Penn State NYC Alumni Town Hall Open Thread
by Chris Grovich on Jan 13, 2012 6:47 PM EST
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PrintHere's your link, festivities to begin at 7:00 p.m.: http://www.alumnitownhall.psu.edu/
If you're Twitter-inclined, follow our own @AdamCollyer and our friend @Devon2012, who are both at the event and plan to be tweeting away until their phones say no mas.
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I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you
You said you wanted how many Board members’ heads on a pike?
by Jitterbug on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Question for Erickson
Did you give JoePaterno permission or approval to interview with the WaPo?
Question for Erickson
Pleather or Jeggings on Saturday night?
Question for the BOT
For 2 days, the Erickson has been touring and alumni have been told to re-direct their questions to the BOT. WHY are there no BOT members here in NY?
by BooyahPSU on Jan 13, 2012 7:06 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
He is cast as Gerry Ford.
For the first time, he appears to me sympathetic.
Side note: they couldn’t find a bigger room? We do Orpheus general membership meetings in bigger rooms in July.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Apparently there are lots of empty seats, so maybe it's a good thing.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 13, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, 25 or 2500 . . .
You always want somebody standing, you want it to look packed. Otherwise it doesn’t seem that important.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Did he say so many things about athletics in his opening remarks in Pittsburgh and Philly?
I tuned in 10 minutes late last night.
Just added the embed code to this page.
So if you don’t want two separate windows, just refresh this page.
They should've had one of these in DC instead of NYC.
Would’ve been a much larger turnout.
by PennStateBasketball on Jan 13, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure the Board will have more to say
After they read Paterno’s interview.
Mr. Erickson, I have a question...
PPAAAAAWWWWWWWLLLLLLLLLLLL
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 13, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That was direct (harsh?).
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
It did direct focus on a certain reality.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
She's putting the BoT on the spot.
Or at least trying.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
to a point
but they misjudged is the bigger reason. Sounds like a solid answer
I'm not buying
They had almost a full year to do an internal investigation to see who was called to testify, what was said, put 2+2 together with the 1998 report & 2010 grand jury proceedings. They should have been prepared.
Spanier assured the Board in the spring that there was nothing to worry about.
They apparently believed him. Maybe Spanier believed it, too.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 13, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions
I've come to think this is genuine, even if a wrong assessment by Spanier
I thought he was incompetent with that initial statement, but come to believe that he weighed the evidence that he had and saw no major connection to PSU. He believed there was no PSU cover up so we shouldn’t be worried.
by psualum9931 on Jan 13, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Curly and Schultz had university counsel
is it known who McQueary had?
Question for Erickson: If I'm drinking in my apartment while watching this, am I not drinking alone?
You are not.
However, I must go. The affairs of state take precedence over the affairs of state.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Question
“Who wins in fight? Mothra or Cael Sanderson?”
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 13, 2012 7:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
at first I read this as "Mothma" as in Mon Mothma
and my response was, well, it depends on whether she has Ackbar as her backup.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Jan 13, 2012 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I have a bad feeling about this.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 13, 2012 8:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Try to keep your distance.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Great question
Change the composition of BOT
by BooyahPSU on Jan 13, 2012 7:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
"you can not convince me..."
and he is the one whining about “I didn’t know I was in the Soviet Union”
In Soviet Russia
Poorly fitting Penn State hat wears YOU!
I suck 'em down like Coca-Cola.
by ATLion on Jan 13, 2012 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"You cannot convince me"
Is one of the worst forms of bogus argument.
“‘Common sense’ is just the accumulation of prejudiced one obtains before the age of 18.” – Albert Einstein
“A great many people believe they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.” – William James
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 13, 2012 8:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
"I didn't know I was in the Soviet Union!"
My father-in-law tried that once. Called the cops Saddam Hussein in his thick Romanian accent. Kind of worked!
But he is speaking for the players
they would abandon their responsibility to attend classes and practice?
Bitching about the BOB hire?
Now THAT is embarrassing. Look, I was pretty vocal in my displeasure of the results of that search. But,
NOT THE FORUM ASSHOLES.
Leaders Co-Champions
was he bitching or just asking about criteria for selection?
Anecdote: Erickson did tell the college of science that he thanked E. Gorden Gee for hiring Urban Meyer. They didn’t want a high profile head coach.
He said (paraphrasing):
athletics are the face of the school, we needed a penn stater, why didn’t you hire tom bradley?
Leaders Co-Champions
by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 13, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
this lady is excellent
And abuse is not just sexual nor physical, but emotional, economical, cultural, etc. We really can be the leading university in providing education and support.
Great question
but why does the moderator keep trying to cut people off. Tone deaf.
Yes, we can't have too many Tims.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
by icavalera on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Comm major just nailed that question
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Someone should rewatch this and count all the "uhs" and "ums."
He sounds like Lumberg.
keep winning ugly
Hell of alot of courage on his part
Gotta love PSU
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
can't believe how well he handled himself
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
in messaging with someone who was a part of a Erickson's college town halls
he was very much like this. Well composed, projecting the old farm boy persona and genuine. He has spent decades as a provost with the sole intent of advancing PSU’s academic stature.
He's far more composed...
Than I am sitting here watching him from my desk
I suck 'em down like Coca-Cola.
Agreed
Here I am at my desk at work trying to look away from my co-workers because of the water works and he’s there talking about her.
I am Sandy's bitch.
Penn State Forever
I was in front row right in front of Erickson
When “Bill” the father finished speaking, there was a standing ovation. Bill was at the back of the room, so I got to see basically the entire audience applauding this man’s courage. I have 6 daughters, two of whom went to Penn State, and I can’t tell you how my heart went out to this man and his terrible loss.
"Black Shoes. Basic Blues. No Names."
by Rummeypsu1 on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So you are representing the university
That treated joepa like shit, yeah go fuck yourself. My grandparents, parent, aunts, uncles, brothers, and myself all attended penn state but my children will not. I am sorry, but I am telling the truth.
by psu on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Please delete your "psu" handle then
You can sever all ties with the school over an injustice, that’s entirely your prerogative. But make this your last public appearance in any way representing yourself as a person with a PSU affiliation. I’d say the same thing to someone who announced that he or she was leaving the U.S. forever and “fuck the U.S.” because its current representative was a president he or she hated. Representatives are not the be all and end all of what an institution is. Erickson is not PSU. Even JoePa was not all there was to PSU, despite being the face of the school for decades.
Despite currently being the mouthpiece of an unpopular body that governs the corporate entity of PSU, Erickson is not PSU to the alumni. This much was shown by alumni ripping him in the town halls. It’s the same as if an already-hated political figure said something grossly unpopular, I wouldn’t take a shit all over the U.S. and everyone who considers himself or herself an American. I certainly wouldn’t announce that there was no way I’d let my kids grow up there. And I’d gladly revoke the passport of whoever would go that far to vilify the institution…and deport them.
by PSUCharmas on Jan 14, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
This is the exact same reaction Lavar Arrington and Brandon Short had
and they got blasted for it. And I’ll blast you too, we don’t need fickle people like you representing our university so poorly. If you’re only going to be a fair-weather Penn Stater, good riddance and don’t let the door hit you on your way out.
Never understood that expression
Why should I care if the door hits somebody I’m asking to leave and is that really a danger? What kind of hinges does this door have?
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
It's more concern for the door
than it is for the person exiting, RJM. No reason a perfectly good door has to be damaged by a person who needs to depart — quickly.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 15, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
I see. Thanks for the clarification.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 15, 2012 4:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In the immortal words of Curly Bill...
Well… Bye.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
Well said
I despise about 90% of American politicians, but I’m not leaving yet.
I don’t think Joepa himself would encourage people to see him as a victim here. Keep that in mind. He still loves PSU.
Besides, Universities are somewhat decentralized. Some president of Yale or whatever once said “A university is just a collection of departments that share the same steam plant.” So one’s actual experience at PSU could vary greatly depending on which department one studies in, what activities one joins, where one lives, who one chooses to socialize with, etc. The BOT or even the president’’s influence on day to day life is remote. My parents both taught at PSU for many, many years. When they talked about their jobs, they talked about their immediate colleagues and maybe the department head. Rarely did the dean of their respective colleges have much role in their life and the president’s influence was extremely remote.
You don't think Joe would encourage people to see him as the victim?
You can erase any doubt. Joe is a smart man. The timing and amount of his $100k December donation was very deliberate. He knew it would send a signal to alumni. Don’t focus on me, don’t make me the victim. In maybe his darkest hour, he believed that PSU meant something more. And so do I. He’s a man and hasn’t always been perfect. But let us, once again, try to hold ourselves up to the standard he has set for us.
Leaders Co-Champions
by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 14, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I have no doubt
I was deliberately understating. The technical term is litotes.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 14, 2012 11:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Actually, they said he donates $100,000 every year.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
The donation was actually a pledge fulfillment.
Not sure when that pledge was made — almost doesn’t matter, as the Paternos would have fulfilled it even if Joe had been crucified upside down — that’s the kind of people they are. And, that’s why most of us are indignant over the method in which Joe was fired relieved of his HC duties. We are happy about his coaching that built Penn State football; we admire and respect him because of his character and integrity.
P.S. Screw you haters who are convinced he “failed” the victims.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 14, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
90% is low.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
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