48-14 over #1 Pittsburgh vs 63-14 over #21 Ohio State: Pick One
Ohio State would go on to finish the season ranked #14, and Pitt would go on to finish ranked #14.
Stats and whatnot:
Kerry Collins: 19/23, 265 passing yards, 2 TD's
Carter: 19 carries, 137 yards, 4 TD's
Engram: 5 catches, 102 yards
"This is probably the best offense I've ever seen in my entire life of watching college football"- Kirk Herstreit
Todd Blackledge: 12/23, 262 yards Dan Marino threw four picks.
I went with Ohio State personally, mainly because beating a real program should weigh more than beating a fake one (I know Pitt was good back then)
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Holy crap!!!!
It has to boil down to whom do you despise the most. At the time frame of these games, I will go with sPitt because it was a real hate-filled rivalry. But these 2 games have to be “goosing” each other for 1st place.
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Exactly
‘At the time frame…’ Who did you despise most when the game was played.
Ten-year-old me says 48-14 by a landslide.
Such a tough call here.
I went with 48-14, mainly because it was a blowout win over the #1 team on the road, and a preview of just how good the ’82 season would be.
Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.
48-14
…and I’m not even a long-time fan/follower of PSU football (only since ‘02/frosh yr). But I can appreciate the magnitude of destroying your biggest rival when they’re ranked No. 1, crushing their hopes for what would have been a guaranteed bid for a national title.
The OSU win was great, though. And thanks for linking to the 10 MOL.
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 24, 2011 10:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Also prevented Pitt from trying to claim another undeserved national title
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-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Aug 24, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate OSU about 10000 times more than I hate Pitt
but I still went with 48-14. That game destroyed Pitt Football. They were ranked #1 at the time, playing at home against their rival, 5 years removed from a MNC, and then that happened. They haven’t had a legit 10 win season since.
In contrast, OSU would go on to win 30 of their next 34 games and have a very strong case for the 1996 MNC. They wouldn’t lose a game by more than 8 points until 1998.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
by ckmneon on Aug 24, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
They were pretty good in 1982...
…they still had Marino, I think they were pre-season #1 that year.
Ahhhh.....s@#t.
When a 9-3 year
with a loss to your rival, 4 wins over Army, Temple, Louisville, and Rutgers (the 1981 equivalent of playing Indiana State and Eastern Michigan twice each), 2 wins by a combined four points over decent-but-not-good West Virginia and North Carolina teams (both at home), is the high water mark of a nearly 3 decade span, you are laughably dead.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
*1982 equivalent
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
And those jerk-offs from the '82 SMU team (especially you, Craig James), still insist that they were the best team in the country that year.
Sure, because they had such a dominating 7-3 win over that Pitt team in the Cotton Bowl.
Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.
by icavalera on Aug 24, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love that documentary.
Those ponces talked about how unbeatable they were in seasons where they lost three games.
Ahhhh.....s@#t.
by jesse. on Aug 24, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And they seem to take a certain amount of pride in the amount of cheating that was going on.
Whatever… I think we would have beaten them pretty easily in a bowl game, especially given a month to prepare.
Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.
by icavalera on Aug 24, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My favorite part
is the guy bragging about how efficient their “payroll” system was. Not the least bit contrite about the wholesale dishonesty and swelling with pride over their logistical prowess!
by PSU_Buch on Aug 24, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's like the SMU Players....
…thought the documentary was about how great they were, rather than about, you know, the cheating.
Ahhhh.....s@#t.
by jesse. on Aug 24, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They’ve all since relocated to Block O and Eleven Warriors
Striving for Success with Honor
by Frank O'Brien on Aug 24, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
SMU had a chance to play us that year, IIRC.
They backed out of the deal.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 24, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless your thinking about the regular season....
Penn State could have gone to the Cotton Bowl to play SMU, but Georgia was number 1. You know, Georgia had a pretty decent tailback too.
Ahhhh.....s@#t.
That's not what I mean.
I have no real source or anything, but I distinctly recall reading somewhere that SMU backed out of a game with Penn State. SMU did play at Penn State in 1978, one year before Ron Meyer’s brilliant recruiting, uh, tactics brought in Dickerson.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 27, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and for the record
Nebraska probably would have beaten both Georgia and SMU.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 27, 2011 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The whole premise of that documentary was simple:
Whatever you viewers do, don’t look up the records for any of those SMU teams and definitely don’t look up anything that might indicate that the SWC was, in fact, a garbage league.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 24, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even in '82, when they were 11-0-1,
they beat 3-8 TCU by 3, 4-7 Texas Tech by 7, 4-6-1 Baylor by 3, and 5-5-1 Houston by 6. Their only good win was against 9-3 Texas, and they tied the only other decent team they played (Arkansas). Yeah, they were just freakin’ AWESOME!!!
Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.
And the 1982 pollsters realized SMU
had played only TWO teams from outside the state of Texas (Tulane and Arkansas). (Up until their bowl game, of course.) Yeah, I understand football is a religion in Texas, but not playing outside of your area code is a recipe for getting snubbed.
Unless it’s the 717, of course!
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Aug 25, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course it makes sense.
SMU was relying solely on talent. They were like Calipari on steroids.
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by ReadingRambler on Aug 27, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That shows you the relevency of pre-season polls
Pitt still had a lot of residual talent on the ’82 team, including Marino, but that was definitely the start down. I loved the ’82 game since it was at home in miserable windy weather. Mostly I remember Marino failing to mount a comeback with his back in the south endzone in the middle of the student section and the wind blasting in his face.
The 48-14 game is the greatest game I didn’t get to see. I was a freshman and my parents decided to drag the family to my uncle’s in Virginia for Thanksgiving. The game wasn’t televised there so we spent the day deer hunting and I heard the score on the radio after the game was over. Even so, I had to vote for it.
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by Frank O'Brien on Aug 24, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What is best in life?
“To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.” In both cases Penn State achieved what is best in life. I picked OSU since, while I saw both games and appreciated them, at this time in my life my loathing for all things Ohio State takes precedence.
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by RWReese on Aug 24, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Oh, and just so you know...
tO$U still mightily sucks.
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by RWReese on Aug 24, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
More than happy to make that green
As an 8 year old boy meeting JoePa:
Me: Coach, I really am a big fan of Penn State
Joe: Glad to hear that
Me: I am also a big Notre Dame fan as well
Joe: Son, you can only be a fan of one or the other, not both. Make sure that you pick a winner.
48-14
Because 30 years later, it’s a game that is readily identified, by multiple generations of Penn Staters, simply by the score. Devastating your arch rival in their own building when they are ranked #1 is tough to top.
Great poll idea, by the way.
A different PSU/OSU tilt that would be great to match against the Pitt game would be 1956: PSU 7 OSU 6. The Nittany Lions upset undefeated defending national champ #5 OSU in Columbus. Obviously, most of us weren’t around to experience that one (though I was still in diapers for 48-14, come to think of it), but students of program history appreciate its significance. A quick Google search revealed that BSD ranked this as Penn State’s third greatest upset, just behind the thrashing of #1 Pitt.
It's a good suggestion, but I don't know how many people on here were even alive for that, let alone recall it
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 24, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Pitt
At Pitt, down 14-0. Pitt players on the sidelines laughing & high-fiving, looking like a Pitt cakewalk. Then the hammer drops.
THE Ohio $tate Buck Guys:
1 Scarlet & Gray dollar sign helmet sticker for each autographed piece of equipment sold or bartered.
10 Scarlet & Gray dollar sign helmet stickers for each 9-month sports car "test drive" obtained.
American Pie parody (please help me finish it)
In nineteen eighty one
I can still remember
How that game still makes me smile
And I knew if he got the chance
That Blackledge could make Jackson dance
and maybe win it all the next year
the first quarter made me shiver
Todd and Curt couldn’t deliver
Down 14-0 to Pitt
Marino was on target
I can’t remember if I cried
When the interception killed the drive
But something touched me deep inside
The day Pitt football died
So bye-bye, Pitt football died
Drove it to the endzone
about 900 times
And those idiots were drinking iron city and I
was singing “this is the day Pitt football dies”
“this is the day Pitt football dies”
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
by ckmneon on Aug 24, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Too long of a song.
Why don’t you try something else…like maybe “Sink the Bismarck”?
“In late fall of 1981 the game had just begun.
The Pitters had the biggest qb who had the biggest gun.”
Ok, I’ve gotten you started….
Was bartending/managing at the Phyrst during the Pitt game
At halftime an ex-bartender who worked in Saudi Arabia and was home on vacation handed me $400 and said, “All drinks are on me. When this runs out, let me know and I’ll give you more.” Suffice it to say the rest of the game was one of my favorite Phyrst memories.
Plus a rec for American Pie. For decades the first song played over the stereo between the Phyrst Phamly’s second and third sets on Saturday night.
*
The only sad part
of this story is that 400 bucks probably took a hell of a lot longer to run out than the five or so minutes it would take today.
48-14. I was at that game so I'm automatically biased.
Plus it wrecked a program. It was the worst beating of a #1 team at home so late in the year. Pitt has never fully recovered. Ohio State, on the other hand, has recovered and actually has gotten a lot of payback on PSU (Talifierro game comes to mind) in addition to becoming an elite (albeit cheat) program.
I seem to recall OSU beating PSU bad the year before or doing something dickish in that game. I said at the time that Joe would get them….boy did he ever!
You can say "48 - 14" almost anywhere in Pennsylvania to folks older than 40
and they will instantly recognize that reference. As many of you have pointed out, ShPitt was a heavy favorite to win, and it started out like they would destroy the Lions. To come back against Marino and company, at ShPitt, was sweet indeed!!
“48 – 14” is my constant refrain to those ShPitt fans who think their 12 – 0 victory was somehoe meangingful, just because it was the “last” Lion-Pansy game. Hopefully we will fix that in 2016 and 2017.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
12-0 is such a lame response.
First of all it was a lousy game played by 2 lousy teams.
But it seems Pitt fans’ rationale is wholey “we won the last time we played so we’re better”. Dismissing how utterly infantile that kine of thinking is, let’s run with it instead. Following that convoluted logic would mean that the following teams are better than Pitt:
Ohio
Bowling Green
Iowa State
Hawaii
Air Force
Carnegie AC
Except I completely agree that the first five are at least equivalent to Pitt
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
by ckmneon on Aug 24, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Especially lame, considering we had beaten them 7 straight times before the 12-0 game.
Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.
my sister-in-law went to pitt
simply because her parents could afford penn state (mom-in-law works for hershey med center). she was a cheerleader there, and throws the 12-0 in my face all the time.
i simply reply 48-14 every time. she still doesn’t get it. and i chuckle.
"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who
Show her the youtube highlights.
Again, that 12-0 game is nothing to brag about. Pitt was just the less lousier team that day and year. It’s like going to the grocery store and liver is on sale…who cares?
Umm, as long as it's calf liver,
I do. Fried with onions — that’s some good eating!!
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Aug 25, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
48-14 because...
We beat a number #1 team – at their place – and we were down 14-0 early – and Pitt fans thought they were gonna cream us – and I loved the look on their faces as they were getting creamed.
Oh – and shit on Pitt.
we're all here, but we're not all there
by GoodOleDays on Aug 24, 2011 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Flash to 1981: Pitt is awesome! Marino! Jackie Sherill, who is stupid enough to engage in verbal jousting with Penn State linebacker Chet Parlavechio. The number one ranked Panthers take a 14-0 lead, and the announcer is saying, “I don’t see how anyone can stop them.”
Pitt doesn’t score again and loses 48-14 to their archrival on their home field.
Flash to 1996: In a 71-0 loss to Ohio State, Pitt gives up a punt return for a touchdown. Ohio State had nine players on the field.
Flash to 1998 or so: Pitt is so awful that they’ve convinced themselves they have to spend a bunch of money changing all of their logos, changing their whole identity.
"Faith requires no sources or proof, only a large amount of words." - unionblue, Civil War Talk
I missed the subject line
Anyone who votes for 63-14 lacks proper historical perspective. That game was great. Does it compare to utterly destroying your first ranked rival on their home field? No.
"Faith requires no sources or proof, only a large amount of words." - unionblue, Civil War Talk
by ReadingRambler on Aug 24, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
The value of the whole "up 14-0
and already gearing up for next week" prelude to the soul-sucking beatdown cannot be overstated either. That the Pitt kids were ready to shift into full-on celebration mode right before State rolled them hard on their own field makes it so much better.
I voted 63-14
But that is only because of my severe disdain for anything remotely related to Ohio State. Sure, historically the Pitt thrashing may have been more impressive, but c’mon, it’s Pitt. And really, if I had voted 48-14, part of me would be acknowledging Pitt as having had some sort of relevancy. I refuse to give them even that bit of satisfaction.
'Why would she have you meet her in a bar at ten in the morning?'
'I just figured she was a raging alcoholic'
Oh they had relevancy
and now they don’t. That game is why
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
I went for 63-14
because I was actually at that game. I wasn’t at the 48-14 game. AND 63-14 was Homecoming weekend. It was so sweet to beat the Buckeyes for Homecoming!
Ohio State Sucks,
now and for evermore!!
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
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WOW!!!
I voted 63-14, but then read all the convincing arguments for 48-14.
Can I change my vote?
Changing gears, anybody else getting excited about the idea of Nebraska actually being more of an actual rivalry game for us than Michigan State ever was because of McCloskey in 1982 and 1994? I think those kinds of things can breed a feud better than the Big Ten’s lame idea to pair us with Michigan State.
8 DAYS 21 HOURS 49 MINUTES 23 SECONDS UNTIL KICKOFF!!!
Hell yeah!
I have hated Nebraska since 1994. I don’t really hate Sparty. Therefore, I completely agree!
This is BSD, the crazy stirs itself.
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I think B1G officials are determined to match
Iowa and Nebraska as big rivals.
Penn State is gonna wind up like Jimmy Valvano, who, after his 1983 NC State bball team won the NC, ran all over the court looking for someone to hug.
Not to sound bitter — I know the world has changed since we joined the B1G — but the slobbering over Nebraska is almost nauseating at times. Much of my personal Penn State history predates our conference affiliation, and I’ve never felt like State was fully accepted — even to us being placed in the Leaders, not Legends, division. My angst is not directed at the Huskers — I think they are a great add — but at the conference offiicials, the media, et al.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Aug 25, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Personal favorite
Ending the year, every year, vs Wisconsin
"We're going to do all we can to get this team right, to go after that national championship" - Devon Still
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 25, 2011 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions

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