Penn State Depth Chart Released for Indiana State
by Mike Pettigano on Aug 29, 2011 5:50 PM EDT
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Penn State released its first official depth chart of the season a few minutes ago. There's no point in just running down what they've released, or simply pointing out what's different. I'll try to add my two cents to it all, for you all. I mean, really, that's why you come here every hour, right?
First, the rundown. Offense:
WR: #6 DEREK MOYE | #85 Brandon Moseby-Felder
LOT: #67 QUINN BARHAM | #70 Nate Cadogan
LOG: #50 DEON'TAE PANNELL | #73 Mark Acidacono | #75 Eric Shrive
OC: #54 MATT STANKEWITCH | #60 Ty Howle | #65 Miles Dieffenbach
ROG: #64 JOHN URSCHEL -OR- #74 JOHNNIE TROUTMAN | #62 Frank Figueroa
ROT: #52 CHIMA OKOLI | #78 Mike Farrell | #58 Adam Gress
TE: #80 ANDREW SZCZERBA | #10 Kevin Haplea | #82 Brian Irvin | #88 J.D. Mason
QB: #1 ROB BOLDEN -OR- #11 MATT MCGLOIN | #2 Shane McGregor
TB: #25 SILAS REDD | #3 Brandon Beachum | #26 Curtis Dukes | #24 Derek Day
FB: #37 JOE SUHEY -OR- #9 MICHAEL ZORDICH | #40 Zach Zwinak
WR: #81 SHAWNEY KERSEY | #16 Ryan Scherer | #17 Christian Kuntz
WR: #19 JUSTIN BROWN | #20 Devon Smith
Notes on the offense... (below the fold)
Quarterback. Obviously, we all kind of knew it would be the "OR" situation here. It was reported last week that the two would split time taking snaps against Indiana State. This just validates it. Personally (and I'm sure you'll disagree), I don't mind the split-time approach--for week one. Any more than this one week and it's not a good plan. We'll see.
Receiver. It's a bit surprising to see Shawney Kersey carve out a spot for himself. I'm pleased with the prospect of him seeing more time. Kersey has really good physical attributes. We'll finally get to see them in action more this season.
Offensive Line. DeOn'tae Pannell finally did it... again... for now. Pannell has grabbed the starting right guard spot away from Johnnie Troutman. You'll remember they swapped playing time there last season, with Troutman eventually taking the job. But this just illustrates a disappointing trend with Troutman of him not maintaining the effort (or whatever it is) to keep the job. John Urschel was projected to have the left guard job, and that's what happened. Good for him.
Next, the Defense:
LDE: #56 ERIC LATIMORE | #84 Kyle Baublitz
LDT: #47 JORDAN HILL | #93 James Terry | #92 Anthony Alosi
RDT: #71 DEVON STILL | #91 DaQuan Jones | #97 Luke Graham
RDE: #81 JACK CRAWFORD | #90 Sean Stanley | #86 C.J. Olaniyan
OLB: #6 GERALD HODGES | #43 Mike Hull
MLB: #40 GLENN CARSON | #11 Khairi Fortt | #33 Michael Yancich
OLB: #42 MICHAEL MAUTI | #34 Nate Stupar | #54 James Van Fleet
LCB: #8 D'ANTON LYNN | #14 Mike Wallace | #5 Derrick Thomas
FS: #1 NICK SUKAY | #10 Malcolm Willis | #23 Ryan Keiser
HERO: #28 DREW ASTORINO | #7 Stephen Obeng-Agyapong | #27 Jake Fagnano
RCB: #2 CHAZ POWELL | #12 Stephon Morris | #15 Alex Kenney
Notes on the defense...
Defensive Tackle. Notice Anthony Alosi and Luke Graham now in the depth chart on defense? These guys were on the O-line not that long ago. This is either a good sign (that they are pretty good on D) or a bad sign (the depth is just that horrid). My guess is the latter. But the overall two-deep defensive line is shaping up to be very, very good this year. Let's just hope PSU doesn't even need the third string.
Linebacker. Nate Stupar is stuck behind Michael Mauti, but I'm sure Penn State will find a way to get him on the field, whether it's the SUDE or running a 4-4 sometimes. I don't know. But he's too good to keep on the sideline.
Corner. Stephon Morris is going to have to earn his way back to the starting job. But that's a tall feat, considering we've heard nothing but positive things about Chaz Powell's performance this off-season. Mike Wallace is D'Anton Lynn's primary back up right now, but if Derrick Thomas can straighten up and fly right, he'll be on the field.
Special Teams:
P: #45 ALEX BUTTERWORTH | #30 Anthony Fera
K: #4 EVAN LEWIS | #30 Anthony Fera | (unofficial) Sam Ficken
SH: #23 RYAN KEISER | #30 Anthony Fera
KS: #60 TY HOWLE | #53 Jon Rohrbaugh | #57 Emery Etter
KR: #2 CHAZ POWELL -AND- #20 DEVON SMITH
PR: #19 JUSTIN BROWN | #20 Devon Smith
Notes on the Special Teams...
Kicker. Just remember, Scott Fitzkee was the punter for Penn State in the late 70s... oh, hell, that doesn't make anything better. Unless Evan Lewis is some sort of diamond in the rough we didn't know about till now, the kicker situation is scary. Tony Mancuso of GoPSU wrote that Sam Ficken will see time, but he's still not listed officially.
Returners. Nice to see Devon Smith in on both return units. But it would have been better if he was the primary on both.
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Are we really going to play this game with Pannell and Troutman again?
Really? If this is because Troutman is 3.2 pounds over weight, I am just going to lose it.
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It's been one of the most frustrating
things over the last 3 years. Maybe if one of them got the spot for more than 6 games at a time, they’d perform better.
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 29, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I blame the coaches,
and I blame Troutman. If indeed it is true that failure to maintain weight has been the reason he keeps not winning the job. If that’s true it’s on both of them for (1) being so rigid with his weight when maybe he can just flat out play and (2) him not being able to make the damn weight. If I had NFL potential and I knew I had to hit a weight to play, by god I would get to that weight.
Also, I haven’t seen Pannell play one snap without mental errors. I just haven’t.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Aug 29, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Who knows what to think.
If it was at another position, I’d give the coaches the benefit of the doubt, but not on the o-line. They blow chunks.
I'm just here for the beer.
by Illegal Formation on Aug 29, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I Blame The Church.
They stand in the way!
They stand in the way!
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by joefromboalsburg on Aug 29, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow!
A quote from The In-Laws! I’m going from memory here, but…
General: “Thank you. Not everyone appreciates this artist”
Sheldon: “Oh, there are a lot of boors in the world.”
Great, more time with De'Ontae
Given, most of my complaints come from being the LT, maybe he can do better at guard. But I think we’d all rather have Trouts.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 29, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions
FWIW, this Depth Chart doesn't really look anything like what it did during the entire fall camp.
I’m not sure how much weight it to be put into this. Granted it’s ISU so we should see some different looks, but I don’t buy some of those names in some of those places.
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There's more weight in the messages being sent than to actual playing time
It’s interesting to see Alosi as the only true Freshman on here, no Ficken, Belton or Amos.
Thomas is obviously still working his way out of the dog house, listed at #3.
And, most of all, Kersey must be getting his head together. Which adds a lot of depth/diversity to the WR position.
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by Frank O'Brien on Aug 29, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Alosi was the only EE in that class of '11, so he's got some extra time under his belt.
But I agree, Belton and Amos have a chance to be real playmakers in the future.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 29, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Or? OR!!
What the hell, OR! That’s like me walking into a room and the man in the room pointing at me and saying, “Or I don’t like him much either.” I sure as hell hope that #1 OR #11 have a great game and we blow IndieSt the hell out of the stadium, cuz I don’t want to go into the ‘Bama game with uncertainty again. I apologize for using HELL three times in this observation, but crap just wouldn’t do. This is Joe’s way of seeing if he can motivate someone whom he thinks could do a better job, you know—-STEP UP. That’s basically what depth charts are for. Our schedule doesn’t allow for fooling around this year or it could be 8-4 or 7-6 in late December. AND I hope they don’t try to “hide” plays for ‘Bama, otherwise we’ll be lucky to beat the Sycamores by more that 15 points. I say throw the kitchen sink against them….I’m not asking for another 2008, but make the other team stop us for a change. Hell I’m done for now.
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by DerryPharmer on Aug 29, 2011 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
From when this idea was first floated out there
It read as a coaching ploy to make Bama spend time preparing for both QB’s. The same reason you’ll see a nonsensical formation or unnecessary trick play against Indiana State.
by Nick Blonde on Aug 29, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd for sanity
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 29, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
McGloin...
and Bolden aren’t so different that ’Bama would need to prepare in any special way. PSU is going to run the same plays.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Aug 29, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Blitz a lot for one
And do nothing for the other. He throws to the opposite team already.
by misdreavus79 on Aug 29, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Bama is blizting..
regardless.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Aug 29, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Alabama actually doesn't blitz that much.
They like to blitz on obvious passing downs, but I think overstate their defensive aggressiveness.
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 30, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair point.
They probably don’t blitz as much as they show blitz or bring a LB, but drop a DL.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Aug 30, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
F it, I'm going deep
is definitely hard to prep for!
by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 29, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I actually think they are quite different.
A – more technical passer that is quick to read, quick to execute; afraid to leave the pocket
B – a roamer who will go through his progressions, but will also force a ball into space and doesn’t have as strong an arm
Planning for both is less time Bama can plan for other aspects of our team, but I still would prefer they choose one and stick with it. Even some of the players (including at least two wide receivers) are now coming out and saying they would have liked to have one named by now.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 30, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
They are very different
A – You have to prepare to run back interceptions
B – You have to prepare to recover fumbles after sacks
Like I said, totally different.
Ahhhh.....s@#t.
by jesse. on Aug 30, 2011 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think you have them backwards.
But yes, pick-6 and scoop-and-run-6 are difficult prep drills.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 30, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Petrified, mortified, terrified...
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 30, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought
A was Bolden, B McGloin and Bolden was the fumbler and McGloin the interception machine??? Y’all got me confused!
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I think your post...
is about all the extra time Bama will use to prepare for both QBs. The offense and what PSU tries to do doesn’t really change whether its Bolden or McGloin.
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by Esteban d' Amur on Aug 30, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And dammit, name the captains!
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by DerryPharmer on Aug 29, 2011 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
You beat me to this!!
This has been my line all day! LOL!
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I joked on the other thread....
that #21 was named as a co-captain and Joe was in a tizzy as to what to do….as I said, it wouldn’t be out of the question as Stephon is popular.
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by DerryPharmer on Aug 29, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw. Made me laugh and wonder if it was true!
I have also asked Coach Bradley on twitter and put a general tweet out there today.
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You must not remember 1986
The captains weren’t named until after the regular season. FTR they were Conlan, Shaffer, Steve Smith and Bob White. As I recall that season wasn’t all that bad.
"You can't handle the truth!"
after the entire season?
or after the opener?
I'm just here for the beer.
by Illegal Formation on Aug 29, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
back in my day.... /euler'ed
game captains rotated every week between seniors and deserving juniors/sophs
the captains for the season were elected before the bowl….by the staff
the player vote / coaching staff tally the vote thing started preseason 1999
That Sounds Correct
but given the lack of coverage 25 years ago (no internet!) I would not have kept up on who the game captains were.
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by PSUGuru on Aug 29, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wellllll look who it is
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 29, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The more I'm thinking about it
the more I like the idea of going back to the old school on captains.
This whole season is PSU throwback. Old School Joe, Old School Jerseys, Old School captains leads to Old School National Championship.
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by SarcasmJam on Aug 30, 2011 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
didn't Troutman get a DUI over the winter?
Can’t imagine Joe would let that go unpunished
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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 29, 2011 6:54 PM EDT via iPhone app reply actions
I remember one time.....
when Venturino wrecked the golf cart and didn’t allow Tom to come to the Friday Nite pre-game spaghetti dinner at Joe’s house. Unpunished is not in Joe’s dictionary. And damn, Sue makes a grand spaghetti dinner with homemade meatballs and sauce.
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by DerryPharmer on Aug 29, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Was Joe injured in that crash?
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by Frank O'Brien on Aug 29, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding.....
Joe doesn’t get injured, jusy annoyed at the fact.
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by DerryPharmer on Aug 29, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
RE: Captains:
I looked through the BSD archives for last year and the captains were announced during Joe’s Tuesday press conference on August 31. So hopefully we’ll find out tomorrow.
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You're correct...thanks!
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by DerryPharmer on Aug 29, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting to not see Belton's name
From all the reports from practices, he was really making a push for playing time. Again, I know this is not set in stone and it is ISU, but interesting he wasn’t on there.
Depends on Drake's health.
If he can go, Belton might stay back and be a special teams player this year (if he burns the redshirt). If Drake can’t go, Belton will push for slot play.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 29, 2011 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
If Drake does go
then I hope PSU redshirts Belton.
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 29, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't see any true frosh listed
Belton, Amos, Zettel. The week one depth chart is always beyond useless.
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Glenn Carson eh?
didn’t see that one coming
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Glenn Carson
It came out about a week ago that he was going to start at MLB and that Mauti was therefore moving to SLB.
"You can't handle the truth!"
Yea that one's been out for awhile.
Intriguing and exciting at the same time. Stupar was good, but this lineup can be great. And that two-deep at LB has to be one of the best in the conference.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 29, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
I don’t pay too much attention to that stuff, and only give slightly more credence to this. It’s meaningless speculation until now. Then again, what else are you gonna do to pass the offseason?
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Aw, man.........
I was told if Fera was still buzzed they’d give me a shot as an on-sides kick specialist.
Dammit!
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by Pete the Streak on Aug 29, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
It's good he's been moved from LG to RG,
because I think he’s been at the same position for two or three seasons, which is really just uncalled for.
I'm just here for the beer.
by Illegal Formation on Aug 29, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
+1 for frustration
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 29, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you.
I noticed that this afternoon on the .pdf download file. I guess we’ll wait to see who gets the most snaps.
True. Plus I think Joe writes depth charts in the original Greek anyway.
I gave up taking them too seriously a long time ago.
I've been telling myself I don't really care who was our starting QB
although I would prefer Bolden. But when I saw the picture of McGloin as the main picture, I swore out loud. So I guess I do really care who wins the starting QB job….lol Darn you and your awesome picture taking Mike!!
My first thoughts when I saw it were
“Oh, I guess it’s official. Good for him. I hope Bolden stays. Now let’s have fun with the fallout insanity”
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Very true
And I should have known they didn’t pick a starter because the article only has like 40 comments. If it was McGloin we’d be up to like 300 comments and I’ve be having a tough time reading the article because of the internet breaking and such.
Boo!
I want a Walker linebacker! And, yes, I know they’ll “experiment”, but get it over with, damn it! I’m a fan and I have the right to demand stupid stuff!
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
I DON'T CARE, I JUST WANT FOOTBALL
I NEED MY FIX MAN
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 29, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
No joke
This was the exact picture I was thinking of putting after my comment, but chose not to
"Hey Joe, don't worry about the guys we lose. Only make sure the guys you bring in here belong here, and they're coming here for the right reasons." - Rip Engle to Joe Paterno
I don't really care
what guys roll out for the opening snap.
Just sooooooo excited to have football & tailgating back!!
by Tailgate Shogun on Aug 29, 2011 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Kenney at Corner
Its a good thing.
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by joefromboalsburg on Aug 29, 2011 11:21 PM EDT reply actions
Does Anyone Think that the starting lineup for this week's game means anything?
Omar the Tentmaker could be the starting QB this week.
My guess is that PSU does nothing but run the ball between the tackles all day.
The starters may not break into a sweat.
Who is the Opponent? Indiana State? Are they like the Mid West Slippery Rock or something?
Are they acutally a college, or university or something?
Are they the team from Indiana Pennsylvania? Aren’t they Indiana State too?
Who would win the Indiana State vs Indiana State from PA game?
Is this game a bad idea?
Will the team be worse because they played this event?
Do you think there is a game plan in place this week?
Will the team actually run any plays that are not between the tackles?
Does anyone think they aren’t preparing for Alabama this week?
Will this be the game that we lose a QB to a concussion?
Seems like this is a PSU tradition for at least 8 of the last 10 years.
I look forward to the start of the season, September 10.
This week is a fundraiser.
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by joefromboalsburg on Aug 29, 2011 11:31 PM EDT reply actions
Scott Fitzkee = Red Lion, PA
That is all…
Marge: "Oh Homer. You're only hearing what you want to hear."
Homer: "Thanks! I'd love an omelette right about now."
Loved Fitzkee, despite not getting into the end zone in the 79 Sugar Bowl
But there was a cute little redhead named Marcy from Red Lion who broke my 12yo heart at church camp one year, so…mixed feelings.
Don't blame Fitzkee for the fact that the refs didn't call Suhey's touchdown when he obviously (obviously, suck it, bama) scored a touchdown on 3rd down
Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 30, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, red heads...
I married one! She’s not from Red Lion though. She’s a Pitt grad from Erie.
I’m from Red Lion, although I graduated in 91, many years after Fitzkee. I think he is the last football player from Red Lion to play for PSU. Interesting enough, I think one of this year’s recruits is from neighboring Dallastown.
Marge: "Oh Homer. You're only hearing what you want to hear."
Homer: "Thanks! I'd love an omelette right about now."
by LowcountryLion on Aug 30, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm immediately skeptical of your decision making skills...
She’s a Pitt grad from Erie.
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 30, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the response I was hoping for...
I love self-depricating humor. ;-)
It’s okay though, she’s currently pursuing her Master’s degree at Penn State via distance ed. So, I guess she’s a little wiser than she was originally.
Marge: "Oh Homer. You're only hearing what you want to hear."
Homer: "Thanks! I'd love an omelette right about now."
by LowcountryLion on Aug 30, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
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CHECK OUT THIS BITCHIN’ 717 MUSTACHE
YEAH, I BET HE MADE 30 GRAND BALING HAY ONE SUMMER WITH THAT BAD BOY!
THIS IS A LITTLE TOO NAVAL AVIATOR OR NEW YORK CITY (IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN) FOR THE 717, BUT, HEY, NTTAWT:
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Now let's go surprise Harry Heth!
by ReadingRambler on Aug 30, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Breakin down Fitzkee's stache
- I’m learning more and more about the allowable length. It’s something like: cannot protrude below the bottom of the lower lip.
- I still can’t tell what the length limit is on the upper lip, but there seems to be a fair bit of allowance there. I still haven’t seen a stache that is so furry, it descends over the top of the upper lip.
- He’s either got some growth (lack of) issues under the nose, or he over-trimmed there. I’m thinking the former, as it appears to go with his general pretty-boy* looks and feathery locks. Plus, further to the outside of each side, he’s got a few hairs which are descending over the lip and toward the mouth.
- Overall, a quite fine 1970’s Penn State Football Stache
C'mon jtot, let your freak flag fly!
Here’s what you need to aspire to.
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by Frank O'Brien on Aug 30, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
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I don’t dig on anti-gay innuendo, which I believe you are using with the Naval Aviator usage and, I presume, the ‘New York City, if you know what I mean’ one as well. Please correct me if I don’t indeed know what you mean. BSD has a boatload of readers every day and a sizable community of members as well. I’d be very surprised if none of those readers or members are themselves gay or lesbian, but I have never seen any of them ‘come out’ as such on here. By contrast, BHGP, which has a very clear, transparent and reminded policy against such innuendo, has made an environment comfortable enough for a few members of their community to do so. I understand that there is sentiment out there that ‘PC is a burden on the USA’, so apologies for soapboxing, but it’s more abhorrent to me to think BSD is becoming a place that is unwelcome for some of our readers/members to be themselves comfortably.
Also, it’s not that difficult.
by jtothep on Aug 30, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree completely, Jtot
Fire Dan Snyder
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I don't know what I missed, and just stumbled across this.
But discrimination, patent or latent, of any kind, will be treated with a zero tolerance policy. End of story.
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