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Penn State Depth Chartin': Temple

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It's time to move on and focus toward Saturday. Penn State has a very nice three-game stretch to find out what kind of team it wants to be in 2011. The quarterback situation remains (at least to one man) a toss-up, a mess to most others. But overall there is now a concrete lineup to count on as the season progresses.

It's time to look at and project this week's depth chart.

Aside from the guys OFY (out for the year), hopefully things are settling down on the injury front. Chima Okoli will return this week, and Andrew Szczerba is obviously full-strength since he played last week. In the larger scheme of things, everything is straight forward this week. The quarterbacks, unfortunately, remain the same as this time last week. The running backs and recievers are set, though I did move Allen Robinson up to the second team and Curtis Drake seems to be officially back from his broken leg but not yet 100 percent. When Drake does go full-speed it will be a big help as he's more of a slash guy in the mold of Derrick Williams. Robinson's been getting a lot more playing time than I expected this season.

The offensive line played well last week, and should improve each week they don't have to deal with lineup shuffling as happened in 2009 and 2010. Mike Farrell is still doubtful, so he's out of the three-deep. Donovan Smith also enters the chart as a third-team tackle.

Star-divide

The defense will be the same. But special teams saw some changes I didn't anticipate last week. Adrian Amos was back to field some kickoffs against Alabama. So he gets bumped up into that lineup. Evan Lewis launched and made a 43-yarder last week. Hopefully he just needed to get back into the kicking swing of things and will now settle down into the job.  

Off.First TeamSecond TeamReserves
QB #1 Rob Bolden #11 Matthew McGloin #2 Shane McGregor
RB #25 Silas Redd #3 Brandon Beachum #26 Curtis Dukes
#21 Stephfon Green
FB #37 Joe Suhey #9 Michael Zordich #40 Zach Zwinak
TE #80 Andrew Szczerba #10 Kevin Haplea #82 Brian Irvin
WR #6 Derek Moye  #8 Allen Robinson #7 Curtis Drake
WR #81 Shawney Kersey #85 Brandon Moseby-Felder #17 Christian Kuntz
WR #19 Justin Brown #20 Devon Smith #16 Ryan Scherer
OT #67 Quinn Barham #70 Nate Cadogan  #76 Donovan Smith
OG  #74 Johnnie Troutman #73 Mark Acidacono #75 Eric Shrive
OC #54 Matt Stankiewitch #60 Ty Howle #65 Miles Dieffenbach
OG #50 DeOn'tae Pannell #64 John Urschel #62 Frank Figueroa
OT #52 Chima Okoli #58 Adam Gress #76 Donovan Smith
Def.First TeamSecond TeamReserves
DE #56 Eric Latimore #90 Sean Stanley #31 Brad Bars
DT #47 Jordan Hill #93 James Terry #92 Anthony Alosi
DT #71 Devon Still #91 DaQuan Jones #75 Evan Hailes
DE #81 Jack Crawford #86 C.J. Olaniyan #84 Kyle Baublitz
Fritz #6 Gerald Hodges #43 Mike Hull  
Bckr #40 Glenn Carson #11 Khairi Fortt #33 Michael Yancich
Sam #42 Michael Mauti #34 Nate Stupar #54 James Van Fleet
CB #8 D'Anton Lynn  #12 Stephon Morris
H #28 Drew Astorino #10 Malcolm Willis
S #1 Nick Sukay #7 Stephen Obeng-Agyapong #27 Jake Fagnano
NB #8 D'Anton Lynn #2 Chaz Powell #5 Derrick Thomas
CB #2 Chaz Powell #14 Mike Wallace #15 Alex Kenney
Sp.First TeamSecond TeamReserves
K  #4 Evan Lewis #97 Sam Ficken #30 Anthony Fera
P #45 Alex Butterworth #30 Anthony Fera (KOS)
KR #2 Chaz Powell #20 Devon Smith  #4 Adrian Amos
PR #20 Devon Smith #19 Justin Brown  
LS #60 Ty Howle #53 Jon Rohrbaugh #57 Emery Etter
SH #23 Ryan Keiser  

 

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I think kick offs are pretty important this week. Temple had a pretty good guy last year and I believe has one this year too.

Not sure how to read Haplea’s indescretion. They are not saying who handed him the beer, it may have been a parent and that is why they are having trouble deciding if they are citing the person that gave him the beer. If it was, I can see little to no doghouse time. Like the play of the Robinson kid. Goes all out and has pretty good size.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Sep 16, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm surprised to see a true frosh Allen Robinson relatively high on the depth chart.

As chris/kevin pointed out on the podcast, I don’t quite understand why he was seeing so much time against alabama.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 16, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

They did the same thing with Kersey last year

He ripped off that big reverse at Bama for like 40 yards. Maybe they wanted to do the same

Predicting Penn State's Offensive Scripts since 2005!

by Kunza on Sep 16, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well with our JR WRs dropping balls

that too…

Predicting Penn State's Offensive Scripts since 2005!

by Kunza on Sep 16, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing has been more personally frustrating than the WRs so far this season.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I know..

These guys were supposed to be the strengths of the offense.

And I believe J. Brown was like a 5 star guy. Suck it, star rating system.

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 16, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been lamenting our receiver's lack of soft hands

and inability to find the handle for several years now. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s going to end any time soon.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

OUR wideouts

Stupid lack of spell check and fast typing

by Altoona Man on Sep 16, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

They need Stickum like in the good old days...

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude!

that picture is classic!!!

it looks like he’s making pancakes or scrambled eggs…with his hands

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Sep 16, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

John Madden certainly thinks so.

Opinions are like f---holes. Everyone has at least two.

by WorldBFat on Sep 16, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Supposed to be

but nothing sticks like hands coated in pine sap. They banned it ’cause it worked so well and also screwed up so many footballs.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a monument to Kirk Bowman

who only caught two passes at Penn State, both for TDs against Nebraska.

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The offense has been so stagnant

that we haven’t seen much of what Robinson can do on the field. But I’d imagine that if he’s good enough to be out there, he’s good enough to be out there.

Remember, they’re redshirting Bill Belton, who was one of those “OMG” guys on the message boards all summer. But I did call that, even when talking to people “in the know,” as I said with Curtis Drake still likely to play, no reason to play Belton. I was right.

I’d actually love to see PSU run up the score a bit early this week, by at least four scores by halftime. Likelihood of that aside, it would finally allow the lower guys like Curtis Dukes, Robinson, Adrian Amos and, hell, even Matt McGloin (if he doesn’t play in the third or fourth drive of the game, gawd forbid) to get more snaps on the field. It’s only game three, but I want to see the younger guys get lots of playing time the next two weeks… even three weeks if INdiana is the blowout in PSU’s favor that it shoudl be.

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"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am going to say this now

Temple wins the toss and kicks off.. Amos returns it to the 35 and then Redd runs Off Tackle Right for 20, then a Play action for a TD.

Or we get stuffed at the 20 on the return, run 3 times for a 1st down, make it to the Temple 30 and kick for 3 (maybe).

Over under on the time on the clock > 8 mins.

Predicting Penn State's Offensive Scripts since 2005!

by Kunza on Sep 16, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Belton

I heard he may be moving/moved to RB, which actually makes a lot of sense depth chart wise.

by coachKofPA on Sep 16, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

It also may

be an indication that they’ve given up on recruiting a RB in this class.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just want to see them get up

on Temple early and maintain it. Last year I about had an infarction watching the Temple game. The defense is vastly improved so far this year but we need to start seeing the offense getting it in gear. Mostly though, enough of the craptastic first-down play calling. Give the ball to Redd/Beachum/Dukes and pound it. Gain five to eight yards on the fist down and then start getting fancy. The second and tens are a major reason for my high blood pressure every Saturday.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The problem isn't first down playcalling

it’s first down execution. Penn State has been running on first down. But going against Alabama’s defensive front seven tends to cause problems for opposing offenses.

I personally like a nice 6-7 yard pass play on first down.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do too

but not all the time. A first-down pass is great for change of pace to keep the defense honest. But c’mon…this is PSU playing Temple. PSU should be able to assert their will upon the the Temple defense.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should be

but Penn State hasn’t done a whole lot of what it should do in quite some time now.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truf

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the week....

We finally see Redd really break one (50 yards or longer TD)? I hope so.

by RitterPSU on Sep 16, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, how long has it been since one of those?

Royster’s 40+ yard TD run vs Michigan in ’08???

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Touchdown runs

not just long runs.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

There probably were a few. I’d have to go back and look. But I don’t recall any long touchdown runs.

But since you bring up Northwestern, I reminds me that Royster did have like a 60-yard TD run against NW in 2009.

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"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Punting

It seemed like Fera replaced Butterworth last week. Fera can punt further but if he outkicks his coverage on his boomers (like last week’s long return) and if the downfield men continue to get faked out by the fair catch act and don’t even look for the ball to down inside the ten (like last week – seriously), then Butterworth may be the better choice in terms of net punting average. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always liked Fera but punt coverage with Fera in there is a concern I have after watching last Saturday. Fera can’t do it alone without good/smart downfield play. Even his high booming kickoffs should pin the return man inside their twenty if the right coverage team is out there. Of course its somewhat correctible; I’m just surprised smart downfield play wasn’t coached/learned already. Note: this is my only critical post about last week but when I saw Butterworth listed as first team it made me wonder.

by OlderBudweiser on Sep 16, 2011 12:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Why isnt Fera kicking to a corner?

He was consistently dropping it around the 5 yard line….that to the corner and you dont have to worry about downing it.

by RitterPSU on Sep 16, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

'Xactly

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seemed to me like the punts were landing

before the return guys got there and then always took a high bounce into the end zone. Is there a way to put backspin on the football? It needs some English. LOL!

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Sep 16, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fera's

family was tailgating two spots down from me and I didn’t spot a single bottle of Cruzen Mango Rum the entire day. In all fairness, when Anthony joined them post game I don’t think he had a drink of any kind.

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by rahpsu92 on Sep 16, 2011 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me know their parking spot number

I’ve got a few bottles left over that I am happy to donate…

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by Smee on Sep 16, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

that would be epically uncomfortable/awesome

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Sep 16, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red 2731

Show an appreciation for Cigars and all things Jersey including Frank Sinatra.

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by rahpsu92 on Sep 16, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's easy

just six rows away. It’ll have to wait until at least Iowa – missing the directional game. I’ll be sure to have an ashton maduro and my Hoboken key.

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by Smee on Sep 16, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, aren't you just special?

"It's never a bad thing thing to vote for the suckiness of tOSU." -RWReese

by Paige2PSU on Sep 16, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we should do what Michigan did in 2006

Where they used Zoltan Mesko (space emperor of space) for long punts and Ross Ryan (their main punter in 2005, I think) for shorter punts. In our case, use Fera for the big boomers and Butterworth for the short ones where we want to down the ball inside the 20.

by Altoona Man on Sep 16, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not a bad idea actually

Fera out-kicking his coverage (in the literal sense, I don’t know how he does with the ladies) isn’t a new problem. It was happening last year too.

On a different note, I found Mesko’s high school yearbook picture online:

"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd

by PSU_Buch on Sep 16, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I always liked Dark Helmet

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate Stupar

I feel kinda bad for him. He’s played great all season in mind-bogglingly limited action. This comes after a season where he and Mauti looked like the only LBs on the entire team with a clue (with the notable exception of Fortt in his very limited playing time). It’s hard not to notice when Mauti and Stupar are on the field together. They’re an exceptional tandem. By and large, though, the coaches seem unaware of this. I can’t figure it out.

by BSM PSU 93 on Sep 16, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

I’m with you on that. Stupar has been one of the most consistent linebackers on the team for about three years now. I’m surprised he isn’t worked into the lineup more.

But that could just be a symptom of having too many linebackers to “work into the lineup” each week, you know? I mean, if he’s in for 4 plays, and the opposing offense only runs one play to his side of the field, it’s not his fault that he doesn’t log a tackle on every play.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true, Mike

Let me add that the prevailing belief here seems to be that we should simply trust Ron Vanderlinden (in terms of starters, playing time, etc.) because of his proven track record. I guess I agree…. he should have earned our trust by now. However, while the season’s definitely still young, I can’t say the linebackers have yet performed to my admittedly high expectations. An experienced guy like Nate would be a realllllly nice addtiion to the starting unit right now (in place of Hodges, perhaps). Heck, I’d flank Mauti with Stupar and Fortt and would expect noticeably better performance from the unit.

What’s weirdest of all is that Joe’s such a reward the senior/trust experience kind of guy (Colasanti? Bani?), yet Nate hasn’t been given that treatment. Geez, what did the poor guy do?

by BSM PSU 93 on Sep 16, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in favor of running a 3-4 like PSU did in the 80 and 90s

With this current team, Bradley could run DT-DT-DE with Mauti-Stupar-Carson-Hodges, with Fortt rotating in for Stupar when needed.

And for those of you who doubt the 3-4 thing, go back and watch tapes from about 82 thru 93. Penn State ran a 3-4 most of the time.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but that's when

Jerry Sandusky was there.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, at least Sandusky was willing to adapt

depending on personnel or opponent trends.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The most I think PSU adapts now

is by running that 3-3-5 nickel package, right?

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

With our LBs

I see a 1-9-1 configuration.

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

4-2-5

depends on what year we’re talking about, and what offense is on the field.

In 2005, I know PSU ran the 3-3-5 more than 4-2-5.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know in week one I saw some 4-4.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 17, 2011 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I mean by that

Is that I think Sandusky was a better D-coordinator than Scrap (IMHO and I know many will probably disagree). Of course now it looks like Jerry might be a member of NAMBLA or something, so….well, there’s that.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

we need to make sure not to bring that up when discussing football here.

Sandusky’s personal life is separate from what happened on the football field.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah

my bad. Mea Culpa

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say three Hail Marys

and perform an act of contrition, RW. I recommend you mop up all the tears being shed over on the CBS Sports Penn State board.

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What was that all about?

Because I suggested we leave the non-football Sandusky stuff out of this?

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, RW said "Mea culpa"

“Mea culpa, mea cupla, mea maxima culpa”.

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gotcha

my mix-up.

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries, Mike.

I like your focus on football and support it, even tho I think my parody post below may be on the edge of the line. Sorry!

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Lost my head for a moment. I always did like Jerry…That was when PSU defenses ate people’s lunches for a living.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Scrap is a good coach, as are the other guys.

But they just don’t harness the aggression the way Sandusky defenses did.

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Don't

like thinking about that at all-so I don’t. Call me an ostrich; I don’t care. I did meet Jerry before the 2000 Purdue game; very nice man.

"You can't handle the truth!"

by nits4ever on Sep 17, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't have the NT for it.

The “4” part isn’t the problem. The “3” part is.

by Chris Grovich on Sep 16, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

who was it back then, Deter?

A Garden State Nittany Lion...

"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think so

sounds right…been awhile

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez, maybe.

Given how Joe hates overweight linemen, on either side of the ball, you won’t see PSU playing the 330lb NT we’d likely need to run that defense.

by Chris Grovich on Sep 16, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

B'Ware is reading this

thinkin’, “OMG I soooo coulda been a contender for NT!! Playing time and all the steak, eggs, and hashbrowns I could eat!”

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...wait...wait,

Sign me up for that too! Playing time and breakfast? Hell Yeah.

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by bconway6 on Sep 16, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Deter

was the NT in the late 80’s; I remember him getting hurt (a neck injury) near the end of the 1st half of the 89 Bama game. I think he was from DuBois, PA which is west of HV along i-80.

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by nits4ever on Sep 17, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

3-4

would utilize our personnel better. PSU even used a 2-5-4 during much of the 1987 Fiesta Bowl against Miami. I wouldn;t go that far against a run dominant team like Templebut against a pass first opponent it can work. Just rotate the lineman (which is what Sandusky did in that game).

"You can't handle the truth!"

by nits4ever on Sep 16, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

geez

poor SOB was just getting his Cruzan Mango on…will this ever stop?

(rec’d nonetheless)

#keepFerajokes going

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by hbeach08 on Sep 16, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what he gets

for being caught with Mango rum. If it had been straight rum without the sissy fruity flavor, it wouldn’t be nearly as much fun to make fun of him!!

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by Paige2PSU on Sep 16, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he had it...

for a female friend?

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These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business."

"You don't want to analyze it...you want to admire it!" - Play by play guy on O.J. McDuffie TD catch against Ga. Tech.

by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 16, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I used to bartend

all the underage kids would order Sloe Gin Fizzes and I’d be like, “Seriously…I will never, ever make one of those. Now order a Screwdriver or a Rum and Coke and try to hide the pimples on your face.”

Rule of thumb on drink orders for men…if you can picture a girl on a bachelor party wearing a penis headress and yelling to the bartender, “Hey, give me another _!” and you can fit the name of the drink in that line you are not allowed to order it. The cowboys never rode in from the dusty trail and said, “Barkeep! Pour me a Merlot.”

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

+1
The cowboys never rode in from the dusty trail and said, "Barkeep! Pour me a Merlot."

"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd

by PSU_Buch on Sep 16, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

if you want a girly drink…and it’s probably the only girly drink really acceptable for guys…it’s the Singapore Sling. It’ll change your life, make you smarter AND better looking. Plus, Hunter S. Thompson used to drink ’em so that gives ’em cred.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fera alcohol jokes

like shootin’ Recs in a barrel.

"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd

by PSU_Buch on Sep 16, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or fishing with hand grenades.

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done that.

Works.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hail to a fellow PETA member!

People Eating Tasty Animals.

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Allen Robinson..

wasn’t he Bolden’s No.1 target when they were in high school? or was it Zanellato that was Bolden’s teammate? can’t remember

by mook1525 on Sep 16, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Okay, thinking waaayyy too deeply on this one

but is Penn State trying to get Robinson on the field as some weird way of giving Bolden some added comfort factor in the passing game?

I know, I know… I need to take a break from PSU for a few hours.

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"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

Remember last year Bolden and McGloin both had their favorite receivers. Brackett figured huge with Bolden (I seem to remember but may be wrong) and Moye figured in larger with McGloin. Perhaps now they are trying to get in someone that Bolden is more comfortable with.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why isn't Derek Day on the list? He ran a little against Indiana State.

I guess he’s pretty far down the depth chart and won’t play unless Temple’s being humiliated and tortured like a I-AA team.

by Altoona Man on Sep 16, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Day is a good back

but with three and four guys ahead of him (depending on when Green actually gets back on the field), he’s not a serious factor in the running back depth.

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"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb

by Mike Pettigano on Sep 16, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO DEVON SMITH

I’d like to see a lot less of Devon Smith, to small, no hands, can’t take a hit. Id like to see some more of Amos, Willis, and Kenny. Amos looks solid and can make plays wherever he is at. Willis deserves to be on the field after Sukay’s awful display of tackling, and covering skills, and I’d love to see Alex Kenny return some kicks, hes got all the speed of Smith in an actual football players body.

by redd4heisman on Sep 16, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

They need to use Smith...

like LSU used Tridan Holiday (sp?).

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These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business."

"You don't want to analyze it...you want to admire it!" - Play by play guy on O.J. McDuffie TD catch against Ga. Tech.

by Esteban d' Amur on Sep 16, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith...

is just not elusive enough. They are obsessed with his speed, but it seems that all he has is straight line speed, good in track, not as good in football.

by redd4heisman on Sep 16, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUlIv3Ca8AI

They got little hands
Little eyes
They walk around
Telling great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'll always rec

a Randy Newmann reference

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't ban me, bro!

This one is close to the political edge, I know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IQSbJUj7u8&feature=related

I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.

The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.

by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 16, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely right

Very fast, but very short with very bad hands and, from what it looks like, maybe even bad vision. Another week with Smith getting so many looks and playing such a prominent role in the offense will kill me.

by BSM PSU 93 on Sep 16, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

He shouldn’t even return kicks. He can’t follow blocks, cannot block for the other returner, and the first arm tackle brings him down. If someone lines up a good hit on him he is going to fumble.

by redd4heisman on Sep 16, 2011 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

while I agree with the majority of this comment

I don’t agree with your assessment of Sukay.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Sep 16, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Do Agree with It

I Iiked the job Willis did last year. Plus I can’t get over that vision of Adrain Clayborn running over Sukay, blocking that punt and…

"You can't handle the truth!"

by nits4ever on Sep 16, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was 2009

I feel his play greatly improved when he was in in 2010.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Sep 16, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No joke, he was turning into the athletic ballhawk we complain that we never

have in 2010 pre-injury. Willis filled in admirably, but Sukay is a playmaker and has earned his spot on the field. If Willis can step in next year and do that job he is doing, I will have no problem with that position.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 17, 2011 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wliis

will have to be one of the safeties in 2012 and play even better than he did last season.

"You can't handle the truth!"

by nits4ever on Sep 17, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

but I loved Willis’ aggressiveness. We haven’t had a safety who could really hit someone since James Boyd.

"You can't handle the truth!"

by nits4ever on Sep 17, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Other than...

…the two good games he has had last year he has under performed constantly. He doesn’t play the ball in the air he just head hunts. Yeah it looks cool to destroy a receiver, but that doesn’t matter 30 yards down field. Last week he would go in and try to hit Bama’s rb’s with his shoulder and not wrap up….thats not gonna work against Richardson. He also terribly missed timed a jump on a ball that should have been picked, it ened up a 30 yard gain

by redd4heisman on Sep 16, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

But heads

look so good on your mantle with a nice fire in the fireplace. Very cheery and Christmasy. “I got that one in Columbus, Ohio, and the one with the chipped tooth I picked up in South Bend.” Yep…headhunting is a fine sport.

"Illegitimus non Carborundum!" (Don't let the bastards wear you down)

by RWReese on Sep 16, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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