Wrestling, Southern Scuffle CHAMPIONSHIP UPDATE
Individual titles go so far in team wrestling tournaments. Penn State sent 6 wrestlers to the finals in 5 weight classes (Ed Ruth's backup, Matt Brown, bested the rest of the field at 174 to advance to the finals) and when all was said and done, they crowned 4 individual champions. Second place Minnesota, who beat us in the Big Ten dual meet last month, earned titles in 3 of the 5 weights in which they had finals participants. Final team scores:
| 1. | Penn State | PSU | 191.5 |
| 2. | Minnesota | MINN | 177.5 |
| 3. | Missouri | MISS | 136.0 |
| 4. | Cornell | CORN | 130.0 |
Penn State entered 15 wrestlers in the tournament and placed 11 of them in the top 8. Final scoring breakdowns per wrestler here.
Four champs: Molinaro, Taylor, Ruth & Wright (all four capable of doing the same at B1Gs or Nationals, albeit in much stronger fields)
Two 2nds: Brown & Alton (both showed they could contend for placing at B1Gs or AA'ing at Nationals)
Two 4ths: Wade & Megaludis (I'm not sure what these efforts taught us about their potentials in March)
Two 6ths: McIntosh & Vollrath (Vollrath, like Brown, continues to show the quality depth PSU has in the room and McIntosh got pretty ripped off in the consi semis vs. a top-5 guy)
One 8th: Gingrich (this is the kind of experience we need to develop at HWT, as Cam Wade graduates later this year)
Remaining questions include 133, where we sadly did not get to see TRSO Frankie Martellotti return to the mat and 141, where JR Bryan Pearsall went 3-2, but fizzled out in grand fashion in the R12. The departure of Sam Sherlock from the program this past week assures the starting job is Pearsall's, so we'll hope to see him continue to gain experience and hope he can score some for us in March. Beyond those two questions, the other story for Penn State was the Bonus Point scoring. PSU finished with 50.5 from their starters/scorers (and had an additional 10 Bonus Points from their non-scorers). This is a very nice showing in that department, because the fields get much more difficult in March when Iowa and then Oklahoma State enter the tournaments. Still, this was a very nice tourney for our lads and it gives us plenty to look forward to these next two months.
*I don't have an email for Galen, but would imagine he'll be back on the case for upcoming duals. (I hope these updates were ok, Galen)
UPDATE. Wow, consi medal rounds could not have gone worse for Penn State, who went 0-5 there. Minny, meanwhile had three wrestlers earn points for 3rd place: Storley at 157, Steinhaus at 184 and Yohn at 197. Team score after end of consolations and prior to the finals:
| 1. | Penn State | PSU | 172.5 |
| 2. | Minnesota | MINN | 168.5 |
| 3. | Missouri | MISS | 130.0 |
| 4. | Cornell | CORN | 126.0 |
That's a 4pt lead if you're counting at home, one insubstantial enough that Penn State can still finish 2nd in this tournament. Finals matchups below. I think I'm learning that, although scoring to date has defaulted to crediting our 'starters', in the end a team may take whichever wrestler has the highest points. At 174, Ruth has scored 25.5 and Brown has scored 21. So, if Brown wins, he'll have 25, but Ruth will still have 25.5 so we take Ruth's and, as such, receive no team gain to the current score. Alternatively, Sanderson could have Brown forfeit the match and Ruth (& PSU) would earn 6 pts (4 Plc for the 1st place & 2 Bonus for a forfeit). This could bring some negative reaction to Sanderson, both inside and outside the PSU wrestling room, but injury avoidance may also be at play. Hopefully, for the team, Ruth handles business, injury-free to both grapplers, and PSU earns an additional 4 to their current score.
Minny's got a weird one also at 133, where backup Chris Dardanes is in the finals with 17pts and starter David Thorn has placed third with 20pts. If Dardanes wins, he earns 4 more to finish with 21, so Minny would go with that score instead and 1 pt would be added to their current score. Also, any bonus Dardanes, who has zero bonus thus far, might earn in the final.
So, if PSU runs the table with their top guys, that would be 5 championships * 4pts = 20 total and game over. Same scenario but Brown beats Ruth, we get 4 * 4 = 16, PSU still wins. If Minny runs the table and comes out with 5 champions, they'd get 1 for Dardanes and 16 for the other four; PSU would get nothing from DT & Tank, but could still get 4 each from Alton, Ruth & Wright and win the team championship. So even with huge upsets over DT & Tank, Minny would still need one of Alton, Ruth or Wright to also lose.
Lastly, if DT & Tank win and Alton, Ruth & Wright all lose, PSU would still win the championship (8 pts that Minny cannot earn b/c of H2H; Sanders, Dardanes & Nelson can only earn 9Plc pts), unless the three of them combined also for 5.5 bonus points. Ok, it's getting a little silly scenario-wise. Barring huge upsets, PSU is likely to win the tourney, but can still do so in very impressive fashion. Best news of all? Free live video (quality not yet seen) can be had here. GO LIONS!
125
#1 Zach Sanders (Minnesota) vs #3 Alan Waters (Missouri)
133
UNR Nick Soto (UTC) vs. Chris Dardanes (Minnesota)
141
#5 Michael Mangrum (Oregon State) v. UNR Darrius Little (NC State)
149
#1 Frank Molinaro (Penn State) vs. #11 Dylan Ness (Minnesota)
157
#10 Dylan Alton (Penn State) vs. #1 Kyle Dake
165
#1 David Taylor (Penn State) vs. #10 Cody Yohn (Minnesota)
174
#2 Ed Ruth (Penn State) vs. UNR Matt Brown (Penn State)
184
#5 Quentin Wright (Penn State) vs. #4 Steve Bosak (Cornell)
197
#1 Cam Simaz (Cornell) vs. #19 Brent Haynes (Missouri)
285
#7 Tony Nelson (Minnesota) vs. #4 Clayton Jack (Oregon State)
MORNING NOTES:
I'm guessing the fellas will have a lot of football threads on Page One, so am starting this one in the sidebar. Big thanks to Galen for the audio-to-text transcription efforts yesterday. 42 Bonus points our lads rang up and he keyed each one of them in and in rapid fashion! It's very nice to see that, up and down the lineup, the guys are registering that the big tourneys in March are gonna be tightly contested and that every little bit helps the team.
And speaking of those tourneys in March, one of Penn State's closest competitors in both the Big Ten & National championship tournaments is very likely to be the Minnesota Golden Gophers. They smacked us in the mouth a bit in the dual meet in Rec Hall in December and are sitting on our heels in this tournament in Chattanooga. At the start of today's action, the team score leaderboard looked like this:
1. Penn State PSU 118.0
2. Minnesota MINN 110.5
3. Missouri MISS 83.5
4. Cornell CORN 79.0
They also have 8 wrestlers still alive in the championship bracket in 7 weight classes (to our 9 in 7). The semifinals, which begin at 11a along with the consolation quarterfinals, bring more big team scoring opportunities. Winners guarantee themselves at least a 2nd place finish and, as such, get 6 more Placement points scored to their team. Before yesterday's quarterfinals, most of the team scoring was made up of Advancement (1 pt for championship bracket wins & .5 for consi wins) and Bonus (2 for pins, 1.5 for tech falls w/near fall pts, and 1 for TFs with no nf pts and for Major Decisions). But now the the Placement points are beginning to kick in. Here's a quick review of their scoring:
1st place = 16
2nd =12
3rd = 10
4th = 9
5th = 7
6th = 6
7th = 4
8th = 3
I made this google doc for itemizing our wrestlers' contributions to our team score and will keep it updated throughout today. Here are the semifinal matchups, using Intermat national rankings:
125
#1 Zach Sanders (Minnesota) v. #9 Matt Snyder (Virginia)
#7 Frank Perrelli (Cornell) v. #3 Alan Waters (Missouri)
133
#5 David Thorn (Minnesota) v. UNR Nick Soto (UTC)
UNR Nick Arujau (Cornell) v. UNR Chris Dardanes (Minnesota)
141
#5 Michael Mangrum (Oregon State) v. #19 Nick Nelson (Virginia)
UNR Darrius Little (NC State) v. UNR Nick Hucke (Missouri)
149
#1 Frank Molinaro (Penn State) v. #20 Scott Sakaguchi (Oregon State)
#11 Dylan Ness (Minnesota) v. #14 Kyle Bradley (Missouri)
157
#1 Kyle Dake (Cornell) v. UNR James Vollrath (Penn State)
UNR Corey Mock (North Carolina) v. #10 Dylan Alton (Penn State)
165
#1 David Taylor (Penn State) v. #20 Kyle Blevins (Appalachian State)
#10 Cody Yohn (Minnesota) v. #3 PJ Gillespie (Hofstra)
174
#2 Ed Ruth (Penn State) v. UNR Patrick Wright (Missouri)
#11 Logan Storley (Minnesota) v. UNR Matt Brown (Penn State)
184
#4 Steve Bosak (Cornell) v. #10 Austin Trotman (Appalachian State)
#5 Quentin Wright (Penn State) v.#15 Luke Rebertus (Navy)
197
#1 Cam Simaz (Cornell) v. #11 Morgan McIntosh (Penn State)
#19 Brent Haynes (Missouri) v. #2 Sonny Yohn (Minnesota)
285
#7 Tony Nelson (Minnesota) v. UNR Chad Hanke (Oregon State)
#8 Cameron Wade (Penn State) v. #4 Clayton Jack (Oregon State)
Obviously, we're big Missouri & Oregon State fans today in matches not affecting our wrestlers.
The best starting page for other updates and resources is Penn State Wrestling Club: http://pennstatewrestlingclub.org/ Their front page is the best way to navigate to trackwrestling.com's live brackets and team scoring and you may need to close those browsers periodically and re-launch from here. They also have links to the ($$) audio and then, later tonight, to the free video for the finals!
Remaining schedule:
9:00am- 4th Round Consolation (4 Mats, 40 Matches)
11:00am- Semifinals (2 Mats, 20 Matches) and Consolation Quarterfinals (2 Mats, 20 Matches)
1:00pm- Consolation Semifinals (4 mats, 20 Matches)
2:30pm- Medal Matches (3rd-8th Place) (3 mats, 30 Matches)
6:00pm- Finals (1 Mat)
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R12 Consi Updates
The ‘Round of 12’ is the fence. At nationals, it’s the spot where winners earn All-American honors and losers get nuttin. Penn State had two wrestlers last year at Nationals who made it to the quarterfinals in the championship bracket, lost there, got bumped to the R12 in the consolation bracket and lost there as well, barely missing AA status. Andrew Alton is redshirting this year, but Cameron Wade is in his final year of eligibility and will be hoping to improve on that this March.
In today’s tournament, we had/have a few there also. At 125, Nico Megaludis, our talented true freshman, got caught on his back in the quarters (fought it off to avoid the pin) and lost 9-3. In the R12 this morning, he roared back with a 19-2 Tech Fall, to earn the team an additional 5 pts (.5 consi Adv, 1.5 Bonus & 3 Plc for earning at least 8th). He’s still alive and can still earn 3rd place.
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141 Pearsall
Got mauled by Minny’s Mike Nevinger in a 17-0 TF. His best finish is R12 (along with three other wrestlers who narrowly missed placing) and he is done for the tournament. Still, he gave the team 6.5 points in going 3-2.
One of our other 141 pounders, Sam Sherlock has been removed from the team according to PSU Wrestling SID, Pat Donghia, for ‘violation of team rules and policies.’ So it looks like our ceiling hopes for this weight now reside solely with the JR Pearsall. I’m afraid that this tournament, especially with the mauling he received in this R12 may be an indicator that we should not expect much more than this scoring-wise at B1Gs or Nationals.
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HWT Jon Gingrich
Gingrich’s points aren’t counting toward our team score. He’s a redshirting freshman who was brought along for experience. But Sanderson said after one of his matches yesterday that he is ‘the best athlete in his weight class.’ Not sure what’s going on with Sanderson lately, if he’s experimenting with attitude-type coaching, but he’s been dropping some unbelievable superlatives of late.
Anyway, Gingrich in the R12 defeated Cornell’s Jochym (a senior with a 10-7 record) and is now guaranteed at least 8th place. He earned an additional 3.5 for the team, his total is now 9.5 and he can still earn up to 3rd place. Go Jon!
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Nico up
Consi quarters, vs. Cornell’s Bricker Dixon (6-3) on the year.
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If he wins, he moves on still fighting for 3rd
If he loses, he wrestles in the 7th place bout
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Nico up 3-2
with 1:07 riding time.
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After 1
Escape Nico, up 4-2.
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Byers on audio
’he’s just relentless’, ‘keeps the pressure on the head.’
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Dixon fighting off multiple Nico shots
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Byers cautioning against impatience
‘tries to force things sometimes when it’s not there.’
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Dixon chose down to start the 3rd
Nico arm bar, working him….Dixon bellied out…
(damn, I haven’t listened to Byers in a long time. Missed him!)
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Riding Time assured
Up 5-2 including that.
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Stall warning against Dixon
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Byers:
‘and I mean Dixon has not been able to get off of his belly.’
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A DECISIVE 5-2 WIN FOR NICO
Love me some Ironvoice! Moves on to the consi semis.
That’s another 3.5 team pts for Nico: .5 consi Adv, 0 Bonus, 3 Plc for earning at least 6th.
He’s earned 14 for the tourney.
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Sounds great for a true frosh!
Hopefully he is a force for years to come.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it sounds like he will be
It sucks we have to send these two guys out so raw their TRFR years (him & McIntosh), but nice we’re getting bluechippers who can hold their own when so doing.
We’ve got another one coming in next year, Jimmy Gulibon, so will be interesting to see how they run the redshirts then.
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As long as they don't go Bolden on us.
That experiment has been painful.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, we haven't seen the back-end results much yet, under Sanderson
Q came in before Sanderson did, wrestled as a TRFR, placed 6th nationally, then RS’d in Sanderson’s first year. Then, he came back out in Sanderson Y2 and won the National Championship.
Andrew Alton was forced into action as a TRFR last year in one of the deepest weights (141). He stayed in the top 10 all year, but come Nationals, he fizzled after getting to the quarters and didn’t AA. He did score 7pts for the team, tho we won the championship by more than that. We’ll see how he looks when he takes over for Tank at 149 next year.
Then you’ve got the dudes Sanderson was able to RS in their TRFR years:
Taylor: lost a few unattached while redshirting, then only once in RSFR year
Ruth: same. Lost twice all year RSFR
Dylan Alton: yet to be seen. He’s lost twice this year, but seems around top ten.
There’s lots of evidence in some of the backups that the Sanderson Room is a hotbed of competition tho. I’m optimistic that most will come back to true comp after redshirting looking much much better.
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JtotheP, pace yourself.
We burnt out poor Galen yesterday, asking him for every detail. Gives us the scores at the end of each period and match — a blow-by-blow will leave you with arthritis.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Jtot can go full speed.
I know if I were doing this, I would.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
OK.
Galen was great yesterday, but I bet he is on IR today.
Happy 2012, RR! I enjoy your contributions to the military debates that pop up sometimes and for defending the 717 so strongly. Would like to relocate back to the 717/570 this year . . .
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
sick burn!
Sup bman! You at the office today?
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no, at home still holidaying. havent seen the office since 11 am the 23rd
I think I’ll retire tomorrow. Almost hurts to go back. Wife is cleaning her ass off all around me as I watch the cooking channel and read BSD, giving me dirty looks and sighing a lot, cupboards slamming occasionally, maybe work won’t be so bad tomorrow.
I just read.
Hilarious!
I know these things you describe.
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You need a bigger house
so you have more places to hide from the Wrath of Wife.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I found a copy of the Centurions on Amazon.
Price? 1,500 dollars.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I may have a source that is much cheaper.
Will try to find and post during football game.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
need to finish the basement so I can disappear there
Its been a 20 year project, getting close now.
I just read.
Yeah, same here with our second-level.
Built house in 1997, wanted the upstairs finished before the boys started HS — they are now 21 and 19 . . . .
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I actually had a bedroom in the basement when my youngest was born in '92
I ripped out the one wall to make one room about 7 years ago and havent finished.
I just read.
Someday . . . .
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, duly received!
Still, on my second cup of coffee and my first listen of Jeff Ironvoice Byers in a year. I do plenty of lazy in my life, so have learned to strike while the iron is hot if you know what I’m saying…
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You go, bro!
I’ll be bouncing back and forth between here and the bowl game, but I truly appreciate you keeping me informed.
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
ahh shite, almost forgot about football ;)
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It's starts Sunni.
(Bad pun to your “Shite”.)
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Opponent news at 125 not so great
- Sanders advanced via major. At least Waters did also, so maybe he can hold off Sanders for the 4pt championship.
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133 Opponent news
Minny’s got two dudes here in the semis (see OP above). One is the ranked Thorn, the other is the younger brother of 141 pounder Nick Dardanes named Chris Dardanes, who I believe is redshirting.
Dardanes won 13-10 and advances. Thorn is into Sudden Victory with Soto.
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Soto gets 3 NF points and takes a 4-1 lead
He’s from University of Tennessee Chattanooga, the host of the tourney. Crowd going wild.
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Woot!
Soto, the hometown hero, advances to the finals by knocking off Gopher Thorn. I’m guessing that Dardanes was previously identified as a non-scorer, so of the two of them, it’s much better for PSU that Thorn lost than vicey versy
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I'm rooting for Penn Staters
and non-Gophers.
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Choo got it meng
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Oooh, Nico's opponent in the consi semis
is #9 Matt Snyder from UVA. Should be another amazing test for young Nico.
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141 semis we don't care much about
Beaver Mangrum wins 3-1 to advance to finals.
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Hucke & Little battling
NCST Little advances to the final. Only impact is that if he wins again, Pearsall can say he lost to the eventual champ.
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Pearsall must of really come out flat to get dominated like he did today.
I think he has a nice upside as the season goes on.
I just read.
yeah, I didn't have the radio on yet at that point
Nevinger’s pretty nice, but damn. That was a maul.
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(ed note)
I’m kinda fascinated by the time that passes between the last cup of coffee and the desire to next have a beer.
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beers are calling from the fridge. Noon start for football and I'm having a Vermonster for lunch
100 ibu, 10 % from Rock Art Brewery
I just read.
(Rambler note)
Will people think I’m crazy if I say “woop woop” every now and then like Waylon Jennings?
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
Answer: Yes, they will, but, no, it doesn’t matter because I’ve always been crazy.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
TANK IS UP!
3x AA and number one seed.
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wow
Stall warning on Tank. Byers incredulous how quick that was.
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No score after 1
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Sakaguchi chooses down
to start the second.
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Ness winning 4-2 over Bradley in other match
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Now 6-2 Ness
Damn, but cool if Tank can see him again.
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Damn
No score. Tank has 2mins Riding Time.
Chooses down.
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Escape, 1-0
TD Tank
3-0 plus RT
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Love it when Byers says our opponents are 'bellied out'
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Otherwise, this match sounds kinda boring
20 secs left
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Tank wins 4-0
With 3+ mins of RT. Advances to finals. Earns an additional 6pts for earning at least 2nd, plus 1 Adv. His total is 20 for the tourney.
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Ness won 9-3
So a rematch for the title.
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Tank gets that leg ride in and does just maul guys into the mat.
You can’t get off the mat and if you try to get to base he’ll run the power half and turn you.
I just read.
Vollrath in on Dake
Has leg high in the air, but Dake kicks free.
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Identical to Tank's match with Dake in the final last year
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(a 1-0 loss for Tank)
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It was a lot more than 1-0
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Nah, the Scuffle final was only 1-0
The national final was way worse.
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oh, nevermind
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Vollrath 'really battling'
‘And I mean, right in the face of Kyle Dake.’
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0-0
Vollrath chooses neutral to start 2nd
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Vollrath fights in behind Dake
Dake shakes it off.
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Waching Dake last year, he is one of the best defensive wrestlers/counter wrestlers that doesn’t stall I have ever watched.
I just read.
Yeah, he's kinda sick
Most fun to see on top. He’s like a blanket.
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Dude is becoming one of my favorite.
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Dammit
Dake got in and gets a trip. 2-0 Dake to start the 3rd, chooses top.
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oops, Dake chooses down
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Escape Dake
TD also.
5-0 Dake.
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1 min of RT For Dake
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Dake wins 6-0
But Byers is VERY impressed by the effort of Vollrath.
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me too
Not sure what’s up with Cowburn, but I’m very happy with Vollrath.
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Dylan on now as well
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Escape
Alton 1-0.
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Alton shoots in on a single
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stalemate
57 secs left in 2nd
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1-0 Alton, Mock chose down to start the 3rd
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I know, but he's gotten better, already this year
Which I love to see.
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blood timeout for Alton, cut over his eye
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Byers is pretty subdued in this match
Alton has 30secs of RT.
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Mock, true soph, 16-6 this year
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his dad is the UNC coach, CD Mock
Assistants? Cary Kolat.
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I think CD Mock was a National Champion back in the day
Anybody confirm?
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Mock escape
but Alton has 1:08 RT.
Alton TD!
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VERY nice and hardfought win
Alton wins, 4-1 to advance to face undefeated 2x National Champ Kyle Dake in the final tonight.
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Yeah, I'm so curious to see if he can improve upon Andrew's contributions last year
Andrew won two matches, advancing to quarters. Then consecutive losses, including to Kemmerer, who he had defeated earlier. Total = 7pts, no AA.
We’re likely to need Dylan to do more than this this year.
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I think he will
but mainly because the weight is not nearly as deep as 141 was last year. Its top heavy but I would not be suprised to see him 5-8 at the end.
I just read.
IT'S HAMMERIN' TIME
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
11 of DT's 12-0 record have been pins or TFs
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Byers notes DT 'taking a deep breath'
Not sure if those ribs are still bothering him.
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Remember: he is from Ohio.
They are weaker out there.
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I meant to tell you this the other day, but DT actually grew up mostly in Wyoming
Before freshman year of HS, when it was clear he had some Magic future in the sport of rasslin, Papa Taylor, who worked for an airline, I believe, moved to Ohio to wrestle for that cat at St. Graham.
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So he's not an Ohioan.
This means he probably spent time breeding Wyoming elk with horses to create the perfect unicorn.
I sense an opportunity for a new mythology.
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Unicorn leading 11-2
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Stall warning on DT after about 3 seconds
Byers again surprised.
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Final 12-3 Major
Third finalist for Nittany Lions.
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Taylor's team point total = 23
6 of them Bonus points.
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Also, Cody Yohn advanced to Unicorn Fodder for the final
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Also, you'uns
I found this comment on Youtube in response to a trailer for a film called pinned about high school wrestlers in Cleveland:
its fucking cleveland ohio…try to do this shit in central PA
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ESPN gives us a lame intro with some guy rapping or something.
Also, “Bowl Week Pride”.
Seriously?
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jtot
I ain’t posting in the football open thread. Those non-wrestling fans are pussies. I’m staying here and will try not to fill up the thread with football comments.
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thanks
I trust your judiciousness (this is a coaching technique)
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I've decided, without reason, that Houston fans are complete jerks.
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1:14 RT for Ruth
Chose down, escape!
5-1
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Note: I shall refer to Houston as "the pansies" from now on.
The pansies start with the ball at their own 22 or so.
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Damn it
Pansies out to PSU 30, failed to keep contain, men downfield couldn’t hold their guys
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Houston's coach looks like (and is dressed like) a French assassin.
It’s kind of awesome
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no score 1 min in
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wish I could see this
I haven’t seen Matt Brown yet.

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TD Storley
Brown escape.
down 2-1
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Byers is calm for this match
Not much action?
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TD! Double leg with 4secs left
3-2 lead!
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byers
‘oh was that nice work by brown?!’
‘Really nice work by Brown’
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Reversal Brown!
5-2 lead.
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Escape Storley
5-3 lead for Brown.
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tots arrived. missed Storley’s pt.
5-4 Brown
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35 seconds left
Has RT assured, but Storley gets reversal.
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Could be worse
You could be watching this game.
I have the alarming feeling that Rob Bolden is literally going to throw this thing away.
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
umm, jacked it up
7-5, Storley gave Brown the escape.
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Brown wins 7-5!
Knocks off the Minny kid!
All PSU Final. Brown vs. Ruth!
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Sweet, yay, etc
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Ruth won 10-1 Major
He’s 5-0 with bonus in all of them. Has brought 25.5 team points.
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Pansies takes too long to write
But these pussies are still going to lose.
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I've decided that I would be a better announcer than Danny Kanell.
Also, Case Keenum is a horrible name and a worse person. I’ve decided this without knowing him personally.
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That touchdown was "not a punch in the mouth", announcer.
It was like being slapped in the face by a dainty little flower.
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They're not concerned about Bolden's rust; they're concerned about his confidence.
I’m concerned about him sucking.
Also, three yard gain on 1st down
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We threw on 3rd and 1
Bolden threw it fifty feet above Zordich.
That was retarded.
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I went to Dallas once.
The water tasted like rock or sand. I’m not sure which
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I know jtot will take my crap
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe let us get through these semis?
Should be over in about 15-30mins.
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Screw Texas. also, sure, whatever
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Houston's offense is so pansy
I don’t care if it works, they’re complete pansies
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No pressure on this drive
Houston’s gone hurry-up to tire our linemen out. At our 20, 3rd down
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Nice open field tackle by Stupar to force the FG attempt
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
10-0, pansies with pansy offense and bad tackling
Can you tell this game is annoying me?
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
So, all of our "coaching candidates" are guys from the NFL?
Lame. Who the hell is Bill O’Brien and who cares?
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Some Pansy with a terrible college coaching resume
Bot OH! he worked with Tom Brady! So he must be good
If we can't run the ball against these idiots, then I'm gonna shoot something
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Q on now
Rebertus chooses bottom in the 2nd. nil-nil.
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Rebertus knocked off Steinhaus in the quarters
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Bosak in the other semi
1-0 plus 1:54 RT
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Bosak RT assured
2-0 with that.
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State College High grad, Bosak is
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He's a traitor to his state!
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
He passed up the Blue and White to go Big Red?
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Cornell's a bunch of commies, you know?
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Q gets NF pts
2-0 lead to start the 3rd.
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plus 2mins of RT
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Q up 6-0 (RT assured and included)
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Rebertus in for a TD
Gives an escape.
7-3 win for Q!
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Final featuring Q and
‘his ole buddy Steve Bosak,’ says Byers.
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I guess
Bald Eagle vs. State High? Figure they’d be familiar.
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Also, this play calling sucks
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
So we've forced Rob Bolden into a 3rd and 11
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
sigh, 4th down again
Bolden scrambled for about 8
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
ESPNU has the weirdest commercials
Catholics Come Home.org? WTF?
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
"We are!....the Catholic Church!"
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Fortt 3 yard TFL on 3rd down
Finally a stop
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Annddd Astorino muffs the punt and we're at our own 5 yard line
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Once again, we run the ball on first and second for little effect and it’s 3rd and long
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Bolden underthrows a wide open Dayvon, 4th down
SOMEONE KILL ME
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Houston ball at midfield
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
3rd and 3
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
easy completion for 1st
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Houston ball to 9 yard line
I’m just going to embrace the suck
I blame the BoT
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
TD Houston
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
McIntosh up.
Vs. 3x AA and #1 ranked Simaz.
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Simaz' only loss is a med default in the Body Bar tourney
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finished 3rd the past two seasons at Nationals
Gets TD.
MM down 2-0
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MM escape
Simaz another TD. 4-1.
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Simaz has over a min in RT
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Byers praising MM
‘Even tho he got ridden the entire period….I mean, Simaz is the prohibitive favorite to win the national title, McIntosh is really fighting here.’
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MM in on TD attempt
Stalemate.
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Simaz another TD
then cuts him.
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Another TD & escape
12-5
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MM fights off the major
Simaz wins 12-5.
Byers singing praises of both of them.
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Oooh, other semi
Minny’s Yohn just lot back pts to Mizzou’s Haynes. Good news.
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Haynes advances, Minny booted to consis
Next up for MM is M. Powless of Indiana, who got majored earlier by Haynes.
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Consi quarters sound like they're done
Or, at least, our guys are done there, so Byers not saying much on them.
Remaining skej:
1:00pm- Consolation Semifinals (4 mats, 20 Matches)
2:30pm- Medal Matches (3rd-8th Place) (3 mats, 30 Matches)
6:00pm- Finals (1 Mat)
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Cam Wade on now
weighs about 278.
Trails 2-1
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Jack gets TD
Wade down 4-1
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Jack chooses neutral for 2nd
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Anspach & Sanderson in the corner for Wade
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Wade in on a TD attempt
Being countered….
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Wade chooses top for the 3rd
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got too high, almost lost it
stalemate.
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stall warning on Jack
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over a min in RT for Cam
Needs a tilt.
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gets a stall point
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Wade loses 4-3
1:22 RT advantage but not enough to overcome the two TDs in the first.
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And Nelson won the other semi
So Minny gains some ground in the team race.
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I still say there's no way in hell these SWC wannabes are better than us.
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Still is yelling at people on the sidelines
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Every pass attempt with Bolden has been an overly drawn out play action facing a blitz
This is painful
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
4th 3 and out of the game
Good Lord
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Another lousy punt by Fera and Houston starts at their own 37
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Salters says Still is angry and "embarrassed"
He’s also not in the game right now
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End of 1
Houston 17, Penn State 0. The Wildcats or Cougars or whatever they are will face 3rd down and 2.
Penn State has had four offensive possessions and zero first downs.
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Bradley, who is never aggressive, calls a blitz and forces Keenum into an incompletion
FG attempt
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
miss
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
We got a first down
We actually got a 1st down
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
And then the dreaded Dayvon end around loses four yards
Does every play have to take an hour to develop?
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Moye can't hang on to a huge pass
Dang it
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
On 3rd and 13, Bolden forces it to Moye and it’s nearly picked
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Also, Brown was open over the middle
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just thankful he's throwing spirals right now.
It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.
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We'd be probably winning this game if the offense wasn't a total dumpster fire
This Houston team is not that good, man. That’s what pisses me off.
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
It's not like we're playing Wisconsin
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
ReadingRambler, try this site.
http://www.hailerpublishing.com/biglist.html
Look in the lower-rigth corner of this page. When you move the book to your cart, the price reverts back to $29.99. You can either pay that or e-mail the publisher to point out it is listed at $19.99 he honors that price.
Good luck!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
thanks
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
This is for The Praetorians
which is the second book in Larteguy’s trilogy. Still looking for my source for Centurions.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
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PSU Wrestlers Summary
125 Nico in consi semis vs. UVA’s Snyder, still working for 3rd, no worse than 6th.
133 Reber out early, no points
141 Pearsall & Beitz both done
149 Tank in finals vs. Minny’s Ness
157 Alton in finals vs. Cornell’s Dake
Vollrath in consi semis vs. UTC’s Waddell, still working for 3rd, no worse than 6th
165 Taylor in finals vs. Minny’s Yohn
174 Ruth in finals vs. PSU’s Brown
184 Wright in finals vs. Cornell’s Bosak
197 McIntosh in consi semis vs. Indy’s Powless, still workin for 3rd, no worse than 6th
HWT Wade in consi semis vs. Ohio’s Jeremy Johnson, still working for 3rd, no worse than 6th
Gingrich in 7th place match; either 7th or 8th
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Thanks for the constant updates jtothep.
Nice to have a distraction from the other so called sporting event going to today. At least we finally got a first down.
bet dude
I’m having a ball.
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Defense forces a 3 and out
Why, it’s almost as if giving our defense time to rest improves their performance
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Come on, Offense!
Score some points!!
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Team Score Update
This should be accurate until consi semis which should begin here quite soon.
1. Penn State PSU 163.5
2. Minnesota MINN 152.0
3. Cornell CORN 116.5
4. Missouri MISS 114.5
Finals set:
125 Waters (Mizz) vs. Sanders (Minn)
133 Soto (UTC) vs. Dardanes (Minn, but not scoring)
141 Mangrum (Ore St.) vs. Little (NCST)
149 Molinaro (PSU) vs. Ness (Minn)
157 Alton (PSU) vs. Dake (Cornell)
165 Taylor (PSU) vs. Yohn (Minn)
174 Ruth (PSU) vs. Brown (PSU)
184 Wright (PSU) vs. Bosak (Cornell)
197 Simaz (Cornell) vs. Haynes (Mizzou)
HWT Jack (Ore St) vs. Nelson (Minn)
So, all in all, the semis again went well for PSU vs. a threatening opponent. For next round, PSU has 5 dudes who can score the additional 4Plc pts a championship brings, while Minny only has 4. They also have some dudes in the consis I haven’t looked into too deeply. So, if they were to get wins in the finals from Nelson & Sanders (both the higher seeds, but facing tough comp) & huge upsets over Tank & DT, they could still threaten us for the team championship.
Mostly, tho, I’d suspect the finals to go more according to seed. Tank & DT would give us 8pts (plus any bonus they might be up to) that Minny would not. Sanders & Nelson could negate that, although they’re not as heavily favored. Quentin & Bosak is probably an equal tossup.
At 174, I’m not sure what the protocol is for Sanderson. I’d guess for the team championship since Brown is not scoring that they’d just have him forfeit, but that sucks for Brown.
Say Sanders & Nelson equal DT & Tank, if Q & Ruth win that’s another 8 for us. I won’t count on anything more from Alton, although I’m very interested to see how he fares. All in all, I’d guess that our 11.5 pt lead should be quite plenty given reasonable expectations in the next round.
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And with that, I missed another Nico win!
Onto the 3rd place match for Nico, earning a 4-1 win and earning another 3 for at least 4th. Rematch for 3rd place with Perrelli!
Very exciting!
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Nico earned another 3.5, totalling 17 for the tourney
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Vollrath on now, consi semis
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shoots, highcrotch
can’t quite get it in….hanging on
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Waddell chooses down for the 2nd
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Vollrath isn't scoring for us
And also, since Minny’s Jake Deitschler got yet another concussion last month and is out for the time-being and maybe the year/career, Minny’s got nobody left scoring that Vollrath can knock out.
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Waddell leading 2-0
Vollrath leading RT over a min.
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headed into the 3rd, Vollrath chooses down
RSSO VOllrath is.
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escape 7 secs in!
2-1, with Vollrath 1:11 RT advantage.
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would win it
that is.
nothing would head to SV.
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Ut-oh
Ref gave the TD to Vollrath, but Byers thinks it came after the buzzer. They waived it off, Byers agree twas the right call.
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Vollrath trying to escape for the win
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Period ends, 2-2
Second tie-breaker period, Waddell down.
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Waddell escapes
Vollrath loses, 3-2, in a heartbreaker.
Next up wrestling for 5th place.
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Dammit, I love this kid
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McIntosh on next, consi semis
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vs. Indy's Powless, ranked #4 Intermat
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MM big double leg, up 2-0
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Powless escape, 2-1 MM
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Powless escape, 2-2
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Another MM shot, but another stalemate
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In on another double
Stalemate
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Big scramble, MM dodges a nice Powless shot
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MM chooses down to start the 3rd, 2-2 still
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Powless TD, 35 secs left
4-3 Powless
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needs escape, 25 secs left
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OMG
MM gets a reversal with one second left!
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Coach talking to officials
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byers goin crazy!
thinks he got it.
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Wait, scorers table calling official over.
MM’s arm not yet raised.
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/drama
/dramas….
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They have waived it off!
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The second judge had come over and supported 1st official call
NOw they have waived it off.
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Byers flabbergasted
‘I dont’ think I have ever seen that. I’ve never seen coaches be able to talk the refs out of a score.’
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Going down as a 4-3 loss
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sounds like straight shite
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Byers
‘I don’t know how else you explain it, but the Indiana coaches talked them out of it.’
‘The ref had MM’s wrist in his hand, ready to raise it.’
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MM will wrestle for 5th
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vs. Minny's backup 197er, Scott Schiller
Who got teched by Simaz to start, then won 5 in a row in the consis before dropping just now to Yohn.
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Cael should have challenged the Indi coach to a match to settle it
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Yeah, Byers didn't say much about what Sanderson was doing
Only mention was at first ‘Cael listening intently….’
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Cael just won some international championship this summer
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Yeah I'm aware of that, that's why I'd love to see it
Would imagine he’d get a pin in roughly 30 seconds.
I know nothing about Indy's coach
Also, I assume Cael would toy with him for 15-20 seconds before doing anything real.
Okay, sounds reasonable, he just messes with him for awhile
Then puts him down with one move. While the team yells. “Finish Him” ala mortal combat.
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will wrestle for 3rd
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vs. Hanke , unattached of Oregon, who lost the other semi and won his consi semi by pin also
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Team Score Update
Damn, that MM ripoff hurt. That was 3.5 pts we missed out on. As such, Minny closed a little gap.
1. Penn State PSU 172.5
2. Minnesota MINN 164.5
3. Missouri MIZZ 126.5
4. Cornell CORN 120.0
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How are things set up for the finals and consolations?
Are we in good shape to take this thing or what?
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I think so. Upsets can screw us, for sure, but mostly should be ok
Us Consis:
Nico, Wade & MM can earn another point each for winning their 3rd & 5th place matches, plus any bonus
Minny’s in a similar boat there I think, maybe they have 4 guys there instead?
Us finals:
Tank, Taylor & Ruth are big favorites for an extra 4 pts each, plus bonus. Q is a toss-up, but fully capable of another 4. Alton isn’t likely to earn more.
Minny finals:
A few toss-ups/favoreds, a few would need huge upsets over us
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Nico on vs. Perrelli
Stall point against Perrelli
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plus RT, Nico loses 6-4
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Nico takes 4th
14-3 on the season. Brought 17.5 to the team for this tourney.
That’s a lot more than we should reasonably expect at Nationals or B1Gs, but dude is improving a lot…
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Glad to see that someone in the Blue and White is playing well today
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Finals begin at 6p
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Thanks for doing this
Following this thread earlier was a nice distraction from the travesty that was our bowl game. I really appreciate your efforts.
thanks for the words
It’s been fun.
Also, let me know if I jacked up any of the scenarios above (I’m sure I did somewhere), but I think it’s gonna be real tough for Minny to win if they don’t upset Tank & Taylor. Ness can give Tank a handful, and DT’s been nursing some sore ribs I think, so it’s not impossible. But even with both of those, Sanderson still has 6pts in his bag if he wants to forfeit Brown, so I think we’re probably covered.
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I'm probably not the best to check
I’m not the most knowledgeable guy when it comes to wrestling. Being from central PA I don’t follow wrestling as much as I probably should (or would like to). I’ve gone to matches in the past and I try to stay up to date with how PSU is doing, but I’m far from being a huge wrestling guy.
These threads the past two days have been as educational for me as they have been entertaining, so thanks.
Cool
the sport always needs new fans, so welcome.
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PSU Consi Finishes, all losses in their last matches
125 Nico, 4th place
157 Vollrath, 6th place
197 McIntosh, 6th place
HWT Wade, 4th place
HWT Gingrich, 8th place
I still don’t know what to expect from Wade come March tourney time, but I think we’re seeing, given their youth and talent, that we can expect a few wins from each of Nico & McIntosh. There’s still two very full and competitive months left before it gets really real, but both these young dudes are improving and are going to be very much counted on to perform then.
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Updated PSU Scoring Breakdown
Here. Check my math/scoring please. I think it’s tuned up, but welcome feedback.
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Free Live Video?
It looked like I had to pay to get the video. Any others seeing this?
Sure enough
I gone and mis-spoke and put the free in there, even tho the PSWC site does not say that.
Suck! Sorrry.
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Live Video update
$6.95 one-time charge to UTC’s content. Need MS Silverlight.
I did it, have decent picture, few stutters. Decent sync with Byers PSU audio.
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check that
sync with a diff audio is kinda awful. Not sure what I’ll do when PSU guys come on.
THe video has no audio commentary, only background cheers. Weird.
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Cool, Byers just confirmed my count of Dardanes vs Thorn above in the update
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Sanders DEC Waters 1-0
Minny takes team lead.
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Check that
Minny TIES team lead. Bofe us at 172.5.
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Dardanes & Soto up
If Dardanes wins, only 1 add’l pt will go to Minny. If he loses, nothing of course.
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Tank wins by Major, 9-1
PSU back to 4pt lead.
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Awesome
Thanks for your effort here, by the way. You and Galen have been killing it the past two days
Premature
Alton first.
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Dake chooses down
0-0 to start the second.
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ha
lost 3-0, Dake is champ
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Taylor WBF!
PSU clinches the team championship.
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Ruth up 6-2 heading to 3rd over Brown
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Ruth Brown is fun
Ruth Taylor would be triple that. Hotdamn, I love watching Ruth wrestle.
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gotta be
How Dake manages to wrestle the weights he’s been winning c-ships at I have no idea. He’s huge.
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Yeah, and also DT, right?
Is next year the year we RS MM & bump Taylor, Ruth, Q?
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That has GOT to be in play now doesn't it?
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6-3 win for Ruth
4 more team pts to PSU’s lead.
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Q & Bosak up next
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2-1 Q
TD, escape
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Q chooses down to start the 2nd
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Get the Bosak chooses top
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Q wins 10-3
PSU’s 4th champion.
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No worries
Yes, he did. The Navy kid, Rebertus, knocked him to consis with a 3-2 DEC in the quarters. Q then beat Rebertus 7-3 in semis.
In the consis, Steinhaus rolled to third. Rebertus finished 6th.
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Simaz up, trying to best Ruth &/or DT for Outstanding Wrestler
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Casey Cunningham on the mic with Sanderson now
1st Q: standard tripe
2nd Q: Byers asking about the champs, Tank particularly to start. CC: ‘the kid is pretty dangerous, has great hips, stay patient and aggressive, took away the funk.’ ‘Thought tank did a great job.’
3rd, D. Alton: CC: ‘he was in on some great positions, wasn’t able to convert. Really starting to understand the training, the discipline.’ ’We’d like to get that guy (Dake), I know Dylan’s not happy, but I’m glad to see where he is right now.’
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On Taylor
CC: ‘yeah, he went out there with the right attitude, to make his point that he’s the guy who’s gonna dominate. THe look in his eye, I knew it was gonna be a rough go for the Minny kid.’
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on 174
BYers: ‘if it wasn’t for Ruth, we’d be talking bout Brown as a title contender.’
CC: ‘worked on points, worked on positioning, could not be happier with Matt Brown. He beat a couple great kids on the way to the final.’ ‘We had a lot of coaches here asking about him. THey know him now.’
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On Q
CC: ‘yeah, I’m happy for Quentin. He had a couple rough matches early, but we saw some glimpses of the champ recently. His speed is gonna come around’
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On others
Gingrich: Byers just wants more experience for him. CC: yeah, I don’t know if at the beginning of the season we would have thought he’d be at this point now. Setups are a little better, his finishes are better.
CC: Vollrath had a good tourney too. He’s good at what he does.’
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On the TRFR
CC: our schedule is not easy for anybody, let alone true frosh. But those guys, they’re good. I don’t know yet if they know how good they are, but every match they get under their belts, they’re gonna get better. Can’t wait to get those two back on the mat again.’
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On the travel, schedule
CC: we’re very careful to watch for fatigue, pay close attention to how the guys are responding to the practices. If we need to make some adjustments, we’re not afraid of that. We just want these guys back to where they can go 100% in practice, and our eye is on March.
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Taylor won the OW
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Byers tryin to get Taylor on the mic
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Taylor on the mic
I think we just wrestled really good all-around.
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Taylor on teammates
Byers: how much are you helping/talking to young guys?
Taylor: yeah, this is a big tournament, this is kinda something similar to the big stuff, the top guys, top 4 are pretty good. All you can do is get those guys to not wanna wrestle you again. ‘Man, I don’t wanna wrestle Nico.’
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Byers
How important was this to start the new year?
DT: yeah, I mean we dropped that early dual to Minny, but our tournament team is extremely tough. In a dual, we can only score so many bonus points, but in a tournament, we can build it up. Before this we thought we might be good, but now we need to build on this. (cites dual schedule…) I think this is good preparation.
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How important is it to have a nice run before the Hawkeyes come to town
DT: it’s a big match, I’m really looking fwd to that match. I don’t want it to end like it did last year, but we are looking forward to it. We just need to prepare like it’s a national tournament.
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It's fun reading other recaps for stuff you missed
Check out these summaries:
Penn State posted a superb 56-23 overall mark among its 15 wrestlers, collecting 18 pins, nine tech falls and 11 majors along the way. 38 of Penn State’s 56 wins were of the bonus point variety.
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