Amateur Blog Mob Week 4 - Penn State vs. Eastern Michigan
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This week, the Amateur Blog Mob finishes the non-conference schedule as Penn State heads into battle against the Eastern Michigan Cupcakes!
Say hello once again to our panelists - Kevin McGuire from the Nittany Lions Den, William F. Yurasko from William World News, and all of the D-O-double-G's from JoePa's Doghouse.
Penn State was 6-17 on third down against Temple on Saturday. What can the team do to fix that? Is it a quarterback derby issue?
Rowlff Dogg: Have more plays in the playbook. If it's 3rd and short, it's going to be a fullback dive. If it's 3rd and 5+, it's going to be a curl route that might make a 1st down. Of course, the QB derby doesn't help the matter. But I'm going to try a different approach this week. Since the stubborn old man in the booth always does the opposite of what I want, I'll offer this- I love the haphazard QB rotation! Please pare down the playbook a little more! Please stay as long as you want!!!!
WFY: I am just going to say that the quarterback derby is the issue for everything on the offense until proven otherwise. Neither Rob Bolden nor Matt McGloin is ideal and playing both means neither gets in a rhythm or can stop looking over his shoulder. The playing calling seems equally indecisive as well. The solution may be picking one quarterback for a half or more and seeing how things go. That might fix it, it might not, but at least we'd have more reliable data to base an opinion on.
J Schnauzer: The bigger issue is they were third and long more often than they were third and short against Our Traditional In-State Rival. PSU also was as unsuccessful in short yardage situations as they were in long yardage. After breaking down every meaningful third down I don't pin the blame on the quarterbacks as much as on the offensive line. The line was wildly inconsistent last Saturday. The run blocking was poor, the fumble in the quarterback-center exchange (on 3rd down no less) could have sealed the loss. In order to advance down the field with a vanilla offensive game plan the blocking needs to be sharp. Maybe another week will sort this out.
McGuire: Take more timeouts? Kidding.
I do think that the offense is having trouble adjusting to different timings based on the different quarterbacks on the field. The same plays may be called for Bolden and McGloin but each player has different tendencies and timing on plays, and that has to be difficult for the entire receiving corp and the offensive line (which is a major crack in itself.)
(via Ed Collyer)
Last week, I asked whether Bolden's touchdown drive against Alabama in the fourth quarter was his defining moment. That was clearly premature, so I'll ask again. Bolden's big drive at the end of the fourth quarter, particularly the slant to Moye on 4th and 2 - defining moment?
The Underdogs: Not exactly 4th and 15 or MRob scoring the go ahead touchdown vs. Michigan in '05 here. A few scattered displays of excellence isn't Bolden's problem. Most players with exceptional talent can do that, even Tony Pepperoni. We need consistency. A long sustained drive without the drive killing hiccups here and there. An entire quarter versus a semi-competent defense without a sack, fumble, sackfumbleception, would be nice.
J Schnauzer: Along with Mauti's interception it certainly was the defining moment of the game. I loved the call. Going single-back on 4th and 2 with the game on the line instead of kicking a field goal? That has to increase the confidence of the offense. You can't consider it a defining moment until you have the benefit of hindsight, and sometimes a football season doesn't progress poetically.
WFY: See last week's answer, right? Nah, I don't think that will be defining moment. Converting two fourth downs late on the road is great, but I do not believe a defining moment against Temple is possible for a Nittany Lion quarterback. I certainly hope not.
I am thinking back to previous quarterbacks and what I would consider the defining moment. For Daryll Clark, I think of the fist pump after scoring at Wisconsin in 2008. Anthony Morelli's 2007 Outback Bowl was something I thought was going to be a defining moment, but in reality two pick-sixes at Ohio State come to mind. For Michael Robinson, I think it was taking out that poor Minnesota DB in 2005, though the Derek Williams touchdown against Northwestern could be it too. Zack Mills - his 69 yard scramble against Ohio State.
Did anything Bolden do remind you of any of those plays?
Anyone know anything about Eastern Michigan? Are they a candidate for Big Ten expansion?
McGuire: We got to know Eastern Michigan a little bit this week thanks to our new friends at The Eastern Echo. We learned that Dominique Sherrer, their top running back, may be limited at best after sitting out last week at Michigan. Eastern Michigan will likely hold him out until they get started in MAC play. So in his place The Eastern Echo tells us that Javonti Greene (now the team's leading rusher with 346 yards) will likely be the primary ball-carrier.
They have matched last season's win total of two wins, but those victories have come against a pair of FCS programs, Alabama State and Howard. Last week they lost to Michigan 31-3 in Michigan Stadium.
As for candidacy for Big Ten expansion? Nah. Eastern Michigan doesn't add any extra viewers in the state of Michigan, and expansion is all about the TV sets!
Collyer: I admit to knowing very little about this week's opponent, but Michigan's defense held them to 3 points. Read that again for full effect. Michigan's defense. You remember them, right? The team that gave up 65 points in one game last year? This is about to get ugly. If their starting tailback is out or limited, I expect the defense to hold them to around zero yards rushing.
J Schnauzer: Of all the directional Michigan schools, I consider them to be the least western of the bunch.
Rowlff Dogg: From a geography standpoint, Eastern Michigan is on the right side of a map, whereas Western Michigan is on the left. Central Michigan is somewhere in between them. Athletically, I know that Brian Bixler went to Eastern Michigan. And he stunk. Therefore, Eastern Michigan stinks. From a gridiron perspective, I've learned a simple lesson in life. If it wears green, plays football, and is named the Eagles, it's gonna be lousy. In short, we have nothing to fear.
How much can we realistically expect to learn about Penn State this weekend?
WFY: I think the only things we can learn are bad - the quarterbacks are truly terrible, the coaching staff doesn't have a clue/doesn't care and who gets hurt.
McGuire: Probably about as much as we have been able to see in the first two weeks. I'm not expecting to see much based on recent play, however there are some things I'll be looking for. For example, how about a passing touchdown (or two)? Penn State is one of the six FBS teams to not have a single touchdown pass this season three weeks in to the season. If they can't get one this weekend then something needs to be done.
We'll find out what kind of character this team has. After a tough loss to Alabama and a gritty, less-than-impressive victory at Temple there are plenty of critics right now. These players know that, even if they say they don't know it. They have to come out with a dominant performance before conference play opens next week. If they don't, then leadership on the field and sidelines will continue to be questioned.
The Underdogs: An offense has to emerge. So actually quite a bit. One isn't going to magically appear come Big Ten season unless Michigan trades places with every remaining team on our schedule.
Rowlff Dogg: We can see if this team has any focus whatsoever. This game should be over in the 3rd quarter, Bolden should solidify himself as the starter, the OLine should actually do its job, and the special teams should operate without a hiccup.
J Schnauzer: Quite a bit. I think this offense can turn the corner against EMU. PSU will go with a balanced offense and feature two QBs in a final audition for the starting position. This time next week they will have decided on a starter for the beginning of the conference play.
BONUS ROUND!
With news Missouri's interest in the SEC and conference expansion dominating the headlines, what is the Big Ten's best next move?
The Underdogs: Stand pat. The only schools worthy of consideration are Notre Dame and Texas. No other potentially available schools bring academic & athletic fit along with households and TV sets. Thinking otherwise is naive and foolish. Texas has proven to be too much of a problem child to even want to deal with and ND is only in play if the 4x16 super conferences starts happening. They will sit by hoping to maintain their independence until the music stops and even then, they'll have a seat at one of the tables because they're Notre Dame. However, that is far too organized for a system with so many moving parts and entirely too self-interested, self-absorbed, selfish parties (see: Texas) to pull off. Not that self-interest is particularly bad, it's the way of the world, but when players in the game forget the inherent interdependence with others is when it is problematic. UT is out of friends and that might point toward their independence as well with a yearly game vs Notre Dame. But the difficulty of scheduling non-revenue sports will put UT and ND in a bind. I could see them trying to create some kind of national conference with the unwanted spare parts. Call it the Island of Misfit Toys where UT and ND get to be king and queen (you figure out which is which). And I guarantee there won't be revenue sharing as part of the deal. UT and ND see that as win-win. Big Ten sits at 12.
WFY: I think the Big Ten ought to just sit on the sidelines for now and wait for the pieces to fall where they may. There is no silver bullet for Big Ten expansion - as much as everybody has welcomed Nebraska it wasn't as good for the conference as Penn State was, so see where everything winds up. I don't think Mizzou really wants to be in the SEC and might be bluffing to get the Big Ten to invite them. That would be a more natural fit for both parties I believe.
I think Notre Dame will realize it has to be in a conference and go to the ACC where I bet they can get more leverage with TV. I think in a nod to basketball (for a change) the ACC will grab Connecticut. That leaves Rutgers, not an ideal candidate, for the Big Ten to bring in to make an even numbered conference. That would lock down the New York City/New Jersey market for the conference. Also, they better have "The Big Conference" trademarked already in case the Big XII and whatever merge.
McGuire: Let's quickly hit the refresh button and see what's going on as I write this (it is likely to change by the time I hit the post button, or by the time the round up is completed so be warned).
The Big East is losing Pittsburgh and Syracuse to the ACC.
The ACC and SEC have rejected West Virginia.
The Pac-12 will stay at 12 teams and not invite Texas or Oklahoma (and Oklahoma State and Texas Tech).
Missouri has an invite to join the SEC. Or maybe not.
I have been on record of saying no matter what happens elsewhere, the Big Ten is in a good position standing pat with their current membership as is. They won't be accused of picking on another conference, as I so suggested they should to the Big East and ACC in the past, and they are still going to be in a profitable situation moving forward. It is a decision I now applaud after initially saying they needed to react.
I initially called for the Big Ten to get involved and begin the process of expanding. I'm still open to expansion but I no longer feel they need to initiate the conversation wiht anyone. If Rutgers makes a call (which they say they have), I would listen but woudl be reluctant to move unless someone else with a bigger profile shows interest.
If Texas, Oklahoma or Notre Dame make the call then I'm really listening.
As much of a perfect fit Notre Dame seems to be for the Big Ten, the odds of the Irish taking up an offer to possibly be the conference's sixth bowl team is likely enough to scare them away (because we all know they're every bowl game's first option, right?). If I'm the Big Ten, I accept Notre Dame in the blink of an eye, and maybe throw Rutgers in as well.
Texas has plenty of reasons to be scared off if you are the Big Ten with the Longhorn Network. Not even the Pac 12 was interested because of it and I felt the LHN could be overcome with making it a part of the Pac 12 Network.
Simply put, the Big Ten is fine the way they are, but if Notre Dame makes the first move, let's talk.
Predictions?
McGuire: I thought Penn State would pull away from Temple last week. It didn't happen. I do expect it to happen this week, and I really can't see Penn State going four weeks without a touchdown pass.
Penn State 34, Eastern Michigan 10
The Underdogs: 27-3.
Rowlff Dogg: 38-6. Penn State will notch its first passing touchdown of the year. Beer will be imbibed and dead animals consumed.
J Schnauzer: 35-7. Go big or go home.
WFY: Rob Bolden starts. Shane MacGregor gets some time in a QB. 2 quarterbacks throw touchdown passes, but I am not saying which 2. Matt McGloin looks pretty good. At least once placekick misses. Derek Moye catches more passes from McGloin than Bolden. Guido D'Elia's reign of terror will continue. Some students will observe Jersey day by dressing like a bunch of outer-borough New Yorkers whose television show unfairly maligns an adjacent state. Penn State wins 44-6.
And from our BSD regulars . . .
Mike Pettigano: Penn State 23, Eastern Michigan 9. As long as the quarterbacks continue to rotate, I'm not calling for Penn State to win any games big, or even at all. EMU is improving, but still a terrible football team. So the home team pushes out a win in painful fashion once again, in front of a raucous home crowd of 89,000. Guido D'Elia gleefully announces a number disgustingly inflated, while claiming the Blue Band plays just as often as it did in the 90s. "Piped-in music? [Sweet Caroline blares over the PA system] What piped-in music? [Drum major gets the band up to play, but is called off at the last second] [Video boards run another stupidly loud and wussy PSU commercial]"
Peter Gray: 28-7, PSU. It'll be the hardest a team has to work for 28 points in recorded history.
Jeff Junstrom: Penn State 29, EMU 0, because according to an ornery old man I met at Career Fair, "Penn State never covers the spread." And he's right (PSU 0-5 ATS recently).
Kyle Martin: Penn State won't struggle as much on offense this week as the have the past two weeks, simply because EMU isn't as good as either Bama or Temple. The defense keeps rolling. PSU - 33 EMU - 6
Collyer: I'm done with my optimism until proven otherwise. In the aftermath of the Temple game, I commented that the defense was spectacular and that the offense, filled with potential players who had nice statistical games, is being held back by an indecisive coaching staff that doesn't put the team in the best position to succeed. The defense will stop Eastern Michigan cold. The offense will stop itself. The return game will be fine, but the actual kicking game will once again be terrible. Penn State 24-0.
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" ... wussy PSU commercial"
THANK YOU! Who is picking the music for these damn things? Are we a university or friggin’ a.m. kindergarten? What’s with the childish Teletubbies crap? I was immediately reminded of this.
1-UPs with Honor.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
Disturbing.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
Don't want to add fuel to the QB fire,
but I am beginning to revise my position re that position. I have tried to be laissez faire about it, trusting that either RoBo or M2 would separate from the other OR the coaches will make a decision. However, the sentence from this article that jumped out at me was, "The same plays may be called for Bolden and McGloin but each player has different tendencies and timing on plays, and that has to be difficult for the entire receiving corp and the offensive line . . . "
Football is a game of tempo/momentum, and obviously disruptions prevent a rhythm from developing. If the O-line (and WRs) are constantly having to adjust to RoBo’s cadence vs. McGloin’s, they will be a parsec slow in reacting to the snap. Result? The play gets blown up, with the QB getting smacked or throwing too soon.
Here’s a (not very bold) prediction: The offensive line play will greatly improve within two weeks of a starting QB being named (and not swapped out). We have the building blocks for a decent line; let’s give them a chance to succeed. Until a single starter is named, we will continue to see O-line inconsistencies and an anemic scoring offense.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
yup
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb
by Mike Pettigano on Sep 22, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hate to sound like I'm not "with it", but what does M2 mean?
I know you are referring to McGloin, but what is it in reference to? Thanks.
by mundyscorner99 on Sep 22, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I use M2 for three reasons:
(a) Matt McGloin; (b) I hate that some use “McDerp” or other derogatory nicknames; © M2 (known as the “Ma Deuce”) is the official nomenclature of the .50 caliber machine gun, and I am hoping he can supply that kind of firepower.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Last point should be ( C ), not the copyright symbol.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Got it, thanks
Very good explanation, I like it.
by mundyscorner99 on Sep 22, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the bullet for the Ma Deuce

Note that sucker is almost 5.5 inches long!!
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats
what she said
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
Follow @134Lounge
by skarocksoi on Sep 22, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This made me lol
Of all the directional Michigan schools, I consider them to be the least western of the bunch.
by psuwxman on Sep 22, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Keen insight indeed
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
If this is still TRULY a QB competition, as the coaches say it is, then McGloin should get an opportunity to make one start
Bolden has started all three games, and if they are still even in the eyes of JoePa, then I think that it is only fair that McGloin gets a chance to start a game as well. People often mention that Bolden’s rhythm or whatever is impacted by the QB rotation, but perhaps McGloin is also affected by it too. (although rarely if ever mentioned). I think if the situation was reversed and McGloin had started all three games but did not distinguish himself as the starter by that point, #TeamPotential would be in an outrage. What would it hurt, especially against a team like EMU, for McGloin to start out the game? Perhaps people will be pleasantly surprised. If the people who are in the “Just Pick One Already” camp truly feel that way, then they should be OK with it unless they are actually in the “Just Pick One Already…as long as its Bolden” camp.
I understand if people feel that the QB situation has already been settled in their opinion, and that’s fine. But that’s not the view of the coaching staff and that is really all that matters. They feel both guys have their pro’s and con’s and are waiting for someone to step up and take the job. I can’t say that a strong performance vs EMU would really determine that for anyone, but hopefully we see some positive signs. And perhaps a TD pass.
I just don't care who starts anymore
Pick one. Anyone. Even a kid from the 17th row. Just pick one and stick with it, that’s all I ask at this point.
"I don’t know what he’s done differently, whether he’s eating differently or Sue is making him happier, but he’s definitely a different coach out there" Devon Still
Pure conjecture
I think the coaches have 98% settled on Bolden as the starter — hence their putting him on the field first each game — but then get exasperated over the poor offensive output, and throw McGloin in to see if he can overcome the inertia.
That said, sure, start McGloin against EMU. If he gets the job done, argument settled; if not, maybe Bolden having to sit at the beginning of the game will piss him off enough that, once in the game, he lights it up.
I don’t know, guys; this is as weird as I’ve seen Penn State football, and that goes back over 40 years.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If McGloin starts on Saturday
it will break the Internet.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
I know he had the better game against Temple
but I’m standing by my prospective opinion re: the two. McGloin cannot beat a good defense. Bolden probably won’t, but I’ll take probably won’t over cannot.
What if Joe starts McGregor to send a message?
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I'm with JMan
Hire Bob Barker to yell out, “Tommy Tentpeg, come on down! You’re the next contestant to play QB for Penn State!” If he doesn’t work out at QB, try him at kicker.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
McGregor is from my hometown
There was a nice writeup in the paper after the first game when he scored. If he starts McGregor that would DEFINITELY shut down the internet!
by mundyscorner99 on Sep 22, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, he's from MY hometown?
Did you go to CC or BC?
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I went to CC - class of 1993
So obviously we weren’t in school at the same time, but it was nice to see someone from Ebensburg score a TD for PSU. I just moved back to Ebensburg (originally from Mundys Corner) a few months back after living in Monroeville. What about you?
by mundyscorner99 on Sep 22, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
CC class of 2002
Shane’s older sister was a freshman when I was a senior I believe, but I never knew him. Heard only good things though.
Currently living in Ebensburg a few days a week, working sometimes in Uniontown (blech) with plans to move back to Philly once I get my bar results and gainful employment. Might miss the PotatoFest (haha)…
You were a little older than Randy McKavish, but I’m sure you remember him. I was discussing with some friends whether he’s still the best QB from CC ever (could have been D1 if he wasn’t 5’11", had offers to play in CFL after dominating at Slippery Rock) or if McGregor might be.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Very cool
I think McKavish was a freshman when I was a senior. I never saw him play football, but he did some great things at SRU. I actually saw him play hoops at UPJ once though.
I still work in Oakland and drive there twice a week. I’m hoping to check out PotatoFest too. I actually don’t have a choice since my place is right in town and will be swarmed with people as soon as I walk out of my apartment.
The thing I have trouble with about moving back home is the lack of things to do, so I still do my fun things in Pittsburgh when I’m there. Other than the Castle Pub or YP, that’s pretty much it unless you want to drive 30 miles. But it is nice to be back closer to family and friends.
by mundyscorner99 on Sep 22, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
My brother actually lives downtown as well. I’m sure we know 500 of the same people, but I’m leery of confidentiality stuff on the internets.
Anyway, you’re right. I’m 27 and still need to sow my wild oats, so to speak, plus I had to move in with my parents for the time being, which is depressing for someone who holds a JD and has just lived in Center City Philly for 3 years. I have driven to NYC, State College and Philly each of the last 3 weekends and I’m probably going back to Philly tomorrow. Thank goodness for iPods in the car….
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I know what you mean
XM radio is what I use to pass the time on my travels.
I do feel that there are a lot of positives about it here, but most of my friends have left the area and didn’t come back. I’m keeping my options open, and that is why I still have my job in Pittsburgh, just in case things don’t work out here.
Yeah I would imagine we know a lot of the same people too. I actually like living in town as I can walk to pretty much anything.
by mundyscorner99 on Sep 22, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what is confusing to me
It seems like they lean toward Bolden, but not enough to make him the full time starter? If he is the starter, then fine, McGloin shouldn’t see the field. But they can’t seem to pull the trigger and say one way or another. October is next week. We need to have this figured out.
by mundyscorner99 on Sep 22, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The QB mess reminds of the bigamist
being sentenced by the judge, who told the two-timer: “You cannot have your Kate and Edith, too.”
(For you youngsters: Take-off on the old saying about “not being able to have your cake and eat it, too”.)
Sorry, terrible pun!
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If McGloin can play well against EMU, argument settled?
Have you lost your mind?
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb
by Mike Pettigano on Sep 22, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
As opposed to continuing the two-ring circus?
I understand that choosing McGloin might lead to losses; how is that trajectory different from the current situation?
Please note: I am not blaming RoBo or McGloin or anything specific — I am not an insider with confidential information at my fingertips. I am a long-time fan who has (this year) seen two lackluster wins and a loss caused in part by lackluster offense.
THE STATUS QUO IS NOT WORKING — TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT!
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
But how does beating up on EMU constitute doing something different?
I think it’s common knowledge that McGloin can light up a terrible defense. The problem is, those become less common as the B1G schedule begins.
by kijana's acl on Sep 22, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 PSU_Lions_84
@Mike Pettigano is a QB 1 homer…he loves him some Boldin.
Personally I think both are inept, not sure if that is mostly coaching though but prob is big part of it.
I want the “Drake” to return and be the QB…can’t be worse
Hire Mike Pettine Jr!!!!!!!!
Bill Belton
even if he is “pudgy” as described by Big Red. He’ll be like the Michelin Man — would-be tacklers will just bounce off him.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Working out at RB now
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I'm nominating him for starting QB
on the theory that if the back-up QB is always better than the starter, then the back-up to the back-up is even better, thus the back-up to the back-up to the back-up is the most superior choice!!
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
We might see him this week
Beachum is likely out with an ankle and Green isn’t playing. So after Redd it’s Dukes and Belton, or a ton of FB action.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
How does that make even the slightest difference?
Will he suddenly play better because he’s first off the bus? Does #TeamPick6 (sorry, but potential, poise and physical ability were taken by the other guy) think that the wind is stronger later in games, thus hindering McGloin’s bullet passes to the other team?
by kijana's acl on Sep 22, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
It shouldn’t make a difference. So that’s why Bolden shouldn’t have a problem with coming in the game in the 2nd quarter or 2nd half. As stated, this is still a QB competition, like it or not, and I feel it is only fair that McGloin get an opportunity to start since they are both competing. If he throws a bunch of picks as you suggest then there is someone on the sideline who can step in and save the day.
by mundyscorner99 on Sep 22, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, I just don't see why it should matter
First series or eighth, McGloin is going to look like a competent quarterback against EMU. So will Bolden. The debate will continue between those who think that scoring (whether it’s points for PSU or for the other team) is all that matters, and those of us who think otherwise.
by kijana's acl on Sep 22, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather go with Morelli than little red
but that’s only because I think both are equally poor decision makers and equally likely to give the other team points, but Morelli was less of a douche (at least in public). So, yeah, I probably wouldn’t go with McDerp under any circumstances. Shocking, I know.
by kijana's acl on Sep 22, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The definition of insanity
is doing the same thing over and over, while hoping for different results.
Unfortunately, this is not a lab, where we can rigidly control the conditions, variables, whatever. One could argue that playing Temple SHOULD have provided an opportunity for either QB to excel — EMU might expose again our lack of a good QB, irrespective of who starts, runs 32 vs. 31 plays, etc.
Not trying to be argumentative, but when the frontal attack kills half your people, you may want to test the flanks.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Poise?
Bolden does not have Poise. I’m not sure he Potential either. He however is #TeamScatterShot. Never know where his throws are going.
We Are!!!!!!
The QB Armistice
is officially broken.
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
Poise! Moxie! PickSix! Irish Flag Mouthpiece!

"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
by PSU_Buch on Sep 22, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I plead guilty to firing the shot
that broke the peace, but, c’mon, folks! I am generally the model of the good corporate citizen, but I am also goal-oriented. The goals of this Penn State team are not being met (at least from what I can see — feel free to correct me if I am being unfair or blind), so changes need to be made.
If McGloin starting for the next three games is needed to provide an equitable view of his abilities, then let’s do it. EMU = YSU, Iowa = Alabama, Indiana = Temple. Not a perfect construct, but close enough to reveal if there is something magical about stepping off the bus first.
Somehow, the QB/offense impasse has to be broken. Be radical in seeking solutions.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It's all relative to the guy who throws balls to 300 lbs linemen
Hell, Garo Yupremian has more poise than little red.
by kijana's acl on Sep 22, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for that memory!
Sure is a classic — Garo looked like a minnow surrounded by sharks, all carrying jars of tartar sauce!!!
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone else hoping for a heavy aerial bombardment this game?
I’m voting for 50 pass attempts in this game. We MUST break out of the passing doldrums before conference play (or at least before the Iowa game). Otherwise, we will see 8-3 defensive schemes that will shut us down completely.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
I'd love to see us only focus on the parts of our game that are causing problems
We should write a gameplan that goes against our strengths. We should still be able to win it in a walk, and maybe it’ll give a few players the confidence boost they need when we have to veer away from our comfort zone against the Iowa, Illinois, last 3 games contingent.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Agreed!!
Steal the playbook from one of the WAC teams. Throw 50 passes, attack the corners with the rushing game — do everything 100% opposite from the first three games of this year and all of last. Find SOMETHING that sparks some energy and desire to win in this squad.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I see us scoring the points we need in the first half, we either lead 24-0, 28-0, or 31-0 at halftime, then using the second half to work on our worst weaknesses.
And because of that we give EMU a gift wrapped field goal from a turnover.
But despite not having an imrpressive final score despite annihalating the Eagles on the field, we’ll really benefit from the second half the way it’s used here. Against Indiana State it was all about letting the younger guys play. But against Eastern Michigan, it should be about working out the bugs and only putting in Shane McGreggor and Derek Day late in the 4th quarter.
This will be the game that we get our problems largely fixed and we get an offense good enough to lead to an 8-4 or even 9-3 season. Or maybe I need to put down the blue and white kool-aid.
No need to put down the kool-aid, Toona Man.
Matter of fact, share, because I like what you are selling.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The only way EMU scores
is if they have their starters in against PSU’s 3rd string or PSU has a turnover inside the PSU 30. Even then, it’s not a certainty.
Defensively, EMU isn’t actually all that bad, at least not for the MAC. They held Michigan to 3.5 points below their season average and scoreless in the first quarter. They held Alabama State to 29 below their season average and Howard to 17.5 below their season average.
So I’m going to say that EMU is significantly better than Indiana State and waaay less good than Alabama defensively. If the QB retardation by the coaches continues, 35-0 good guys. If it doesn’t, 45-0 good guys.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
We need to score at least 50 this game
It’s the last chance for this offense to make a statement. If we can’t put up a big number against EMU, we have no chance to survive the B1G season.
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Its the name on the front of the jersey that matters most, not the one on the back. -Joe Paterno
And now we don't have Beachum
got rolled up on in practice, ankle injury.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
While I'm tempted to agree
because EMU has held each of their opponents to their lowest point total of the season, stats:
Michigan vs. EMU: 9 meaningful possessions. 23 First downs. 31 points: 3.4 points per possession, 2.6 first downs per possession.
Michigan vs. Notre Dame: 13 meaningful possessions, 16 First downs, 35 points: 2.7 points per possession, 1.2 first downs per possession.
EMU has a considerably less good defense than Notre Dame. ND may not have a great defense, but teams’ scoring on ND has generally had much more to do with the offense putting them in bad spots than with truly bad defense. They held MSU to 13 points. However, YSU held MSU to 8 first half first downs, so how impressive is that, really?
EMU’s true defensive strength is in getting first downs and eating up clock. They were able to do this decently well against Michigan. They should not be able to do this at all against PSU, so I’m not giving them too much credit defensively.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.
I’m curious how Eastern maintains D 1 status. Always thought game attendance was a determining factor. Live fairly close to Eastern and my wife has been a student there. Have gone to some games and have never seen more than 1 or 2 thousand fans, mostly cheering for the other team. The previous AD lost his job maily because he was lying to the NCAA about game attendance. Anyway, Eastern football is a basket case, there are probably D 2 programs here in Michigan that could beat them and PSU really needs to crush them.
EMU is only 207 miles from Chicago.
EMU hires the same guys who “get out the vote” in Chicago to get cheeks in seats for the Eagle football games. Rynearson Stadium (capacity = 25,000) routinely has over 397,000 fans attending each home game.
I'd like to have two Armies -- one for display, with lovely guns, tanks, little Soldiers, staffs, distinguished and doddering Generals and dear little regimental officers, who would be deeply concerned over their General's bowel movements or their Colonel's piles; an Army that would be shown for a modest fee on every fairground in the country.
The other would be the REAL ONE, composed entirely of young enthusiasts in camouflage uniforms, who would not be put on display but from whom impossible efforts would be demanded and to whom all sorts of tricks would be taught. That's the Army in which I should like to fight.
by PSU_Lions_84 on Sep 22, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Penn State 31, Eastern Michigan 3
We go out to a huge halftime lead, possibly score all of our points. Then we use the second half to work on our weaknesses but as a result get a turnover that lets EMU get a token score that ultimately means nothing. It’ll be a lot like Akron 2009. I think in all honesty, Indiana State could beat Eastern Michigan, the EMUs may have a slightly better defense, but Indiana State’s offense is much better and still only got 66 first half yards against us.
The IndSU defense vs. the EMU offense would decide the game
If EMU got roughly 2.5 first downs per possession or better, it would be close, and EMU would have a good chance to win. If they didn’t, Indiana State might blow them out.
"I play for Penn State, we don't celebrate after TDs." - Penn State's Derek Moye, on being asked to act like he's celebrating a TD during a BTN shoot.

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