all have them?
Awesomer up north.
Speaking of, Boston on tornado watch right now. Weird.
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I will tell you if I see one out the window.
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aren't you in the city limits?
They are in Weymouth. They have 3 acres of woods too. Those do not fair well even in really viscous storms without tornados.
Weymouth is very close.
Although suffolk county (Boston) is listed in the watch, it sounds like the cape to the south shore are pretty safe.
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1928?
It’s practically new.
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indeed, and sitting on prime property
Unless I happen to find a reason to live there, I can’t wait to sell that house. It’s a beautiful vacation spot but totally impractical from Texas.
I'm moving to Norfolk County soon.
Much more inland, but I also have friends who just bought in Weymouth.
I find it difficult to believe someone would sell up here and, you know, stay in Texas. But anyway.
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Actually
that’s one of the events that would lead to us moving back to PA. Them dying (inevitable in a few years since they are 92) and my selling their houses, plural. We aren’t moving back at least while they are alive, we moved here in large part to look after them. (but then of course, they ditch us every summer for Boston!)
Wow!
Summers in Boston, winters in Texas. Sounds like they are doing great for 92!
I wish them many years of continued health and happiness. A very good reason to go somewhere, also. I’ll let Texas slide. Moving back to PA instead of up here will be unforgiveable, when it happens. But cross that bridge when we come to it.
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PA winters are bad enough.
I love me some Boston (spent EVERY summer in that Weymouth house) but I’m getting quite used to the weather down here.
I can't stand how hot and humid summers
are up here. Love falls though. It does not get better than Oct-Nov-Dec in NE.
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too cold for me
October is nice though. I remember one Oct. week in HS driving from Boston (interviewing at MIT) to State College (official PSU honors program visit). Man the foliage along that drive was incredible.
You and your husband are both sorely lacking in hardiness. Maybe you should stay down there if you can’t take the glorious adversity of the North.
Yeah.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I couldn’t be paid to live in NY, MA, NJ, MD, OH, CT, RI (Toxic business enviroment galore!), and probably VT. Period.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that many would it admit it,
but it’s different from how it was 20 years ago. You need look no further than Ted K’s old seat.
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but we're talking about someone who was conservative
before he moved to TX, and now his ideas have only been encouraged to grow by all the locals.
Well, I don't want to get political
But one man doesn’t change the tax situation and everything, he doesn’t change the attitude, and, really, Scott Brown isn’t like Ronald Reagan or Robert Taft. In fact, I think Specter may have been as conservative/libertarian as Scott Brown.
But it’s really the atmosphere that bothers me more than anything.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Please don’t. I like to enjoy my beer. Wait until I’m done drinking it to ask me.
Though I’m proud to say I never voted for Arlen Spector.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Woah woah woah.
I said different. That is a pretty significant difference. It was directed at Wifey, since she used to spend summers here. You have to know the starting point to know what a change that is.
Also, we have a flat tax at the state level. The surrounding (non-NH) states are much worse.
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I was once standing at a gas station at CT when a guy originally from CT but living in GA or somewhere like that pulled up and exclaimed “Holy shit!” at the tax-inflated gas prices.
The tax-inflated gas prices probably paid for their nice roads, but, c’mon, CT, no one wants to stay in your state for long, so why bother with nice roads.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I loved in Stamford for a time.
CT is HORRIBLE. It’s not NE, it’s the tri-state area.
CT gets no federal highway money because they won’t pass open container laws. So gass and toll prices are absurd.
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ACCCCCCKKKKKK!
*lived in Stamford
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We have one too, until 8pm tonight
Something scary is going to happen. It’s crazy hot, the wind is blowing and the sky looks funky
Possible reasons:
1) Because we’re smart and they’re not.
2) Because shut up, that’s why!
3) It’s all Abraham Lincoln’s fault.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Elevation, water table being high, soil is different
Something along those lines. Oh and no deep freezes makes foundation issues different.
Every time I ask someone this I get a different answer, but they all make sense.
What I don’t know though, is why master bedrooms are all on the first floor in Texas houses.
All of the above
There’s no frost line down here, so you can build a house on a concrete slab. Plus, any hole you dig in Texas just fills up with water when it rains.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Curious again
Do you happen to know the “cut-off” for areas that can handle basements then? This is just my curiosity, no other reason I’m asking.
I think it just depends on the building codes. Some states mandate all foundations go below some predetermined frost line. Other’s don’t. It may be determined by county building codes for all I know.
I’ve only lived in Texas a few years, but the few times I’ve asked why there are no basements the frost line and flooding are the two reasons provided.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you're too close to the water in Houston.
Some places in the South have basements. Here in Birmingham, where it is pretty hilly, a lot of homes have basements. My house in Atlanta also had a basement. My house in Virginia Beach did not (obviously). My current house doesn’t, but many homes in my neighborhood do.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
Ah, so my other impression was right.
Texas is a horrible place filled with Texans, I repeat, Texans. Texicans. Texas was brought into the Union by the slave states and this along with the unjust war of conquest fought against Mexico led directly to the Civil War, to the “inevitable conflict” as Grant put it. Aside from oil, it is a place filled with Texicans and nothing else.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
We’re horrible. Please kick us out of the Union. Please?
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're not a Texan or a Texian or a Texican.
You’re a Pennsylvanian, buddy boy.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
keep reminding him of this
there are one or two events which will happen which could very easily mean us moving back to PA. Just gotta hold out till then.
Please say it's "giving Texas back to Mexico".
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
There is only one war in American history that I truly consider unjust: The Mexican War. Not even Vietnam compares. I wouldn’t be as sure of this statement as I am if I didn’t have the words of a Mexican War veteran, Union general, and U.S. President on my side (Grant), but I do.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If Polk had focused on the northern border instead,
we’d have Vancouver right now, instead of Texas. Man, did he screw the pooch on manifest destiny.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and they have oil there too. Stupid Democrats of the 1840s, curse you.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I always was curious about Grant's stance on Vietnam
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha!
No, I’m speaking of having the complete financial independence to be able to move back to the land of crazy taxation and expensive houses.
You cannot escape taxes forever.
They will reach you eventually. I guarantee it.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But there's a reason the economy in TX continues to boom
and everywhere else it is sucking wind. There’s a reason we can live on half our income down here, at least for now (gas prices are NOT helping).
I'm always shocked when I see how much house $250,000 can buy down there.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm shocked at what I can buy in PA for that amount
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by Mr. Rosewater on Jun 1, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Silly RUTS.
250k can’t buy a house.
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I've been watching the wrong HGTV shows, then.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
My mother constantly watches House Hunters International. Where do they find people with that much money? Do they have a money store I don’t know about?
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
My probation won't allow it.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I won’t move out of the 717 unless I join the military or get offered 500 billion dollars.
Also, my soul will remain here – watering the corn and dropping Gs while speakin’.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I seriously try not to let my wife
watch them. She sees the prices and size of the houses and gets so upset.
I try to remind her that you would have to live in Texas though. She was not born of this country, so it usually does the trick.
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I sometimes wonder if I’m one of the few Americans left who distrusts everything about Texas. Well, there’s my grandfather who hates everything about the South because of the time Alabama had fans on the sideline and PSU didn’t (This is his idea of injustice, bless him), but that’s one guy.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
coldwellbanker.com has a tool that you can use to compare home prices in various markets (I won’t link but it is still shameful promotion of the brand that pays me). You can get plenty of house for that in Detroit!
when the market is so bad
that people are starting up FARMS on the land in Detroit…well, just wow.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Florida back to Cuba
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Give Northern Florida to Alabama, sink Central Florida into the ocean, and let South Florida form an independent nation.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't born in Texas
But I got here as fast as I could.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Enjoy your sandy water.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Enjoy your taxes and double digit unemployment. Maybe you can some day take a government sponsored vacation to Altoona.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
At least my, nay, our (You can’t escape it, your mind and body is ours) state entered the Union properly, pal.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
What really annoys me about Texas and states like Florida and MS though, is that while no state truly could secede after the Constitution was ratified and, in particular, amended (Making the colonies states), places like the above mentioned states were not like the Thirteen Colonies (The Founding Fathers were imperfect and, as men bound by their time like all men, they didn’t know what was going to happen as a result of their actions). They were brought into the Union by the blood, sweat, and toil of American soldiers and by American money. So, no, you especially never had a right to secede, you dumb Texicans. And even if you aren’t complaining about it now, the fact that you ever complained about it makes me angry.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd move to Austin
it’s one fine town.
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by Mr. Rosewater on Jun 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
it is a nice town indeed
but it doesn’t have anywhere near the stuff to do, culture, dining, etc that Houston does.
I have several friends who live in Houston
two couples recently relocated from Atlanta for work. Both really like it. It is just too hot for me.
And hold on now
Time for a history lesson. We didn’t “conquest” Mexico. Mexico had a problem with Indians killing their farmers. The northern part of Mexico, modern day Texas, was the agricultural center of the country. It provided the food for the densely populated area of Mexico City. But the Indians were killing their farmers up North. So the Mexicans opened up the border to allow American settlers to come in and work the land. Americans flooding the border to get into Mexico. Think abou that one a bit.
Anyway, after a decade or so the Americans had “erraticated” the Indian problem if you get my drift, and all was peaceful. But then the Americans wanted to grow cotton because that was a much more valuable crop. Mexico needed the food, so they tried to force the Americans to grow food for them. The Americans, who now vastly outnumbered the native Mexicans in northern Texas, fought for and won their independence. They started out as their own country, and then petitioned and joined the USA.
We fought for our indendence once. We’ll do it again.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Indendence is a powerful thing
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Dang
I really had that rant set up for a powerful finish too.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if it's creepy to rec that
so I’ll just LOL out here in the open
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I know what you're trying to say
You’re trying to say “Aww yea, that’s it.”
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
And I really hope
That you’re quoting Flight of the Conchords otherwise my quote is that much creepier.
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
It's a good story though
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Please don't get BSD shut down by the Department of Justice.
It’s all I have at work.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Uh, you’re confusing the Mexican War (Halls of Montezuma, Generals Scott and Taylor) with the Texas-Mexico war (San Jacinto and Sam Houston). I don’t care about the Texian-Mexican War. When I speak of unjustice, I speak of America fighting a war against Mexico for the main driving factors of the institution of slavery, the political benefit of the Southern-dominated Democratic Party (Seriously, even during the war the administration was trying to play Scott and Taylor against one another because they were both Whigs), and the political benefit of the South itself. The war should not have been fought and Texas should have entered the Union in such a way, if at all.
The Mexican government wasn’t great people, and I won’t pretend as though every Texian was an evil slave-whipping son of a gun, but let’s be real here: that war shouldn’t have been fought.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, that's awful grammar.
Sorry, I was in Texas mentally there for a second.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Here here.
Impeach Polk!
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Death to the Copperheads!
McClellan is a shirker!
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Mrs. and I already have decided that
if she has a fellowship offer from TX, we’re there. I’ve seen 3,000 square feet for less than 200K. And on a decent acreage lot. Go for the cheap stuff, stay for the cheap stuff.
"Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!"
It's good to get the engineers involved
I'm your late night evening prostitute
by Frank O'Brien on Jun 1, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
a Frosty line would have been better than
banana peel, turnstile, traffic cone, stop sign and whatever the other was. Wish I wasn’t so lazy, I would make a Frosty line.
My grammer skills need improved.
it would be quite effective
since what defensive player would go past that line? I mean free Frosties, right? (and then we could report their NCAA violations as well)
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what’s worse: that or the sweet tea. Probably the no basement thing. I’ll always remember the nice big house some of my relatives had down South with everything one could expect except for A BASEMENT WHEN YOU LIVE IN TORNADO ALLEY AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
thankfully we don't live in tornado alley
but after last week I can’t believe they don’t build more tornado shelters in homes.
Or just shelters around town that you can get to when you need it
You can still see bomb shelter signs in some parts of Scranton, so we have some protection.
people would really have to take the tornado warnings seriously for that to happen
and move towards the shelter well before any tornadoes actually come near. After reading that Alabama story about the guy with his girlfriend and 2 dogs…ugh.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, sorry if that came across in an abrasive manner.
I don’t want you to think I’m not religious…I go to Church on Sundays and am God-fearing. I even wear a gold cross (noticably smaller than the 4-pounder wrapped around T. Pryor’s neck). My post was more directed to the people that I would classify as those who use religion as an excuse or a cloak…not just Christians, but those of any religion.
I would lump Tressel in this category. The story about him reading Scripture in the morning and then fixing the football camp raffles in the afternoon blew me away. That’s the kind of bigotry I was referring to.
Reading my post over again, it probably should have been rephrased or qualified in a more definitive light. I haven’t seen this type of anger since the Pitt-PSU thread.
The raffle thing blew my mind too. I can't even fathom it
"I want to be remembered as an ambassador of Penn State University. I want people to remember me not only athletically but for my character too. It’s important that I play well, but I want people to remember me for who I was as a person." ~Silas Redd
we already spend our disgust on those other topics.
This was the only “new” thing, and it spoke volumes on his character.
I wonder, did Jim Tressel ever help with the Special Olympics (like Joe Paterno does)? Would anyone put it past him rigging that, as well?
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knew this was based on Jim Tressel

"I want to be remembered as an ambassador of Penn State University. I want people to remember me not only athletically but for my character too. It’s important that I play well, but I want people to remember me for who I was as a person." ~Silas Redd
Nobody, I certainly hope,
would judge you for not being religious. You are every bit as entitled to not believe that as you are to believe it. People are just not fans of the generalities.
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Well...
I go to the bathroom and come back and you’ve all made a mess of the place..
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Isn't it your fault for going to the bathroom?
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Apparently
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It's totally your fault.
You suck and your humor no longer entertains me, it sickens me.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
my humor never entertained you
you just laughed because I was trying.
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I realize now that I was laughing at your expense.
So, now I am sickened both by myself and by your pathetic attempts to make someone laugh.
Ugh, just your stench, your avatar, your everything makes me want to stab myself in the eyes.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe if you cut your fingers off
then I wouldn’t have to read your stupid comments.
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t9isw commrent was ritten with my nose
ti8s a very time conjsuming procss but with poractice I’ll make it ok and not give myusaelf an eye b condition.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is the 2nd time you've written with your nose.
Or maybe the other time was your elbows or chin? I don’t remember.
"I want to be remembered as an ambassador of Penn State University. I want people to remember me not only athletically but for my character too. It’s important that I play well, but I want people to remember me for who I was as a person." ~Silas Redd
Oh, I've done the nose before.
Let’s try elbow.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
m\/p;y ass egffgrecvtyov
That did not work.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This sound you hear
is me trying not to say something.
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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See, you put together some surprisingly thought-provoking commentary on pandas,
then you go and do something like this.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
What happened to 'Everybody else, let it go?'
I used to love when No Religion and No Politics were more adhered to at BSD.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
party pooper.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you partying?
Cuz partying goes with sports blogs.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
Shut up, you stupid tomcat!
Mike’s involved in this debate, so I’m taking his side and getting brown all over my posting nose.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No YOU SHUT UP
Location, location, location.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
SHUT YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO ME!
"I want to be remembered as an ambassador of Penn State University. I want people to remember me not only athletically but for my character too. It’s important that I play well, but I want people to remember me for who I was as a person." ~Silas Redd
Like that one guy when I posted about Osama
had a history of 5-10 posts and showed up just to say he doesn’t like these sorts of conversations.
Hello sir, if you’re out there reading this.
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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So you're saying,
that jtot wants the terrorists to win?
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw jtothep.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
You're a pussy
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
You're Irish.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You're a coward
Who can’t fight his own battles.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
So you're Irish
and Rambler’s French. Got it.
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by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I'm lazy.
Which means I’m an Italian Italian, not a Paterno Italian.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And you're a terrible wrestler too.
Admit it.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
My 0-12 record would wipe the mat with your dumb ass
And YOU know it.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
Even at 0-12, that's 12 more starts than me
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You're a Buckeye.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
You're really a Buckeye.
And that is greater than any insult anyone could ever bestow upon me.
Dumb Buckeye.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't understand- you're an honorary Buckeye.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
by Semicorrect on Jun 1, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm coming after you with jtot's shillelagh
Faugh a ballagh!
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, buddy
/sidles up
Whatcha drinkin?
/buys the buckeye a beer
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
Done
Barkeep! 3 4Lokos and 3 shots of absinthe, please.
Now, about this ramzy fellow. How long you been reading him? Secondary question while our drinks are comin, do you think Tyler T is intentionally using ‘vindicative’ as a new word he’s interesting in having meme’d?
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
No it won't, and the ban is stupid
That psychoactive compound that got absinthe banned is called thujone from a plant called Wormwood that absinthe is brewed with, but I just looked it up and there have been studies analyzing the levels of thujone in old bottles of absinthe, and the concentration was extremely low. You’re more likely to get visions from the high levels of alcohol (via wiki, absinthe is 45-70% ABV) before you had any effect whatsoever from the thujone.
But nevertheless, people freaked out (much like the Reefer Madness propaganda films of the earlier 20th century that portrayed potheads as blood thirsty animals who would go on violent rampages because of the weed), and now the traditional brewing of absinthe with thujone in it is banned, so like JNitt said, it’s not real absinthe.
And no, I don’t know this because I’ve drank absinthe (although I am curious about trying new types of alcohol), I looked up some of this info, and I’m a science nerd and am really interested in the toxicology of compounds that come from plants. I’ve always found it fascinating how plants have evolved to produce these pretty complex chemicals that can really F you up.
by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 2, 2011 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I've had "American" absinthe before, and I'm assuming it tastes similar to regular absinthe
and it tastes pretty much like black licorice. If you’ve ever bitten into a fennel/anise seed…well that’s the flavor (which makes sense since I’m also pretty sure absinthe is made with fennel/anise.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 2, 2011 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Odd that you say black licorice
A friend of mine just turned 21 and had this exotic shot poster, and bot Samboca, which smelled and tasted just like black licorice. Even Jaeger has a licorice type flavor (when I mixed it with pepsi one time, it tasted like root beer, which was awesome)
I am not a fan of black licorice.
I am especially not a fan of that really “popular” Swedish candy that tastes like salty black licorice. That was about the only bad thing about having a hot Swedish au pair growing up.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 2, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
you've hurt my feelings :'(
As for expectations of women, I’m not sure what you guys think my expectations are, but honestly, after the women I’ve been with, been friends with, and had friends dated/married, my expectations truthfully aren’t very high ;-p
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ive had both....
and yes they taste similarly…. and while i didnt get any visions off the real stuff… it was definitely different in how it made you feel…
the real stuff kinda got me all tingly… and there is no better way to explain it
JoePa – coaching PSU 140 Characters at a time
/shoots rambler evil eye
/downs a shot and a beer and wipes remain spittle from corner of mouth in utter disgust in his direction.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
Well, shucks
Already lost my new drankin buddy. Guess that’s what I get for Mean Drankin. And would you smell that stank? Cube lady just smeared a bucketful of fresh stankass lotion all over and it’s permeatin all my O2. Guess that solidifies my Next Steps plan: make like the old WWF and get the F out.
Get home and play with my tots and turn this frowny day upside down.
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
Just remember what the Hag said in his best dranking song:
Memories and drinks don’t mix too well
Buckeye faithful don’t play those wedding bells
Or something.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
/stirsfromunderthetable
don’ stop Woody you keep smashin’ it til it breaks!
/passesoutagain
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
by Semicorrect on Jun 1, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Natural Light?
Did the grocery store run out of gallons of water?
"Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!"
Nope, but it had plenty of urine lying around
That is an ingredient in Natty light right?
by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 2, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, you kids
I just try to get some sleep and everyone starts pulling each other’s hair.
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You're not even the one getting double-teamed by the one-two Hubbell punch
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by BlueWhiteLife on Jun 1, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
late to the party and no time to read all these comments
so sorry in advance if this has been said but I believe that this clearly states what type of “legacy” DC17 left behind
I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.
by psupride on Jun 1, 2011 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
- with your there!
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Jun 1, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, perhaps if the majority of comments in this thread had ANYTHING to do with the story
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
are you saying there were 100s of comments
all on a tangent that had nothing to do with the story? UNPOSSIBLE
I wouldn’t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.
The whole system of NCAA..
athletics is a sham and a joke. Ohio State broke the rules and should be punished, but the system is a farce. It exploits “stu-dent ath-o-letes”, many of whom, in football and basketball, are poor and African-American. For most of the BCS conference teams, football and men’s basketball are multi-million dollar business. It is not surprising that people would spend thousands to chase millions.
I am epic win.
I AM working.
Whatcha talkin’ about? I just designed three wastewater plants while having this discussion.
But I have asked the same thing, especially what with all the LAWYERS here. Billing hours to chat on BSD.
Your tax money paid for this conversation.
YOU’VE ALL BEEN BILLED.
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I look forward to threads like these.
And since I own my own company, I don’t even feel bad about spending the last two hours here.
But i’ll pass on your wastewater plant design. :o)
Owning the company rocks.
Which is why I don’t feel bad about being here either. And in five minutes I’m off to do the real work when my son gets home from school.
HA
I don’t have a job right now. Showed you!
/cries self to sleep
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm on paternity leave.
I am epic win.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jun 1, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
if you want something fun to do. Go to the top of this thread and hold down the “scroll/page down” button. This thing is long
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And full of despicable Texans and men like jtot who won't deny being Irish.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
No subject line, in reverse commandment of ATO’s important formatting policy!

jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
by jtothep on Jun 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
So you actually are Irish, huh?
What’s your last name? O’Paddy, O’Howilovebriankelly?
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Good.
His name has got to be Johnston Patrick O’Howilovebriankelly.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Excuse me
Johnston Padraig O’howilovebriankelly
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
McBeatYourAssCuzYou'reStillAPussy
jtothetweet
Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
Ah, Scottish.
The prefix means you’re a son of Clan BeatYourAssCuzYou’reStillAPussy. Their feud with Clan Cameron of Lochiel is still talked of today.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Can be both.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd for Guinness
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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Seriously though
My z button doesn’t work. This is a mess. Only sheer guts and a will to win will enable me to follow the comments.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It only works when someone posts a new comment while I'm browsing the thread.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm in the same boat
I think it’s something to do with the browser. Are you using Internet Explorer too?
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike..
I have that issue with IE and Google Chrome.
I am epic win.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jun 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
I’ve told the SBN technical guys about it twice in the past. They think I"m crazy.
by BSD on Jun 1, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks..
it’s odd. I don’t have the technical understanding to figure it out.
I am epic win.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jun 1, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Go to firefox.com.
Click download.
Penn State: Spurn the Big Ten; reclaim your football independence.
by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've had issues with firefox in the past...
not a fan.
I am epic win.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jun 1, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
For reals?
That’s weird.
Sorry for the snark, by the way. I was going for comic effect.
Penn State: Spurn the Big Ten; reclaim your football independence.
by Illegal Formation on Jun 1, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
it completely crashed on my old computer and I could never get it to work again.
Don’t worry about the snark. I enjoy it.
I am epic win.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jun 1, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I use firefox for the sole purpose of reading BSD with Z-key-ability
Most everything else I use other browsers, but I’ve never had a Z-key failure since switching to reading BSD on firefox.
My previous solution was to just leave the large threads open in their own tab so that eventually someone would comment and re-enable the Z key, but that got to be a bit ridiculous and too luck based.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't had that problem is quite awhile
and I’m on Chrome. Used to love Firefox till I got some kind of virus. Chrome works beautifully.
I have that at work
when I have to use IE. At home, on firefox, I have no such issue.
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None of this surprises me.
Microsoft: “We cover up our fairly shoddy worksmanship by being pretentious.”
Apple: “We cover up our own fairly shoddy – OOOH, LOOK, SHINY.”
Bah to all of them. And, no, I don’t want Linux.
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by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
People in south central PA use Packard Bells.
Packard. Bells.
"Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!"
Must be hard typing one letter at a time.
"Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!"
by MainLion on Jun 1, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Wrong, as per usual.
We use sundials.
Oh, and enjoy Texas, you douchebag rebel traitor.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Netscape is the answer to all your problems.
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
by Semicorrect on Jun 1, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Same, except I use Chrome at home.
And the no-Z issue only happens on random threads to me on IE, not all of them.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
Still having no issues w/ Chrome
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
Yup.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Same for me
at makes reading these threads at work that much harder.
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
I have been doing that since I got
a new computer. I can’t figure it out for the life me.
I am epic win.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jun 1, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I always get sad when a thread has been closed
because then the Z key doesn’t work for it anymore and I have to, gasp, use the down button. It usually takes me a while to figure out, and I’m always worried that I am getting that old IE Z-key bug.
by The JuggerNitt on Jun 1, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I never even knew about the Z button until just now
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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Where have you been?
It changed my life.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 1, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It just changed mine
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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Read this
http://news.hooptimeonline.com/post/6036302448/penn-state-would-be-foolish-to-not-talk-to-flannery
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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I've burned enough time here.
You all did a solid, solid job today.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
Thanks coach
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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since this thread is already full of the usual BSD tangents that I have come to know and love so much...
….and the BSD community has many well travelled folk, here’s another tangent:
I’m leaving tomorrow for Hong Kong for vacation for 8 days…any suggestions, tips, must see’s, must avoids?
North Korea
I’d avoid that
What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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by Ben Jones on Jun 1, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
This does however conflict with my theory that

What does it say that you guys aren't shocked you had 28 players committ major infractions over the past 8 years and your coach did nothing about it?
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I have a friend who grew up there
I wish I had more time to get some info from her. She loves it there, and was there two years ago on her honeymoon
no biggie
I really like “freestyle” vacationing anyway….I rarely get to do it.
wife got knocked up so our vacation later this summer got axed…roped a buddy into goingto Hong Kong and the adventure begins tomorrow
congrats!
assuming it’s yours, I mean. The way you phrased that “wife got knocked up” makes this unclear, so I’m assuming LOL.
A few tips for Hong Kong
- take the Peak Tram up the hill for a cool view, can get a beer up there at Bubba Gump Shrimp Factory of all places
- find some way to get food recommendations you can trust. There’s a lot of damn people there, and browsing by myself sucked, and I missed out on what is advertised as a great food city. It’s also a little tough to know what you’re getting once inside, so take any help you can find
- if you get a ‘massage,’ make sure you know what you yourself are willing to accept and be ready to communicate that assertively. As in ‘no, I do NOT want sex.’ Or, ‘yes, I DO want happy ending.’ For example, that is. Err on the side of your goals’ caution if something like ‘sexy massage’ is offered.
- you can probably get away with not wearing one of those surgical masks when walking around, but I wouldn’t recommend going jogging.
- lastly, avoid the train if the Back Street Boys are playing
Good luck, and have fun.
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Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.
by jtothep on Jun 2, 2011 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wow.
This place sounds like the perfect combination of amazing, terrifying, and germ-infested.
BSD vacation in Hong Kong! Let’s do it!
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 2, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks jtot
my old man took a job there in February, so I’m hoping he’s up to speed on the food.
definitely will do the peak tram
definitely won’t ride with the backstreet boys
won’t be wearing a surgical mask, I figure LA has me pretty adjusted for smog
I can't help but notice
there’s no mention, aye or nay, of the massages.
Well played.
"Sixty feet of bridge I can get almost anywhere. Schmuck!"
by MainLion on Jun 2, 2011 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It just rained so hard I couldn't see out the window.
And now that it slowed, I can see very high windage. Better not knock out my power for the game tonight!!!!!
Also, no ’nados please.
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3/4 inch hail.
Is that big?
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Sounds like everything is losing
the force necessary for a ’nado by the time it gets here. Still might want to make sure they are prepared to head downstairs.
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dude, I doubt I could convince them to head downstairs
I’m not even sure they can physically get down there. He can, but I don’t know about her, and he nearly breaks his neck going down to do laundry. Their basement stairs are so narrow and steep…their cellar really looks like it was build in 1928.
Open thread night!
About anything and everything! I’ll go find a place with A/C and wifi sit there most of the night if we have an open thread.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
sounds good
Mike is out of town. My kids are sick, but not THAT sick. I’m being totally lazy.
My Kindergartner will miss his last day of school tomorrow and I will miss the funeral of a very close friend’s dad. Boo.
If you want to find a place with AC, you'll have to come to Hoboken.
Get it? Yeah, I’m funny.
Not funny like Ben, but it’s 9:30 on a worknight.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
Listen people, this thread has been great, but I won't even be able to open it at work tomorrow.
Anything over 200 comments dreadfully slows down my life, so let’s try to move tomorrow’s convo to the Links thread or something, that way I don’t want to toss my processor out the window. Get it? Got it. Good.
Take a shower, shine your shoes...
Dude, where's PSUinBosston when I need him
it looks to me like Weymouth just got slammed not once but TWICE with severe storms. Is that right? Wondering if I should call and check on them. I normally wouldn’t call this late.
the power of twitter
I just searched “Weymouth” and got lots of reports on how bad the storm was. One guy says he still has Comcast (all they care about is the Bruins) one girl said her lights are out.
Their phone may be out if they don't have an old school one that stays on when the power goes
So don’t freak if you can’t get them right away.
haha I bet they ONLY have old school phones.
I’m more concerned about trees falling into the house or on the car.
Sorry, B's game.
High winds, crazy rain, and some spotty hail. Shouldn’t be anything that impacts them. Depending where they are, might check the tide report.
They’re 92, they probably slept right on through it. If the power was even knocked out, it will be back by the time they wake up.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jun 1, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF exploded on this thread while I was at work?
is there anyway i can redeem myself, i was not sure if i should say "we" at that moment
by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Texas sucks.
"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."
by ReadingRambler on Jun 2, 2011 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I love working noon to midnite
cuz then i miss alllll of this, come home and read it till 2 am. Then I feel weird commenting on stuff that went down 5 hours ago.
i blame Ohio State for my stupid work schedule.
some people get very bent out of shape when you mention them in a comment
when the thread is more than 5 hrs old.
Just sayin’.
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