Post-Apocalyptic Venting Thread
by Chris Grovich on Jan 2, 2012 4:04 PM EST
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Well, THAT was fun. Now what? A thread for your continued insight on the TicketCity Bowl, other action around the country, and the vague and limitless places Penn State's football program will see next.
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There are only 2 things in this world
Death and B1G bowl losses.
Yes!
I think the plates on the bus are from Michigan.
by bbpennstate10 on Jan 2, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Overland Park, specifically.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Is that for the PSU game or the B1G in general today?
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 2, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
One sentence paragraphs
Rob Bolden played the single worst game I’ve ever seen from a Penn State quarterback.
Our defense played ok, considering the almost complete lack of help from the offense.
Houston didn’t really outplay us that badly past the first quarter.
Northwestern is quite possibly a better football team than Houston.
We beat Northwestern because we actually had a passing game.
I no longer enjoy the game of football.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Will take exception to only your last point, RR.
Hope springs eternal, altho the HC announcement may land me alongside you.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
No...
I completely agree with his last point.
by eternalpessimist on Jan 2, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Your choice, EP.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Not really a choice...
I used to breathe Penn State football 24/7 365 days a year. Nowadays I couldn’t give a ****.
by eternalpessimist on Jan 2, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Understand.
I’m pretty gung-ho about Lion football, as well, but I’m hanging in there for the sake of the team and coaches. Not suggesting you aren’t — just explaining why I’ve not given up just yet.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Well there is still a small ember inside me...
Unfortunately though I have a strong feeling that it will be doused when they announce the new coach. Anyone other than a Penn Stater will pretty much kill it for me, Bradley/LJSR/Munchak/Golden/hell even Schiano, I just need someone who gets what Penn State is all about. The BOT on the other hand don’t seem to give a damn about what makes us Penn State.
by eternalpessimist on Jan 2, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Much as I love dear old State,
I am cautious about selecting a mythical “Penn State man”. We saw how that worked for Michigan.
I think I still lean towards Scrap, but with the understanding he needs to find a fulll set of OUTSTANDING offensive coaches. He knows defense really well, but shouldn’t pretend he can handle the offense.
And the BoT is not us, as we have found out. The good news is, they are replaceable, as they will discover when the ballots are tallied.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
I understand your point on "Mythical Penn State man"...
My opinion won’t change though, I need someone who will carry on for Joe and I don’t see an outsider doing that. I’ll take 9-3 and 8-4 from a Stater, from anyone else I’d go defecate on their front porch, hell I’d probably do that if they won the NC. At this point in the situation, I see no option, but to “Rally round the family, with a pocket full of shells.”
by eternalpessimist on Jan 2, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think it has to be a Penn Stater
As long as they buy into “Success with Honor” and do it the Penn State way.
Yes, this is my stance, too.
For instance, I don’t hate all Air Force people just because a couple of their flight crews overshot the drop zone and made me land in the trees while parachuting. I bet some of the zoomies are not completely FUBAR’d . . .
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Hmm, sentence structure
It’s not clear from your post if the Air Force flight crew made you land in the trees while they were parachuting, after you overshot their drop zone, or vice-versa. Knowing what I do about the Air Force, anything’s possible. Marines prefer to be patient and wait for the airplane to actually land, then simply walk down the ramp….after killing everything on the ground within 20 miles with our own air wing.
In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them
speaking as an earth-bound zoomie...
(medical field)
i can vouch that not all of us are, indeed, FUBAR’d. flight crews though…those guys are jerks.
i come here for the discussions....but i stay for the simpsons references...
Yes
As long as it’s not a RichRod type hire who blows everything up, a coach can buy into the mystique. Joe wasn’t a Penn Stater, but he created the idea of a ‘Penn Stater.’
It HAS to be the right guy though…
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
I think it does
I’d be up till midnight articulating (blabbering aimlessly) on why I think so, but it has less to do with the football program than it does with every other aspect of the university.
In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them
Your comment about Michigan is confusing.
Rich Rod was not a “Michigan Man,” which helped contribute to his problems. Brady Hoke is a “Michigan Man” and seems to be doing pretty well so far. 10-2 and a BCS berth.
What did it get michigan?
I’m pretty sure Hoke has been considered a success, especially when viewed against the background of the “non-michigan man” DickRod
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 2, 2012 7:42 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think with just a mediocre passing game, we could have won
Our wide receivers also had plenty of derps
I knew this was coming
Houston didn’t really outplay us that badly past the first quarter.
Kind of like the “if it wasn’t for the 2nd quarter” stuff after the Rose Bowl. Houston came out and kicked our ass. It was what it was.
No biggie. I’m not too upset. Thank you to Tom Bradley and the rest of the staff for your service to Penn State, and your handling of an impossible situation.
by speedomike on Jan 2, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it is like the Rose Bowl stuff. What’s the problem with that? I want to make myself feel better because of all the dogcrap that’s happened in the last two months and it’s a fact that Penn State played much better after the first quarter, so there you go.
Houston didn’t kick our ass. We self-destructed. Two blown coverages and Rob Bolden.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Agree on all counts...
Bolden is a waste of a scholarship and whoever recruited him should be fired. That will likely happen soon with a new HC coming in.
The D-line didn’t have much impact in this game, which was disappointing.
The overall crappiness of the entire Big Ten conference gave us all a false sense of this team’s talent level.
My wish for 2012 is that Penn State announces it is joining the ACC, with somebody decent as head ball coach. Bring me Steve Spurrier, that man can coach football.
Good luck to our defensive coaching staff in finding gainful employment. They deserve it, this game not withstanding.
Good riddance to our offensive coaches.
It is a low point for Penn State football, but we shall return. It might be a while, but we’ll be back.
Recruiting and talent need to be upgraded significantly. When you are slower and less physical than a CUSA team that throws 70 times a game, there are serious issues.
Our lines on both sides were a liability today.
Derek Moye went out with a whimper.
Without Justin Brown, that’s a 30-0 game.
Can we jump in the DeLorean and travel back to 1994? I miss Kerry, Ki-Jana, Kyle, Bobby, a line that could block, and offensive coaches with a clue....
by PSU Sandman on Jan 2, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I seriously want to flag this post.
Just for implying Spurrier should come coach at Penn State.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I want to flag it
just for implying that Spurrier is more than a slightly-below-mediocre coach.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Top 5 in the country....
The HBC is among the top 5 college coaches right now, and top 2 or 3 in the past 20 years. He built Florida from nothing into the team that dominated the SEC throughout the 90’s, and then more impressively has taken a team that never won anything and turned them into a recruiting power and currently the third best team in the best conference in the country.
Unfortunately it’s cold in Pennsylvania and he would not come to PSU, but I would hire him in a heartbeat over ANY of the slop that has been mentioned on this site in connection with our head coaching position.
Additionally, he’s beaten Urbie and owns Saban. Look it up. More than any B10 coach can say.
Can we jump in the DeLorean and travel back to 1994? I miss Kerry, Ki-Jana, Kyle, Bobby, a line that could block, and offensive coaches with a clue....
Sandman...
no.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
Spurrier is a damn good coach, you can day what you want but he wins, and is always worth the pride of admission
I’m a USC season ticket holder, who happens to be a life long penn state fan so I think I can validate that spurrier is pretty damn good without coming across as having a homer boner. But he would NEVER come to Penn State because as long as he is the head coach at USC he has playing privledged at Augusta National, and while the blue & white courses are very nice, they just don’t match up well.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 2, 2012 7:50 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Damn cell phone swype!
Meant to type “say what you want, he is a damn good coach”
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 2, 2012 7:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
How about Rob Ryan?
Just saying!
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 2, 2012 8:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
spurrier did not build Florida from nothing...
Galen hall actually did that job.
Spurrier wears a visor…only douches wear visors…thus, spiffier is a douche.
And his nickname is totally doucherific.
by rodney20 on Jan 2, 2012 9:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Spurrier isn't the kind of guy we need
My lasting memories of Spurrier are how he utterly failed to prepare his team to play Nebraska for the national title in, I believe it was, 1996. And I lived in DC when he coached the Redskins. He was unbelievably ill prepared for that job. He didn’t know the names of most of the defense and just picked ex-Florida guys for his offense whether they were any good or not. And then he left Todd Graham-style.
I know a guy who played for him at Duke who says he was always relaxed and loose no matter the circumstances.
Maybe he’s changed or maybe that somehow works in South Carolina, but it wouldn’t work here. Not for long, anyway.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 3, 2012 9:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That just begs the question
And it’s not really clear how well it’s “working.”
Spurrier is obviously doing a much better job than Lou Holtz or any of the guys before that in memory, but if the new Penn State coach has the kind of record Spurrier had had over the last 7 years, he’ll be fired. because it won’t be an improvement over what we’ve had the last few years. Yes, USC has won some big games and a division title, but in that time they’ve won two bowl games and lost at least five games every year. He is 29-27 in the SEC. Yes, the SEC is generally harder than the Big Ten, but the quality of recruits is generally a lot better down there too.
So it’s not clear if he’s like Glen Mason, and is simply getting the most out of talent that just doesn’t match up with the more established powers in their league, or more like Charlie Weis, who recruited well but underachieved with the talent he had. The Carolina’s are loaded with talent. SC should be able to recruit a lot of it. So I’m inclined to think Spurrier is not as good as it gets for them. South Carolina could do better and probably will do better some time in the future.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 4, 2012 12:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Moye
I have never understood the fascination that everybody has with this guy. I never saw any of the potential that everyone claims to have seen from him and the only “big plays” that he’s involved are usually either a drop or another sort of derp. See you later dude, try to stay sober and avoid the stairs at G-Man.
Run.
by Bob Sacamano on Jan 2, 2012 8:42 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I definitely think his Senior year was a step back.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Thats a nice way of putting it.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
Worst. Quarterback. Ever (Turnover MACHINE)
I will no longer watch this crap purporting to be Penn State football.
Bolden could f*** up a wet dream. Pretty sad when the wildcat “QBs” throw better than you do.
And in terms of hiring a new head coach, you have got to be kidding me. You will not be filling the Beaver anytime soon, let alone qualifying for another bowl game, with what has been “seriously” proposed so far.
Cannot wait to see JayPa get the gate. Bradley is a nice guy, but obviously is clueless as a head coach. Lose LJ as a recruiter, and this program will be lucky to break .500.
by istolejoesglasses on Jan 2, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
And a new dawn starts now
Lookin’ forward too it
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
Can't wait to learn the new coach's identity...
Considering the way the last 2 months have gone, it’ll be nice to see who the BOT anoints to help guide Penn State into the gutter for the next several years, maybe have him start out his press conference by apologizing for Penn State existing?
by eternalpessimist on Jan 2, 2012 4:10 PM EST reply actions
BoT
Can’t figure out why Vince Lombardi is not returning their calls
Beat the Hell out of Somebody!!
I had to go to a local bar / cafe to watch the game
and missed the BSD open threads. Just as well, I guess.
Thank you to the seniors and the coaches for persevering through the last two months.
Thank you to the BSD fans who commiserated with me through all of this.
FU to Jerry Sandusky and the media.
Mercifully, this season is over.
Jeez, they just showed Oregon's helmets for the Rose Bowl.
You could blind an opponent with them. They look like they’re chromed.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
Houstons Offensive Coordinator is
the coolest looking guy Ive ever seen
"My kitchen is a mess y'all" Paula Deen
He looks like a chain smoking French womanizer who is constantly staring at a travel brochure and saying, with a haughty voice, "I do not understand this English map."
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
The coaches and players have been through hell...
This game was what it was. I would have liked for them to have come out fired up and ready to play, but they didn’t and I can’t fault them too much with everything that has been going on. Despite the unsatisfatory finish, I will never forget this team and will always feel bad about what they’ve had to go through. Best of luck to all the seniors and players who choose to go elsewhere. Mr. Bradley, I hope you’re able to stick around, but if not, thank you for the classy way you’ve dealt with everyhthing. Looking forward to moving on to a new season and much happier times.
by James on Jan 2, 2012 4:13 PM EST reply actions 9 recs
Add tyo the coaches and players
The fans!
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Tell him his quarterback is a soccer player.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Do you outrank?
Lock his/her heels and make him/her sing the SpongeBob SquarePants verse about “Now, drop on the deck and flop like a fish.” in honor of Keenum.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Work harder to ensure you eventually outrank him.
Thanks for your service.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Hard work rarely impacts promotions in my experience.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Jan 2, 2012 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Of course.
But by “hard work”, I could be including such things as “boot-licking”
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I once heard an E-7 jump all over a 1st Lt.
I said, “John, how did you get away with that?!?!” He said, "You can say anything you need to say to an officer, as long as you use “Sir/Ma’am” somewhere in your ass-chewing."
GREAT life lesson!
I second RR’s salute to your service.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
True statement. I was taught long ago a good SNCO never lets a LT tell them what to do...
…they’re just kids, ya know. Smart kids, but kids nonetheless.
And if the LT is truly smart
he will listen to what the NCO is telling him.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
And it sounds like you have served, T5, so
a tip of the Beret to you as well!!!!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Stay as safe as you can.
Peace through fire superiority!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Take whatever he/she hands out, with a smile on your face.
Show them heart, and help them understand that whatever happened on the field today by no means will prevent you from wiping the field with them should they get froggy…but at the end of the day, this was just a game, a game with absolutely no consequences. So what, we lost to Houston. Take your lumps, they were a better team today. And paybacks are a bitch….Looking forward to a new HC and next yr!
Can I just say this?
Here is my reaction to the injury which earned Keenum a redshirt:
bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Pansy.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Really dude? Get over it.
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Jan 2, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
He's a pansy.
Even if Penn State hadn’t even played this game, I would mock him for being a pansy.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
And he probably did more in today's game than you've done in a long time.
Lots of people get hurt playing college football. I’m sorry if it didn’t live up to your status of what constitutes a “reasonable” injury. You’re pissed we lost, I get it. We lost. Get over it.
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Jan 2, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing Case Keenum proved today was that he’s a good quarterback who acts like the starting quarterback for a group of classless players.
You’re actually right about my mocking his injury. Frankly, I wasn’t thinking straight, but I don’t think I was mocking his injury as much as I was mocking his general appearance as a football player. He plays a game which I don’t appreciate, for it involves soccer-style “diving”, attempts to run up the score, and over-the-top celebrations.
I apologize, but I ask for patience because I don’t like losing to teams that are inferior and especially so when those teams make me look gracious with their antics.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
I will give you this
The only thing Case Keenum proved today was that he’s a good quarterback
With that statement, I agree.
When’s the last time ANY QB has thrown for 500+ yards against PSU. We got beat today. What the rest of the players on his team do is out of his control. He has been a good QB for the last 3+ years. And you might say he did it against inferior defenses or teams. But there are a lot of bad teams in bad conferences out there, and none of them did what UH or Keenum did this year.
As I said before, we were beaten today fair and square. Keenum played a good game, and his OC planned the perfect game for him. Give the man his due move on.
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Jan 2, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
When’s the last time ANY QB has thrown for 500+ yards against PSU.
I don’t know and I don’t care. I know that Detmer, Brees, and Flutie all threw for tons of yardage and I know that they all lost because Penn State actually had an offense in those games.
Perhaps I’d be more willing to give Houston “their due” if they hadn’t acted like classless punks throughout the 4th quarter.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
They won regardless, and it wasn't close
How they celebrate should not matter. They won, we lost. Get over it. Is a good team “worse” because they celebrate a lot? If you were a nobody team and beat a historically dominant school like PSU, would you not be happy?
Althought beating UH would not have been a big deal for PSU, it’s not the same the other way around. Today was a big deal for UH. Give them some slack…they played a great game against a very good defense. Can you blame them for being excited?
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Jan 2, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
+1 True Story, HnB...
Their kids won…good for them, if I was on a team that beat Penn State, I’d be elated as well…
There is nothing wrong with being excited.
There is something wrong – deeply wrong – with taunting your opponent and actively trying to humiliate him.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
When you never won anything...
I guess thats how you they do it .
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
Given what is going on
Who gives a fuck?
We need a good HC, gainful employment for the current staff somewhere they can succeed, health for Joe.
And burning in hell for JS
Joe Paterno Apologist®
by letsgopsu on Jan 2, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Over/Under 2
Number of non-conference victories next season.
4
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 2, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Navy and Temple aren't going to be cupcakes
Virginia is on the road and they are getting better.
by bbpennstate10 on Jan 2, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Temple will be a win, considering the OL losses
UVA is still UVA. Their fans think they were pretty bad this year, and their QB situation. Same feel.
Navy- Not a cupcake, but shouldn’t be too close.
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 2, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
My impression of Dallas hasn't changed much
Annoying football teams with annoying players, water that tastes bad, and people running around in weird costumes.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Is your name a reference to first year of law school?
If so, you need to adjust your tolerance for hell.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
An operative from ShaggyBevo.
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
Black Shoe Diaries
@runthedive
this is perfect example of why...
…I no longer attend live sporting events.
I’ll assume Westboro Church wacko was in suit until I hear differently.
Are the names of the people who did this known?
Because we can submit an open letter to the University of Texas with their names and how it violates their code of conduct: “respect toward peers and community.”
That first quarter was absolutely awful
The rest of the game was bad, but not off-the-charts bad.
And now, we plunge into the unknown.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jan 2, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions
But we stand with each other,
for the most part, NENL, and will rely on each other to persevere in the face of adversity.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 2, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Indeed
I remain optimistic. The next year will be the hardest in history for the school and the program, but we have what it takes to get through.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jan 2, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Good point re next year.
But it will pass, and we will continue to put one foot in front of the other until we get through the negative situation. As the GIs at Normandy used to say, “The road home leads through Berlin.” Our road to redemption may lead through Hell, but we will trudge along.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
"If you're going through Hell,
…keep going"- Winston Churchill
"I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
-Eric "Otter" Stratton (Tim Matheson), Animal House, Universal Pictures (1978).
by PSUPhD90 on Jan 2, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know there are much bigger things out there to worry about
But I really hope that we don’t have to endure another 2/3 season long QB competition next year.
What bowl performance was worse?
McGloin’s Outback Bowl or Bolden’s Ticket City Bowl?
C. Even
Ten tons of crap does not smell much worse than five tons . . . .
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
bolden bolden bolden
at least we had a prayer with mcgloin last year
keep winning ugly
by tlrpsu on Jan 2, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Once again
McGloin moved the football and gave our defense time to rest; hence they performed better as compared to what you saw today when Bolden and our offense (who, to be fair to Bolden, didn’t play well either) failed to give the defense nearly as much time to rest.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Would you rather get shot in the right knee, or the left?
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Are they my knees,
or yours?
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
incorrect analogy
McGloin is getting shot in the knee. Bolden is getting shot in face. Twice.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Jan 2, 2012 4:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Actually this is incorrect too
McGloin is like getting shot in the gut. Bolden in the face. Either way your going to day, but the former is long, drawn out, and incredibly painful, with only a slight glimmer of hope you might survive (though you probably wont). With Bolden there is no hope.
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McGloin pulled out the Illinois game.
There’s no way Bolden does anything except make it worse.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
"Would you rather get shot in the right knee, or the left?"
If it’s Bolden pulling the trigger, he’d probably end up shooting you in the face instead.
Run.
Unfortunately, both were exactly the wrong QB for the situation.
That Florida offense was bad. Our defense and a conservative plan beat that team 9 times out of 10 in a low scoring affair. The worst thing for that game was 2010 McGloin.
This year we needed someone with the confidence to take some chances and ability to actually complete some short passes. Instead we got the guy that had our coordinators bring in the reigns.
Leaders Co-Champions
Our next HC has a game in about a week.
Just wait.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Jan 2, 2012 4:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
MSU going to the wire vs UGA
Born in Fort Sanders - 1st Residence Aconda Court (Alumni Hall) - 1st games at Neyland 1947 - Mother = TORCHBEARER - Dad grad of UT & UT Law + professor BORN ORANGE and BLEED ORANGE .......
All I know is......
They could hire Jesus H. Christ for HC, Allah for DC , and the Mosad for Special Teams and I wouldn’t give a good BM right now. I just think that The Lords of the Manor have handled THIS terribly and any “New Team” will not have the blessings of Nittany Nation. This game has left me sapped. As Rodney used to say, “I looked up my family tree and I found out I was the sap.” Sooooo I am not surprised with the outcome today. New suggestion for 2012—-resume some serious drinking…eff the doctors…..and JS, President Lackey tBoT and that Ahole Joyner….Did I get ’em all???
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
Thanks, I forgot TBow.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
In this case.....
I think the 2nd hire after Joe will be the one to succeed.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
Could be
But I’m willing to wait until the final decision to decide whether this has been handled poorly.
MSU goes 85 yards in under 2 mins.
Born in Fort Sanders - 1st Residence Aconda Court (Alumni Hall) - 1st games at Neyland 1947 - Mother = TORCHBEARER - Dad grad of UT & UT Law + professor BORN ORANGE and BLEED ORANGE .......
Whatevs dude. PSU went 85 yards in 3 quarters!
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Jan 2, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget their 2 arm punt strategies.
by bbpennstate10 on Jan 2, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
This is a win-win-win strategy
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Jan 2, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Go Sparty Go!
Can we jump in the DeLorean and travel back to 1994? I miss Kerry, Ki-Jana, Kyle, Bobby, a line that could block, and offensive coaches with a clue....
Everybody bring your Dr. Pepper to my house for the Rose Bowl
We’ll have a real good time.
Mustache is the new D coordinator for the Bills.
My day can’t get any worse!
FTFY.
George Edwards Michael is available.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
I was thinking more of the Boy George one.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Do you mean Wham?
I figured who you meant, but I can’t pass up an arrested development joke.
Yeah, that Wham guy.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Dantonio went for the tie and OT rather than
for the win in regulation. Hmmm.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
I was really wondering what he would do in that situation.
I kinda wanted him to go for 2.
Me, too.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
On the plus side
Schenn just scored his first goal for the Flyers (possibly of his NHL career?).
Maybe I can get some enjoyment out of sports today.
Whelp, that was a group effort
Which is why I’m not a big fan of the “Boldan iz suck” posts all over facebook. He sucked yes. But so the defense right out of the gate. They couldn’t stop who’s offensive plan is roughly a game of madden, long pass after long pass followed by a QB keeper because you want to keep the program honest. Our recievers dropped several very catchable balls and our punter/kicker/kickoffer shanked half his punts and our return teams slaughtered our field position with dumb penalties.
In every single phase of the game we failed and dramatically at that.
So I can’t single out any one player to blame this on, to me, they were all bad at different things, today PSU lost, Bolden didn’t lose, Fera didn’t lose, the secondary didn’t lose, Moye didn’t lose, they ALL lost and all share the blame pretty equally.
I wish it didn’t have to end this way, I wish Bradley would get an actual shot at the job, he’s handled this so well and he knows exactly what success with honor is all about, but this really cements that door shut.
and now we wait
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
by Rogue Nine on Jan 2, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Thank you for the perspective
Yes, Bolden played poorly. But he did not give up 500+ passing yards. Somewhere in the analysis someone has to point the finger at the poor pass coverage.
I think we all know the offense was not good today. But let’s not forget that the passing defense was not stellar today either.
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Jan 2, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
The defense played much better after the 1st quarter
It doesn’t help they were on the field constantly from our offense going 3 and out all the time.
by bbpennstate10 on Jan 2, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
For Truez
Can’t expect a defense to play balls-out when they’re on the field 70% of the game. Your offense has to eat up SOME clock to give the D a chance to rest.
It takes courage to stand up for a man in peril, even if he stood up for you.
by Horse N Buggy on Jan 2, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
The pass coverage wasn't really as bad as it looks.
Yes 500+ passing yards looks bad. But that’s the entire scheme of this defense. It doesn’t matter if they get 800 passing yards, as long as we keep them from scoring. After a bad first quarter, they only gave up 13 points for the rest of the game. 7 of those points were because a safety slipped and blew up coverage.
Yes, you can make the argument that that bad start put us in a hole, and that really hurt us. I’ll agree. But really, this defense wasn’t nearly as bad as people are saying. If The offense could have done ANYTHING and given the D more time to rest, we would have had a chance.
Also, as much as Bolden sucked
What the hell Moye? He was supposed to be the guy to step up and lead this offense this year, and man did he underwhelm me. He had some bad drops, and generally just seemed to be disinterested. He might have played himself out of being drafted.
+1
This. A billion times this.
Run.
by Bob Sacamano on Jan 2, 2012 8:52 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agreed, Bolden did not win it, nor did he lose it for us.
He had a few really nice long passes once he hit his stride, caught the receivers at a full gallop. The same receivers also flubbed a few nice passes and did not help him out. I am by no means a Bolden fan, but as you stated, no one was impressive today. It was a group failure, and congrats to Houston for being the better team today. Now pls, “Search Committee” hire us a good HC and let’s move on…
The only thing I got from this game is...
… Bolden sucks. Sorry. No one can “catch his balls”, except for him.
But but but...
He only threw 3 INTs in a bowl game. Doesn’t that clearly make him better than McGloin?
by lion in winter on Jan 2, 2012 5:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
She dropped him because he kept
underperforming, if you know what I mean.
Her: “I though you were a 4-star stud!”
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Response fail.
Should have been a reply to psu2007.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
I root for the team, and while
I may pick on certain aspects, and even certain players, at times, today’s loss was attributable to just about every facet of the game. And, I blame the fatigue of the whole scandal thing — just ran our guys through the meat grinder over and over and over.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Forget about the search committee for a new head coach
Hire a committee to find us a quarterback.
by bbpennstate10 on Jan 2, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I was always on Team Bolden...
but this game made me realize, that although both Bolden and McGloin stink, and although McGloin can lose you a game as easily as he can help you win one, Bolden can’t even win you a game.
I really can’t wait for this program’s future to start, sooner, rather than later i hope.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
I'm not that upset
It was my gut feeling we’d have this type of game, given the way our offense performs under Bolden. I was … SPARTY YES!!!!!!!!
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
Bolden is the worst QB I have ever seen
With him you know there is zero chance of winning. I really wanted to see McGregor come out at some point, it would have been a glimmer of hope.
The closest anyone got...
to coming up with someone worse than Bolden was Matt Seneca. And Seneca would have got some snaps today. Also, he literally gave up football.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Glad I skipped this game
I figured Houston was going to win based on the ability to move the ball and PSU’s anemic offense. And once McGloin went down for the count, there was zero hope. Bolden’s stat line is one of the most atrocious I’ve ever seen from a QB playing on a respectable team: 7-26, 137, 1-3. Yeah, I’m sure I missed a few drops, but probably not 10 drops.
My take.
This team just mailed this one in. You can tell they didn’t want to be there. Maybe they should have just declined the invite after all.
Not one phase of the game played well (or even mediocre).
Offense was spectacularly bad. Bolden is not a D1 QB (and I started the year TeamBolden). Our run game was an embarrassment. 160 or so yards? Rice ran for almost 400 yards against them!
Defense was the usual bend and sometimes break we’ve come to love.
Special teams was horrible. Fera had his worst day not mango-related. Three penalties on kick returns?!
Dropped passes. Blown coverages.
Even the coaches clearly didn’t care. I can’t believe we finished the game holding 2 timeouts. I’ve never seen a team down only 2 scores basically let the last 3 minutes of a game run out. Maybe Joe wasn’t the problem after all with our historically lousy clock mgmt.
I can handle losing to a superior team but the effort the whole team gave today is more than disappointing.
Rant over. Offseason Begin.
Never looked this forward to offseason
May no act.................
by SweepTheLeg on Jan 2, 2012 6:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Can I just say that Wisconsin's defense sucks ass?
Just as much as I supposed before our game? Problem is our offense – as proven in two straight games – is significantly worse than I imagined possible.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
You can
Also let’s enjoy how great Oregon’s offense is.
Uh... They played two teams with a pulse.
OSU exposed Oregon’s O for what it is – a more talented, slightly more gimmicky version of Georgia Tech’s.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Meh.
I chalk that up to a bad game by LSU. WVU nearly scored the same, and frankly, there are no offensive juggernauts in the SEC to compare to. Fact is, OSU was able to shut them down, as are most teams, most of the time, when they have time to prepare and a staff worth a shit.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Over the past 3 seasons
They’ve only had 4 games where they scored less than 20 points (and only 1 in single digits). They’ve also broken 50 points 11 times in that span. I don’t care who they’re playing, that’s a pretty good offense.
eh.
They’re playing the same schedule as the team we played today, in large part, and they’re scoring about the same. That team was especially set up to take advantage of our weaknesses and still only managed 13 points after an initial onslaught – 7 of which came from a guy on our team tripping. No, Oregon’s offense isn’t good against a good defense, especially one that has an offense of its own attached to it.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Conference USA and the Pac-10 are the same schedule?
Come on man, that’s a bit of a stretch. I’m not saying their offense is the best ever, but you make it sound like it’s a joke. Also, you say OSU shut them down, they scored 19 in that game. That may be well below their average, but it’s hardly being shut down.
42 points against wisconsin kind of makes your arguement moot
Also if you watch what oregon is doing it is amazing, on most run plays they are melding two different plays into one look out of the gun, in a no huddle offense, which is pretty damn innovative. IMHO.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 2, 2012 8:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
42 points already more than any B1G team scored against them
Still 8:00 to go, and the defense has given up 38 pts so it’s not like they’ve had the ball all game.
I'm just worried
that with all that happened, that will affect recruiting for years and Penn State football for years to come will be no better than Indiana. Thats my biggest fear.
Don't let the wulchers get ya.
All I can say is
Don’t worry so much about things you can’t control. It is what it is. Look what IU went through in basketball. 6-8 years of bad teams and finally looks like they are back to (almost) an elite team.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
But I'm not sure
if I could handle 6-8 years of pathetic Penn State football, it’s just not natural.
Don't let the wulchers get ya.
Would you believe I’m 42. There is a certain standard that I have come to expect from Penn State football, and several years of quite possibly horrible football doesn’t sit well with me or any other self respecting Penn State fan.
Don't let the wulchers get ya.
by uhrsker on Jan 2, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
amen...
I’ve discovered that the older the psu fan, the higher the expectations…I am closer to your age…I think the 2008 and 2009 seasons were acceptable, but not “good” seasons. Talk to the younger fans and they talk like those seasons were great. Since the mid-90’s, we have had exactly one season that I would classify as “good.” That was 2005. Even then, that was not what I would classify as a “great” season. Truth be known, I suppose I’ve just been sitting around waiting for Joepa to retire since about ’99 so psu football could get back to being psu football
by rodney20 on Jan 2, 2012 11:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, we are.
He should have been named head coach weeks ago.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
by LB31Monster on Jan 2, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
If you still think that
you’re part of the problem.
dude
No need to try to provoke others.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
I've had enough
of the old fossils and inane clowns around here trying to hold on to the legacy of the Paterno personality cult.
Let’s clean house and start winning. Today (and in fact the catastrophe of the last several weeks of players insulting UH and brawling while “Scrap” was at dinner with friends) is evidence of absolute chaos. Jettison the garbage – and all the foolish fans as well.
by hatch on Jan 2, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, those of us that graduated in the 21st century are such old fossils.
FYI- Bradley was at dinner when the press called him 4 hours after the incident. Not during. But those are just details and get in the way of your weird vendetta.
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Being disrespectful to differing opinions...
Is a Bittner move.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
by LB31Monster on Jan 2, 2012 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I didn't see our players jawing with UH
It was UH. Typical of so many players these days.
The basic problem with college football and basketball is that it’s all about recruiting and that has led most programs to just give the players what they want – like godawful ugly uniforms, stickers commemorating individual achievement, easy classes, and lax discipline. It’s the inmates running the asylum. Schools fire coaches after two years so they have no authority over their star players. Gone are the days when most great players would respect an old guy or chose to play for a hard taskmaster. They don’t want that. They want chrome helmets. I fear “the Penn State way” is not a route to a championship anymore, but I will not support this football program if it goes the way of so many others and puts wins over honor and class. I don’t like football enough for that.
The fans who support Bradley do so because he’s a great recruiter, a good coach, and a good guy. It’s got nothing at all to do with Paterno.
Aside from their inability to play the position well, our quarterbacks failed to provide the necessary leadership this team needed. Still and Stupar, etc, seemed to lead the defense but it didn’t seem to carry over to offense. McGloin obviously didn’t “have the room,” so to speak, and obviously Bolden doesn’t believe in himself so the offense wouldn’t either. Moye didnt step up either. We need a guy like Tony Hunt or MRob that will lead the team and keep guys focused.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 2, 2012 8:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
Your screenname is getting sloppy with its pronouns
Revealing your trollee nature.
If you’re really a bammer fan, RBR runs a perfectly excellent blog. Do us a favor and spin your whatever elsewhere please. You haven’t brought anything of value to this living room.
jtothetweet
Make sure this dead horse doesn't move while I go get my beatin' stick.
You have a point…
… but all dicks do.
by PSUinOH on Jan 2, 2012 8:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
When you think about it, the defensive scheme was perfectly effective but for two players.
It gave up tons of short-intermediate plays and limited scoring. Or at least it would have but-for Willis getting beat one on one 65 times in the first quarter and Astorino literally falling on his face.
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And the obvious problem in this game.
Which is that it was lost by the offense and not the defense.
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Apparently
you were all mad, bros.
I bet you’ll be angrier when we get a new coach. Probably less when you reap the benefits (not that you’ll actually be able to figure out the causal link between this staff’s dismissal and future successes).
Troll (Hatch)...
Go back under your bridge. This is a forum where adults exchange ideas and opinions and generally are respectful toward one another. Please do not try to ruin what is a rarity when it comes to blogs. BSD is better than most because of this.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
Awww
so sad.
Unfortunately, my arguments are supported by on-field performance rather than sentimentality. My view is that anybody that’s loyal to these current coaches is harming this football program. I’m tired of your willful blindness to the lousy defensive scheme that’s been exploited several times (‘06 Notre Dame, ’08 USC, yesterday). I’m tired of your crap about “being loyal to the Penn State ideals” – as though only somebody who’s been on the staff 35 years will keep PSU from becoming a corrupt program. I’m tired of the idolization of Joe Paterno, a man whose ego forced him to continue coaching even though he knew Sandusky had been arrested – a man whose desire to cling to old and faded glories overrode what should have been legitimate concern about what would happen to the program when those bad memories he had suppressed came to the fore.
Joe Paterno and Penn State’s administration made this mess – both in the scandal and in permitting the program to undergo a general decline (by Paterno surrounding himself with sycophantic incompetents over the last 20 years, including his own unqualified son).
Most neutral observers would agree with this. Most of you in here wouldn’t. You’re too blinded by your love for a once-great program and a once-great man. It hurts to admit all these things. But they’re true. Hiring Bradley is just an attempt to keep on keeping on. We are better than that. We are Penn State. And we are bigger than one ancient man’s personality cult and better than the coaching job that I saw yesterday.
I’m looking forward to the new regime.
by hatch on Jan 3, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And we are looking forward...
to you getting banned. Seriously… there has to be a 3 knockdown rule for this guy?
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
Banning me
because you disagree. Can’t take the heat? Don’t like dissent?
This is America. Grow some cajones and debate my ideas. Or hide in your closet and shut your eyes and maybe me and the rest of the folks that think like I do will magically vanish. Or better yet you can timetravel back to the 70s and relive the ancient glory days.
Ban me. I don’t care. It simply proves my point. Your views are not grounded in logic, just emotion and sorrow. Time to put on some big boy pants and act like an adult rather than “oMg, He ToTaLLy SaiD suMtHin I h8…BAN HIM!”
Commie fascist…
by hatch on Jan 3, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think the board needs the benefit of the doubt
The only outside guy that we know they’ve talked to is Clements and he is a strong QB guy. That shows that they are at least paying attention and see where the most pressing need is right now.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 2, 2012 6:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Greg Roman
“confirmed” as a finalist. By his agent, whatever that’s worth.
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Name Skyler Mohrninweg the starter tomorrow....
cause he can’t be worse than the other options currently on the roster.
Can we jump in the DeLorean and travel back to 1994? I miss Kerry, Ki-Jana, Kyle, Bobby, a line that could block, and offensive coaches with a clue....
If he believes that now
Maybe he will change positions. He’s still a very good athlete
Beat the Hell out of Somebody!!
I swear
That kid never sees or feels the defensive pressure. He got clocked on the play right before he hit Brown for the long TD. I like the kid, but he just doesn’t have the pocket awareness that better QB’s have.
However, I do think our offensive schemes don’t help our QB’s. Pass plays seem to take too long to develop.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
I imagine I am not the only one.
But I can’t help but feel bad for Bolden. The kid had potential, but he has been destroyed mentally. It reminds me of those occasions in which a pitcher just suddenly can’t throw the ball over the plate or a golfer with the yips.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 2, 2012 6:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He can blame himself for a lot of that destruction
i.e. the whole transferring mess
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 2, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
How do you figure?
He’s a young kid, thought he got a raw deal (he did), his dad felt the same way and they wanted to move on. Doesn’t mean we have to take it personally. I’m sure he put that behind him. Seems to me the obvious pressure on him is coming from his own family.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 2, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
SO many ways..
they could have handled that. And he was given every opportunity to be “the guy” this year. Beyond his mediocre position coach (and that’s putting it lightly) I’m done making excuses for him.
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 2, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
It's not making excuses for him to acknowledge that,
at the time of the discussion; (1) he did get a raw deal; and (2) his dad probably should not have been contacting the media about it until they talked to Joe. Has nothing to do with this year. He was clearly a basket case on the field all year. I don’t think you can attribute that to exploring a transfer the previous January. Seems clear to me that something is going on upstairs with the kid. And he is that, a kid.
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they didn't do
him any favors starting him last year. But he just never got any better.
We Are!!!!!!
I knew it was going to be a long day when...
we had 3rd and 1 on our first possession and Bolden threw it over the receivers head by about 8 feet. I’m pretty sure anybody on this thread could have thrown it better.
As far as awareness in the pocket, Bolden has 0. When our wildcat qb is moving the ball better than him, you know your in trouble.
Find a coach that can recruit but also coach a qb.
I just want a coach
As pertains to the program right now, what else really matters at this point?
Here's the thread on a Longhorn message board with the people responsible for the Pedobear stunt
The last few pages of comments is the new stuff. Classy folks over there. Even came equipped with a sign with a PSU logo that said “Keep Quiet and Don’t Tell Anyone”. Naturally the Cotton Bowl put him on the Jumbotron. (http://deadspin.com/5872516/pedobear-showed-up-at-the-houston+penn-state-game-today). Unbelievable.
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Jan 2, 2012 7:04 PM EST reply actions
It's Texas, don't expect many smart things from Texas
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 2, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm glad...
that making light of alleged child rape is funny to people in Texas.
Seriously, its pretty heart-warming coming from a state with such a straight moral compass.
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 2, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
"easily offended Penn State fans"
Yeah, we want to be associated with child rape. Deadspin is ass.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 2, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
DS sucks..
Magery writes one, maybe two decent articles a year. The rest of it is all fart jokes and mailed in stories from frat boys.
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 2, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Deadspin does blow
They had a great post yesterday about how the Texans’ failed 2-pt conversion blew their playoff chances. Except, of course, they clinched 3 weeks ago.
Artie's Thoughts....
1. initial reaction “Kick my ass. I’m not asking, I’m telling”. Yeah, pretty much
2. A Conference USA defense was in PSU’s backfield all day. CUSA PEOPLE! Somebody on Twitter pointed out that Houston is actually going to the BEast. THAT ACTUALLY MAKES IT WORSE.
3. Regarding point #2, if Bradley is retained, he has to clean out the offensive staff. Every aspect of it was terrible from QB play, to blocking, to catching. I’ll give Green and Redd a pass because they were getting hit in the backfield everytime they touched the ball.
4. The time has come to recruit better DB’s and run better defensive schemes. Also, where the hell was our great DL? Keenum’s jersey was clean all day.
Props to Houston. They earned the win.
I don't think Bradley has to clean the offensive house
I think it’s cleaned for him. Those guys are all gone anyway; Hall and Anderson were clearly just staying on for Joe, Jay similarly. That leaves who, Kenney?
That said, I think there’s no way Bradley is being kept on anyway.
I agree.
I like Bradley. And I think that, if given free reign, he could do something special at PSU. Its probably not gonna happen.
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 2, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Same
People go apeshit when our defense actually gives up a few TDs because we’re so used to 14 points being enough to win, but the consistent defensive excellence is not something other fanbases would take for granted. I’d love to see the Bradley-Vandy-LJ combo with a productive offensive staff. But it’s not happening.
Hard to blame the DL when Houston could play in the gun and a two seconds after he caught the snap it was out of his hands.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
I have a few points
1) I was solid team Bolden at the beginnign of the year but he has obviously regressed. He cant see pressure that is right in front of him let alone someone coming from the backside. So for me #TeamMorhinweg
2) Case Keenum while he is a great QB is the biggest puss I’ve ever seen. I hope NFL scouts ask him why he won’t take a hit from someone.
3) The defense wasn’t ready to play at all. We all knew what kind of offense they were: dink and dunk passes to open up the long ones.
4) I love Bradley but he didn’t have the team ready to play like they should have been. We all know they deserved a better bowl but you still need to show up wherever you play.
5) Im not looking forward to another year tainted by Jerry Sandusky with the trial presumably starting right before the football season.
Compassion?????
With everything WE HAVE FELT imagine what the remaining coaches and players have endured.
I am not going to blast one single player or coach. I think we should praise this team . Ask yourselves how you would have handled all the adversity that this team has endured! What happened to the compassion we all demanded from others?
by psu-lioness on Jan 2, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't think Bolden has regressed
He was never accurate, and he could never feel pressure. Problem is he has never improved, despite being given more rope to hang himself with than any QB in PSU history.
Black shoes, basic blues, no names, all game.
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by View from the Booth on Jan 2, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
The expectations differences between Morelli, Clark, McGloin, and Bolden have distorted the way people remember their actual performances. Morelli wasn’t the five-star savior he was hailed as out of college, but he was a shitton better than McG or Bolden.
the only time we have had a good QB
is when he has developed himself (Robinson, Clark). JayPa will have trouble finding a job at any level because he isn’t a good coach.
I don't think that's fair
How do you know Robinson/Clark “developed themselves” and that Morelli/Bolden didn’t “undevelop themselves”?
Exacty
Bolden and Morelli were the only guys who came in with lots of hype.
Newsome was always regarded as “raw.” Jones just needs to do better in school.
Mills was barely recruited and yet did fairly well until after he injured his shoulder. Thompson and McGloin were never great talents. He at least got something out of them.
He made the most out of Clark and Robinson despite a less than great OL. And he had success with QBs at JMU and UVa way back when.
So it’s really just too small of a sample size to generalize, but he seems to be better at developing schemes like he did with Robinson and Clark than coaching QBs.
I’m wondering, if Ganter retires, would Jay want that job as director of football ops? He clearly knows lots of people around football and loves PSU. He’d be good in that kind of job. Less stress. Less travel.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 2, 2012 10:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Interesting
I think Jay would do a good job in that position. I think there’s no denying his intelligence and knowledge of the game. I don’t see him coaching again, but Ganter’s job might be a very good fit.
(Though I hate to see Ganter go, but mainly b/c I’ve always liked the guy. I coached the boys’ summer swim team 20 yrs ago and was always impressed with the family.)
I thought Fran was released, like the day after Joe was
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
I completely agree.
I was just reflecting on QBs past that didn’t quite live up to the hype.
My life is violent, but violent is life. Peace is a dream, reality is a knife.
by View from the Booth on Jan 2, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
its really too bad
i truly do feel bad for every kid who comes here with dreams of the NFL because it won’t happen unless they switch positions
Bolden
This kid had two years now to man up and show he’s the guy for the job…and he hasn’t.
And please, team Bolden, don’t whine to me about his "confidence". If his psyche is that delicate he doesn’t belong in big time college ball. I mean Joepa had to challenge this kid to stick it out and fight and work for the chance at the starting job to keep him from transferring. You don’t have to do that with a kid that has the right mental mindset about his goals and abilities to begin with. This ain’t the pros, you don’t have years to let some kid slowly develop into a potential starter. He has to show from the get-go he’s somebody that you can get 1-2 good seasons out of. Cause that’s all you generally get. This kid and his daddy are opportunists, they have no love or loyalty to PSU (and don’t think his teammates don’t know that). He came to PSU cause daddy, who has probably been counting the kid’s NFL signup bonus millions since high school, saw an opportunity for the kid to make a big splash at the college level right from the start. Of course when the kid failed to do his part and play like a 4****, they couldn’t wait to get out of Dodge. Even now he has made no firm commitment to remaining here. Don’t think that sits well with a team full of guys who work hard 3-4 years to maybe be a starter in their senior, or if really good, their junior year. It really shouldn’t be a wonder to anyone why the offense and even the defense, always seemed to step up their games and play harder and better when McGloin would be in. He’s the leader that has the blue and white running in his veins. He’s one of them.
I had hoped Bolden could play well enough to not lose the game. But, he’s as good as he’s ever going to be, and that’s not good enough for this level.
While I’m on QBs, Paul Jones who has had two years to do nothing but get passing grades, has failed to get passing grades. He will flunk out before he ever sees the field on a game day.
tell that to all the posters
here who I have seen refer to themselves as that. Like poster some 10 messages up from this one
Lots of "used to be Team Bolden"
Nobody still is on Team Bolden.
All there is is Team McGloin and Team No But Really McGloin Also Is Terrible.
by elefantstn on Jan 2, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to think that, even if PJ can't make the team
Maybe he gets an education that he wouldn’t have otherwise. Maybe he ends up being another guy whose better off having attending PSU and been a part of PSU football, even without playing.
I’d like to think that’s still a success.
I would like that that too
Of course, you still have to get passing grades.
My understanding is he does have passing grades
I thought he met NCAA standards, but not Joe’s standards. Am I wrong about that?
I think that this season it was about not having enough credits taken on time because of a NCAA rule change.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
From what I understand, that as the issue.
He couldn’t handle too many classes and they miscalculated based on a rule change of applying summer classes. Then Bradley said he thought they would have him “up to” a 2.0 with enough credits for the Bowl Game. Then they announced he didn’t qualify with the NCAA. Which to me sounds like he didn’t hit the 2.0 mark.
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True. I was just referencing this season. Hopefully he can get it turned around in the spring. Sounds like he may have benefited from going the JUCO route.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
How the hell did he graduate High School early
If he is so clearly unprepared for college.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
You tell me.
What kind of high schools are you running that part of the country?
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Depends which one you went too I guess.
My guess is that PJ’s sucked.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Jones' is one of the worst.
Sto-Rox is a joke. The fact that he graduated early from it means nothing to me. They graduated kids every year from that school who should’ve been failed multiple times and deserve no diploma.
He is not NCAA eligible.
He has not attained a 2.0.
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Well then, I hope he can bring that up.
My understanding was that he was close, so hopefully he can do it.
I could be wrong
but I thought I heard he had at least a 2.0 for the semester, but his cumulative GPA was not up to snuf. I don’t know what the rules are for which GPA is used.
I think he is fine NCAA wise
But not by PSU harsher standards.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Speaking of Jones? What is his major? You would think having graduated HS would mean he could pas some gen ed classes.*
(*I realize some public school systems are horrible)
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
And his, from what I understand,
sets the standard for horrible. It is the horrible other horrible schools hope to never sink to.
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That bad? The state of some school systems really is sad.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
From what I've heard, it is the worst in the entire state.
Also, he’s, ironically,enrolled in the college of Education per gopsusports.com
He's a college kid,
and he just confirmed his dedication to our school in a very difficult time to do so. He was tragically awful this year, that doesn’t mean he’ll never get any better. Most importantly (if what he said today is true), he is going to graduate a Penn Stater.
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/Slide Whistle
I never thought I’d say “fuck yes projects that are due tomorrow that can only be started today,” but I didn’t have to watch that… the Yahoo! play-by-play was bad enough.
more male than the post office
My life is violent, but violent is life. Peace is a dream, reality is a knife.
by View from the Booth on Jan 2, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I am going to take a shot.
For every time Musberger refers to Bielema as Bielman.
My life is violent, but violent is life. Peace is a dream, reality is a knife.
by View from the Booth on Jan 2, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions
And a drink for every time he calls DeAnthony Thomas the 'Black Mamba'.
My life is violent, but violent is life. Peace is a dream, reality is a knife.
by View from the Booth on Jan 2, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
RE: Bolden
My uncle has had a few hunting beagles in his time. I remember one pup in particular. My uncle tried to teach it to return to him on command, hunt rabbits, etc. But no matter what, the dog couldn’t/wouldn’t do its job. It kept chasing deer, wouldn’t listen to commands. Eventually, my uncle had to tell his small daughters that the dog “ran away” when they noticed it wasn’t in the backyard anymore.
Bolden is the beagle. He’s finished.
Luring recruits with my new "Posting HD" scheme since '08.
That might really get us the "Death Penalty"!
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Hahaaaaaa
Quite punny.
My life is violent, but violent is life. Peace is a dream, reality is a knife.
by View from the Booth on Jan 2, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Course,
the SEC has been doing that for years with all the oversigning. They just take those kids that can’t get it done and take em out behind the barn!
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
:|
:| face hardcore
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 2, 2012 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Jim Caldwell
Looks like the Colts are cleaning house. Jim Caldwell may soon become available. What do you all think of him as the next HC?
I think he's a terrible coach and I don't want him
Raheem Morris and Steve Spagnuolo are better choices out of fired NFL coaches.
we shouldn't hire anyone from the NFL
who was just fired
Nope/10
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 2, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
I posted the same thing the other day
and got completely flamed. He lost almost everywhere.
But with every sensible choice spurning us, it is not as bad as it seems at first.
IT'S STILL AS FUCKING BAD
A literal ham sandwich is better. At least that would have the virtue of novelty.
more male than the post office
This seems like so long ago.
My life is violent, but violent is life. Peace is a dream, reality is a knife.
by View from the Booth on Jan 2, 2012 7:52 PM EST reply actions
im all for Blount on this one
Boise State guy was definitely being a Dbag
well
Blount was talking crap before the game, saying how they were going to do this and that. That’s what happens when you talk and don’t perform. Was the Boise guy over the line. Maybe. But if Blount didn’t light the match before the game it wouldn’t have happened.
We Are!!!!!!
Well after 40 minutes of trolling, I've finally been banned at shaggybevo
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
Oh wow, looking at the time signatures, it's been longer than that!
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 2, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Are you proud of yourself
We’re proud of you!
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Can I get a link to your work?
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by View from the Booth on Jan 2, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm making a fanpost about it. It'll be in there
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 2, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not surprised it took them that long
They are definitely a dimwitted bunch of cows
Beat the Hell out of Somebody!!
BOLDEN ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!
He’s coming back, baby.
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New coach isn't going to revoke his schollie.
Quite frankly, ANYONE who sticks it out through this has earned some respect from me.
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could you
post a link or tell me where you heard this? my dad is in disbelief
24/7 is where I saw it
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 2, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
At least the Rose Bowl is entertaining
Looking forward to the Fiesta Bowl tonight too.
All downhill from there though.
i cant beleive they tried to spike it
We are not normal...WE are Legends...We are PENN STATE!
by hawaiipennstatefan on Jan 2, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions
Haha Bielema...
And I thought we had stupid clock mgmt
So did Herbie.
He made a comment “Did they start the clock before the ball was snapped?”
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
I feel like if your profession is announcing football games
That maybe you could learn the clock rules? That was about the third time that mouthbreather Herbstreit had no idea how football works. Does ESPN have to assign a fulltime producer to reminding them were they’re wrong?
True
He also didn’t know that when you are pushed backwards out of bounds, the clock doesn’t stop.
These aren’t hard rules.
Is that the rule?
I remember that and thought the call was wrong. But, the game just kept going.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
If they give you the spot for forward progress
And that spot happened while you were in bounds, then the clock continues to run.
He didn't bring it up again
so, I think somebody prompted him that he was off a bit
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
That was glorious.
I’m not sure which reaction I preferred; Bielema’s look of total confusion or Wilson’s look of, “Hey, I signed up as the college football equivalent of a mercenary for that?”
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
So Wisky loses two big games on replayed played.
And they were the correct calls.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
God the B1G...
makes me hate football sometimes.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
Honestly, they usually get unfavorable bowl match-ups.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
That's a cop out...
win some damn games. Wisconsin has lost back to back Rose Bowls they should’ve won. What was unfavorable about the matchups this year? The B1G has won like 1 Rose Bowl in the last decade.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
I thought this game was a toss up. Both good teams. And how is that a cop out? A lot of the match-ups involve a 4th place BIG team playing a 3rd place SEC team and etc. I also hate that people rate the conference based on Bowl game record.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Why...
how else do you compare conferences? This year Sparty was the 2nd best team in the conference and played the 3rd best SEC team. The 4th best team in the SEC (S. Carolina) played the 4th best B1G team (Neb). The 5th best team in the B1G lost to the best team in C-USA. Wisky and Oregon was a toss up that Wisky lost because their coach is an idiot.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Why compare conferences? Do conferences win the National Championship? Individual teams do. Yes, the top teams usually do have even match-ups. The records get skewed by the lower match-ups.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
The top of the B1G is not...
as good as you think and hasn’t really been very good in a while
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with this
And the bottom is atrocious. Indiana and Minnesota are about as bad as you can get in D1.
And yet both the Michigan St game and Wisky game were good? I agree, they have not been NC worthy but they have not been horrible.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Yes...
they were fun. Also, the two best defenses in the B1G got destroyed today. Utterly destroyed.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think you can say MSU's defense got destroyed.
I also think you could make the case that we performed well above average against Houston.
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statistically..
PSU and Wisky were the two best defenses in B1G. Both gave up over 600 yds of offense.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
statistically...
that’s an average of their 12/13 games they’ve played this season so far. but today, both played against prolific offenses that do nothing but put up big yardage numbers… which is not typical of all the other teams they faced previously. (caveat… i haven’t done the research to back this up… but this is going on gut feel.)
It is what it is...
Didn’t Alabama give up 27 points to Oregon this season?
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
That was LSU.
But yes.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
To best based on what?
I have watched plenty of Wisco and feel more than comfortable saying they do not have a good defense.
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I agree with this.
Wisconsin’s defense looks better than it really is.
Are you sure Joe done it this a'way?
by ReadingRambler on Jan 2, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
To me comparing conference bowl records is just for people to use when trying to bash another conference. Some teams care about winning the bowl game they are in and some seem to just go through the motions.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
It's not the be all end all...
but it is a measuring stick. The B1G is great at making $ (far ahead of anyone else), but aren’t great at winning football games. They used to be good at both.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
And I think some of it is cyclical. Like it or not, Meyer to OSU may help bring back some of the “respect” that the BIG has lost in recent years.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
I once thought that too...
but it hasn’t been cycling back to the B1G like it should.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
The Rose Bowl was a pretty good match up.
It was a tossup, right to the end. Wisky just didn’t win. I think year in, year out the B1G has a couple strong teams but it drops off after the top two.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
What was unfavorable about the matchups this year?
The fact that the teams they faced were better than them.
by ppfcpp on Jan 2, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
see response above.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
I couldn't decide which team I hated more
I still can’t choose because Bielema is a dick and Oregon is as dirty as a hooker in Las Vegas
Oregon is always better than having USC taking the trophy!
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
OSU or Standford? I think OSU can win it.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
ill pick OSU
because this could very well be Weeden’s last game ever. He’ll be a 28 year old rookie next year. Not exactly great draft material
see weinke, christopher
as you alluded, didn’t work out so well
by PhilaLion on Jan 2, 2012 8:56 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I am sure he will land somewhere.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
probably
but I doubt he’ll have the time to get used to the NFL game before he starts his decline.
"That's not helmet-to-helmet"
Excepting the physical contact between one helmet and the other. Never change, Millen.
the only smart football moves Millen has ever made are
1) going to Penn State
2) Drafting Calvin Johnson
He was a starter on...
a couple of super bowl winning teams.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 2, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
He was pretty good linebacker
For a pretty long time, on some really good teams.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
yes he was
im still bitter about his terrible days as a GM. it overshadowed the other things
I'm already bored with this game
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
who heard the problem Justin Blackmon is having?
“Inner thigh infection”?
Is that what they call an STD nowadays?
two words
crotch rot
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
he's
“sore and lethargic”
definitely an STD
I hope Luck throws 10 picks tonight
I can’t stand how over-hyped he has been.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
How do you think RGIII feels?
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Depressing post about the coaching search
From the NY Times.
“There are two possibilities left….
“The first is that Penn State has executed a deftly orchestrated search that has been so calculated, exacting and secretive that it has had a big-name hire lined up for weeks. The interim athletic director David M. Joyner and the board of trustees member Ira M. Lubert, who are leading the search, will be able to take a bow when a coveted and veteran head coach is finally introduced.
“The alternative is not so cheery. It involves Penn State’s search committee being overmatched by the nuanced and cutthroat world of coaching searches and ending up with someone who is prepared to be little more than a placeholder. That would be a coach brought in to answer the hard questions, expunge the program of the stench of the Jerry Sandusky scandal and then be in a position to be jettisoned after a few unremarkable seasons.”
More depression at the link. Read the whole thing:
Depressing yeah,
when I hear the name ‘Bill O’Brien’ I can’t help but think it’s the latter.
False dilemma
There are more than two possibilities. One is that they have a guy they really want but haven’t convinced yet and are stringing their plan Bs along. Another is that their guy was tied up doing something like the NFL season or playing a bowl game and is only going to be available to be locked down and announced this week.
Seems to me like the prolonged search has invited a lot of agents to use it as a stepping stone. First one was Mike London who worked an extension from UVA out of it. Now O’Brien is the most blatant, with his agent responding to reporters with “dunno about PSU but he is interested in NFL jobs if they come.”
I'd say
that if they have a guy who was tied up, it falls into the first point the Times guy made. They’ve had him locked up for a while. Re: your point, he probably said, “Yeah, I’ll do it, but I can’t sign and you can’t announce till after NFL season/bowl game/whatever.” Your point that they have an A-lister but haven’t convinced him I will concede. Munchak is probably the only A-lister left, since Calhoun, Mullen and Grobe are said not to have gotten much interest from Penn State. And Munchak is probably only a possibility because he went to PS and might feel some loyalty. But, really, is an A-lister gonna wanna go there?
I’m not saying they have him tied up, I’m saying they know who they want and don’t have him convinced yet. They could continue to interview Plan B guys while they’re recruiting Plan A.
I don’t know if that’s happening or even likely; I’m just saying that nothing Thamel wrote eliminates it as a possibility to me. The bland quotes from Blackledge make me if anything more convinced he mailed that column in without knowing anything.
Another version
Is that they simply want more time to talk to their leading candidates and haven’t had that chance until this week now that the bowls are over and the NFL season is over. This is a huge deal. Not somebody you hire hastily the way Pitt has done it.
The only guys who wouldn’t be available this coming week are guys coaching for teams in the Wild Card or teams that haven’t played their bowl yet. But there’s nobody I can even think of, let alone one that’s been mentioned, who is in that category.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 3, 2012 12:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you are one of those "glass half full" people, aren't you?
our glass is half empty
Joe Paterno Apologist®
If that's true about Joyner
dealing directly with agents, that’s a bit unsettling. I’d rather have Lubert doing that, simply because he’s made of money and guys like that are usually good negotiators.
But I disagree with the writer and am going with elefantstn here: I think they have their guy, but he just hasn’t decided yet, so they need to keep their options open. Going that way, I feel like they really want Munchak, but will settle on Clements if he doesn’t go for it.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
I think we get option #2
a rebound who is the 5 that looks like an 8 at last call, that you pick up the week after you get dumped by a 10
yes, girls do this too
Joe Paterno Apologist®
#2 wouldn't be the end of the world
In a few years, we may have more and better options to chose from.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 3, 2012 12:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The game was over when they won the toss and decided to kickoff.
I couldn’t believe they made that decison! I said it all week…they needed to score more than 30 to win (and I didn’t think they were capable of that, especially with Bolden at qb) and that whatever they did, if they won the toss they should elect to receive. No way could they get down quick, but the were stupid and did.
Bolden did not surprise me at all. He’s horrilbe and is the only reason another horrible qb (McGloin) sees so much playing time at PSU.
Keenum, despite his great stats, did not impress me much. He’s a very qb for that SYSTEM, but it won’t translate to the pros. Still, I give him credit…he whupped up on PSU.
O-line was horrible. They should be ashamed.
Bradley did not fare well as a head coach.
I would be ok with a complete housecleaning of coaches. Not that they’re all awful, but this team is just stale.
I thought I kept reading here that Houston’s passing game was not the type that would give PSU trouble??? (I never did believe that. I kept saying this matchup scared me.)
Hats off to Houston. They dominated the game. The outcome was never in doubt. PSU was an embarrassment most of the game. Congrats to the Cougars.
zzz
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Oops. That was a mispost
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
I look forward to an offseason of wearing Penn State gear,
just to annoy others.
How could I wear a pro-Joe t-shirt?
By pulling it over my head and sticking my arms through, baby.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
by MainLion on Jan 2, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I think he is Canadian
"Be polite to everyone you meet, but be prepared to kill anyone"-tc16cav
by otisnixon'sparty on Jan 3, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
new name
As if mediocre names havent been enough. Now im hearing greg roman. What a depressing day.
by Jog73 on Jan 2, 2012 10:43 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I am so tempted to start my own Coach rumor
And see how far it spreads, see if it can get on these major “in the know” reporters and try and pass it off as fact.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Imagine how much fun people with actual information are having
B/c they get to tell 3 different people 3 different rumors and then watch as they trickle into the internet. It’s like The Departed where they make shit up to see if it gets leaked to the cops, to try and find the rat.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
It's amazing how these reporters are falling over themselves with these rumors
Within hours of each other:
Schefter: “Jaguars requested and received permission to interview Patriots OC Bill O’Brien, who still is squarely on Penn St.’s radar.”
Charlie Casserly (CBS): O’Brien “Won’t be going to Penn State. Greg Roman SF Off Coord has been interviewed. Penn St to take another shot at Peterson(Boise).”
Let’s throw as much crap up against the wall and see what sticks!
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Jan 2, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
I already did this on twitter, I am now a candidate for HC
the “source” is me. The story was confirmed by my agent (my Mom)
Joe Paterno Apologist®
I jusst heard that same thing on ESPN
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
We can do it!
Just look at all the teams with very good coaches in today’s games alone – Stanford, Oregon, Georgia, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Ohio State, and South Carolina. Then look at how many other teams have great coaches – USC, Alabama, LSU, Boise State, TCU. There are others in our own conference – like Northwestern, Iowa, and Michigan. There are so many good coaches out there and they all had to come from somewhere. So, there is no reason to think that we won’t hire a great coach at Penn State, whether it’s Bradley, some big name, or even some relatively unknown.
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