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It's 1964, And Penn State Still Needs A Starting Quarterback

Today we're continuing our series on the history of Penn State quarterback battles. So far, we've covered 1970 and 1980. Now we're taking you way, way back, to when Joe Paterno was a mere mortal assistant coach under Rip Engle. We present, Penn State's quarterback controversy of 1964...


 
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In the grand scheme of things, nothing was particularly special about Penn State's 1964 season. Coming off of a 7-3 record the year before, 1964 would mark the second to last year of Rip Engle's 16 year stint as Penn State's head coach. And even though the Joe Paterno era hadn't even begun, he was already in the thick of some of the program's biggest decisions.

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While an assistant under Engle, Paterno had been given the authority to name the starting quarterback, and not unlike today, he picked the less popular player. At the time of summer practice, Paterno had to work with and choose from two candidates. Gary Wydman and Jack White. Gary Wydman, an unimpressive senior quarterback was battling injuries that had kept him off the field most of his career; while Jack White was expected to get the starting nod. For most Nittany Lion fans, this seemed to be an easy choice to make.

Wydman struggled in summer practices and even so Paterno continued to favor him in the race. Much to the dismay of almost everyone involved, when the time finally came Paterno named Wydman the starting quarterback.

As expected, Paterno's selection didn't go over well with fans, alums and the coaching staff. Despite several meetings and arguments to convince Paterno otherwise, Wydman maintained his status as starter. Penn State promptly fell to 1-4.

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With coaches and fans breathing down Paterno's neck, the tension finally boiled over at a cocktail party where Sunny Engle, Rip Engle's wife told Paterno that maybe it was time to change the quarterback. Frustrated and annoyed Paterno responded "Don't put in your two cents, Sunny. If Rip wants to change quarterbacks, you tell him to come see me himself." To say that Joe threw the hammer down would be an understatement.

As if to foreshadow Paterno's incoming reign of excellence, Wydman was never pulled from his starting spot and Paterno's faith paid off. Penn State went on to win their final 5 games of the season including a win over then #2 Ohio State in Columbus 27-0. The victory not only elevating Paterno's status, but also preventing Ohio State from any chances of a national title bid. It also provided the world with a great headline.

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Stay tuned for what will likely be the final edition of this series. What year will it be? Well, you'll just have to wait and find out!

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if we start 1-4 this year

and don’t change our quarterback, it will hit the fan.

"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who

by afields16 on Aug 4, 2011 8:08 AM EDT reply actions  

If Penn State starts 1-4 against

THESE first five opponents—Indiana State, Alabama, Eastern Michigan, Temple, Indiana—a whole lost more than just the starting quarterback better change.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 4, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your pants...

are rusty???

" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009

...

"...it smells like...victory..." Col. Kilgore

"Rambler can't have any power" ... He would be a tyrannical wielder of the the banhammer if he did. We couldn’t have: "Oh, you don’t like Iowa – banned." "You don’t like old country guys – banned" "You don’t like corn – banned" or "You’re a dirty rotten southern traitor – banned." It would be pure chaos." - Paige

by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 4, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe this is the infamous Ohio State game my dad told me about.

It was such a shocker. After the news hit Happy Valley, a bunch of students picked up a small car, carried it to the University President’s mansion, and threw it in the pond.

Kids those days.

by Chris Grovich on Aug 4, 2011 8:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I've always heard the pond story

but I never knew which game it was.

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by Ben Jones on Aug 4, 2011 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Addendum.

Apparently there was an annual ice sculpting contest of some sort back then. The winner this year was a half-submerged VW with the 27-0 score on it.

by Chris Grovich on Aug 4, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't tell anybody.....

I made a fast $500 on that game straight-up with a future in-law of mine….it was made with heart on my shirt sleeve, a little mix of stupidity and a blind love of PSU. Anyways, they even shocked me and I was sooo proud of PSU and as all of the “old folks” say, "$500 back then would be worth XXXX today. The girlfriend back then helped me spend the winnings and the rest I blew on some other games.

"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.

by DerryPharmer on Aug 4, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Derry, High Roller.

CPI Inflation Calculator
$ 500 in 1964

Has the same buying power as: $3,640.68

by Chris Grovich on Aug 4, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

The troll is strong with this one--Yoda

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by Ben Jones on Aug 4, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Haughty Buckeyes Powerless Before Lion Attack Force"

That’s gold.

"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."

by PSUtopia on Aug 4, 2011 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

1964...Haughty Buckeyes?

Nothing changes….crap still stinks.

"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.

by DerryPharmer on Aug 4, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Hapless Hoosiers"?

With firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right
- A.Lincoln

by SarcasmJam on Aug 4, 2011 9:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Blown-up Boilermakers
Belted Badgers
Garroted Gophers
Ill Illini
Weasely Wolverines
Stockaded Spartans

"Nein, ich bin Schnappi das kleine Krokodil."

by ReadingRambler on Aug 4, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crying Cornhuskers

They stole our NC waaahhhh!

"We're going to do all we can to get this team right, to go after that national championship" - Devon Still

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 4, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Save these for this season....

All I want to do is make the whole crowd bounce, y'all

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by Adam Collyer on Aug 4, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm... a paterno favoring a QB most fans dislike?

HAVEN’T HEARD THAT LINE BEFORE

"We're going to do all we can to get this team right, to go after that national championship" - Devon Still

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 4, 2011 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Great

So that means we have McGloin this year? haha

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Aug 4, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love this series

That’s all I got. Good work Ben.

by STU Boy on Aug 4, 2011 9:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I hate this series

Actually I like it too, Just have to keep your ego in check.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Aug 4, 2011 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. It's full of cliches, just like the rest of the new BSD.

All I want to do is make the whole crowd bounce, y'all

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by Adam Collyer on Aug 4, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont like the tone of it either

I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.

by skarocksoi on Aug 4, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

WE NEED MORE HARD NEWS!

Non of this H.R. Puffinstuff nonsense.

by STU Boy on Aug 4, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I came in looking for straight analysis

and all I get is a picture of Nick Cage?

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by Kyle_Martin on Aug 4, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love this series.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Aug 4, 2011 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Is the last one Casey vs. Thompson

or was that not as big a deal as I remember?

by kijana's acl on Aug 4, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember it being a huge deal

Since everyone know ’99 PSU was going to be preseason #1.

by STU Boy on Aug 4, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are doing it's 1986 and Penn State still needs a starting quarterback, right?

I've decided that it is a legitimate possibility that the Pirates might be decent.

by jesse. on Aug 4, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

PUT IN KNIZNER!

Skip to 1987

We have put in Knizner. He is awful. We are only winning because we have Blair Thomas.

"Nein, ich bin Schnappi das kleine Krokodil."

by ReadingRambler on Aug 4, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The pity of the whole thing...

Other than my prior reply fail, is the Kizner probably was better. But is a weird different way he was also worse. Regardless, the 1986 team is most concrete evidence I’ve ever seen to support the existence of a higher power.

I've decided that it is a legitimate possibility that the Pirates might be decent.

by jesse. on Aug 4, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no way that Knizner was better.

I think everyone loved him in ‘86 because 1) He was the backup and 2) he had thrown a single pass against Alabama in a close game the year before. It’s just that that pass was for a touchdown that sealed the game and it was the next play after Shaffer had been injured.

Knizner was and is a good guy and a credit to the program (All we really should ask), but, seriously, there is no way Knizner showed enough in ’87 to prove he was better than anyone except, maybe, maybe Zack Mills.

"Nein, ich bin Schnappi das kleine Krokodil."

by ReadingRambler on Aug 4, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You ARE joking about Knizner & Mills, right?

Mills was certainly better than Knizner. They did wear the same jersey # though, so they were equal in that regard.

Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.

by icavalera on Aug 5, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

You may have a point there.

But 2001 and 2002 Mills was definitely better than Knizner.

Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.

by icavalera on Aug 5, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm done repeating myself...

From 2009;

Anybody, and I mean anybody, who looks at you and tells that at no point in 1986 they did not scream (by scream, I mean profanity laced tirade) "put in Matt Kizner" is a liar. While obviously you had to watch the games age is no excuse. Seriously, John Shaffer (whom I love for different reasons) was not a pleasant experience. It was kind of like a root canal, even though they usually end well, you want to kill yourself they’re happening.

I've decided that it is a legitimate possibility that the Pirates might be decent.

by jesse. on Aug 4, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

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