Depth Charting the 2012 Offense: Offensive Line
| More 2012 Depth Charts |
|---|
| Quarterback |
| Running Back/Fullback |
| Receivers |
| Defensive Line |
| Linebacker |
| Secondary |
Alas, we've reached the end of our way-too-early look at the 2012 roster, and we hope you've enjoyed taking a look at who will actually be playing football in under nine months. Tomorrow we'll put it all together, but the long and short of it is that we ended 2011 with 67 non-graduating scholarship players. How the remaining spots will be filled rests by Coach O'Brien and staff, and their hopefully relentless push to the February 1st Signing Day, is anyone's guess.
Today we take a look at the offensive line, a position so hard to predict that the two deep you see below will most likely end up being completely wrong by September 1. There are highly-touted recruits yet to make an impact after a few years in the program (Eric Shrive), highly-touted recruits on the edge of perceived greatness (Donovan Smith), and a whole host of others in between.
With Mac McWhorter now in the fold, the offensive line has just one coach to answer to, a marked change from the 2011 regime that saw Dick Anderson coaching the guards and centers, while Bill Kenney coached the tackles and tight ends. McWhorter saw varied levels of success at Texas, where he won a national championship in 2005 and was named the Assistant Coach of the Year in 2008 by the American Football Coaches Association, but was essentially run out of town after a couple of down years by Longhorn standards.
First things first, the cupboard:
| OL | Class |
|---|---|
| Matt Stankiewitch | RSSR |
| Mike Farrell | RSSR |
| John Urschel | RSJR |
| Eric Shrive | RSJR |
| Ty Howle | RSJR |
| Adam Gress | RSJR |
| Frank Figueroa | RSJR |
| Nate Cadogan | RSJR |
| Mark Arcidiacono | RSJR |
| Khamrone Kolb | RSSO |
| Miles Dieffenbach | RSSO |
| Donovan Smith | RSFR |
| Ryan Nowicki | RSFR |
| Angelo Mangiro | RSFR |
| Anthony Alosi | RSFR |
| Anthony Stanko | FR |
It's not coincidence that every single lineman has used their redshirt. Offensive linemen are terribly difficult to project, and almost always require at least a year learning the playbook, working towards proper weights, etc.
Further, this is the deepest unit on the roster, obviously, but could grow even larger as some players jump back and forth from the defensive line. Today, though, we'll look at the projected two-deep. Beyond that, it's anyone's guess, except Anthony Stanko's use of a redshirt.
| LT | LG | C | RG | RT |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Smith | Arcidiacono | Stankiewitch | Urschel | Farrell |
| Gress | Kolb | Dieffenbach | Shrive | Nowicki |
Of the starters, the middle and right side of the line are the most stable. Stank started the first ten games of the season as well as the bowl game, and Urschel and Farrell saw a good deal of playing time in the spots previously occupied by DeOn'tae Pannell and Chima Okoli, respectively.
The left side of the line, on the other hand, is essentially up for grabs. Quinn Barham and Johnnie Troutman each started all 13 games at left tackle and left guard, respectively. Behind them, Adam Gress saw action in six games, Mark Arcidiacono in two, and Khamrone Kolb saw action in just one game. Donovan Smith was a true freshman last year, as was Angelo Mangiro, who might work his way up into this two-deep before long.
Smith was a natural left tackle out of high school, and impressed anyone and everyone who saw him in practice a year ago. He is tall, has the athletic ability to keep speed rushers at bay, and has the rare opportunity of becoming a four-year starter. Whoever is under center next year is going to need time to throw, and protecting that quarterback's blind side is of utmost importance.
Hopefully all of these guys come to camp ready to play, and McWhorter has some difficult decisions on his hands. There are at least six bodies behind these ten that are pushing for playing time, so the bodies are there. The question remains whether the talent and coaching can come around.
58 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I have to commend you guys on all the work on these.
I’m starting the think the cupboard really is not that bare for 2012, and if BOB can get a few of the right pieces to fall into place we might make a darkhorse run for the BIG title.
I know I drink A LOT of blue kool-aid though, so I’ll try to temper my enthusiasm.
.....that which we are, WE ARE;
One equal temper of heroic hearts
It's easy to temper the enthusiasm.
Just look at the qb situation. It adds a cup of vinegar and a tablespoon of salt to the even the best of blue kool-aid.
also as someone pointed out in another thread
a quick look at the other QBs in the B1G next year shows that PSU may actually be in very good shape QBwise by comparison
so i guess im saying im more of a Hugh Honey
![]()
by swiggy04 on Jan 12, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Anyone references Always Sunny
Gets an easy Rec from me. Love that show!!
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
So we have the tallest midgets!?
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
I think..
PSU actually has a decent shot at winning its division.
Sigh.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 12, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Braxton Miller will be good.
As for the rest, no one is really coming to mind.
.....that which we are, WE ARE;
One equal temper of heroic hearts
Denard?
"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13
by kijana's acl on Jan 12, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
We miss them this year, barring a meetng in the CCG.
___
Black Shoe Diaries
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 12, 2012 3:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Right
I just thought we were talking about B1G QBs who were clearly better then our bucket of chum.
"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13
by kijana's acl on Jan 12, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Granted,
That’s assuming Paul Jones is as good as the other two.
If he gets his credits in order (last I heard he missed the bowl by .2 of a credit?) for the fall, we might have ourselves another, more convoluted, competition.
Now that I think about that… sigh
by misdreavus79 on Jan 12, 2012 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna predict Jones gets his grades together
and wins the QB job outright very early.
The only knock on this guy is his grades. Everytime I’ve seen him speak he always shows class and respect and never makes excuses.
For a highly touted recruit the guy has never bitched about anything and there has never been a mention of the word transfer from his mouth.
Not to mention the guy has a cannon and all reports I have heard of him while on the scout team are that he torches our D.
And we all know only good quarterbacks torch our D. I’ve never heard that McGloin or Bolden were torching our D on the occasions the 1s were going against the 1s.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
There is enough talent on board to get 8 wins
With some luck and good coaching we’ll be in the hunt for leaders co-champs again
I'd be okay with 8-4
As long as there are things going on that make us hopeful for the BOB era (recruiting going well, offense has an identity, etc). I’d honestly be fine with 6-6 for that matter if that were the case.
As long as we stay near 80%...
for the graduation rate too.
I’m really hoping that part of the equation remains in place.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
by LB31Monster on Jan 12, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I'd say it would for the current players,
because they are all from the previous regime. I’d start measuring with this class, which technically is going to be BOBSled’s.
by misdreavus79 on Jan 12, 2012 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I exepect a rebuild year and a big learning year
That being said. With Redd back I think the offense will be great as long as the O-line has something. The thing that scares me is a whole new defense. yes LJSR is back but the schema is going to be different. I will be happy for a 8-4 or a 6-6. I just want to see a team fight. It doesn’t matter to me if they lose as long as they play strong and the coaches put them in the best position to win.
6-6 with our Front 7 and Silas Redd?
No.
If we just played linebackers we could win 6 games.
With our schedule I think as long as Jones does what I expect him to do and the secondary is average I think we could win 9 games this year. Possibly more.
Yes, not only do I drink the kool aid, I have a glass in my hand right now.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
"with our schedule"
are we looking at the same schedule here? Because the only gimme on there IMO is Indiana.
Fire Dan Snyder
Well I'm not afraid of a few opponents.
Ohio is a gimmie.
I think we will beat Virginia, Temple and Navy.
And Northwestern, Illinios and Iowa to start the season.
I’m not saying some of those are gimmies… but I’m saying they are very winnable.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
I think almost every game on our schedule is winnable
but I don’t think that means the schedule is easy. I think it’s tougher than a lot, if not most, of the schedules in the big ten.
Fire Dan Snyder
It's certainly dangerously thin at spots (see Mike's secondary post yesterday)...
But, and we’ve heard this before, if those on the roster played to perceived potential, we could be really solid.
___
Black Shoe Diaries
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 12, 2012 8:03 AM EST up reply actions
Cadogan
Jeff, I noticed that Nate failed to crack your projected two-deep for next season. He was frequently listed as the No. 2 LT behind Barham on depth charts published during the season, but I didn’t see him get a lot of actual playing time. Do you any additional information on his status? I always liked his brother and have been pulling for him to do well here.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Hasn't he
been a backup TE in the past? Didn’t he catch the TD pass in the 400 game against NW a few years ago?
Although maybe they will pick one position, LT or TE for him now since you know, there is only ONE offensive line coach…hey maybe that was the problem, our tight ends and tackles were being taught the same stuff and were confused as to which position was which!
by va2pennstate on Jan 12, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
I think he was only a TE due to our lack of depth at the position
I’d probably put him or Gress ahead of Smith, though it doesnt make a difference at this point because we have all new staff evaluating these guys.
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
#OccupyESPN
Follow @134Lounge
Dont sell Smith short. I really think this guy has 4 year starter written all over him.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
Like I said, it's a crapshoot.
The LT spot last year was Barham’s alone, with some spells here and there. Smith appears to be the heir apparent, and under the old regime, I might have put someone like Cadogan in the two-deep. But with a whole new staff, which means no job is safe, I think it’s Donovan’s to lose. Cadogan has swapped back and forth from TE, but I think he’s back with the OL full time. Just don’t know where.
___
Black Shoe Diaries
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 12, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Another spot I could see a battle brewing is center.
___
Black Shoe Diaries
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 12, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting
I thought Stank was pretty solid last season, though if Dieff lives up to his billing and is close with him performance-wise, I guess I could see a new staff deciding to invest in the future.
Thanks for the response re: Cadogan. I figured it was something like that. My preference would actually be to see Smith be the guy at LT if he’s ready, but it would be nice to see Nate see some time either as a back-up or at another spot on the line.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Is it possible for Miles to see some time at guard
if Stank has center locked up? If the kid is too good to keep off the field…?
Ha. Too much time at work, I suppose.
Staring at plat maps all day could make a blind man go insane.
___
Black Shoe Diaries
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 12, 2012 8:02 AM EST up reply actions
Little late
and I might be in the wrong thread here but didn’t know if anyone would see it in a fanshot, but can someone who attended the town meeting last night maybe get a synopsis of it? Kind of like we used to do with Joe’s pressers? That would greatly assist those of us who are following from outside the state!
Also, as we try to change this structure…let us not forget the words of Bluto…was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! and it ain’t over now…..
"Let him go, he's on a roll."
I don’t think anyone on staff was at the meeting last night, but if anyone wants to make a FanPost (people read those) and share thoughts, please do so.
___
Black Shoe Diaries
SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 12, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
One thing I notice right away with the "cupboard".
Only two seniors on the roster. It’s a little refreshing to see that our offensive line can’t be completely filled with under-achieving seniors only to be re-made the next year in similar fashion. With a new coach in charge of the entire line (sorry, but the previous split was asinine), I’m hopeful that some of these younger guys can reach their potential.
_______________________
I fully support and endorse ^this
Follow @TheMightyErik
I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member
by TheMightyErik on Jan 13, 2012 4:19 AM EST up reply actions
I'm really excited about McWhorter
Even in the two “down seasons” at UT, the offensive lines still managed to put up middle of the road production, as you’ll see from the stats below. The thing I wonder is how much having one coach with one terminology will help in the development of offensive linemen. Someone else pointed this out yesterday, and I think it bears repeating, the young kids were constantly being moved from Guard to Tackle (see Shrive) and thus were always switching coaches. That had to have hampered their development and I’m excited to see what will happen when that’s no longer an issue.
PSU Offensive Line Stats
2011—1973 rush yards, 4.2 yards per carry, 14 sacks
UT Offensive Line Stats
2010—1806 rush yards, 4.2 yards per carry, 18 sacks (T-2nd B12)
2009—1905 rush yards, 4.1 yards per carry, 32 sacks
2008—2123 rush yards, 4.4 yards per carry, 26 sacks
2007—2398 rush yards, 4.9 yards per carry (3rd B12), 25 sacks
2006—2044 rush yards, 4.4 yards per carry, 19 sacks (T-2nd B12)
The B1G has..
better defenses, the Big 12 has far better QBs.
Sigh.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 12, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Notice the number of sacks though
Even though our O-Line has not been the strength of this team, the last 2 years the number of sacks against us were really low. Even when they played for the MNC Texas still had over 20 sacks.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Yes, but
they dropped back to pass 350% more and opposing defenses knew it.
Leaders Co-Champions
by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 12, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is the most excited I have been in years about the 2012 season
really impressed with BOB and the mix of old/new staff…I really expect a HUGE season next year.
Talking 10+ wns
May no act.................
He's certainly got all the ingredients
Continuity on defense, especially the front 7 that basically makes or breaks any given season. Nowhere to go but up on offense. Joe left behind a good, maybe great group of young players. Oh, and Ohio State is banned from B1G championship game and Wisco is going to have to find another rent-a-QB.
I’m most excited by how our recruiting will evolve in the next year or two. We should start to see those super-star skill position players start paying more attention to Penn State if we begin to field an offense with a pulse. You couldn’t blame them before, with a stone-age offense and a HC who never made recruiting visits… Now? I think the future is bright.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
We got a Special Teams coach!?!
Thats dang near blasphemy! Seriously though, great news.http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2012/01/12/football_coach_AP_.aspx
by DocPennState on Jan 12, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
"and Wisco is going to have to find another rent-a-QB."
Does Peyton Manning have another year of eligibility left?
Coach O'Brien
Man, is it hard to get used to hearing/reading that.
Learned to love PSU even with Casey and Thompson
...and he can't wait to get started
Joseph V. Paterno has left an impression on my soul that wil never, EVER go away.
guhhhhhh?
Ska’s favorite formation is definitely power I.
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
#OccupyESPN
Follow @134Lounge

by 






























