Penn State Position Previews 2011: Quarterbacks
If you were to ask Rob Bolden what he would be doing around 1:30 PM on October 23rd, sitting on the ground in the middle of Minnesota's brand new stadium wouldn't have been his answer. But yet there he was. Head in hands, ears ringing, and Dr. Wayne Sebastianelli talking to him as he has so many unlucky student athletes. It didn't make sense to Rob, certainly a few things didn't make sense to him as he fought through the hazy cloud that was his brain. But he walked to bench after throwing for 130 yards and a touchdown, missing just two passes--both drops--in just over a quarter's worth of work. He was finally finding his stride. This wasn't how it worked out in the movies, and it definitely wasn't how Rob had seen his day ending.
When Penn State's offense took the field a possession later, Matt McGloin, a fiery red-headed gunslinger from Scranton PA was calling out the plays from the huddle in Bolden's absence. McGloin threw two touchdowns and an interception that day, unintentionally sparking one of the hottest quarterback controversies of the past decade for Nittany Lion fans. Moxie against Poise and Attitude against Potential. The debate was born.
Rob Bolden
Stats:
- 112/193 for 1360 yards (58%)
- 5 Touchdowns
- 7 Interceptions
- 118.5 QB Rating
The Overview:
What makes Rob Bolden such an interesting story isn't what he did on the field in 2010 as much as it is what he could do in the future. The level of poise and maturity he has shown in the pocket is inspiring, but is also coupled with unfortunate, but expected mistakes. In a lot of ways Bolden is a referendum on Penn State's quarterback development program. He brings the tools, and the skills to be developed into a great player, but he'll need some help getting there. If Penn State isn't able to take him to the next level, it might say more about coaching than it does Bolden.
What Else?
Simply put, Bolden put up good numbers against good teams. Against Iowa, Bolden managed to total more passing yards in one game than Darryl Clark did in his two games combined against the Hawkeyes. Facing a tough Alabama defense, Bolden held his own 144 yards in a performance that was probably better than the score, and his two interceptions might indicate. Playing Temple, Bolden lead the Nittany Lions on an impressive 96 yard touchdown drive that picked apart one of the nations best pass defenses.
While his 8 for 21 performance against Illinois shows up as a black mark on his record, there isn't any doubt that Rob Bolden has what it takes to grow into a talented player. In a lot of ways, Penn State was using a high school quarterback against some of the nations best defenses, and they were competitive.
But Does He Start?
Yes.
Between a good offseason workout and spring camps Bolden should be in position to win back his starting job. He'll need to insure that he's moving forward with relationships on the team that could have become stressed over possible transfers, but there isn't any reason to think he can't beat out Matt McGloin for the second straight season. If anything, Bolden should be a better player in almost every aspect heading into camp. McGloin for the most part has hit his ceiling. Bolden is still growing.
*But
If Rob Bolden is going to win his starting job back he needs to do two things. Gain a little weight, and become a more vocal leader. The rest of his development should be what comes with time on the college level and working with coaches. That being said, Bolden needs to develop the leadership habits that his teammates can respond to. That isn't to say that he was a bad leader while starting, but that his soft spoken personality may only work for so long.
Matt McGloin
Stats:
- 118/215 for 1548 (54.9%)
- 14 Touchdowns
- 9 Interceptions
- 128.5 QB Rating
The Overview:
Matt McGloin might be the most confusing quarterback you'll ever watch. In all aspects of his game he is far from a great quarterback. He looks down his targets, he throws the ball into places that he shouldn't, and he tends to dwell on his last throw a little too much. All of that aside, he gets the job done, which makes it hard to bench him.
Clearly, if you've made it this far into the article you're fairly well versed in how last season played out for the Nittany Lions. McGloin took apart several bad defenses when he was called upon, and then wasn't quite up to the task when it came to OSU, MSU, and Florida. It's textbook"average" quarterback. Not good, not bad, but okay.
In McGloin's defense though, he made several great throws last season, doesn't get enough credit for beating Northwestern, and probably is disliked more for his off the field attitude more than anything else. He was the spark that the team needed when they were looking for a leader. He's got moxie and he isn't afraid to tell people. If McGloin should be remembered positively for anything last year, it was in fact, whether we like it or not, saving the season. While there is a lot to be said for the teams that McGloin played against, he still went out and put up pretty good numbers.
What Else?
If one was going to measure Joe Paterno's power as of 2011, Matt McGloin would be that measuring stick. Paterno, who by all accounts is going 110% this year, is fighting for his final chances to get on to the Beaver Stadium field, calls some plays, and make a run at whatever he has in his sights. But even Paterno can't have it all. Last year, the coaches held a vote to decide the starting quarterback ( An interesting idea to say the least. Imagine Blackledge becoming starter via-vote) where Paterno was the only coach to vote for McGloin. If Paterno is truly running at full capacity he'll get what he wants. He might be spending too much of his coin on himself though.
But Does He Start?
It wouldn't be shocking to see McGloin start. If it wasn't for his performance against Florida I don't think the idea would make as many people upset. That being said, it seems as though McGloin is the underdog in the race. Bolden in all likelihood wouldn't have returned to Penn State if he thought he had no shot to win the job back, which I think he has a pretty good shot at doing. That being said, McGloin's starting job is somewhat out of his hands if he has an average camp. There are just too many things working against him.
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Both guys are a year older and got a lot of meaningful minutes
They’ve also spent a lot of time with DC17 and have been forced to compete against a not bad QB (not great, no, but neither McGloin or Bolden was bad last year) all year. They’re coached by a guy who has produced 2 Big Ten Champion, silver football winning QBs in the past 6 years. Whoever the guy ends up being, I feel really good about the position as a whole.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
by ckmneon on Aug 8, 2011 8:26 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
SPECULATION!
There are not-unexpected rumors that this decision
Whoever the guy ends up being
has already been made.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Aug 8, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I totally expect that Joe is leaning one way right now
but I don’t believe anything is close to being written in stone. I mean, at this point last year, Rob Bolden had been in practice in front of Joe about 5 times, right? He ended up being the guy.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Silas Redd against NW
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Dude, seriously
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 8, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
This drives me nuts...
In a lot of ways Bolden is a referendum on Penn State’s quarterback development program. He brings the tools, and the skills to be developed into a great player, but he’ll need some help getting there. If Penn State isn’t able to take him to the next level, it might say more about coaching than it does Bolden.
Is he really? Why him and not Daryll Clark, who was a no name high school player that turned into a star here? Or Anthony Morelli, who had all the physical tools but couldn’t put it together in a meaningful way?
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I'd say Clark was good from the get-go
Bolden has work to do. Morelli would be another case of Bolden-isms
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I disagree
If Clark was that good from the get go, we’d have heard more calls for him over he-who-must-not-be-named. And, there wouldn’t have been such an outcry that he got the starting nod over Devlin.
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by Cari Greene on Aug 8, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And not to turn this into an OMG STARZZZZ debate
but he probably would have had more than a 2-star rating and a handful of FCS offers.
Whomever Joe picks at QB.....
someone and everybody will not be happy. Of course, hindsight is always is 20-20 and the same type of conversation was taking place between DC17 and Devlin a few years back. DC17 became one of our better QBs going 22-4 and Devlin did ok at Delaware eventually going on to their playoffs. As soon as the “starter” this year makes a mistake eg. interception, bad throw, fumble, sack, WE’ll be calling for the best QB ever to play, you know, the 2nd string guy. It’s going to very, very interesting and I, for one, plan to be a witness to all of the proceedings…GO PS!!!!!
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I still wish I had an alternate reality team.
To see how we would have done had Devlin stuck around. I wonder if he would take back his transfer choice now if he could, seeing as he went undrafted after all that anyway.
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If McGloin beats out Bolden, it says a lot more about Bolden than either McGloin, Paterno or the program. Bolden has more raw talent than McGloin, but does he have the work ethic?
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Agreed
While I do absolutely believe that Bolden meant what he said in July about being a new man with a new attitude, if he can’t win this job this month, it’s 100% on him.
The opportunity is screaming his name. Will he answer it?
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 8, 2011 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Right
@Because if we learned anything from the bowl game, it’s that Bolden has been given every opportunity
to win back the job@
by kijana's acl on Aug 8, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant this summer.
If I’m accused of anything, it’s definitely not saying Bolden has been given a fair chance.
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 8, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to say McGloin is more of a noodle-slinger than a gun slinger
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by pmm156 on Aug 8, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
There's no way anyone can tell me
that 2 experienced Qbs isn’t better than 0 experienced QBs. The team is better off this year by a long shot.
by Brett Brown on Aug 8, 2011 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm with you
I see it as we have two very good options. Everyone expects Bolden to look a lot better, but I also expect McGloin is a year wiser and more realistic about his athletic ability. The Outback Bowl has to have been a huge learning experience for him about taking what the defense gives you. I think he’ll be better.
All that said, and before people yell at me for saying anything nice about Matt McGloin, I think and hope Bolden will be the guy on opening day. They were pretty even last year, but I suspect Bolden made a lot more progress this offseason. My big concern with him is confidence. He got roughed up pretty bad last year and then he got benched for it. I hope that didn’t hurt his psyche.
by BSD on Aug 8, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Great points all around there.
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 8, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
100% truth
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Agree with your comment about his confidence.
I also wonder how quick the coaching staff is going to be in making a switch if things don’t go well for whomever wins the starting job. Having 2 competent QB’s is a good thing, but that also leads to calls for a quick hook if things start going poorly. And I’m sure that will have to come across Bolden’s mind if he wins the job and struggles a bit, say against Bama. I’m sure he’ll be wondering how long it might be before he sees McGloin throwing on the sideline. Does that make him less aggressive, trying to not make a mistake?
I think we have seen Penn State coaches reluctant to yank a QB
even when he is struggling. Exhibit A: Bowl game against Florida.
Thinking optimistically: Bolden has corrected all noted faults (inability to sell the play-action, weak running, lack of leadership, etc., etc., etc.), is named the starter, and leads the Lions to an outstanding season. McGloin accepts the situation with grace and dignity, and does not transfer to a D-III school like Northwest East Alcorn State Home for Wayward Mothers.
I am using the “wishful thinking” font, not the “sarcasm” one.
Based on the depth chart alone, I hope the last sentence of the 2nd paragraph doesn't happen.
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Agreed, AC.
I think McGloin will stick around, if only because he can hope for a repeat of last year: Bolden gets hurt, and the Red Baron inherits the position.
Don’t mean to imply McGloin would hope for Bolden to be injured — trying to convey that McGloin might be content to wait to see if RoBo is yanked.
This is an interesting dynamic: How do coaches prevail upon a former starting QB to gracefully accept the clipboard? Do they remind McGloin that he had his moment in the sun, and that the team is best served with RoBo as the QB? Do they offer him as much PT as they can? ???
Bolden's confidence...
If you remember back to last year, one of his main issues was, not so much moving the ball in general, but his red zone efficiency (think bama and Iowa). His confidence will be directly in proportion to the amount of success he generates getting the team in the endzone within the 20. I know it is simple, but it will do a world’s difference to the confidence in his own ability to lead this team.
Red Zone play-calling was horrific
Run on 1st and 2nd down, pass on 3rd. Lather, rinse, repeat. Bama and Iowa were bad, but the Temple game also stands out to me. A lot of field goals kept that damn game too close.
Now that Bolden has a better handle of the playbook (which he didn’t, say, last October, being only a couple months removed from Senior Prom) I’m sure his performance in the red zone will be much improved with the handcuffs taken away.
I think the fear of failure (aka, lack of confidence)
is the only thing that will inhibit this team. If you believe at least part of what you read, we should have a very good-to-great defense (LBs and secondary are supposedly strong, and even with Massaro out, it appears the line is stout and at least two-deep). I am guardedly optimistic about the O-line, and almost giddy about the RBs and slot/wide receivers. As I noted before, these positives should reduce the mental pressure on the QB. I think last year both QBs felt that every play had to be a home run (to mix sports metaphors); no real reason for them to stress like that this year.
And, not to be neglectful, special teams should be okay. I expect the back-up LBs and some of the other young studs to be a presence on kick/punt coverage. Hopefully Ficken/Fera excel at the kicks, themselves.
Certainly more reason for optimism this year, no doubt
LBs will certainly be better, as I feel Colisanti and Gbadyu graduating are addition by subtraction. There’s no question our back-7 will be solid, and yes, even without Massaro our D-Line should be OK.
Like you, I am guardedly optimistic about the O-Line.
Omar, how about the RBs/receivers?
Obviously the receivers are dependent upon the QB, but a good receiver can make a mediocre QB look good. The opposite is not as true.
I think we'll do well either way
But I think at this point, we’re better off starting McGloin. He really doesn’t get enough credit for the Northwestern comeback, or for keeping pace with Denard Robinson’s offense. He had a few awful mistakes last year, and he needs to show that he can stop making those; if he can just do that, I think he’ll end up being a pretty good QB.
As for Bolden, he still has a redshirt to take, which would allow him to be the undisputed starter for both his Junior and Senior years (depending on what happens with Paul Jones).
More than that, though, I think Bolden will only get better with time. Remember Joe’s old saying: “I’d rather play a kid a year too late than a week too early?” Well, Bolden got thrown in there too early last year. I think he could really benefit from having a couple seasons to develop his skills without dealing with the pressure that’s put on a starter.
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by newenglandnittanylion on Aug 8, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions
or for keeping pace with Denard Robinson’s offense
Thank you GERG.
I do agree that McGloin doesn’t get enough credit for that end of 1st half drive against jNW. Ultimately, our running game was what mauled that defense, but without that drive the team could have easily packed it in down 3 TDs at half.
The whole team seemed to play with more spark (or dare I say, Moxie) with McGloin
I don’t know if it is just an impression, but in my mind, the whole team seemed to play with more energy and emotion with McGloin under center. For whatever reason, a lot of the team seemed to sleepwalk with Bolden. I don’t know if there is a way to quantify, but it was my impression in watching the games last season. Can anyone think of a way to quantify?
by dontcallmescooter on Aug 8, 2011 10:26 AM EDT reply actions
Sure
It’s called a running game, improved offensive line, fewer injuries, and better playcalling.
All of which we saw right out of the gate against Minnesota following the bye week… with Bolden taking the snaps.
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by Mike Pettigano on Aug 8, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
To start with, I am a Bolden fan
But it seemed like with the fire that McMoxie had, he would not hesitate to get in a player’s face if they messed up an assignment and call them out on it. There was accountability and the young team seemed to play better with that. Bolden was fresh out of HS and I am sure he was a little timid to grab a couple facemasks and show some ferocity.
I hope that Bolden can find his way of leading this team, if so, watch out for the Lions the next three years.
I am truly intrigued as to the rationale of why
we would be worse this year than last year. Is it because Newsome’s gone? Because he was a non-factor last year. that’s the only justification I can see for anyone saying we’ll be worse at the QB situation. Can someone who voted for that option help enlighten me?
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THE DL WON’T IMPROVE BECAUSE HURRRR DURRRR GO OHIO STATE AND THE SECONDARY IS BAD BECAUSE OHIO STATE BRINGS IN A TRANSFER FROM FSU AND EVEN THOUGH HE COULDN’T CUT IT THERE HE’LL BE A STARTER GO.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 8, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
If I didn't know any better
I would think you were an actual OSU fan. The only thing that might have given you away is the fact that you used the subject line.
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by skarocksoi on Aug 8, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
But honestly, if Bolden doesn't improve any bit of leadership
Then it’s a 50-50 split for me. Leadership is the most important trait for any QB in my opinion, and McGloin definitely outclassed Bolden there.
Then you have the measurables and Bolden smokes McGloin there.
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Aug 8, 2011 10:46 AM EDT reply actions
Both QB's *should* be better.
I mean, I’d hate to see what regression would look like. It’ll come down to the offensive line, to be honest. Create a viable running game and either QB can flourish.
A regression would look like 2010 Michigan's offense, except different in style
Against common opponents with winning records (@OSU, vs. MSU):
McGloin: QB score of 90 (includes rushing, but not TDs), 4 TDs
Denard: QB score of 35, 3 TDs
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Yeah, I'll take my chances with Denard behind center instead of McGloin.
by Chris Grovich on Aug 8, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
And I don't mean that to sound dickish, so I'll expound a bit.
I’D RATHER HAVE DENARD, THANK YOU.
by Chris Grovich on Aug 8, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Kid's electric
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by Adam Collyer on Aug 8, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
And what you win
is a guy who can single handedly dominate terrible teams and is a toxic trash can fire (electric, though!) against a defense with a pulse.
McGloin, in contrast, is a guy who is more than adequate to dominate terrible teams and a non-toxic, milder, moxier trash can fire against defenses with a pulse.
Given a choice between the two, I’d commit suicide take McGloin. In reality, give me a year older, more seasoned Bolden.
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by ckmneon on Aug 8, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Speaking of Denard, has anyone read how Hoke is changing the offense at scUM?
I heard it was going to be a different offense, so I’m wondering how Denard will adapt to that. Not that it really matters since we don’t play them (potentially), but it just reminds me of RichRod coming in and damning himself to failure by trying to implement a system with the wrong personnel.
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Bolden's biggest problem by all accounts was his lack of vocality.
He was quiet in the huddle. He looked scared on the field a bit. Wide eyes, etc. If he’s got that under control, he’ll win the job, and we’re going to have an amazing year. MNC or bust IMO.
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You are dead-nuts right-on with the music issue! One of the things that makes college football so much better than the NFL is the pageantry, including the band.
And btw, I’m biased, but does anyone else think OSU’s band is highly overrated? They call themselves TBDBITL, but they only know one effin’ song, “Hang on Sloopy,” which also happens to be the most annoying effin’ song of all time. And Script Ohio is okay, but does anyone other than OSU fans really think it’s all that great? Is there really a degree of difficulty to it that I’m not seeing? Doesn’t look any more difficult than some of the other things I’ve seen from other bands.
More Blue Band!
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Bolden's Problems
Bolden has 2 major problems to overcome:
1) He has problems picking up and avoiding the blitz. McGloin handled this very well. Some of the body fakes he put on the blitzing linebacker were beautiful to watch.
2) His running style is timid and may be part of the reason he got hurt.
Play action fakes
Bolden’s play action fakes were miserable and never improved. That needs to change.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
Less pressure on the QB = better performance
There was a similar discussion going on at another site, so I am just cutting-and-pasting my response from there:
I know offenses can’t afford to be one-dimensional any more, but with a more stable/more experienced line and Redd/Green/Dukes/ Beachum in the backfield and Smith/Drake/maybe Belton in the slot, the pressure on the QB should be minimal. The QB should therefore be relaxed — not feeling he has to make a big play every down. With Newsome leaving, I think that tips the odds towards Bolden. Surely the coaches won’t pick McGloin, and take the chance that Bolden would transfer, leaving nothing but walk-on QBs behind. Not suggesting we should ever be held hostage to one player, but it seems the majority of us believe that RoBo’s upside is far higher than McGloin’s.
Play Bolden, and he should be a solid junior next year. Skyler comes in, understudies with RoBo for two years (one as a redshirt), and plays with three years’ eligibility.
Like you, 8, I prefer to rely on a stout defense who can control the line of scrimmage and shorten the field for a competent offense.
Watching the Northwestern game again right now. So much erratic play — hopefully caused by inexperience that has been replaced by maturity, leadership and a desire to be consistently excellent.
Coach will select
whom he views is most ready/prepared to lead the team going into game #1. Whomever is #2 – and using the poll as reference – we most likely will be able to navigate most games schemed play-calling with that QB and manage the game for the W, and with perhaps more confidence than last year.
Great Post Ben! Enjoyed both video recaps as well!
I think I have finally put my finger on one of the key differences between Redd and Green that had eluded me. If you watched both of them in these videos, Green goes down pretty easily with the ankle slaps/contact. Redd either anticipates it better or feels/reacts to that contact quicker…and he picks-up his kness/raises he feet better/more instinctively. Now, both of their strides and ‘gears’ are obviously different too; Green has a much longer stride. He’s the straight-ahead burner. It is what it is in that respect. His natural form has its limits; but when he does get out ahead…and has a second to view the field/opposing players locations…dude’s trucking!
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Green vs. Redd
Great observations, BWL! To take it a step further, Redd’s running style resembles Royster’s: Short, choppy steps that help him keep his feet under his shoulders (i.e., better balance).
Redd is also more instinctive about contact. There was a run in the Northwestern game where he was being run down from behind, and as soon as the contact came he wrapped up the ball.
Devon Smith would be advised to study Royster/Redd’s style. He gets his shoulders way out over this feet, and winds up tripping over yard lines and a blade of grass that is 0.003 microns higher than the ones next to it.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Aug 8, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If he could lean back and lower his center of gravity, that kid would be a force.
He’s ridiculously fast but has no sense of balance and no wiggle. Straight line speed. Redd has these jump cuts that are really impressive. Royster was shiftier than almost anyone I’ve ever seen. He had this ability to cut on a dime and change direction with subtle, fluid movements. You didn’t even know he had changed direction until you saw him glide past a tackler.
Too bad his senior year was such a struggle, because he deserves to be better remembered.
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Yeah...
just like KiJana corrected his form.
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"Rambler can't have any power" ... He would be a tyrannical wielder of the the banhammer if he did. We couldn’t have: "Oh, you don’t like Iowa – banned." "You don’t like old country guys – banned" "You don’t like corn – banned" or "You’re a dirty rotten southern traitor – banned." It would be pure chaos." - Paige
by BlueWhiteLife on Aug 8, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, yo!
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"...it smells like...victory..." Col. Kilgore
"Rambler can't have any power" ... He would be a tyrannical wielder of the the banhammer if he did. We couldn’t have: "Oh, you don’t like Iowa – banned." "You don’t like old country guys – banned" "You don’t like corn – banned" or "You’re a dirty rotten southern traitor – banned." It would be pure chaos." - Paige
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