Remember Big Ten Division Still Must Go!!!
Without a doubt the Big Ten front office is sitting slight hoping that all the fans and all the media forget about the debacle that unfolded after last year around the division names and focus on something else (like NCAA violations).
Well, I don't know about you but time is not something that will heal what is wrong with "Legends and Leaders." It's not innovative, it's a mockery. I urge all to not forget how much we collectively hated this idea. Once the 2011 season approaches let them hear it again. The Big Ten tried to be unique and came off pompous and arrogant. They avoided the expected geographical organization because it wasn't perfect. NEWSFLASH!!! The Dallas Cowboys are in the NFC East and tell me who cares? Furthermore, the new PAC 12 alignment has Stanford in the North division while... wait for it... Utah and Colorado (I'm pretty certain are further North than Palo Alto) are further North. Most people probably didn't even notice and why, because it's not a big deal. No one is talking about it. Everyone is too busy talking about how stupid the Big Ten division names are.
Get the petitions out!! I was born and raised in Big Ten country, I'm an alum of Penn State, I love my conference, and I refuse to be the laughing stock of the college football landscape.
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Mandel is against the Big Ten Division names
Jim Delany is for them. ARE YOU WITH MANDEL OR DELANY?
is there anyway i can redeem myself, i was not sure if i should say "we" at that moment
by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you would choose Mandel over Delany in any matter whatsoever
any recommendation you have is suspect
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by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please.
Even Ohioans generally aren’t this delusional.
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 9, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Ohisians
is, I believe the correct derogatory term for those to the immediate west of PA… or perhaps Flatlanders
Still searching for posters from 1986
tSOW?
Cory Geiger asks Paterno if talk about his future bothers him. "You bother me," Joe tells Geiger.
this is funny
as my grandson asks if the pigs along Porter Rd, on our way into the parking lots, are OSU fans that couldn’t find their way home the last time they visited, I don’t know where he got that idea.
My grammer skills need improved.
by BMAN13 on Jul 12, 2011 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, well
SOW is School out West. Like OSU calls Michigan tSUN
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I'm sure you're right
What do I know about anything, except I give Mandel the slight edge in the battle of who’s haricut I’d rather have. But whatever, lets not confuse the issue, Legends and Leaders still sucks.
I honestly liked the names :/
"Go to Hell, Michigan Football"
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jul 9, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions
How could you like them?
I’ve never actually heard anyone say they like them. Please explain.
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 9, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Find me 2 better division names
Geography would be messed up, pick 2 coaches from the Big Ten history and you’re screwing many others, I’ve seen alpha/omega and that would be neat, but really, Legends and Leaders might’ve been the best we had.
"Go to Hell, Michigan Football"
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jul 10, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
THE MASON AND TILLER DIVISIONS
We’re both thoroughly meh
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by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Others, and what they say
The Bump and Cooper divisions: We’re not bad, just bitterly disappointing.
The Lynch and Brewster divisions: We will scream until conditions improve
The Barnett and Bruce divisions: We will GTFO on mysterious terms
The Osborne and Tressel divisions: Pay no attention to the facts. We’re good men!
The Fry and Engle divisions: This is ReadingRambler’s conference, we’re all just here for the ride
is there anyway i can redeem myself, i was not sure if i should say "we" at that moment
by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Delany gave you some purple drank, huh?
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 10, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I personally liked Where's Wisconsin?
and Why the Hell is Wisconsin Here? Divisions. We could call them the WW and WHWH Divisions.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
Realistically: Stagg and Berwanger . Two Big Ten legends that were associated with U. Chicago — so you aren’t offending or highlighting any particular current school.
Other than that, I haven’t really seen any suggestion that is better than Legends and Leaders, really. Most other ideas are just are silly or just as nonsensical or would be specific to certain schools (and offend others) as you’ve mentioned.
Bo and Woody.
/trollface
Be the change you wish to see in the world.
Agreed.
I am on board with these. So if there is a petition should we petition that petition?
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jul 10, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm all for it!
"Go to Hell, Michigan Football"
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jul 11, 2011 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you feel about frilly toothpicks?
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by skarocksoi on Jul 12, 2011 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well then this meeting is adjourned
spread the word on menus nationwide
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by skarocksoi on Jul 12, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Does it really matter?
They could call them the crappy and cheaters divisions as long as we get to watch some football in septmber.
3 divisions!
Crappy: Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue, Illinois
Cheaters: OSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin
BHGP alliance: PSU, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska
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by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cheaters? Wisconsin?
Oh, this should be good. Remember, you kinda beat our asses with Morelli (that should be proof of how BAD the 07 team was).
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 9, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Poorest fit of any of them
I justified it with BB’s adventures in exploiting bad, made-for-tv-not-for-football clock rules in 06
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by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...no.
I think BB intentionally threw the 09 Iowa game with crappy defensive calls. You could say that he’s definitely a BHGP-alliance member…
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jul 9, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
You might be onto something
switch around Northwestern and Wisconsin. WE HAVEN’T FORGOTTEN YOUR POINT SHAVING SCANDAL AND YOU’RE SO CLOSE TO CHICAGO YOU MUST BE CORRUPT, NORTHWESTERN.
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by Skins4ever on Feb 2, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the names are dumb, but I think the persistent whining people have about them is even dumber. Given the setup of the divisions, there are no names that would be ideal so it just comes down to personal preference.
No, absolutely not.
They’re not so bad in geographic terms as to make East and West totally impossible. The names are a total joke, and people should complain and even whine about them.
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 9, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Rambler couldn't support that
Unless Penn State ended up in the North division.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
by Paige2PSU on Jul 11, 2011 9:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, yeah
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
of course the southern division would constantly be trying to leave for the SEC.
My grammer skills need improved.
by BMAN13 on Jul 12, 2011 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
All of that makes more sense than Legends and Leaders.
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Who gives a crap?
Their stupid names to replace what would have been geographic names that wouldn’t have made total sense (East/West). I’m not a fan of them either, but it’s a freakin’ division name, it’s not like it’s going to be held against us in the polls.
Well after the undefeated season....
we were gonna vote that B1G team #1… but he’s in the leaders division… how silly is that… sooooooo #14 instead…
JoePa – coaching PSU 140 Characters at a time
East/West
IMO that would have made the most sense-with the schools placed accordingly. Only one drawback-The Land Grant Trophy would still be an annual occurrence. As for crossover games: PSU-Nebraska, OSU-Wisconsin, Michigan-Minnesota, Michigan State-Iowa, Purdue-Illinois and Indiana-Northwestern would have worked.
Sorry, we're taking suggestions for the BIG
Not the Pac 12… not sure why one would put Oregon and USC in a division by themselves though… Oh! You must mean the Big East! But they’re all losers… hm… the SEC? Yeah I could see that working.
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Fugimaster24 is the better Adam.
I think everyone who thinks these names are cool can be convinced anything is cool.
I feel sad.
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
It's not about thinking the names are cool.
It’s about having better things to do with my life.
by misdreavus79 on Jul 11, 2011 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I know.
I didn’t sign the petition either, because I don’t care that much.
But Legends and Leaders? Why don’t we just call ourselves the Big Fop Conference? I’m convinced Ohio State and Michigan came up with all of this.
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 11, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, Legends and Leaders sounds exactly like the type of name that PSU’s PR department would come up with. I mean, it would fit in with “Success with Honor”. (Not that I’m knocking how PSU promotes itself, but I could easily see them talking about being a school that is “legendary” and “leads” too.)
And, in all fairness, if PSU came up with that I wouldn't particularly care for it.
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
How about
Bunnies and Kitties? The internet seems to like both a real whole bunch.
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by rahpsu92 on Jul 11, 2011 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
They are exactly like
the Oakland Athletics or the New York Knickerbockers. No one refers to The A’s as the “Athletics” and no one refers to the Knickerbockers as anything but the “Knicks”. By the end of this season everyone will be referring to East and West and in a few years some smartass in a bar will say, “Don’t you mean the ‘Leaders’ division”? and everyone will then remember that Leaders and Legends are the real names and after a shrug they’ll kick the crap out of the smartass and then have another beer,
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the only thing I don't like
Are the smug fans from other conferences. “Are you in the leaders or the legends” and laughing like ‘who cares and who would want to be in either of them’. I hate it.
Division 1 and 2 or A and B is fine with me.
It really should be “Penn State’s Division” and “The other division”.
"I don't want to injure anybody," James Harrison said. "But I'm not opposed to hurting anybody."
"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."
I have trouble remembering what division we're in.
Pretty much the only way I determined it was: 1) We should be in Legends because Joe Paterno is a legend and 2) this is the Big Ten we’re talking about, so of course we’re in the opposite division than what I thought we should be, ergo we are in the Leaders division.
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
by Paige2PSU on Jul 11, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
We're so much alike, NC,
It’s almost scary!! LOL!
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by Paige2PSU on Jul 11, 2011 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, Paterno is kind of a Leader too.
by Laaaaazzz on Jul 11, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I always say
“Legends are people who live in the past… Leaders are those who shape their own future… Leaders sounds better, oh good! We’re in Leaders!”
John has a long moustache
Fugimaster24 is the better Adam.
Kibbles and Bits
It makes just as much sense
by letsgopsu on Jul 11, 2011 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This is exactly my point.
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Really the only "name" divisions that would make sense...
Cops:
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Michigan
Michigan State
Minnesota
Northwestern
Penn State
Purdue
Wisconsin
Robbers:
Nebraska-Lincoln (Honorary title for Johnny Rodgers and the gas station)
Ohio State
"Man, Oklahoma sucks." - Ki-Jana Carter
by ReadingRambler on Jul 12, 2011 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I liked
the X and O division names that the B1G initially came out with anyway. I say just go back to those.
How about..
The SEC Sux Divison and the tO$U SuxDivision? The only challenge would be getting schools to pick with division they’d be in since everyone would want to be in both divisions (even tO$U would want to be in the tO$U Sux Division since by this point even they know how much they suck). Maybe we should just change from the B1G to the SEC and tOSU Sux Conference.
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