It's 1964, And Penn State Still Needs A Starting Quarterback
Today we're continuing our series on the history of Penn State quarterback battles. So far, we've covered 1970 and 1980. Now we're taking you way, way back, to when Joe Paterno was a mere mortal assistant coach under Rip Engle. We present, Penn State's quarterback controversy of 1964...
In the grand scheme of things, nothing was particularly special about Penn State's 1964 season. Coming off of a 7-3 record the year before, 1964 would mark the second to last year of Rip Engle's 16 year stint as Penn State's head coach. And even though the Joe Paterno era hadn't even begun, he was already in the thick of some of the program's biggest decisions.
While an assistant under Engle, Paterno had been given the authority to name the starting quarterback, and not unlike today, he picked the less popular player. At the time of summer practice, Paterno had to work with and choose from two candidates. Gary Wydman and Jack White. Gary Wydman, an unimpressive senior quarterback was battling injuries that had kept him off the field most of his career; while Jack White was expected to get the starting nod. For most Nittany Lion fans, this seemed to be an easy choice to make.
Wydman struggled in summer practices and even so Paterno continued to favor him in the race. Much to the dismay of almost everyone involved, when the time finally came Paterno named Wydman the starting quarterback.
As expected, Paterno's selection didn't go over well with fans, alums and the coaching staff. Despite several meetings and arguments to convince Paterno otherwise, Wydman maintained his status as starter. Penn State promptly fell to 1-4.
With coaches and fans breathing down Paterno's neck, the tension finally boiled over at a cocktail party where Sunny Engle, Rip Engle's wife told Paterno that maybe it was time to change the quarterback. Frustrated and annoyed Paterno responded "Don't put in your two cents, Sunny. If Rip wants to change quarterbacks, you tell him to come see me himself." To say that Joe threw the hammer down would be an understatement.
As if to foreshadow Paterno's incoming reign of excellence, Wydman was never pulled from his starting spot and Paterno's faith paid off. Penn State went on to win their final 5 games of the season including a win over then #2 Ohio State in Columbus 27-0. The victory not only elevating Paterno's status, but also preventing Ohio State from any chances of a national title bid. It also provided the world with a great headline.
Stay tuned for what will likely be the final edition of this series. What year will it be? Well, you'll just have to wait and find out!
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if we start 1-4 this year
and don’t change our quarterback, it will hit the fan.

"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who
If Penn State starts 1-4 against
THESE first five opponents—Indiana State, Alabama, Eastern Michigan, Temple, Indiana—a whole lost more than just the starting quarterback better change.
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
by Mike Pettigano on Aug 4, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Your pants...
are rusty???
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
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"...it smells like...victory..." Col. Kilgore
"Rambler can't have any power" ... He would be a tyrannical wielder of the the banhammer if he did. We couldn’t have: "Oh, you don’t like Iowa – banned." "You don’t like old country guys – banned" "You don’t like corn – banned" or "You’re a dirty rotten southern traitor – banned." It would be pure chaos." - Paige
by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 4, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe this is the infamous Ohio State game my dad told me about.
It was such a shocker. After the news hit Happy Valley, a bunch of students picked up a small car, carried it to the University President’s mansion, and threw it in the pond.
Kids those days.
I've always heard the pond story
but I never knew which game it was.
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Addendum.
Apparently there was an annual ice sculpting contest of some sort back then. The winner this year was a half-submerged VW with the 27-0 score on it.
by Chris Grovich on Aug 4, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't tell anybody.....
I made a fast $500 on that game straight-up with a future in-law of mine….it was made with heart on my shirt sleeve, a little mix of stupidity and a blind love of PSU. Anyways, they even shocked me and I was sooo proud of PSU and as all of the “old folks” say, "$500 back then would be worth XXXX today. The girlfriend back then helped me spend the winnings and the rest I blew on some other games.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
Derry, High Roller.
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$ 500 in 1964
Has the same buying power as: $3,640.68
by Chris Grovich on Aug 4, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
"Haughty Buckeyes Powerless Before Lion Attack Force"
That’s gold.
"He's a beast. But so am I. So let the beasting begin."
1964...Haughty Buckeyes?
Nothing changes….crap still stinks.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.
I can't think of a more accurate phrase in history than "Haughty Buckeyes".
"Nein, ich bin Schnappi das kleine Krokodil."
"Hapless Hoosiers"?
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by SarcasmJam on Aug 4, 2011 9:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Blown-up Boilermakers
Belted Badgers
Garroted Gophers
Ill Illini
Weasely Wolverines
Stockaded Spartans
"Nein, ich bin Schnappi das kleine Krokodil."
by ReadingRambler on Aug 4, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Crying Cornhuskers
They stole our NC waaahhhh!
"We're going to do all we can to get this team right, to go after that national championship" - Devon Still
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 4, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Save these for this season....
All I want to do is make the whole crowd bounce, y'all
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 4, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Wolverines STINK, at least according to MSN mainpage today, skunk bears for a reason.
My grammer skills need improved.
Hmmm... a paterno favoring a QB most fans dislike?
HAVEN’T HEARD THAT LINE BEFORE
"We're going to do all we can to get this team right, to go after that national championship" - Devon Still
Love this series
That’s all I got. Good work Ben.
Thanks, it has been a lot of fun to put together
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I hate this series
Actually I like it too, Just have to keep your ego in check.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
Meh. It's full of cliches, just like the rest of the new BSD.
All I want to do is make the whole crowd bounce, y'all
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 4, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
WE NEED MORE HARD NEWS!
Non of this H.R. Puffinstuff nonsense.
I came in looking for straight analysis
and all I get is a picture of Nick Cage?
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I remember it being a huge deal
Since everyone know ’99 PSU was going to be preseason #1.
You are doing it's 1986 and Penn State still needs a starting quarterback, right?
I've decided that it is a legitimate possibility that the Pirates might be decent.
PUT IN KNIZNER!
Skip to 1987
We have put in Knizner. He is awful. We are only winning because we have Blair Thomas.
"Nein, ich bin Schnappi das kleine Krokodil."
by ReadingRambler on Aug 4, 2011 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The pity of the whole thing...
Other than my prior reply fail, is the Kizner probably was better. But is a weird different way he was also worse. Regardless, the 1986 team is most concrete evidence I’ve ever seen to support the existence of a higher power.
I've decided that it is a legitimate possibility that the Pirates might be decent.
There is no way that Knizner was better.
I think everyone loved him in ‘86 because 1) He was the backup and 2) he had thrown a single pass against Alabama in a close game the year before. It’s just that that pass was for a touchdown that sealed the game and it was the next play after Shaffer had been injured.
Knizner was and is a good guy and a credit to the program (All we really should ask), but, seriously, there is no way Knizner showed enough in ’87 to prove he was better than anyone except, maybe, maybe Zack Mills.
"Nein, ich bin Schnappi das kleine Krokodil."
by ReadingRambler on Aug 4, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You ARE joking about Knizner & Mills, right?
Mills was certainly better than Knizner. They did wear the same jersey # though, so they were equal in that regard.
Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.
I'm not sure 2004 Mills was better than Knizner.
"Nein, ich bin Schnappi das kleine Krokodil."
by ReadingRambler on Aug 5, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
You may have a point there.
But 2001 and 2002 Mills was definitely better than Knizner.
Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.
I'm done repeating myself...
From 2009;
Anybody, and I mean anybody, who looks at you and tells that at no point in 1986 they did not scream (by scream, I mean profanity laced tirade) "put in Matt Kizner" is a liar. While obviously you had to watch the games age is no excuse. Seriously, John Shaffer (whom I love for different reasons) was not a pleasant experience. It was kind of like a root canal, even though they usually end well, you want to kill yourself they’re happening.
I've decided that it is a legitimate possibility that the Pirates might be decent.
by jesse. on Aug 4, 2011 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

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