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Summer Depth Chartin': 2011 Defense


Would it really be summer in Happy Valley without a little depth chart prognostication? I don't think so.

Jeff is going to dive into the offense with Wednesday's Thursday's companion post to this one. Today we'll touch on the defense. Will everything be exactly correct, matching what you'll read on the premium message boards? Of course not. The main reason for that is because I'm not telling you what the depth chart is right now, or even what it will be eventually.

In this post, I'm going to take the best educated guesses I can as to how each position should shake out by the time we see this team take the field. So take a chill pill before you go screaming "OMGZTHAT'S NOT RIGHT!"

Onward!

Defensive Line

Def Line End Tackle Tackle End
Starters Eric Latimore Devon Still Jordan Hill Jack Crawford
Primary Backups Sean Stanley James Terry DaQuan Jones CJ Olaniyan
Reserves Kyle Baublitz Evan Hailes Mikel Berry Deion Barnes or Shawn Oakman

Star-divide

2010 Penn State vs Michigan-39

This unit was devastated last season by injuries, going without two of its most experienced defensive ends--Jack Crawford and Eric Latimore--for huge chunks of the schedule. Compounding the issue was Sean Stanley's behavioral mishaps that caused him to miss a few games. Naturally, that led to the defensive line playing younger and less-talented players. That's not an insult, otherwise they would have been in the starting lineup, no? Now, to this year.

The starters look to be back at 100 percent. Hopefully they can stay that way. Crawford and Latimore are the obvious starters going into fall camp. This group would have been dynamite had Pete Massaro not torn his ACL in the spring. The loss of Massaro will sting a lot, but how much depends on the backups. This is a theme you'll see throughout today's post.

Defensive tackle might be a little better set than the ends, but the loss of Ollie Ogbu leaves one spot open. Now, we were saying the same thing before last year after Jared Odrick graduated. Maybe it won't be so bad, particularly since Devon Still developed nicely into a full-time starter last season, and Jordan Hill will have a year of significant playing time under his belt. Behind them, the James Terry and DaQuan Jones were very raw in 2010. I really like the reliability of Terry against the run, while Jones has pure athleticism. It would be nice to finally see Evan Hailes on the field this season.

As for the freshmen, like Shawn Oakman, Deion Barnes and Jordan Kerner, we'll have to wait and see which one(s) break through to the rotation during fall camp. But I'd bet at least two of them play in 2011.

Linebackers

Linebackers Sam Backer Fritz
Starters Gerald Hodges Michael Mauti Nate Stupar
Primary Backups Mike Hull Glenn Carson Khairi Fortt
Reserves Dakota Royer ??? James Van Fleet

2010 Penn State vs Temple-27

It's really weird that I can't think of who the third middle linebacker will be this fall. Last season, there were at least four guys who could have played the position. But Chris Colasanti is gone. And Mike Yancich was moved to tight end to mitigate the injury issues there. So that leaves us with Mauti as the very obvious starter (and captain candidate?), with Carson his very obvious backup. But who's in reserve? Penn State has been overloaded at linebacker the past few seasons, but this year, one of the spots might have been flushed out a little too much. We'll see where this goes. Regardless, I'm comfortable with the situation at middle linebacker, even if it's just these two guys.

The outside spots are the opposite of the 'Backer lineup. Hull could likely start for more than half the Big Ten defenses, but he'll be behind Hodges this year. Can they possibly split time with Hodges? Yes, but not much. Royer is a defensive end with a linebacker's body. He might get some time as a stand-up defensive end, but that's just one of those spring/summer experiments that we hear about every year. Still, it could happen.

The Fritz linebacker spot has two guys that are remarkably equal in terms of what they bring to the field. Stupar has been a fantastically consistent linebacker for Penn State the last three seasons. He's earned the position, and not because he's a senior this year. Stupar proves his value on the field. But Fortt was sharing time with him in the spring, and definitely has more raw talent than Stupar. Fortt is going to be a true sophomore this fall, but he's about equal with a redshirt senior. I can't talk about the linebackers without mentioning my favorite backup on the team, Van Fleet. It's almost a travesty that this kid hasn't gotten a scholarship yet. He's worked ridiculously hard on special teams and in limited time on defense. Van Fleet scored the game-changing punt block touchdown against Indiana last season.

Defensive Backfield

Secondary CB S S CB
Starters D'Anton Lynn Nick Sukay Drew Astorino Stephon Morris
Primary Backups Derrick Thomas
Malcolm Wilis Adrian Amos Chaz Powell
Reserves Mike Wallace Jacob Fagnano Stephen Obeng-Agyapong Alex Kenney

2010 Penn State vs Michigan-51

It's time to worry about the defensive secondary... in 2012.

This year, though, it's time to get excited. Lynn, Sukay, Morris, Powell and Astorino are all veterans who are very gifted at what they can do together on the field. There's not much to analyze with Lynn, Sukay or Astorino. But it's interesting to see how the other corner spot--the one being fought over by Powell and Morris--has been developing the past few months.

Morris has the flash, but is still honing his skills as a cornerback. He still gets beat occasionally, while regressing a bit last season in his tackling abilities. I do like his chances of locking down the starting role this year, or at least splitting equal time with Powell. Powell, on the other hand, is the guy who hasn't been allowed to settle in anywhere on this team. The coaches had him go from defense to offense, back to defense then offense again, and now finally is stable on defense. He's a really good athlete, who deserves his chance to hunker down and play one position.

The big question mark here is Thomas. He's supposedly back and in good standing with the team. But we know that doesn't mean much when it comes to getting time on the field before one team is up by four touchdowns. Thomas is a great prospect who was able to play right away last season as a freshman. I'd love for him to get time this year as the fourth corner, mostly on 3-CB nickel packages.

Willis started the second half of the season, playing really well down the stretch. I wouldn't be surprised if he is the first safety in line to take the field when Penn State goes with its 3-Safety nickel package.

The rest are what they are. Adrian Amos will be a true freshman, but with the lack of quality depth, he could very well see time early on special teams and in mop-up mode against the Indiana States and Eastern Michigans. And Alex Kenney is listed as a corner on the official roster. I've been calling him a corner for months now. It would make sense for him to start out there until the situation gets fixed lower on the depth chart.

Stay tuned for Jeff's look inside Penn State's offensive depth chart.

[**Damn right I'm going to use my own photos when I can. I didn't do all that work last season for nothing.]

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Since when do we have two safeties?

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by WFY on Jul 19, 2011 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

When your best tackling safety is only the size of Drew Astorino it's hard to call him Hero

Aside from that, this secondary has more depth than any PSU team I can remember.

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by Frank O'Brien on Jul 19, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, pretty deep for sure...

I see really pushing Sukay for the starting spot; if not by game #1, then not too long after (IMO)…

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"Rambler can't have any power" ... He would be a tyrannical wielder of the the banhammer if he did. We couldn’t have: "Oh, you don’t like Iowa – banned." "You don’t like old country guys – banned" "You don’t like corn – banned" or "You’re a dirty rotten southern traitor – banned." It would be pure chaos." - Paige

by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Sukay plays like he did last year, he won't come off the field.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 19, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that I dislike NS

I see Willis with a bigger-upside.

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

...

"...it smells like...victory..." Col. Kilgore

"Rambler can't have any power" ... He would be a tyrannical wielder of the the banhammer if he did. We couldn’t have: "Oh, you don’t like Iowa – banned." "You don’t like old country guys – banned" "You don’t like corn – banned" or "You’re a dirty rotten southern traitor – banned." It would be pure chaos." - Paige

by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 19, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Willis is going to be terrific in the future.

And, even though I think Astorino is solid, if you told me he would play there instead I would agree. I just think Sukay was turning into a special player when he got hurt.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 19, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sukay was holding our defense together in those first few games.

When he got hurt, that’s when things got really ugly.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Jul 19, 2011 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not vs Alabama he wasn't

The rest of the games he was legit, but vs Bama he was rather bad

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jul 19, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

As were the other 10 guys

on that defense. Just sayin’…

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by Mike Pettigano on Jul 19, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He really wasn't that bad aside from a few plays.

"Choosing Penn State over Stanford, my god!!" - rumple

by ReadingRambler on Jul 20, 2011 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, you must have really hated Derek Bochna.

"Choosing Penn State over Stanford, my god!!" - rumple

by ReadingRambler on Jul 20, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Ray Isom, way smaller than Astorino

Isom only weighed around 180, if that and may have been 5’8"

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Jul 20, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love those guys including Astorino

They all play much bigger than their size. If they were built like Michael Zordich or Mark Rubin they may be even better.

Striving for Success with Honor

by Frank O'Brien on Jul 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

At Penn State

the backup Linebackers are better than the starters /Bama’ed

Actually, last year that was true…but this year, I can’t wait for our LBs!

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Jul 19, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Against Bama

I’m wondering if a 4-4 would make sense. Get Fortt on the field. Or perhaps, just have Astorino line up inside the box on most plays. There’s no question in my mind with a young Bama QB that 3 guys in the secondary can handle the job, or more to the point, will have to be able to handle the job in order to give us a chance against the running game.

by PSU Mudder on Jul 19, 2011 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

We have had success stacking the box over the years

And with a new QB and experienced secondary I anticipate more of the same. I expect a much better defensive showing against Alabama this year.

by psu on Jul 19, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Many people are suggesting this, and I completely approve.

Stupar as standup DE, with Mauti, Fortt and Hodges behind. Our LBs are just too good to NOT be on the field.

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by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 19, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

they have a new QB, and lost Julio Jones

does anyone know if they use the screen very much? or if they have a RB/FB/TE that would allow them to use it? I don’t remember seeing it last year, but I didn’t watch them much past our game, or the bowl beatdown.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Jul 19, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they just moved their AA RG to LT

Because the others weren’t getting it done. Hopefully that provides an opportunity for Devon, even though he’s still got one big challenge in Vlachos.

"We're going to do all we can to get this team right, to go after that national championship" - Devon Still

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jul 19, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or perhaps, just have Astorino line up inside the box on most plays

I would argue that the nature of the Cover 3 allows us to essentially play eight in the box at all times. With the FS and two CBs dropping back in the cover zones, the Hero drops down low with the LBs. A lot of people piss and moan about the Cover 3, but it sort of allows us to stop the run and prevent big plays, which are the things you need to do to be a good defense.

As far as the 4-4 goes, the last time I remember that being used extensively was ‘08 Wisconsin, and I’m not sure we’ll see such an unbalanced team this season (though it’s worth mentioning Rubin was practically a fourth linebacker in the ’08 OSU game as well).

by OmarLittle on Jul 20, 2011 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watched that scene through my binoculars in the nosebleeds at Ohio Stadium. What a glorious moment it was…

by OmarLittle on Jul 20, 2011 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Linebackers

I expect we’ll still see Mauti and Stupar in the nickel package. The base 4-3 Fortt will get a lot of snaps in Stupar’s spot.

I’d also guess Hull could fill the Mike spot if necessary, though I’ll bet dollars to donuts that Yancich will be back on defense, mostly wearing a headset on the sidelines.

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by Frank O'Brien on Jul 19, 2011 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Here's some obvious news.....

LBU will only be as good as the DL, especially the DEs, will be. Last year—not so good with injuries and all, but as is always stated, the DEs will have to step up.

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by DerryPharmer on Jul 19, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I really hope Olaniyan and Baublitz come out of nowhere, so to speak, and grab the starting spots by midseason… kinda like Massaro last year. It just feels like Latimore and Crawford have topped out… and their top just isn’t that high. I hope I’m wrong and they kill, but I’m not overly optimistic that’ll be the case.

by BSM PSU 93 on Jul 19, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If these younger guys simply

have the natural instinct to ‘game’ contain…and then shed a block and have good vision – then we will already be better at DE than we were last year.

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

...

"...it smells like...victory..." Col. Kilgore

"Rambler can't have any power" ... He would be a tyrannical wielder of the the banhammer if he did. We couldn’t have: "Oh, you don’t like Iowa – banned." "You don’t like old country guys – banned" "You don’t like corn – banned" or "You’re a dirty rotten southern traitor – banned." It would be pure chaos." - Paige

by BlueWhiteLife on Jul 19, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That HAD to be an assignment issue, right? At least on the read option?

The DE took the RB on the PA every. single. time. No way they bite on that if it isn’t their assignment? Right? Right?

I’m thinking improved backer play makes that a little less obvious. The DE would hammer the RB, and then the QB would go untouched for 10 yards. Mother of pearl don’t let that be the case again this year.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 19, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I know Massaro always went after the RB.

Even against Michigan, when you knew Robinson was going to keep it.

Drove me absolutely nuts watching it. But, players do what the coaches tell em, so, hopefully with superior LB play to fill those gaps, it’s not as big of a deal. I can see the logic behind it, I’d rather have the QB running on me than the speedy RB getting to the outside and turning the corner. Too bad it didn’t work as well in practice.

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by mvrck on Jul 19, 2011 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That *is* what the coaches tell the DEs to do.

That was discussed here last fall and I believe there was even a small news article about it.

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by ReadingRambler on Jul 20, 2011 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then adjustments need to be made

Take a look at the ought-nine MSU game. Sparty put together a couple of solid runs off-tackle when Crawford was crashing down the line and Lee was outnumbered and run over. Scrap made the adjustment and squashed that.

Last year there were too many times when Stanley would lose containment and Bani was no where to be found. This seemed to go on all season long so I don’t think it was an assignment issue.

Striving for Success with Honor

by Frank O'Brien on Jul 19, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO STEPPPING UP!!

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Jul 19, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about just stePPing up?

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Jul 19, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

This post got totally buried by Mornhinweg. So it goes, right?

As some of you pointed out, I wouldn’t doubt seeing Stupar as a stand up DE this year, like Jerome Hayes, Tim Shaw or Derek Wake. Penn State has traditionally done very well with that kind of experiment.

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by Mike Pettigano on Jul 19, 2011 3:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Life ain't fair

Craig James allegedly killed 5 hookers while at SMU, and he’s now a respected analyst for a universally respected sports news organization.

by OctaShields on Jul 19, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

lemme try again

There is a lot of talk going around lately alleging that Craig James killed 5 hookers while at SMU

and now he's a respected analyst for a universally respected sports

news organization

by OctaShields on Jul 19, 2011 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, very good write up

What are you basing the Amos prospect on? I thought SOA showed some promise in the Torrents of Spring, aka, The Blue/White Game.

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by Frank O'Brien on Jul 19, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amos

I’ve heard he’s very mature for his age (true frosh). I like Stephen Obeng-Agyapong a lot. But I had to go with one guy there. SOA should get plenty of time this fall.

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by Mike Pettigano on Jul 19, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defensive Line Play Will Determine the Outcome of This Season

Most blog trash focuses on PSU Quarterbacks. I figure that nobody on PSU’s coaching staff lays awake at night worrying about QB play.

Let’s face it. Good Teams ran the ball, at will, every time the game was on the line last year.
If this team hopes to improve on the 7-6 record, somebody better tackle somebody.
This is the season, in a nutshell.

Last year’s D-Line play was hilarious, if you were a PSU opponent.
I swear that I saw a “Tackle Who Will Remain Nameless” do a spin move that involved rotating 360 degrees without moving forward, resulting in the opponent’s guard standing still in front of him, jaw dropped, and wondering whether he should laugh out loud, or engage him in a block! ( Hint: D Tackle name embedded in previous sentence.)

Let’s hope LJ Sr’s troops show up ready to play this year.

Bama will be a good measurement.

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by joefromboalsburg on Jul 19, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Aahhhh Yes, football season is nigh

Good to see you back Joe. I expect Still and Hill to be improved and solid, the ends need to step up their game.

Striving for Success with Honor

by Frank O'Brien on Jul 19, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he builds on his progress in the bowl game

Still should be a major force this year

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Jul 19, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping that Stanley and Olaniyan get some PT over Lattimore

Lattimore was one of the most ineffective DE’s I’ve seen in a while last year. Usually I’m all for guys that are athletic and have great size, but this time, nope.

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jul 19, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

those are sick pictures

don’t feel the need to justify as if you took them w/a shtty phone camera

the © is a bit large but i don’t blame you for taking credit

i shed a tear when pete massaro when went down in the spring….he was by far this team’s best DLineman in 2010 and probably makes the DE position the most up in the air this year. you could argue for DT b/c of the backups but the point is…i miss pete.

let's go state

by 424E. on Jul 19, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks.

I’m going to really miss Massaro this season.

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by Mike Pettigano on Jul 19, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a simple Canon 50D w/70-300 lens for the close-ups

There’s no way I can get any of the Mark models. I’d have to sell my car. And that’s just for the body. The lens would be my wife’s engagement ring. Not sure she’d be okay with that.

Come to think of it. I’m not sure I’D be okay with that.

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by Mike Pettigano on Jul 19, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They really are

awesome pics. Great work.

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by SarcasmJam on Jul 20, 2011 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with all the picks except for one/two

I think Powell will get the starting nod over Morris. He said coming in that he preferred defense and honestly, I think he’s just a better corner than Morris.

Secondly, if it’s a toss-up between Stupar and Fortt, I think it will shake out like you have it, but I like Fortt above Nate. As was said in the comments above, though, Nate would make a great stand-up DE during the time he wasn’t playing LB.

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by Dan Vecellio on Jul 19, 2011 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

re: Powell

I think whether he starts or not will more likely depend on his off-the-field behavior.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Jul 19, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't think there was a problem with him.

Am I forgetting something?

This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.

by Paige2PSU on Jul 20, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing official

just rumblings

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Jul 20, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Stupar/Fortt

It will be Nate’s to lose, and barring a horrendous camp, he should be the starter on opening day. But I expect to see a HEALTHY dose of Fortt (not to mention Hull).

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by Jeff Junstrom on Jul 20, 2011 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said it before the change in administration in another post

but Hull has the upper body of Mauti already (as a RS Fr), and while he’s a bit short for the prototypical PSU LB, the kid looks like a physical beast.

by dawsonPSU10 on Jul 20, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always been fond of Stupar's play

He did nothing last year (well, nothing that anyone else on the defense didn’t also do) to warrant losing his job this year. And unless Fortt magically morphed into the next Lavar, Stupar’s not going anywhere.

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by Mike Pettigano on Jul 20, 2011 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

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