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dear ass-clowns

Let me preface this rant by saying this:  I'm not usually the one to gush about my experiences--good or bad.  But sometimes, enough is enough, and i have to vent it.  This is one of those classical "if the shoe fits" kinds of rants.  I trust you guys, so I'll put it out there.

PS, if you were involved in any of this, let me know.  If you started any of it, and are reading this, then I'm mad at the system.  Because you, friend, should be in the clink.

Star-divide

First of all--Shame on you, Lincoln Financial Field.  There is no excuse that a person should be able to attend a sporting event, show up for the national anthem, and be unable to see the American Flag.  Yes, there was one there.  No, it wasn't visible to the entire stadium.  I know I'm in the minority because my seats were in the rafters, but COME ON!  There is a beautiful, state-of-the-art stadium here, with plenty of space to put the flag up where it can be seen...or down on the field where it can be seen.  But to tuck it away below the upper deck--I know some of you won't agree with this for starters on my list, but a lot of men and women sacrifice everything for that symbol of freedom; that song and that flag stand for the reasons we can safely attend a sporting event en masse.  And you half-assed it, Linc.  In Philadelphia, where it all started, no less.  Anyway...

Secondly, Shame on you, belligerent Penn State Fan.  In the fourth quarter, right when Michael Mauti was channeling his inner Conlan-uszny and making that epic pick, I was screaming at you.  In case you missed it (I'm sure it wasn't shown on TV), that was the moment that one PSU Fan started arguing with another PSU Fan over what appeared to be an unwelcome comment after some serious eaves-dropping.  That led to a monster FIST FIGHT in the front row of the upper deck (Section 230, right above the 'OWLS' end zone that saw some 15 people escorted out of the stadium.  DISGRACEFUL.  If you can't handle your ass in public--regardless of who started that--then you should not be allowed in public.  I watched you, asshole, punch somebody's wife right in the side of the head because your ignorant ass can't keep your fists to yourself, let alone guide an accurate F***ing blow to the instigator.  And the other guy in the fight--why the hell were you choking somebody over the railing of the upper deck?  What the F**K were you thinking, bud? I hope you both got a million parking tickets while you dried out in the drunk tank.  And that I see you on Parking Wars.  May no act...

Finally, Shame on you, ignorant Temple Fans.  What, you see a fight going on in the stands, and your first reaction is to get in on that, and start cold-cocking blue-haired stander-bys?  Why did you think it was necessary to come down from Row 30 to start punching anyone you could reach?  I hope you rot in your cage, you oversized asshat.  

All in all, I was nervous about the game, couldn't tell who the better quarterback was, thought Silas looked pretty good, and wondered if we were going for the record in senseless penalties.  But, sadly, the only thing I'm sure to remember was what happened in the stands.

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Yea

Cuz ALL Philadelphians are like that.

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by Kyle_Martin on Sep 19, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Philadelphiana are not alone in this

However, they are prone to it.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Sep 19, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I saw Paul McCartney there a few years ago...

They booed him after about 6-7 songs because he hadn’t played Let It Be yet (honest – they started a chant for it during the boo). I mean, get real. Everyone knows that Let It Be comes in the encore, but seriously, Philly, you were a cool city in 1776. Maybe even until like 1850. But get over it. Now, you’re just a second/third tier city in America.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 19, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny you should mention that...

Many people who attend those huge concerts, just like the sporting events, probably don’t even live in the city.

So why don’t you give those suburban assholes some love in your rant too, okay?

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 20, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It isn't even worthy of intramurals.

Or the Big Twelve, for that matter…

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 21, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

God I hate the troll face

with the heat of a thousand suns. I wish the creator of that was involved in the Linc fights that Afields describes.

Please don't follow me on twitter.

by rahpsu92 on Sep 20, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wierd

I’m listening to Long Gone and it he’s dancing to it exactly.

An army is a team. It lives, sleeps, eats, and fights as a team. This individual heroic stuff is pure horses**t. --Patton

by JuniataMan on Sep 21, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn straight

"We're going to do all we can to get this team right, to go after that national championship" - Devon Still

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Sep 20, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh I hate this

We’re talking about this but why not the dude that TAZED people in NY? But nope, the media sure swept that under the rug. Good ol’ New York or any other city doesn’t do this…

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Sep 20, 2011 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Its much easier to make fun of philly than looking at all fan bases

I mean throwing snowballs at santa happened 50 years ago, “cheering” Michael Irvin’s injury (even though the fans were cheering for the shoving match after the play when Dawkins, I believe, knocked down Emmitt Smith after he taunted the fans). It is easier to pick on one fanbase for isolated incidents than realize that most places have a-holes for fans.

As an 8 year old boy meeting JoePa:
Me: Coach, I really am a big fan of Penn State
Joe: Glad to hear that
Me: I am also a big Notre Dame fan as well
Joe: Son, you can only be a fan of one or the other, not both. Make sure that you pick a winner.

by PSUfanDuff on Sep 20, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So sorry that you had to experience.....

something that is becoming a commonplace occurance at athletic events….the more the “fans” think that they are really part of the game and that without their participation and bad sportsmanship (under the cloak of “rooting” for the old home team) their team could never possibly win. Welcome to another reason to get drunk and become an Ass-Clown as you said. I have been to many athletic events and the results from that pre, during and post game boozing have ruined plenty of games for me, you and other fans who just want to see a good game. I am not anti-booze, but anti-boorish behaviour that often leads to hooliganism for lack of a better word. We will soon become the fans of inter-national soccer. What’s next? Burning down the stadium because you didn’t like the offsides call? Killing someone for the audacity to root for an opponent? I don’t know what can be done except for the fans who encounter such behaviour cooperate with the authorities and kick the Clowns out on their collective Asses.

"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.

by DerryPharmer on Sep 19, 2011 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It's really unfortunate

I’ve never been to an NFL game, but from stories I’ve heard from my uncle who has Steelers season tickets, it is not uncommon at all for brawls to occur. And fans of other NFL teams I’ve come across usually confirm that it’s not a Pittsburgh-specific thing.

I’d really really really like that trend to not infiltrate the college game. But I’m afraid as college football becomes even more popular and lucrative, we’ll see this type of garbage on a regular basis. During my 4 years on campus, I never saw a fight inside or outside of the stadium on gameday. Only once did my friends and I even come close to duking it out with opposing fans, and that doesn’t count because they were Buckeyes.

Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.

by 06Lion on Sep 19, 2011 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Case in point:

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/6962624/fan-uses-illegal-taser-dallas-cowboys-new-york-jets-game

Being a fan isn’t about watching the team win. It’s about watching the team no matter what happens.

by Horse N Buggy on Sep 19, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will say this

for each douchea that got in on the action, there were ten others that quit watching the game to get in the way. they created enough time and space for the event staff to take care of biz. i really thought we were about to see someone go over the railing, but people STEPPED UP.

"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who

by afields16 on Sep 19, 2011 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

and i'm not naive

i know this goes on, and its a part of sport. its just a shame that it has to be.

"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who

by afields16 on Sep 19, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

all i heard from all my friends that went

was the stupid amount of fights going on in the stands.

shocking how we can go from one end of the spectrum (alabama) to the lowest end (temple).

We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.

by mikeissurreal on Sep 19, 2011 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, i heard that too

and that there were several in the parking lot, too.

"They stalk their prey to within two or three great leaps and then launch a lightning-fast charge, striking their prey. Victims are most often killed by suffocation with a prolonged bite..."--Hinterland Who's Who

by afields16 on Sep 19, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you expect

from philly fans? even if they are college students, it’s like being there for a short time automatically makes them the fighting drunk type…i know it happens everywhere..however i have been to numerous nfl games…mainly redskins…and games against philly are the worst…almost to the point where im afraid to go as a redskins fan to a home game against the eagles because i’m afraid of being jumped…it’s pathetic in sports!

by va2pennstate on Sep 19, 2011 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think the logical assumption was that our fan that started the fight

was from Philly.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Sep 19, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

and what exactly do you base this "logical assumption" on?

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Sep 20, 2011 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Speaking of history,

did you know that the same year that the vet put a judge in the basement, three rivers stadium had more citations issued by police. The same for the meadowlands as well.

As an 8 year old boy meeting JoePa:
Me: Coach, I really am a big fan of Penn State
Joe: Glad to hear that
Me: I am also a big Notre Dame fan as well
Joe: Son, you can only be a fan of one or the other, not both. Make sure that you pick a winner.

by PSUfanDuff on Sep 20, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's awesome

How about other years? Or a comparison of enforcement thresholds in Philly vs. Pittsburgh vs. NYC? Raw statistics are super useful. Anyway, I had never seen a car set on fire until I went to the Vet, but I saw it twice in the span of three years … Philly = Morgantown’s big brother?

by kijana's acl on Sep 20, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

and how would you go about comparing enforcement thresholds?

are you going to interview cops from all three cities or just try to throw some big words around on the internet in a pathetic attempt to impress people?

Normally, I would bring up the fact that the Linc is a far cry from the vet seeing how they priced out most of the troublemakers when they moved. However, no one on this thread cares about facts.

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Sep 20, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just pointing out that raw numbers are essentially useless

What might get you cited in Pittsburgh, might get you arrested in State College. In Philly, it might get you a pat on the back and an “atta boy” from Philly’s finest.

by kijana's acl on Sep 20, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if we are living in the fantasy world of "might"

What MIGHT get you locked up in Philly, MIGHT get you asked to leave in Pittsburgh etc.

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Sep 20, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course

That wasn’t my point. My point was about the use of raw numbers.

by kijana's acl on Sep 20, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penn State uses [or at least used] the horse stables asholding cells

during big weekends. So using your same logic then it is a logical assumption to make that a PSU fan started the fight since a jail was in a weird location at one point.

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Just pointing out that while antics happen everywhere, only Philly felt the need to build a processing facility into their athletic venue in order to streamline their operations. I think most venues have a “holding cell” or some place where they can detain drunks or otherwise impaired/rowdy/obnoxious fans.

by kijana's acl on Sep 20, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody always says this...
Philly felt the need to build a processing facility into their athletic venue in order to streamline their operations

If you’re going to get kicked for a penny-ante assault or DandD you’d probably find it a thousand times more convenient to be processed at the stadium rather than sitting in a paddy-wagon until after the game, then hauled downtown to night court for processing. Assuming that you’re getting released RoR or with lowball bail, getting run through at the stadium probably saves you three or four hours. If not more.

by jesse. on Sep 20, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, so it was convenience

like shuttles to the parking lot or waiters for the club level patrons? I guess Philly was just being innovative and responding the needs of its customers. My bad.

by kijana's acl on Sep 20, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That or...

they needed to save money so they came up with an innovative way to save many OT $’s for cops

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Sep 20, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having worked in Philadelphia courts

I can tell you that there are no efforts made to save OT $’s for cops.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Sep 20, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying, it probably was more convieneint.

Moreover, it probably led to more arrests, because it would be easier for the cops to process something they otherwise would have let go.

by jesse. on Sep 20, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This sucks

When something like this happends, or a grown man will vomit on purpose on a little girl, or someone is beaten into a coma because of the jersey they wear, it has gone to far.

"Rabble rabble rabble; fire Joe; snarky meme; rude nickname; rabble rabble rabble

by letsgopsu on Sep 19, 2011 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

I live near Philly-although not a native. Unlike Kyle I cannot always defend the Philly fan. I should disclose that I am not an Eagles fan having attended the second game ever at the OLD Foxboro stadium which is about a half hour from where I grew up.

"You can't handle the truth!"

by nits4ever on Sep 20, 2011 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

this was not a comment on Philly fans

The guy who was beaten for his jersey was at a baseball game in California.

It happens everywhere, we just hear about Philly more.

I must say that I never saw a fight at a Skins game. I saw about 10 of them at one Giants game. Among their own fans, as well as one Giants who fan who walked up to a Skins fan, tapped him on the shoulder and punched him in the face when he turned around.

"Rabble rabble rabble; fire Joe; snarky meme; rude nickname; rabble rabble rabble

by letsgopsu on Sep 22, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I don't always defend the Philly fan

Only when baseless accusations are being tossed around.

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by Kyle_Martin on Sep 22, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I swear on my life

if that was my little girl, I’d be in prison right now. I know violence isn’t the answer but that dude would be dead.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Sep 20, 2011 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would visit you, jman

and bake you cakes every time. That guy was such a douchea.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Sep 20, 2011 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Ridiculous. People that go after children have a special place in the innermost circle of hell for them.

I had my own run in with Temple fans a few years ago. I was at a Braves/Phillies game in 2007 and Brian McCann hit a 2 run HR in the top of the 9th to give the Braves the lead. Now being a Braves fan, I of course started cheering. Not really screaming or yelling but you knew I was happy. It was “college night” and my friends and were lucky enough to be sitting in front of a bunch of Temple students. They started screaming at me, which led me to yelling back at them. There were at least 2 or 3 girls that were trying to fight me. The dudes in the crowd were yelling at me but the girls honestly were trying to climb over the seats to throw down with me. Now, I don’t believe in hitting women but I’m telling you, if they attacked me, I would have dropped them. Just sayin.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Sep 20, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just typing this comment makes me feel about 40 years older than I actually am, but...

I was shocked at the Temple fans at the game. I don’t necessarily have a problem with the F*CK JOEPA shirts or anything, I have my own “Buck the F*ckeyes” shirt. But the shirts, the yelling, the fighting, all of it added up to just a bit much. I suppose the final straw was when the 3 Temple fans ran up to my 11-year old cousin and her two friends and screamed “F*ck Penn State” at them before running away. For as much shit as we like to give Ohio State, they are pleasantly tame compared to the people I came across this weekend.

Rant over. Ya’ll can get back on my lawn now.

by PSUmob on Sep 20, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

in 2008

when I was at “the shoe” for Penn State’s win, the O$U fans, in general, were pretty civil. There was one group though, as we were walking through the parking lots to the stadium, that were clowns. There was one dude, he was on crutches, cursing and swearing at us. I’m not going to lie, I did think about how funny it would be to run over and kick them out from under him and watch him fall over.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Sep 20, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was at the shoe a few years back as well,

wearing a PSU jersey, and my friends and I had beer bottles thrown at us. Fandom stupidity happens everywhere.

As an 8 year old boy meeting JoePa:
Me: Coach, I really am a big fan of Penn State
Joe: Glad to hear that
Me: I am also a big Notre Dame fan as well
Joe: Son, you can only be a fan of one or the other, not both. Make sure that you pick a winner.

by PSUfanDuff on Sep 20, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody does...

As an 8 year old boy meeting JoePa:
Me: Coach, I really am a big fan of Penn State
Joe: Glad to hear that
Me: I am also a big Notre Dame fan as well
Joe: Son, you can only be a fan of one or the other, not both. Make sure that you pick a winner.

by PSUfanDuff on Sep 20, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, this is true.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Sep 20, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding your earlier post,

1) Sorry to hear about that whole Braves fan thing, haha
2) Temple kids are some of the worst. Having friends that went there I know from first hand experience.
3) College night at CPB is absolutely the worst night to go to a game. All the students from PA and NJ go there and act like it is one big frat party

As an 8 year old boy meeting JoePa:
Me: Coach, I really am a big fan of Penn State
Joe: Glad to hear that
Me: I am also a big Notre Dame fan as well
Joe: Son, you can only be a fan of one or the other, not both. Make sure that you pick a winner.

by PSUfanDuff on Sep 20, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

College Night at CBP

no longer exists. I t was started afew years back to get larger crowds in April and September-but the Phillies don’t need that promotion to get sellouts right now. Plus the bad publicity hurt.

"You can't handle the truth!"

by nits4ever on Sep 20, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

In conjunction with dollar dog nights

this promotion created both the atmosphere and the ammunition for a catastrophe

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Sep 20, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

My experience at OSU in 2008 was pretty awesome. I think one student may have made one comment to me, but I also had another student come up to me after the game, shake my hand, and congratulate me on the win.

Their alumni were fantastic and accomodating

by OmarLittle on Sep 20, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

A couple Temple fans came through where our tailgate was

and yelled “WE ARE! DOUCHEBAGS!”

I’ve never been in an actual fight and don’t pretend to be tough, but I stepped right up into a kid’s face (he had to be 19 at the oldest, so it was weird) and I said “hey man, that was pretty funny. I got a question for you…Name 5 Temple football players – 1. Bernard Pierce, go!”

The kid looked at the ground and tried to get around me and said, “whatever we’re still going to kick your overrated asses”

I said “welcome to your first Temple game, don’t get used to the fans.” The moral of the story is that most of the Temple kids causing problems were probably more attracted to the large crowd/outdoor drinking atmosphere than having any sort of stake in their team’s performance. When we play teams with big fan bases or rivals that we are familiar with, it’s not as contentious. Most people are excited about watching their teams. When we play a school like Temple, it’s a shit show because it’s less about football and more about throwing themselves into a mob mentality and getting drunk (not that you can’t both get drunk and be excited about your team, but you get the point).

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Sep 20, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he at least

come up with Pudding Pops?

Please don't follow me on twitter.

by rahpsu92 on Sep 20, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That story and line of reasoning can be repeated almost exactly

at games I’ve attended at the other side of the state. It’s the sign of a small-time program.

by PSU Mudder on Sep 20, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree with this assessment

Further proof of the fanbase knowing nothing about football: their cheers were all basketball style cheers.

Formerly known as kmart93

Black Shoe Diaries

by Kyle_Martin on Sep 20, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding the American Flag

That was not Lincoln Financial’s fault that you could not see it. I have Eagles season tickets and they usually either bring a big flag onto the stadium or have serivce members holding one on the field. I am guessing Temple dropped the ball there.

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Sep 20, 2011 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Could be the unruly fans.....

just tore down the Stars and Stripes and burned it….just making that up, but just speculating, huh?

"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.

by DerryPharmer on Sep 20, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

seems par for this thread

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Sep 20, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really..

Those of you lumping all Philadelphia fans together into a bunch of assholes are unbelievable. I’m a resident of the city, sat in 206 and had great conversations with everyone around me. I tailgated with Temple folks, walked by about a 1000 of them and only received/dished out some playful taunting.

Did some of you ever consider that maybe the venue serving alcohol had something to do with it? Did you consider that some people are just assholes?

by Artiefufkin10 on Sep 20, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn't lump all Philly fans together as a bunch of assholes, BUT

in my opinion, the biggest assholes of the Philly fanbase are worse than the biggest assholes of most other fanbases, and that’s why Philly fans get a bad rap in general. It’s like they just have a generally angrier attitude about their teams. If you grew up there, or have lived there for a long time, you probably don’t notice it as much as an outsider would. I lived in the area for about 5 years, and it was noticeable to me, especially when we first moved there.

Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.

by icavalera on Sep 20, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, you're right about the angrier attitude

I went to the Phillies game on Friday. They were one game from clinching the division in mid September, and clearly the best team in baseball.

They put in a recent call-up from AAA to pitch in a tie game and he ended up blowing it. Of course had the game really meant something they wouldn’t have had him in there. He is not even going to be on the playoff roster. That didn’t stop a few fans in my section (good seats I got from a friend, so probably season ticket holders) from booing and saying things like “enjoy the rest of your career in AAA, you bum!” and the like.

Basically that experience and my old roommate’s entire demeanor drove home the point that as long as there is SOME negative to dwell upon, it will be dwelled upon. It’s just the mentality of the sporting culture in Philly, and it takes some getting used to.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Sep 20, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea Philly does have a losers mentality that drives me nuts sometimes

But when you go 25 years without any of your sports teams winning a championship, it’s something you grow up getting used to and it’s a hard habit to break.

Formerly known as kmart93

Black Shoe Diaries

by Kyle_Martin on Sep 20, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me, you don't want to lose the edge entirely.

Go to a Sox or C’s game these days. 7 championships in all 4 major sports in 10 years has ruined those atmospheres. B’s and Pats not as bad.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 20, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Phillies success over the past 5 years

Has led to an increase of fans who don’t really know baseball. And that kinda sucks. That being said, I love that the Phillies sell out every game now.

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by Kyle_Martin on Sep 20, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in Philly for school

from 2003-2007. It was great because there were no crowds or anything. You could go to a day/night doubleheader and if you bought a ticket for the early game you could stay for the second. There wasn’t a big enough crowd to chase everybody out. Add in a day when they were doing dollar dogs and it was fabulous.

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Sep 21, 2011 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I went to at least 5 Phillies games a year from 1994 through 2009

And up until 2009 I could buy pretty good tickets the day of the game… unfortunately that’s no longer the case. But I’d much rather have a winning team than easy access to tickets.

(the only reason I haven’t been to 5+ games in 10 and 11 were due to living out in Minnesota… forgivable I hope)

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by Kyle_Martin on Sep 21, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh winning baseball

is much better than easy ticket access. But loving baseball in general and not liking the Phillies made the cheap tickets more beneficial to me ha

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Sep 22, 2011 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Temple Fans and Philadelphia Fans = 2 Different animals

All dogs are pets. That doesn’t mean all pets are dogs.
All Temple fans are Philadelphia fans. That doesn’t mean that all Philadelphia fans are Temple fans.

I’m from the Philly suburbs (West Chester) and a PSU grad. I’ve attended dozens (if not hundreds) of Philadelphia sporting events, with this being only my 3rd Temple game I’ve been to. In my experience of going to live games, my rankings of fan-bases are (from best to worst):
1) Phillies – Generally a family-friendly event, but there can be lots of drunk college kids during the Summer.
2) Flyers – Great fanbase that loves their team and understands the sport. Even though, like most other hockey franchises, draws a little too much of the “corporate crowd”.
3) 76’s – On par with the crowd you would expect at a funeral. Not producing any energy, but not causing any problems either (Might just be the result of the teams performance).
4) Eagles – TONS of alcohol consumption (not saying that’s a bad thing). However, they remain somewhat well-mannered during early kickoffs. You definitely need to proceed with caution during a night game if you’re from out of town.
5) Temple – The absolute worst of the bunch. Zero class or knowledge of the game. Somebody needs to tell them that, if they feel a “F&#K Penn State” chant is required, they should do it at some point other than right before losing the lead, in fact, that’s the worst possible time to say that chant.

In short, there are a ton of great Philly fans. However, for whatever reason, Temple is somehow a magnet for attracting all the bad eggs. Then again, if I had to live in North Philly for four years, I would probably be ignorant and beligerent too.

by PatMcPSU on Sep 20, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Haha I would never go to an Eagles game at the Linc

despite the fact that I’m a Phillies and Flyers fan, I’m also a Redskins fan. And I didn’t enjoy being a PSU fan at a Temple game on Saturday so I can’t imagine I’d enjoy going to an Eagles game as a Redskins fan.

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by Kyle_Martin on Sep 20, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Btw, when I speak of Philly fans,

I’m talking about the greater Philadelphia area, not just the city itself.

Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.

by icavalera on Sep 20, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even the animals.

Opinions are like f---holes. Everyone has at least two.

by WorldBFat on Sep 20, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

EVEN THE SKY

EVEN THE LENNI LENAPE!

Hire Eastern Michigan's coach - whoever that is!

by ReadingRambler on Sep 20, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

So even the bears, then, too?

Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.

by icavalera on Sep 20, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bears are just assholes in general

"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still

by jman07 on Sep 20, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bears are overrated.

Bears will run from you before you have time to get your camera out of your pocket.

Opinions are like f---holes. Everyone has at least two.

by WorldBFat on Sep 20, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that why people sometimes describe someone in a bad mood as

“a bear with a sore ass”?

Word on the street is you're a jerk, Mitchell.

by icavalera on Sep 20, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thin skinned too, evidently!

Opinions are like f---holes. Everyone has at least two.

by WorldBFat on Sep 20, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know Philly law firms pay lawyers to be assholes?

"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."

by MainLion on Sep 20, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

My original response.....

included the fact that this kind of behaviour occurs in all venues and that the thread just happened to be about Philly/Temple. Bad Judment it always is(Yoda, StarWars, Episode vii, the Fans Strike Back).

"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God." The Government is like the Mob, you can check out, but never leave.

by DerryPharmer on Sep 20, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop it with this ESPN-style generalization about cities and their ass-holeness. Every city has them, and we can agree they all suck. Philly gets the coverage because it’s an easy joke. It sucks everywhere, so stop lumping an entire city into this travesty above.

So much this.

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by Kyle_Martin on Sep 20, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

COMA

Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!

by SweepTheLeg on Sep 21, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

LA did the beating

come on, give credit where due

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Sep 22, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad...

Should have known that, I watched the press conf from LAPD

Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!

by SweepTheLeg on Sep 24, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That 14 y/o O's fan was asking for it though, amiright?

KIDDING

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by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 20, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing with Temple isn't that every fanbase doesn't have bad fans, every fanbase does

I’ve encountered enough Michigan fans to give any other fanbase the benefit of the doubt except Temple. Every fanbase has a few bad fans, except Michigan who pushes 50%.

Temple pushes 90% and I’m being lenient. I hope Azzadio runs that program into the ground, Temple fans are horrible at best.

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Sep 20, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The bottom line is we all have met such a tiny percent of other fanbases,

that our perception will always be tainted by our experiences. I have lots of friends from law school that went to Michigan undergrad, and all were good, knowledgeable fans who loved to talk about any other team’s history.

Although Addazio is terrible. He will have that program back under .500 in no time.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Sep 20, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the title gets a rec from me, I love the title!

"We're going to do all we can to get this team right, to go after that national championship" - Devon Still

by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Sep 20, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Philly fans will always be labeled as being assholes

as long as the chunk of the fan bases who are proud of the label go out of their way to fulfill it. Most philly fans are awesome, passionate fans and are also very knowledgeable. Most are not all like this.

by tlrpsu on Sep 20, 2011 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Every fanbase has ass-hats

We’re not exactly immune either.

Years ago I went with my family and grandparents to a PSU vs Iowa game at Beaver Stadium. My grandparents are Iowa alums, as is my mom. Naturally, they were decked out in black and yellow (my dad and I were in PSU gear, and my sister just didn’t care). Walking into the stadium, my 75 year old grandparents were heckled (“Fuck Iowa, go home!”), despite the fact that, ya know, they were 75 years old, and my sister and I were probably 11 and 12 respectively. Not exactly our classiest moment.

It’s nice to hear that Alabama fans had a great time this past game, but like I said, we’re not exactly immune to it ourselves. That said, it’s too bad you had a bad experience at the game.

"We heard all that talk all week about the SEC and their speed, but we knew personally that they weren't nearly as tough as us."

-Tony Hunt

by Cpiritual27 on Sep 21, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

This is exactly right, as well.

And everytime PSU fans act poorly, some moron in our fanbase says “they were probably from Philly.”

by Chris Grovich on Sep 22, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you have not seen "The Fan" with Patton Oswald, do so immediately

"Rabble rabble rabble; fire Joe; snarky meme; rude nickname; rabble rabble rabble

by letsgopsu on Sep 22, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

You mean "Big Fan"

“The Fan” is the classic cheese-fest with DeNiro! “Come on Bobby!”

Run.

by Bob Sacamano on Sep 22, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

correct, sorry

"Rabble rabble rabble; fire Joe; snarky meme; rude nickname; rabble rabble rabble

by letsgopsu on Sep 22, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Why did you think it was necessary to come down from Row 30 to start punching anyone you could reach? "

Ah nothing like a sunny afternoon in the fall in the City of Brotherly Love.

"It was an attrition football game and you know we like that."

by showtime on Sep 24, 2011 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Broad strokes and such

But how do you not roll your eyes when you read that one sportswriter punched another at a press conference and it’s Les Bowen of the Daily News nailing Jeff McLane of the Inquirer.

by gumbercules on Sep 30, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

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