Penn State Positional Previews 2011: Safeties
In 2010, Penn State's safeties, much like the rest of the defense, were hurt by injuries. Drew Astorino has been bothered by a nagging shoulder injury the past two years while Nick Sukay's promising season came to an abrupt end with a torn pectoral suffered on the opening kickoff of the Illinois game. This gave redshirt freshman Malcolm Willis a chance for some playing time and he was nothing short of impressive. Now, with Sukay back and healthy, Penn State heads into the 2011 season with a good mixture of experience and skill at safety. Combine the experience of the safeties with the experience Penn State has at cornerback, and Penn State is looking at one of their best secondaries in several years. Even ESPN thinks so.
Projected Starters
#1 Nick Sukay - Senior - Hero
2010 Stats:
29 tackles, 3 INT, 1 FF in 6 games
#28 Drew Astorino - Senior - Free Safety
2010 Stats:
70 tackles, 1 INT, 5 pass breakups
There's no reason to expect that a healthy Sukay and Astorino won't get the nod to start this year. Astorino has been the recipient of many complaints over the past couple of seasons, but he has been one of the most consistent contributors in Penn State's secondary. Despite his shoulder issues, Astorino has notched at least 60 tackles and been on the field for at least 800 plays each of the past two seasons. If his shoulder holds up this year, Astorino should be one of Penn State's top contributors on defense.
Sukay returns after tearing his pectoral muscle last year and missing the final 7 games of the season. In his 19 starts at Hero, Sukay has notched 5 interceptions. Despite missing half the season last year, he still finished tied for the team lead in interceptions with 3. Penn State ranked 81st nationally last season when it came to picking off passes. That's an area where it'd be nice to see some improvement and hopefully having a healthy Sukay for the entire season will improve that number.
Backups
#10 Malcolm Willis - Sophomore (RS)
2010 Stats:
54 tackles (29 solo), 1 INT, 3 pass breakups
#4 Adrian Amos - True Freshman
Willis started the final 7 games of the 2010 season at Hero for Penn State, but will be relegated to a backup role now that Sukay is healthy. That doesn't mean Willis won't see the field. Penn State frequently runs 3-safety defensive sets (well, more frequently than most other teams) allowing someone like Willis to move into the hero spot, as Astorino is often the one used as the nickel back in those situations. Regardless, Willis' presence should give fans some peace of mind should one of the starters get hurt though.
Amos was a late addition to the 2011 recruiting class and figures to slide into the slot vacated by Andrew Dailey who graduated early and left the team. Public and not-so-public reports like what Amos has been doing this fall camp, meaning he's likely to jump over more experienced players, like Stephen Obeng-Agyapong and Jacob Fagnano, depending on how Amos does in his first live-fire test.
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I'm not sure why...
but next to the DEs, this position bothers me the most on the defense. Maybe I just remember too may receivers getting behind them even though the end result was often a dropped pass or overthrow. Hopefully, being seniors, these guys will step up and not give up the deep ball.
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It would be so cool
to play Hero for Penn State…just imagine…Hey, what position did you play at Penn State? ….Hero. Done. Awesome.
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Well, almost done
Then you’d go home with her.
by jtothep on Aug 23, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
And then you'd take her to the attic and string her up
Or at least that’s what the comments last night taught me
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Only if I was a contributor to this blog
not just providing a few comments…right?? I hope…?
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Mayyyyyybee
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
basement you fool, basement!
Its too damn hot in the attic in the summer!
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
but you can still tie up people in the basement
where you choose to sweat your days away is your own business
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We're now drifting into creepy
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
If you make them sweat a lot it tires them out
Less struggling
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok seriously.
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I know
That one made me feel creepy
if not somewhat funny
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Voted better
The last shitty play I remember Sukay making was mis-reading a TP Arm Punt in 2009. Dude looked fine against Alabama and the cupcakes to start out last year. Or maybe that was Saban ‘taking his foot off the gas?’ He’s got good size and speed and should continue to improve ball-hawking this year.
And Astorino is healthy coming into the season this year, first time in 3 years iirc. I like him. Knows where he’s supposed to be, has good vision and is a sure tackler.
Mostly, tho, I also expect Bradley to be better/smarter with mixing these guys’ formations. I have this ugly vision of him sending D’Anton Lynn in on a corner blitz against brutus 2yrs ago, TP, dodging him effortlessly, and the camera panning in on Scrap on the sideline afterward tapping his chest like ‘my bad.’ These guys are both experienced, healthy and good tacklers who will be flanked by our best cover corners (once Morris starts over Powell) in 5 years.
I forgot about that...
Great. Because everybody knows PSU has too many crazy blitzes, dynamic press coverage, and fancy defenses. That’ll learn ’em.
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Ha, yeah, that killed me
Maybe not as much as Bowman bouncing off TP earlier in the same game, but yeah. 3rd & 9, and dude scrambles for a first. Sucked.
It wasn't like he was that good.
The guy is not Major Harris.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 23, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like jessedot. says, Major Harris is probably the greatest college player I've ever seen.
Terrelle Pryor is not Major Harris.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 23, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yo know who was better than Major Harris?
Pat White
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh snap
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 23, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
This proves you know nothing about football.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 23, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The Major was roughly as fast, stronger, and a better thrower. He had a ridiculously powerful arm. Hayden Fry would have loved that guy.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 23, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope they keep giving Malcolm Willis reps.
by tlrpsu on Aug 23, 2011 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He'll get situational reps
Some nickel packages at appropriate down & distance. And maybe some cupcake reps.
But Sukay & Astorino are gonna get 90% of healthy snaps. And fuck it, while I’m in a nostradamus mood. Astorino’s gonna be at least 3rd on the team in tackles with 85+.
p.s., I also like Willis and think he can make plays in this defense.
by jtothep on Aug 23, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/puts on jtot’s nostradamus hat
Willis may have been seeing some reps with the ones during practice. I for one hope that’s true. I’m not as high on DA as others, just don’t think he’s the best man for the spot, though we know that isn’t always a concern.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 23, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
They should be better
Personally, I hope Astorino starts out the year, he’s arguably the defenses best tackler. Sukay seems like a better Anthony Scriotto, and Willis has a lot of potential and it would be nice to rotate him in. Honestly, vs teams like Indiana I’d want Willis to start, and against Alabama and I’d Drew to start.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions
Disagree
There’s nothing that can emulate playing against another football team in an actual game, even if it’s a I-AA cupcake. You need those game speed reps before Alabama, especially because it’s the ONLY game before Alabama.
Or are you referring to IU and not ISU?
Oh Indiana
I want WIllis for Indiana b/c he’s a better coverage guy, and Astorino for Bama b/c he’s the better tackler
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
People liked Willis last year
because he appeared to be a better tackler. I’d argue that the positions are reversed. I think Astorino makes better reads on plays, and is thus a better coverage guy, but struggles to tackle due to his smaller size and injuries.
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
agree
his tackling form went to crap (and understandably so) after he was injured. I remember him getting bowled over and dragged along after making some pretty crappy tackle attempts. But a healthy Astorino is a good Astorino.
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Really?
I know vs Illinois he was the only one making good tackles, well, him & Fortt
And vs Bama it seemed the same way.
I usually read it as the opposite, or at least that’s what most people seem to say, it appears to me.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Y'all have all heard me say it.
But I’m very pro-Astorino. I think he’s a very good tackler and I appreciate the way he’s played for this team, even while injured. He stuck it out when there was NOBODY to take his place and played through the pain. He risked hurting himself even more than he was. His heart impresses me as much as his tackling does and I’m looking forward to him having a great year.
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Changing subject
I just saw a tweet from @jsloanjr to Tom Bradley – says congrats on naming Matt McGloin the starting QB (according to a Hartford Conn. paper and ESPN). Smells like a troll – has anybody else heard anything?
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So if they picked McGloin
when do we set the Bolden transfer watch? At least we’ll still have Cabot, McGregor and Venuto. Of course, I still have all of my eligibility left so I could be persuaded to suit up if needed. I might be a little rusty since not putting on pads since 1979 but I think I could work the kinks out quickly. Put me in coach!
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My initial theory is that assuming McGloin is picked and Bolden transfers, we'll magically see Paul Jones eligible again.
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Whew
That takes a load off because I do have to get the grass cut and do a few other chores before kickoff on Saturdays so game prep really woulda cut into that, severely pissing off my wife.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 23, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Spelling this kid's name is going to be a struggle for the next 6 years.
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 23, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, especially in those drunk-angry post game threads.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe the old rule...
of never speaking the actual name of QB14 should still apply to the new BSD!
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I don't think that's possible.
He doesn’t have enough credits.
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Didn't slow Uncle Rico
down one bit.
by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 23, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
This was all the talk yesterday
And almost every major PSU news source discredited it
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 23, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll say this.
The guy who posted the “McGloin will start” info on FOS is usually very reliable, as I recall. I don’t belong to FOS anymore, so I didn’t see it, but I heard who posted it. He’s a former player with connections to the program.
I’m also not surprised that it was quickly discredited, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true. It’s become apparent from reading the practice reports that Bolden hasn’t outplayed McGloin to any discernable degree.
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by Chris Grovich on Aug 23, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Serious q - does it even matter anymore?
If Bolden can’t beat out McGloin, what does that say about him? Some Bolden proponents seem to think we’ll magically be better if he starts, but that doesn’t make any logical sense.
I don’t care anymore. I’m not particularly impressed with either, but think we can probably win with whoever.
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 23, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter, no.
They were essentially the same player last year, and it appears that hasn’t changed much. So it’s not even worth getting upset about, either way, until one of them really stinks it up this season.
by Chris Grovich on Aug 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
To me the differences are...
-One guy was a turnover machine against good defenses that could also move the chains
-The other guy turned it over less but could’t get the offense in a rhythm.
Pick your poison.
by Artiefufkin10 on Aug 23, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That is very true
the only pro-bolden argument you can have is that if both are equal or close to it, start Bolden so he gets reps for the future. Again, its the argument of potential and who has the higher ceiling. I’m sure the coaches will pick whoever gives us the best chance to win right now though.
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Right, but like Mike H. mentioned on Twitter yesterday, Joe doesn't think that way.
Think about it like this – If MM is chosen, and you were RB, would you stick around? With Newsome gone and PJ ineligible for now, that leaves one scholarship QB and then ham sandwiches galore. However, if RB is chosen, MM isn’t going anywhere.
I’m putting my money on RB walking off the bus first on 9/3, but like has been said, neither has apparently been extremely impressive in camp. Of course, that could be smoke and mirrors…
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 23, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure that's entirely true.
I think there is one staff member that is pushing for McGloin, despite the practice reports. I think we’ve seen the same ones, and it appeared Thundercock had begun pulling away. I think this one staff member wanted to make sure it was a fair fight before next week’s announcement.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Betcha it's JoePA
He was the only one voting for McGloin last year against everyone else from what I heard. He’ll always vote for the leader of the natural born athlete (IMHO).
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In retrospect, much of that concern was well-founded.
Bolden’s a good athlete with the right mechanics and a live arm. He looks the part. But he was absolutely not ready for primetime last year. He didn’t know the playbook, couldn’t read a blitz, couldn’t deliver in the redzone, and couldn’t compensate for any of that with any inherent leadership capability.
If we had started McGloin, this would be far less of a discussion. We’d actually know what we had from a full McGloin season, Bolden wouldn’t have been pulled mid-season (which is what created the friction anyway), and we wouldn’t have had to deal with ugly transfer rumors.
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 23, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a good point
couldn’t compensate for any of that with any inherent leadership capability.
Cuz, McGloin kinda did. Not 5 INT-level of compensation, but really, what would that kind of leadership look like anyway?
You know how I feel about Bellanca: He's smarter than me.
He was in attendance for our game with Minnesota (How an Iowa fan who lives in Virginia, IIRC, ended up at that game is unknown to me) and claims he could see an obvious difference in the huddle, in the demeanor of our players with McGloin. I saw nothing to make me doubt him.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 23, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This sounds a lot like the "Pitt to the Big Ten" rumors that were floating around in early 2010
The coaching staff has absolutely no reason to delay announcing the starting QB once they’ve made a decision. When the decision gets made, I expect it will be a very public announcement—maybe not the lead story on gopsusports.com like last year, but something equally visible. Any rumor before that time is a waste of effort.
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by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 23, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
They have every reason to delay the announcement
Give the other teams less time to prepare.
by PSU Mudder on Aug 23, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
It’s not really going to matter for ISU how much time they have to prepare
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but if they don't really name a starter
and play both kids a bunch in the ISU game, it give Bama more to think about.
I'm not sure it does.
McGloin seemed WAY more ready to run outside the pocket than Bolden was (and looked better moving in general), contrary to what everyone says about Bolden being “the better natural athlete” or whatever.
While PSU blogosphere was dealing with, uh, other issues yesterday, this is the news that was burning down the message boards
It was quickly discredited by almost every real journalist. Though I have heard that naming a starter could be done early next week, after the final scrimmage on Saturday.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 23, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I sent a Tweet to Selena Gomez..
…to see if she knew any real journalists who might be closer to State College.
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The internets are still functioning and not completely engulfed in an inferno today, so I’m going to go with "rumor".
If it does eventually happen, I may have to avoid BSD for the season. I don’t think I can handle a repeat of last year.
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It depends
do we start the whole grief process over again or just start where we left off last year? Cause Acceptance isn’t too far off, and that could turn out to be kinda funny.
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I'd say we'd probably revert back to anger for awhile
Just a guess though
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd have a mix
Of anger (that we’re starting a QB that threw 5 picks in the bowl game and seems to be a bit immature), disappointment (that Bolden couldn’t beat him out), and dread (not the Judge, but the feeling. If McG really is the best we have, we’ve got to be screwed).
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That sounds fair
Pretty much what I’m feeling. I so want Bolden to be the guy, but if he can’t beat McGloin out… that’s kinda scary.
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
But you're discounting the possibility
of Penn State’s own Rudy movie. If McGloin starts, and leads the team to the championship, then they’ll have to make a rags-to-riches feel good movie of the year with a title like, “McGloin!” or “Ginger Does Indianapolis”.
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"Ginger Does Indianapolis"
I’d bet money there’s already a movie out by that title. I’d Google for it, but I don’t want to get fired if I’m right.
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Surprisingly
No movie by that name that I can find.
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
However there is
a “Ginger Does Everything” starring Nina Hartly. I’m thinkin’ this might not have football as a story line.
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Nina Hartley. Classic!
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by Pete the Streak on Aug 23, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, McGloin has had a full 2 years more than Thundercock
He knows the playbook, which is why I think Joe voted for him last year. Rob is young, and may have been thrown into the fire too early last year, and had a very, very limited knowledge of the playbook when he got here. IIRC Rob has sought the help and advice of DC17, which IMO, can only mean that he’s dedicated himself to improving. If he hasn’t, then people can make up any excuses they want, but I still think it’s only having a year’s worth of experience as a PSU player.
If he doesn’t start
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Picking nits here but Astorino plays Hero and Sukay/Willis FS
Unless there’s been some changes going into this season. As discussed previously, Astorino is woefully undersized but, when healthy, he’s a much better tackler.
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According to their profiles on PSU's website
Sukay plays hero and Astorino plays FS
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/sukay_nick00.html
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/astorino_drew00.html
Read the 2009 season recaps
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 23, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You may be right about '09 but '10 was DA at Hero
In the 13 games I watched last year, Astorino was playing the run-support Hero position. Here’s the game notes from the Outback Bowl link listing Astorino at Hero for 12 of the 13 games.
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by Frank O'Brien on Aug 23, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You're both right
Kyle’s right about 2009: Astorino played FS, Sukay played Hero. Also, gopsusports is right about 2009:
2009 Junior Season; Sukay grabbed ahold of a starting assignment at strong safety (Hero) during the preseason and got the opening nod in every game.But that link of kyle’s to gopsusports doesn’t specify which ‘Saf’ position he played in 2010.
Frank’s right about 2010: Astorino started at Hero every game except Minny, the game after the Illinois Incident when Sukay tore his pec, when he switched to FS for one game while Dailey started at Hero. The following week, vs.Michigan, Astorino was back at Hero while Willis started at FS.
Additionally
I expect that Paige, Frank and the coaches will all be right in starting Astorino at Hero, while Sukay starts at FS.
by jtothep on Aug 23, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're right
I didn’t see them specify it for 2010, I just assumed it didn’t change since I didn’t see it noted.
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Paige and the coaching staff all agree that Astorino is the better tackler
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by Frank O'Brien on Aug 23, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well, all that matters,
is my opinion.
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by Paige2PSU on Aug 23, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like a dose of heathly modesty.
Fire Dan Snyder
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It's Paige
She’s earned the right to not be modest
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 24, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Modesty to Paige is 2 pocket protectors!
My grammer skills need improved.
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This almost made me laugh out loud
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It also might have been
that once Sukay was out, Astorino switched to Hero so that Willis could be FS
Fire Dan Snyder
I think we just had an earthquake
here in Philadelphia!!! buildings all shook. Too cool.
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They felt it everywhere
As far north as Toronto, as far south as Florida
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I didn't feel it.
Guess I’m on a different fault line!
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by GoodOleDays on Aug 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I felt it as well over in Radnor.
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Me: Coach, I really am a big fan of Penn State
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Me: I am also a big Notre Dame fan as well
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