Miami Is Busted, And Al Golden Reportedly Prefers Mild Summers Anyway
So you've taken in this morning's news: Miami, years after the era of The U, still chooses to be the boss. All of this casts Penn State and the Post Paterno Era in a very different shade of unkown (an ugly green-grayish color, probably something like 49-79-79 if you prefer life in quantifiable RBG).
We're now several years past the first real scare that the court was crumbling, when Larry Johnson, Sr. was offered a co-defensive coordinator job during The Zooker's Last Stand of 2009. We found out later he was under the door frame headed west before getting cold feet. Looking back, it was probably a lateral career move at best, separating him further from his bread and butter in Maryland and removing him from the non-football State College community he's highly regarded in. And speaking of Maryland, as far as I can tell the closest he came to being a serious head coach canidate there was this demand from Testudo Times that he be an either/or "must have" for the staff if the Terps hired Wisconsin OC Paul Chryst, although it sounds as though he did turn down the opportunity to interview for the DC position after Edsall was hired.
As far as I know he's never received other significant offers to interview, although thank goodness for the Illinois one because otherwise the world would be without this.
And then there's Tom Bradley. The much heralded and statistically validated defensive coordinator has been doing great things, both during the offensive skill player-lacking Dark Years and in more recent times - FSH did the math on PPP and found two of Bradley's lineups were in the top 12 of all defenses in college football during the last five years.
Yet, he consistently and mysteriously lacks presence on coaching search short lists. After the embarrassing quick exit of Mike Haywood at Pitt, Bradley seemed like an absolute slam dunk - a Johnstown native and long-time proponent of playing football the way Pennsylvania has generally preferred it. He was even publicly getting support from the current boss who stood the most to lose from his hire with the Panthers, and yet Pitt passed on Bradley a second time for a guy who was coaching high school football 10 years ago and has almost no BCS experience [make your own Big East joke here].
In a tailspin from that, UConn interviewed him and also passed. For shame and certainly dense, in my opinion, but reality.
And then there's Greg Schiano, who's been steadily losing street cred since I was writing on blogspot.
Which gets us back to the head coach at Soon To Be Punished Miami, Al Golden. He's had another name given from members of this community as well, and that seems as possible as ever today. (He's saying all the right things, by the way, if you're curious how he operates during crisis.)
The debate will always spiral away from us because of outside-the-box notions (I'm being kind here, probably) that Penn State will suddenly get all New York Yankees with their payroll and chase guys like Stoops or Petersen or Caldwell, or have some kind of allure to outsider Pat Fitzgerald that Michigan didn't, or the very real possibility that Penn State heritage is not a primary criteria - it always is when the Internet tries to make sense of the future -- and a wider net is cast when interviewing the application pool. For the moment, though, those all seem less likely than our current assumptions.
So about those assumptions, and the possible new reality we face this morning: On the list of Bradley, Johnson, Sr., Shiano and Golden, only two were courted recently, and only one was chosen. Not only that, but the job Golden landed is was more desirable than any the other candidates have even interviewed for, save this weird situation from 2008 anyway.
I can't help but feel like that makes him the front runner when the coaching search starts four or five years from now.
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Golden isn't my #1
but I still feel for the guy
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Not sure in all honesty.
But the reasons people like him are.
A) He’s from Penn State
B) He’s young
C) He made Temple suck less in a bad conference.
"Suck Less" is one of the understatements of this or any other century
From the time when Wayne Hardin coached Temple (you remember, the guy that coached Roger Staubach and Joe Bellino at Navy), Temple has been seriously bad. It was, in my time at UD a HUGE rivalry. And Temple played PSU, and Pitt, and a lot of good to reasonably good teams and did well.
Until Golden worked his magic it was a black hole of terrible football. You have to be completely unbiased in analyzing what he accomplished. It has been remarkable.
by bluehenfan73 on Aug 17, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
amen...
And not only that, consider the job he did at psu before leaving for uva…and consider how bad uva has sucked since he left. Golden is undoubtedly a great coach and recruiter.
by rodney20 on Aug 17, 2011 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I want to see if he can have actual success
Like turning Temple into an average program is a success, but I want to see him do something with a team in a BCS conference… which probably won’t happen at Miami now because of all the shit that’s going down there :-/
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 18, 2011 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Is he in your top 5?
If you had to put a top 5 together, who would be in it? (and hope you don’t mind me putting you on the spot)
I would add: D) He has head coaching experience.
I would prefer that the next PSU coach have HC experience.
Sooner rather than later
I have no dog in this fight other than my affinity for Penn State due to the fact that my first EVER coach was a guy by the name of Al Bowden. He blocked for Lenny Moore. He was a close personal friend of my father. So understand I view Penn State from a distance and as UD Blue Hen.
First I am a huge admirer of Joe Paterno. Everything that is right with college athletics and college football in particular is who and what he is.
Next I would say that football is a game of passion and energy and intensity. And at this time as much as JoePa IS PSU and PSU football and B1G football, he does NOT, IMHO, bring those qualities to the team he coaches.
I say video of him talking from the cart yesterday during media day. He reminds me of my 89 year old father in law. A great man in his own right, (ask me and I will tell you, but I am NOT kidding), but my father in law does not give me the feeling of invincibility and focus and intensity I think you would need to be successful on the football field.
I say again: I am a huge JoePa fan. But I do NOT think he brings the energy or intensity necessary for his teams to reach the highest levels of competition. I DO think he brings honesty, integrity, commitment, and the true values of student athletes to his players and his teams.
Is that enough? Or is that what it should be? Are PSU alumni and fans OK with that?
I don’t know. I don’t have any right to say. I do know that the PSU campus and the opportunity to study there, when presented to young men of character and quality will be more than enough to bring significant, prodigious and capable talent to the PSU campus.
Thanks for chiming in
I will say that your analysis is anchored in solid reasoning, but in this community, we’ve gone over all the ideas you presented hundreds of time over the past few years.
I think everyone agrees with you on the positives that you say JoePa brings to the table. Mostly everyone agrees, to some extent, that he does not bring the energy and intensity of many younger coaches. There is significant disagreement on whether or not this fact means that we’d be better off if he stepped aside, or rather just one possible negative attribute that is far outweighed by the positives that he uniquely possesses that no other coach can match.
I’m of the opinion that having him as coach will always be fine with me. Everything he’s done and everything he stands for has given him the right to make his own call. He routinely fields very competitive teams and continues to bring in top notch recruiting classes. That he doesn’t visit recruits at their homes and can’t get as involved as he used to due to his physical limitations certainly doesn’t help the program, but I think his presence and integrity and the respect he commands (and he’s still not a bad coach, really) clearly make him an asset.
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by OctaShields on Aug 17, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
With you on this pretty much all the way
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by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 17, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d probably be a little more careful with the ‘everybody agrees’ language, though.
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I would not, for one second, agree that Joe Paterno doesn't bring the same energy and intensity.
I’d argue that Joe Paterno, when he’s healthy (as he is right now), is as competitive as the best coaches, but smarter than boneheads like Mike Stoops or Belini or the like.
Here’s what the man himself says:
Indiana University basketball coach Bob Knight (a personal friend) and baseball manager Billy Martin (not a personal friend, but someone I admire for his competitive drive) don’t always advance the essential goodness of sport. Yelling at officials, losing control of themselves are not compatible with excellence. When we’re teaching kids, we have to represent the best in sport, and by doing so, the best in living.
This isn’t directed at you, Octa, but some people really are too caught up in the records nowadays. They’re so caught up in it that they fail to recognize several things:
1) Penn State is still competitive and is, in my opinion, getting better. When was the program this stable? It’s been years.
2) You know what, the heck with it. You all should just read Paterno’s dang book, because he explains this stuff better than I do.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 17, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome, and thanks for your input
When was the last time you spoke with Al Bowden? We sure love Lenny Moore around here! I’m wondering if you had a chance to peruse the recent player interviews from yesterday’s media day? Here’s a quick link to the interview with one young man who likely knows a good bit about Lenny Moore already, along with a few aspirations in his direction. His assertions contest those of yours regarding energy and intensity. This being the internet, it’s of course more than fine for a contesting of assertions to occur—with no loss of face from either side.
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I can't believe he mentioned Brown before Moore.
Sad face.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 17, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
But, man, do those new uniforms look sweet.
Such a massive improvement. I did not anticipate that.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 17, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Al
Al passed away some years ago. I was at his funeral. It was a HUGE event in Seaford, DE. In Seaford EVERYONE loved Big Al. My father and Al worked together for almost 35 years. Because of the friendship Al had with Lenny, I got to go Memorial Stadium several times and see Lenny, Johnny U, Raymond Berry, Gino Marchetti and ALL those great Colts teams. Many lessons learned from Al that I carry with me today.
Sorry to be so verbose about Al, but he was a great person. I was lucky to know him. There is much more I could say on this subject but will spare all of you my trip down memory lane. If you want to hear more contact my email and I will respond privately.
by bluehenfan73 on Aug 18, 2011 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Lucky man!
That sounds like an awesome football upbringing you experienced. Sounds like Al was a great guy.
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But I do NOT think he brings the energy or intensity necessary for his teams to reach the highest levels of competition. I DO think he brings honesty, integrity, commitment, and the true values of student athletes to his players and his teams.
I’m going to be honest: the only thing you said in way of “proof” that Paterno isn’t intense enough was a short paragraph about your father-in-law. That’s it. None of that can detract from what we’ve seen in the past few months and years, which is a Joe Paterno who has players who want badly to prove themselves, players who are coached by a man who has shown a marked ability recently to make changes to better the program. Because, as Paterno has said, dating back to Rip, Penn State football has been about competing in football and building character in the young men. Don’t think Joe Paterno doesn’t want to compete.
How many people here have read Paterno By The Book? Because Paterno (This was in 1989) makes it clear that everybody on his staff and all of his players are made aware of what he believes in. And it’s pretty obvious from what he says that he relies on the many different personalities of his coaching staff – some of whom may be energetic than him in some ways – to teach his players as effectively as possible. Hardcover copies of said book are available for about four bucks in total on Amazon so go buy it now, people. And if you live in Central PA, I guarantee you it’s available at a local library.
No one here or anywhere else has yet to truly prove that Paterno isn’t capable anymore.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 17, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
/groupthink'd?
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 17, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And if you need suggestions
for post-it noting pages, my copy has about 37 sticking out in various directions.
OH. MY. NO.
So many reasons why, not enough time in the universe. Another time, maybe.
But you are, absolutely, entitled to your opinion.
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 17, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, let's pick a coach who played here and
who doesn’t have a winning record and screwed us over once before when he was recruiting coordinator and bolted right before LOI day over one who runs as clean a program as JoePa and wins BCS championships.
There is only one person in college football who is guaranteed not to bolt from your program, and when he retires, there’s no difference in the stability prospects of Golden vs Schiano vs Meyer.
Right.
It’s notlike any of them have health questions that have forced early retirement because they “love their family”. Then reneged on that retirement even though the health questions persisted because apparently their ego was larger than that love for their family. Then re-retired when it became evident that the health problems that they knew were still there were, shocker, still there.
It’s not like any of them have issues like that.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Aug 18, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather be on the posterior receiving end of a poorly thrown javelin.
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by MainLion on Aug 17, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This debate has gone around in circles a lot on here recently
He’s not my first choice, and I have my reservations (particularly regarding his long-term commitment to coaching), but I would probably be excited if he came on board.
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by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 17, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
"...but I would probably be excited if he came on board."
…and retired 9 months later.
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 17, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'll balance out the force and agree with you.
I’m not sure he’s my #1. And I’m not sure I know who is, but I’m not against that idea.
Yeah, I'd greet that hire with cautious excitment,
for exactly the reason Mike P mentioned “… and retired 9 months later.”
I'd rather eat a rotten tree swallow.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 17, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice post
Maybe I’m just stupid, but I really like Golden as a candidate for PSU—whenever the situation finally comes up in a serious fashion. Yes, guys on the current staff would offer a somewhat decent transition, but would they? There’s been LOTS of talk that half the staff would defect if one or the other widely accepted internal candidates were given the job. Golden would satisfy the “external hire” and “internal hire” camps at the same time.
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I always thought Miami was the perfect stepping-stone job for Golden. He’s young enough that a five-year stint is moving him into elder statesman territory. It’s a good school in a crappy league that would give him time to get his feet under him and have some success. If he won a couple ACC titles over 5-6 years and that’s when Joe finally gave up, wouldn’t he be everyone’s de facto assumed successor?
But I had no idea how bad things were down there, and now he is basically screwed. Death Penalty might be best case for him; he walks away unscathed and can go somewhere else. Otherwise he has the option of either quitting on Miami after one season or struggling along with 30 scholarships and getting crushed.
Well, they'll play this year... that much is for sure.
As I said in an earlier thread, I don’t think he’ll run away from this situation; coaching through this kind of adversity would be a unique demonstration of character, and I’d like to think that Golden is up for such a challenge.
I don’t think we’ll see the death penalty here, though if we did, that would certainly change the situation.
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by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 17, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh
and if we hire Golden, I think he should be contractually restricted from wearing a coat, no matter the weather, like he did at Temple.
Hmm...
I know you weren’t serious, but I couldn’t resist.
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 17, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
He should be forced to wear the outfit from his video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aaF6v3-gT8
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Great post
I’m curious about Urban Meyer. I don’t particularly like him, or the way he handled himself with recruiting, but that’s mostly because we consistently lost out on recruits to him… I did like the way he always won big games… But at the end of the day I’d rather see Golden take over than Meyer, even if Meyer would win more big games.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 17, 2011 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So, Charlie Strong?
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 17, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If he wasn't so old I'd really want him too
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 17, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't get the Dan Mullen hype...
mostly because I know next to nothing about him.
by Artiefufkin10 on Aug 17, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Great OC, great with QB's
Developed Tim Tebow @ UF, now he’s the Miss State HC and has made them a player in the SEC West. They’ve also beaten Ole MIss 2 years in a row.
Miss State was basically the Temple of the SEC, except somewhat better overall compared to their competition, and having to face much tougher competition. Traditionally, MSU is the worst school for football in Miss (Behind USM & Ole Miss) and right now they’re on top. He’s also a good recruiter.
People complain about the option read O that he runs but he taylors the O to the teams strength. Which is why he ran almost the exact opposite of the option read at Utah (He also developed Alex Smith)
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 17, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah...
one of Urban’s boys. Well you can’t argue with the offensive success at Utah and Florida. I’ve heard he has pennsylvania roots too?
by Artiefufkin10 on Aug 17, 2011 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, went to college in PA
He’s from NH (Along with Chip Kelly). He also has Florida and Mississippi ties. And as far as I know, nothing major, or really even bad, has happened while Mullen was at Miss State too
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 17, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
In fact, he's the one that told Cam to shove it when they tried to extort Mississippi State.
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 17, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he really seems like a good guy
Could make a great replacement
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 17, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
ssaayyy what?
Tim Tebow? Developed? Did I miss something?
by Why did I Graduate? on Aug 18, 2011 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
This
I can’t stand him because he was shoved down our throats for 4 years, but he was a phenomenal college player
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 18, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the best college player of the modern era
Tremendous statistical achievements, fantastic winning percentage in a power conference, no notable big game collapses, excellent ambassador for the game. Not his fault that ESPN and CBS jumped too hard on the bandwagon.
Someone will argue this, but if he was a Penn Stater this wouldn’t even be debatable.
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 18, 2011 10:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was going to go with your assessment,
but I didn’t want to bring out the haterz. Seriously, his achievements, both statistical and awards, are damn near unmatched by any player ever.
I was surprised that he did not leave MSU...
with some presumably better opportunities available after the season.They bumped up his pay a lot also—you always assume younger guys who have success will bolt at some point and usually sooner than later, but he may be like Fitzgerald at NU and stick it out at least for a while; it will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years with him.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 17, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
Idiot. Idiot, idiot, idiot.
Listen. I’m not saying that underage kids should drink. But it is so damned easy to buy alcohol when underage that to get caught doing so means you’re borderline full-on stupid.
Afraid to buy it in State College? Get in your car and drive to the Clarence exit, or south to Lewistown, or whatever. Sleepy towns sell.
Not that I know. Or whatever.
That being said, get in the doghouse and stay there.
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That was eerily close
To sounding like you’re assimilating with rambler.
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by dawsonPSU10 on Aug 18, 2011 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
actually
have you ever seen MainLion and Rambler in the same place? I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.
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by skarocksoi on Aug 18, 2011 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
It's less complex than you think.
I prefer not to be in the same room with him.
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by MainLion on Aug 18, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd rec this if I could
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 18, 2011 10:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's not what your mom says.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 18, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, so they bought it.
And what happens after they get wasted?
by misdreavus79 on Aug 18, 2011 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Common sense?
Don’t walk downtown and pee on the potted plants. Don’t dart across College or Beaver like you’re avoiding INS. Don’t yell loudly at 3 a.m. from the flag poles at Old Main.
Basically, if drunk you thinks whether or not something is appropriate or incognito, the obvious answer should be it is not.
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 18, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't think he was suspended
Just not practicing…IIRC, he will be practicing next week. Link. (warning: this link is to a pennlive article by Flounders)
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Al Golden's Record at Temple: 27-34
His record in the MAC: 20-12
His record against MAC teams with winning records? 0-10.
Al Golden seems like a real good guy and the absolute best person for Miami’s current situation, but I don’t think he’s got the chops to be the next PSU head coach.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
What was his record in the 1st yr at Temple?
I don’t know and can’t really look it up now, but I imagine that it was terrible. In those situations you almost have to ignore that 1st yr.
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 18, 2011 10:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it was 1-11
so he was 26-23 afterwards. I think the biggest problem is the record against MAC teams with winning records. He turned the program around and had one good year (2009, when they won the MAC), but beyond that, he was not a stellar coach.
I wouldn’t be crushed if PSU hired Golden, but he’s far down on my list — as are all of the people mentioned in the post with the notable exception of Scrap. I really would prefer that we get somebody like Randy Edsall or Brian Kelly, someone who took a lower-tier program and got them to BCS bowl games.
And, the tough thing for Bolden would be that he is already so adored by the PSU fanbase, that he would jeopardize that significantly be becoming the coach.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I agree with all of this except for everything beyond the word "Scrap"
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 18, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no
To Edsall, my list goes like this
1. Dan Mullen
2. Urban Meyer
3. Charlie Strong
4. Manny Diaz
5. Carl Pellini
Hoke was at the top last year, and Kelly the year before
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Hufnagle
Bradley
Caldwell (for a few transition yrs) and then taking over, his top assistant
Mike Robinson.
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