Talking Bama, Flips, and Piped-In Music with Drum Major Ian Kenney
We're back. Told you we would be. Big games are always a real treat for the Blue Band--along with the other 108,000 folks in Beaver Stadium that day--as experiencing the roar of the crowd from the middle of the football field is second to none. Blue Band Drum Major Ian Kenney carved out a few minutes this week to answer some more questions for the BSD community. Hope you enjoy.
One of the loudest moments I can remember at Penn State was in 2002. You can imagine which game... Sept. 14, vs Nebraska. It was my second-ever game, so I wasn't entirely sure what to expect. But with the record-setting (record still stands today) crowd of 110,753 literally shaking the concrete under the tunnel, it was a sight to behold once we came marching out of the tunnel. Our drum major, Trevor Gast, landed the first flip just before we stepped off for the downfield portion of pregame, and I nearly went into shock at the sound of the crowd.
I hope to experience that same feeling this Saturday around 3:20 p.m.
BSD: You landed both of your pre-game flips last week and Penn State won big. Tell us a little history behind the Drum Majors' flips. What's it like knowing that landing the flips has become such a major part of Penn State football, especially going into a big game like this weekend?
Ian: The Drum Major's flip actually happened as far back as 1942, when Edwin L. Anderson first performed it during pregame... but since he had to withdraw from the university, it didn't happen again until 1972, when Jeff Robertson was chosen to be Drum Major. His mace/baton tossing skills were not strong, and when the crowd was initially displeased with his performance, he needed something to account for it - which was the first back-flip. The Drum Major after Robertson, Eric Felack, couldn't flip, and the crowd was once again displeased. As a result, the flip became required for all Penn State Drum Majors.
Soon after, the superstition became affixed once the outcome of the game often reflected the Drum Major's performance. I have been looking forward to the Alabama game since it was announced, and every time I think about it I feel the adrenaline rushing and my heart pounding. I know that the Penn State faithful are behind me and want me to perform well, and that keeps me from being nervous about it - and that's what I'll be thinking about going into this weekend. I'll go out there knowing that I'm capable of doing it and have prepared myself physically and mentally, and let the rest take care of itself.
BSD: The first gameday is always a challenge for the band, but having such a major national spotlight on Penn State in the second week of the season doesn't come along every year. Will the band approach this week any differently, particularly preparing those members who haven't experienced the kind of atmosphere that is likely to engulf Beaver Stadium this Saturday?
Ian: We're approaching this week like any other. Every week we prepare as if it was PSU/Alabama. We strive to put on a world-class performance each and every week. I have been a part of the Blue Band since the 2008 season, and I fully expect Saturday's atmosphere to be unlike any other I have experienced on the field on Beaver Stadium. I expect this week's rehearsals to be very intense. We had a three-hour rehearsal in the rain today just preparing for the 9/11 tribute that is going to take place during halftime. In addition to having one of the most electric pregames in the band's history, the halftime show is also going to carry a similar energy.
BSD: Some of our readers were making requests after last week's Q&A, so let's throw one out there. What are your thoughts on the piped-in music Penn State plays over the PA system in Beaver Stadium? The band is also plugged into the guys in the press box to coordinate when the Blue Band plays and when canned music or commercials are played. Have there ever been times when the band could play, but is over-ridden by the authorities in the press box?
Ian: I'm not a fan of piped-in music (excluding Zombie Nation, Shout). This past week I wasn't particularly happy with the amount of opportunities the band had to play, but I do believe that is because it was the first game and smoother coordination needs to occur between the press box and the band. We have a lot of new music in our folders this year - I just hope we get more opportunities to play. It really isn't our call though. We play our "chasers" on defense, most of the time we'll get to play "Fight On, State" after a touchdown (for instance, the first touchdown last week [kick return], Zombie Nation was piped-in when I called up FOS ready to play), and we'll have our "drive songs" for offense, along with the drumline's repertoire. We'll see how it plays out. We were also limiting how much the band played due to the extreme heat. A significant number of students and fans asked me why the band wasn't playing very often after the game - so we're not the only ones noticing. This weekend's weather is supposed to be much more tolerable, so we'll see how much our "fresh" band will get to play. I will say that our purpose is to be there to support the team, and we'll take every opportunity we get to do so.
BSD: What are some new songs the Blue Band is playing this year in the stands? I think I heard Ke$ha this past Saturday. What are some others fans may have missed?
Ian: There's at least a dozen new tunes, some of which the band hasn't had the opportunity to read through yet. Last week we played "We R Who We R" by Ke$ha and "Alive and Amplified" by The Mooney Suzuki. During Football Eve we also played "I Don't Wanna Stop" by Ozzy Osbourne, "We're Not Gonna Take It" by Twisted Sister, and "All American Nightmare" by Hinder. Expect some more music from artists such as Cee Lo Green, Pink, Earth, Wind, & Fire, Paul Simon, Herbie Hancock, James Brown, and another Ke$ha tune.
BSD: Finally, any clues as to this week's halftime show? I imagine it will be very special due to the 10-year anniversary of the 2001 terrorist attacks. Beside the halftime show, are there any special events/memorials planned by Penn State for either pre-game or halftime? (like a flyover, big American Flag, etc.)
Ian: This week's show is going to be a very powerful tribute for the 10th anniversary of 9/11. After seeing the band walk through it today, play through the music, and then begin to coordinate the two, I definitely don't want to spoil any of the formations or the music that is going to be played... the show will touch on the solemn and reflective nature of the tragedies that took place, honor those who passed away in a very symbolic and chilling manner, and also have strong moments of pride and resolve for our country. The Penn State Glee Club will be also be performing along with the Blue Band for one of the songs during halftime. It is a remarkably well-written show by Greg Drane, the Assistant Director of the Blue Band (also director of Pride of the Lions Basketball Band and the Fall Athletic Band for Women's Volleyball).
Mega-thanks to Ian for another great Q&A. Best of luck to the band this weekend. And everyone be sure to scream your heads off when Ian nails the flips. We want Bama fans to kick off their Beaver Stadium experience with a bang.
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While I abhor Ke$ha and everything about her
If they chose to play “Blow”, that would be a pretty good stadium tune.
yeah, I should have mentioned that
my mention of Ke$ha is not an endorsement of her songs. But I do agree that Blow would be a decent stadium tune.
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by Mike Pettigano on Sep 8, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I miss the Blue Band being the centerpiece of big games.
Last time I really heard the Blue Band in a big game at home used to pump up the crowd after a touchdown was Ohio State 2005 with that first touchdown. After that, every big play was accompanied by Zombie Nation (except maybe the third quarter field goal). While I like Zombie Nation just fine, I can’t help but miss the old Blue Band having that role.
The Kids in the Blue Band.....
practice hard and deserve any financial they receive and most importantly they need to play more LIVE music in the stadium….this is Guido’s fault(I’m not joking)….Last season was Beaver Stadium’s 50th Anniversary. Did we do anything special aside from an insulated cup? This year is the 125th celebration of PSU FB. Aside from Chaz running back the opening KO and set the stage for a celebratory-type year, we have been advised from the end of last year to not “boo” Bama when they come up here. What do they want us to do play Bama music!!?? Guido has to go or change—-heck I’m old, but not a stodgywad like him.
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Penn State Blue Band members receive NO financial compensation/aid for their work
It’s a regular class… a one-credit class, to boot.
So yeah, Blue Band kids get pretty much nothing in return, except for the great memories and experiences.
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by Mike Pettigano on Sep 8, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I did NOT know this.....
This award winning Band is one of the greatest in the College ranks….they have to be compensated for the wonderful work that they do and the thrills that they give to all of the fans that hear and appreciate them. FB-wise, when they come out of the tunnel and Ian, and others before him, play “Hail to the Lion”, followed by the 2 flips makes me get goose bumps…I’m getting them now just writing about it…….Guido!!!! more BLUE BAND Live music!!!!!!!
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I can think of a Cee Lo Green tune I'd like to hear after a bad ref call.
But having 15,000 students yelling the key phrase wouldn’t make for family-friendly TV.
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Not family friendly, but I'd find it pretty hilarious
We should also just play it continuously every time we play tO$U or scUM, it’s just fitting.
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Zackly Bro!! More and more!!
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Uh, you forgot to ask Ian about.....
the strong competition for the Drum Major’s position. I have it on good authority that he used to put stones in Matt Sabo’s shoes so that he could win the job….in a confused state, one time, he put lemon juice on Mike Sabo’s woodwind in a sabotage move not realizing that the boys were/are twins. Nobody hands you anything in the the BigBlue.
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Thoughts on whether the Blue Band will be on the field this week?
Often in rainy weather prior to the game, they play from the seats. It definately bums me out when we don’t get to see the pregame on the field. Will be doubly sad during the 9/11 tribute.
by dontcallmescooter on Sep 8, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions
The rain has stopped in State College
So with a couple days to dry out, the field will probably be fine. The sun’s even come out there, I’ve heard.
Let's Go State!
Sunshine and blue skies over much of the area
at least for now
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-Silas Redd
The field will defintely be fine.
That field undoubtedly has a subair system which drains the water as fast as it comes down.
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This is a cool feature
I never would have thought to include something like this for the run up to game week, but I’ve enjoyed both editions so far. Please keep them coming.
I do still love Zombie Nation; however, I think it is deployed too frequently. It doesn’t feel like a real momentum changer anymore b/c we’ll use it on plays like sacking the Syracuse quarterback. There’s nothing wrong with teasing the crowd with a little anticipation. If we don’t get ZN on a certain play, or even for an entire game if the circumstances don’t call for it, that will only result in the release of more pent-up energy when there’s a game-changing play that truly does warrant its use.
As I think I’ve said here before, I wish they could cut down on the piped in music in between plays, during media timeouts, etc. These are chances for the band to play, for students to contribute something unique to the college atmosphere. I am ok with some recorded audio, as I do think it can help raise the energy level, but “less is more.”
"I don't think you can progress in this game unless you know about the past."
-Silas Redd
by PSU_Buch on Sep 8, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This made me laugh really hard
It doesn’t feel like a real momentum changer anymore b/c we’ll use it on plays like sacking the Syracuse quarterback
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by letsgopsu on Sep 8, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the problem is
They keep trying too hard to recreate the atmosphere of the 2005 Ohio State game. You can’t manufacture that. That came from years of frustration at being so bad that we prayed for mediocrity but instead got the magical 2005 season which was so great that even a bad game at Michigan couldn’t ruin it. I don’t want four years of suffering to have that again.
Plus, people forget, Zombie Nation was only used in that game after that big interception, after the resulting touchdown, and after the fumble late in the game. It really was a way for the crowd to get its energy out of its system. The Blue Band played after the first touchdown and the field goal and after most big plays that night. If we really want to recreate that game, we need more Blue Band and only use Zombie Nation for BIG plays, not as you said sacking the Syracuse quarterback (which made me laugh out loud in real life).
I completely agree with what you said. Zombie Nation has gotten so overused that it’s being made fun of (and that may not be entirely unwarranted either).
I was in Silks for that 2002 Nebraska game
We couldn’t hear the band at all during Pregame. Absolutely the most insanest night. I remember marching down from the practice field to BJC and in part of the cadance where the band yelled “We Are” this woman yelled back “Sh” I remember looking around going “Holy Crap – I really go to school at Penn State”
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Big Ten...or just lose the sweater vest.
I don't hear Penn State Victory
anywhere near as much anymore. I always loved yelling ’We are Penn State" in the pause, even if I was just sitting at home!
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by Paige2PSU on Sep 8, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I know!
Victory is one of the least-played songs, but actually my favorite.
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by Mike Pettigano on Sep 8, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine, too!
I think ZN replaced almost all of the instances where you would hear Victory. At least I have it on my iPod and can play it whenever I want!
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Honestly
The piped in music makes me feel embarrassed to be a Penn State fan. Maybe its because I grew up coming to games through the 80’s and early 90’s, but to me it seems to sap all of the tradition out of it and turn it into another generic NFL experience. Don’t get me wrong I about went nuts when they played ZN during the OSU game in 2005, but they used it the right amount, not overdoing it like they do today. Now every game seems like 1992 Miami which they pumped in a bunch of noise drowning out the crowd and Blue Band and I remember such a backlash from that back then that I don’t remember piped in music again until ZN in 05.
by eternalpessimist on Sep 9, 2011 8:00 AM EDT reply actions
There was plenty of piped-in music before 05
but not to the extent you hear the past 5 seasons or so. It started to get back in 06.
Now, it’s even worse, because they play really loud commercials over the PA/VideoBoards. And they play it right up until the snap, which really bugs me.
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"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make. - Michael Weinreb"
by Mike Pettigano on Sep 9, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
The commercials were extremely annoying
Every freaking timeout or pause, oooh, commercial time. It was like there was no time for the blue band. So we are getting new scoreboards/video screens so we can watch freakin TV commercials at the stadium, that I will Boooooooooooo We should coordinate a “boo the commercials” during game timeouts.
My grammer skills need improved.
That is booing that I can agree with!
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Yes I know it existed before 2005, but the point I was trying to make is that I can’t remember it. Remembering ZN in 2005 is a good memory, everything since then, not so much.
by eternalpessimist on Sep 9, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions





























