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The quote is “wishes” I believe. You know, if you want to be accurate.

I know deviancy has a negative connotation, I just meant “anything that isn’t a grown man and grown woman”. Child sexual abuse was never talked about, ever, until the Catholic Church scandal, and that was pretty recent.

My father came out of the closet about five years ago, and it took his parents (a few years younger than JoePa) months to even confront him about it. When they did, they asked him why he couldn’t just not be that way. They just didn’t understand what was going on at all. From personal experience, I can absolutely buy that Joe had no idea what McQueary was really referring to.

And I’m rapidly losing faith that the internal investigation is going to yield any significant new information either. All we’ll get from the legal proceedings against Sandusky is what the prosecution chooses to pursue, with their eye on getting the highest probability of conviction, not on finding truth. Any settlements in civil suits will have to be viewed as potential “punts” on the legal fees vs. just paying out and moving forward.

Unless someone finds some truth serum, all the major players have too much to lose for us to hear anything with any sort of candor. The PSU side of this story will end as it started; in a pile of horseshit, with intent indistinguishable from allegations.

I will say that I’m disappointed in Joe and his responses in this article. He’s not superman, but he’s not everyman, either. For him to try to sell us on him being an old man unfamiliar with the threats of the modern era (and kids got raped in all eras, folks. That’s nothing new. It’s been a scourge of humanity forever) is embarrassing. He’s a very successful leader of men and a teacher who embraced helping troubled young men and turning them around. He’s dancing around knowing or not knowing or not understanding that MM saw “something sexual” happening in the shower. It’s not the language you expect from the JoePa we have come to view as a moral compass.

I think it’s legalese at this point, which is really sad.

I learned that if you are an employee at any school or university in the commonwealth of Pennsylvania and you did not actually witness the sexual abuse of a child but you go to the police yourself, you can be arrested and thrown in jail for 3-5 years. According to the law, you are to go to your superior. Joe did, which in this case was Tim Curley. To have gone outside the chain of command could have legally put Joe in trouble.

As far as the interview goes, Joe said he never heard of a man raping a man. Let’s be real here. He may not have. Had my grandmother lived, she would be 85 right now. The same age as Joe. While talking with my mom about growing up and family history, etc., my mother told me that when she hit puberty my grandmother did not discuss it with her, or show her the things a young woman needed to do to handle such things. So Joe could be telling the truth here. Let’s face it, my grandmother’s and Joe’s generation didn’t discuss these kinds of things, and did not have such liberal access to pornogrophy to make them knowledgeable about such things. And I also read an article in Time last spring about men raping men. It happens in the military and other places to show power. That was the first I had ever heard of that concept. So, if I, growing up in this generation where sex is so pervasive, didn’t know how common man-on-man rape was, how was Joe to know?

And lastly, everybody wants to harp on Joe’s saying “With the benefit of hindsight I wish I had done more.” Most people muddle through life and are never faced with that single moment, and single instant in time where the course of somebody’s life is going to be altered forever. The people that mostly come to mind are policemen, firefighters, EMTs, military personal, etc. Ocassionally other people from different walks of life encounter this. I’m a locomotive engineer. This May will make 4 years since a young man used my locomotives as a method of committing suicide. Logic tells me that two engines going 47 miles an hour were not going to stop in 1,500 feet to avoid hitting somebody that was sprinting right at me. Co-workers called me to tell me not to feel guilty; there was nothing I could do. That’s logic. But for a while a part of me wondered “What if?” So when you think about the life altering moment that these victims endured, I’m sure Joe wonders what he could have done. That is not an admission of guilt and wrongdoing and people need to let that the fuck alone.

It sounds like Joe backed away from the situation due do a combination of being uncomfortable with the subject, and not qualified to handle it. While I can understand his reasoning, I am a bit disappointed that he didn’t go farther into getting an explanation from Curley or Schultz.

I think he had a lapse of judgement. It’s unfortunate that if Schultz had done his job, this wouldn’t be an issue. But still, I think most of us would expect that Joe would have been a little more involved.

In the end, while I am a bit disappointed, it hardly diminishes everything else he did in his life. I think Jesse. put it perfectly in the Washington Post thread.

He’s not a hero, he’s not a goat, he’s just the most famous guy that didn’t fix this.

was to try and see if you could get somebody to tell your troll friend he won, isn’t it?

1.Let me start by saying that I am a Paterno supporter. Let me also say that I have never believed he did enough. I find it hard to imagine that he, upon seeing JS after MM’s complaint, would not at a minimum, call Curley to find out how the issue was handled. That being said, I also can believe that for reasons of age, demands of the job and background Paterno did not spend any time on porn websites. He very possibly did not fully understand MM’s vague explanation of what MAY have transpired in the shower.
2.Picture you are the CEO of this $54M enterprise and someone comes into your office to complain about an EX-employee who is legally using the companies facilities. What would you say/do? Your ship is taking on water, remember is it the middle of the dark years (2002). I turn it over to someone in authority, tell the person complaining to go see him and then I get back to work fixing my $54M enterprise that is in crisis.
3.My first boss told me when dealing with customer complaints about our employees to remember one thing: "There are 2 sides to every story. Somewhere in the middle is the truth". Unfortunately, in the scandal, all of us are going to land at different points in the middle. We will never know the whole truth!