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In 2006, the auditors' review of athletes' car registration forms found that they were incomplete and sometimes inconsistent with the car registry maintained by University Transportation and Parking. Compliance officials vowed to correct the problem.
But last year, the auditors reviewed car registrations of 152 athletes and observed vehicles driven by football players to spring practice. Auditors found that 44 athletes bought parking permits for, received parking tickets in, or were seen driving cars that weren't registered.
Records obtained in May show that football players continue to submit incomplete forms, lacking sales prices, dates of purchases, co-signers and other required information.

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I'm even going to use the subject line for this one.

I don’t mean to brag, but….

The premise of Jacobi’s post is that this recent scandal “might place the very legitimacy of the compliance department at stake.” Honestly, we’re well past that. They self-report minor violations in order to enhance their credibility, but never get to the root of the problem to prevent them from happening. Then they try retain plausible deniability by feigning confusion. Apparently, it’s been a recipe for success. After all, Jim Tressel beats Michigan.

Buckeyes Are Driven to Embarrassment

Take a shower, shine your shoes...

by Adam Collyer on Jun 3, 2011 11:20 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeppers, you could and did read between the lines

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Yet while Tressel's admirable qualities have been trumpeted, something else essential to his success has gone largely undiscussed: his ignorance.

by jtothep on Jun 3, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read this

this is to the point

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=gallo/110602_coaching_compliance&sportCat=ncf

by bluehenfan73 on Jun 3, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Why are you yelling?

I'm your late night evening prostitute

by Frank O'Brien on Jun 3, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's yelling because it is on point!!

Read the article and tell me you aren’t laughing; then angry at all the lame ass excuses by all the overpaid “public servant” coaches that complain about how difficult their jobs are; then incredulous that the public, in general, buys their lame excuses

The coaches have a full time job of controlling the possible; we all know these are kids; for the most part GOOD kids; but still kids. And they are going to make mistakes; they are going to be tempted and fall; but IF these coaches are serious about the STUDENT part it is not a very difficult job to rule out people/players like TP (how appropriate are those initials?).

We as adults need to allow them to fail so that they grow; but not for blatantly breaking the rules or acting as if they are more important or better than other STUDENTS. So if they get in a fight, or drink before they are 21 or try some weed and get caught, so what? WE weren’t perfect; we tried things as kids we don’t do as adults. And again, if these coaches did their damn jobs these minor issues would be the only thing that could or would cause problems. And I don’t think those are difficult or life altering; they are life lessons.

And your comment about who heads the compliance department (de facto) is correct. He sets the tenor and the tone. And that makes ALL the difference (to quote Robert Frost)

by bluehenfan73 on Jun 3, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

May?!? (How's that for a subject line.)

How had they not gotten their s%#t together by then?

Penn State: Spurn the Big Ten; reclaim your football independence.

by Illegal Formation on Jun 3, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

I gather from this, which I read the entire article on the Columbus Dispatch this morning, that either the compliance dept doesn't communicate with the football coaches or the coaches ignore them.

There is no other answer. Its either, compliance dept: Hey coach, TP’s fourth car this month is not registered and the forms are incomplete. Coach: ah, crap, we are too busy to deal with this
or
Compliance dept: these guys just change cars too often to keep up. Its really not that big a deal, Wooo Beat Michigan!

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Jun 3, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

^^^^ This.

Both the coaches and the staff have to care about compliance. Even then, one determined knucklehead teenager can still cause a lot of pain.

by CvilleLion on Jun 3, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not good news

Well, for Ohio State fans.

For the rest of us…giggity.

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by 06Lion on Jun 3, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Pryor has a lawyer now.

Yesterday he said that he was driving a loaner because his car was being repaired, and he had recieved no special benefit. Seriously. A 2011 300z, as a loaner, to a 21 year old kid. It’s like they can’t even hear what they’re saying at this point.

Our rival is Stanford.

by jesse. on Jun 3, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

He drives a lot of loaners. Every time he gets a ticket he’s in a loaner.

So where’s his real car? If he has a car, it should be in a garage somewhere, right? So let’s see it?

by BSD on Jun 3, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

First question I asked was who is paying his lawyer.

If the lawyer is working for free….“IT’S AN NCAA VIOLATION YOU DUMMIES!!!!!”

Our rival is Stanford.

by jesse. on Jun 3, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was thinking the same

thing when I saw the report yesterday. Viscious. Cycle.

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Jun 3, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

…vicious spelling too…

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

by BlueWhiteLife on Jun 3, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re a lawyer, right? How many Big Ten preseason player of the year awards would it take to acquire your services?

Penn State: Spurn the Big Ten; reclaim your football independence.

by Illegal Formation on Jun 3, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's where the slight of hand is

He could have bought a 94 baby blue Ford Escort back when he started school that’s just collecting dust in a lot somewhere, and the premise all along has been “well your car needs some work here’s a loaner while we fix it, pick anything you want off the lot.” “It’s still not ready, you need to bring that loner back in so we can get it off our books, but just pick another one.”

by millzners on Jun 3, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, for those of you wondering

I googled it, and it’s spelled sleight of hand. You learn something new every day.

by millzners on Jun 3, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s driving….a….submarine!

You can’t see it because it’s underwater!

No, really. I asked Mr. Peezy himself if he could send me a picture of him driving his car. He sent me this:

"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."

by ReadingRambler on Jun 3, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You misunderstood.

He’s driving a loaner while the previous loaner is being fixed.

by CvilleLion on Jun 3, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of like one of those Russian egglady things?

I have to drive this loaner car while that loaner car is being fixed that I needed to drive while the other loaner car was being fixed that was necessary because my other loaner car had to be looked at which was necessary because the other loaner car I had was getting its oil changed which was necessary because I drove it across statelines on a test drive which was necessary because my other loaner car needed some work on its breaks which was necessary because I was busy paying off the original car I bought with tattoos which needed to be paid off with signatures and gold pants. Its really quite simple. Everyone does it.

"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler

by psuphysicist on Jun 3, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

You used a perfectly acceptable grammatical construct?

Penn State: Spurn the Big Ten; reclaim your football independence.

by Illegal Formation on Jun 3, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're on fire today.

Take a shower, shine your shoes...

by Adam Collyer on Jun 3, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

My new course website, BlackBoard Learn,

Has a section called “Needs Grading.” I swear it makes me cringe every time I read it.

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Jun 3, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still sounds wrong to me!

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Jun 3, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Screw you.

"Colonel, I do not care to die, but I pray to God I may never leave this field."

by ReadingRambler on Jun 3, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, like that’s not a Western PA/Southern OH/Ruritania thing. Everywhere we don’t want to be, there it is.

Be the change you wish to see in the world.

by Semicorrect on Jun 3, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you believe his parents (I don't)

it’s a 2007 with 85k miles on it.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jun 3, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should have mentioned,

his mom said the car is hers, she bought a 2007 with 5k miles on it and he had it for the weekend or something. Then his dad said he (TP) traded in his 07 charger for it.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jun 3, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

*85k

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jun 3, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow. That last one.

Just amazing. WOW. Mind blowing.

by PSUWifey on Jun 3, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another classic.

Apparently the equipment manager is to blame.

That’s disappointing and implies our equipment manager is incompetent or corrupt or both. It sounds like he should lose his job. It’s also hard for me to believe that Storm would steal equipment to sell. It is safe to assume if he were caught stealing equipment he would be kicked off the team. Risk vs reward?? Is a couple of hundred bucks worth everything you’ve worked so hard for? Is his finacial situation that bleak?

by CvilleLion on Jun 3, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a culture of honor

Mind your own business, we’ll take care of our own problems, etc. In that sense Ohio State is better suited for the SEC than any other Big Ten school.

by gumbercules on Jun 3, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

So this is totally NOT lack of complete institutional control, right?

Head coach: lied, and attempted to cover it up. AD didn’t ask questions, pretended all is well, and continued to defend the head coach. University president (best case scenario) was completely kept in the dark about something that might destroy the reputation of his school’s athletics department. And now the kicker: the COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT saw lack of compliance, but apparently didn’t realize (or couldn’t read) the department name in front of their own offices, and chose to not do anything about said lack of compliance.

There really weren’t any before, but there are now ZERO rational excuses for saying that this was only Tressel, acting alone. This is a textbook example of lack of institutional control permeating multiple levels and departments within the university, ALL of which could have raised the red flag at any time and brought the hammer down, but chose not to.

IMO opinion, this situation has far eclipsed USC (which I honestly thought would never happen).

by dawsonPSU10 on Jun 3, 2011 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

ABSOLUTELY!

Well said; and now go back and look at what happened at Boise State. I’m no fan of theirs but look at how QUICKLY and DECISIVELY they acted re their TENNIS TEAM situation. And the NCAA (the folks in the clown suits!!!!) hits THEM with Lack of Institutional Control!!!!

This isn’t POTATO/POTATO (you know the thing with how you PRONOUNCE the word); this is comparing a really nice grouper you’d catch for dinner to a great white shark.

OSU (whoever started the tOSU crap is a loser and a bozo) should be HAMMERED!!

by bluehenfan73 on Jun 3, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what grade Archie will get after this is all settled

Archie has been praised by his supervisor for running a tight ship. He received the highest rating – exceeds expectations – during his most recent performance review.

by The JuggerNitt on Jun 3, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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