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Another Weekend, Another Major Recruiting Test For The New Penn State Coaching Staff

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One week ago, Happy Valley played host to nearly 20 high school football players, the majority of which were current Class of 2012 Penn State commitments. Almost everyone had good things to say, no one decommitted after meeting the new bosses, and it appears that the newly assembled staff passed their first test.

This weekend, more visitors arrive on campus, only this time, they're all prospective prospects. With Signing Day rapidly approaching and Penn State sitting tenuously on 15 commitments, the staff will have to work hard to save the Class of 2012.

At least six visitors are confirmed for this weekend's visit, and all six are relatively new faces to those that follow Penn State recruiting. Taking over in Happy Valley with just a month left wasn't easy for the new staff, so quickly finding available prospects was the first order. Ohio State may be signing top-level commit on a seemingly daily basis, but the recruits left on Penn State's radar seem to be solid contributors that can hopefully make a difference in Happy Valley.

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A couple of players from Maryland's Calvert Hall school will be on campus this weekend. If that school sounds familiar, it's because rising sophomore Adrian Amos is an alum, and is close with both WR Trevor Williams and DB Da'Quan Davis. Both recruits are currently WVU commits, but don't be surprised if at least one of them pulls the trigger and joins the Class of '12. In fact, the phrase "Penn State is my dream school" was recently uttered by one of these guys.

Williams is a three-star two-way player, but is being recruited to Penn State as a wide receiver. Davis, also a three-star recruit, is likely a cornerback at the next level. His style meshes well with that of the new defensive coaches, which includes a lot of bump-and-run style play from their corners. Being from Maryland, each were recently pursued by Larry Johnson, Sr.

An old name resurfaces this weekend, as NY RB Akeel Lynch intends to visit. A recent Boston College decommit, Lynch is the running back Penn State needs to take in this class. There haven't been many other names thrown about at the position since the new staff took over, so getting a commitment from Lynch will go a long way to shore up concerns at depth. A three-star back with an impressive slate of offers, Lynch has been talking to Charles London, his potential position coach.

Another position of need in this class is quarterback. Right now, Penn State holds a verbal commitment from PA QB Skyler Mornhinweg, but his commitment and his father's future employment both have Nittany Lion fans nervous that Mornhinweg will never suit up in blue and white. That's why it was somewhat of a relief to see that GA QB Steven Bench would be visiting this weekend, and that a commitment is entirely possible. Bench currently does not have an offer, but I wouldn't be surprised if he not only leaves with one, but also leaves as a member of the Class of '12.

Bench is a two-star pro-style quarterback that seems to be flying under the radar during his recruitment. He has impressed some scouts and has heard from some high-profile teams, including a recent visit from Mississippi State. He is a current commit to Rice.

Potentially looking to bolster the line of scrimmage AND the academic roster, Penn State recently extended an offer to NJ OL Wendy Laurent. (Yes, Wendy. I dare you to say something to his face about it.) Coming from The Hun School in Princeton, Laurent does not have an impressive offer sheet, but the three-star lineman has been getting looks from many programs. Further, with a new, established offensive line coach (a SINGLE OFFENSIVE LINE COACH), anything is possible.

Finally, another familiar name will be on campus, and another addition might soon be made to the father-son list of players at Penn State. WR Jonathan Warner will be here looking to follow in his father Curt's big shoes. Warner has been working with a personal trainer in his home near Seattle, and has been impressing some onlookers late in the game. They can keep looking, though, as Warner seems to be all Penn State.

Admittedly, I have not read Black Shoe Diaries since its inception (sorry, Old Mike), so I don't know if we've ever witnessed what might shortly go down. Of the six names mentioned, there is a good possibility that as many as four will commit by Monday. Have we ever done a two-siren post? We might soon find out.

Additionally, the staff has been going after some other, more highly sought after recruits, including some committed elsewhere. The return interest level for some of these guys remains questionable, but it has been confirmed that the staff has, at the very least, contacted the following athletes:

  • MD CB Ronald Darby - uncommitted; has ruled PSU out, but you have to love the new staff's effort here
  • IN QB Gunner Kiel - Notre Dame (by way of Indiana AND LSU); is enrolled at Notre Dame after a weird recruitment, but again, love the effort
  • NY QB Chad Kelly - Clemson
  • TN QB Chad Voytik - Pitt
  • PA DB Will Parks - Pitt
  • AL LB Beau Hankins - uncommitted
  • AL LB Harding Harper - uncommitted
  • PA DE Evan Schwan - uncommitted

Coach O'Brien recently gave a free interview to Fight On State in which he discussed his recruiting philosophies. There is a lot of good information there, but the part that stuck out to me was his answer to the question about recruiting areas for each coach (emphasis mine):

[Mark Brennan, editor, FightOnState.com]: In the past, Penn State has really focused on a 300-mile radius (around State College). Is that something that will continue? Do you kind of have to keep your own house in order first before looking outside? Or do you look outside immediately?

[Coach O'Brien]: There's three main (things) we have to do to make sure we have the best program in the Big Ten. Number one is we've got to take care of that 300-mile radius. We've got to do a great job in the state of Pennsylvania. We've got to be able to go into Ohio. We've got to be able to go into Chicago. We've got to be able to go into New England and New York. And then, the mid-Atlantic states, especially with the job Larry Johnson has done recruiting in the Baltimore/D.C. area. That's definitely one of the objectives.

Then we've got to do a great job of recruiting the East Coast. So we're going to have three or four coaches in the state of Florida. We're going to have two coaches in the state of Georgia. (They'll be) looking for the types of guys we think will be a great fit for Penn State. But we've got to build our program, the foundation of our program, has to be with prospects from that 300-mile radius. Then we have to go down to Florida and Georgia and use the connections that we all have from when we recruited for different schools and find some Penn State players.

Then the third category I would say is anybody on our staff, including me, who has a connection to a guy who is playing in Texas or maybe California. Maybe it's an alum's son or something like that. We definitely will look to other parts of the country. But we have to concentrate on the East Coast.

Today's Pop Quiz: Name the last time Penn State signed a player from each of these four named states. Getting into new areas seems to be a priority for these coaches, and that is a fantastic first step. Hopefully by the end of today, we'll add a Washington state commit, two Marylands, a New Jersey, a New York, and one Georgia gunslinger.

Stay tuned as we learn more from what should be an action packed weekend.

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Any word on how Cam and Armani's visit to OSU went?

Also, love to see the staff going after Kiel and Kelly, and I can’t wait to see what kind of QB BOB can pull in 2013, when he actually has a full year to recruit.

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jan 20, 2012 8:35 AM EST reply actions  

Also, UPDATE

The staff dropped in on Devin Fuller yesterday. None of these three (Kiel, Kelly or Fuller) will end up at PSU. But they’re really putting on the press. Can’t wait to see what they can do in a full year, especially with a likelihood of an early, highly rated commit that could help rally the class in Adam Breneman.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Where is Fuller going?

"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13

by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Rutgers vs. Arizona.

Rutgers is close to home and allows him to fulfill his dream of being an actual QB, while AZ would be a perfect fit in RichRod’s offense. My money is on Rutgers.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow,

Fuller running the RR would actually be a pretty frightening thought if I’m in that conference. Why on earth (from a football perspective) would he go to Rutgers if that’s on the table?

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I would have guessed that would be the reasoning.

But isn’t he barely six foot and not even 200?

Seems to me the path to the NFL is not being the next Drew Brees, but rather being the next Pat White and stealing some paychecks as somebody’s gamble. Hell, if he goes to Arizona the Raiders might give him a couple hundred thousand right now. Wildcat gamble aside, the exposure as the dynamic running QB still allows him to go the Cribbs/RandleEl/Eddelman route too.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No Word Yet

But both Michigan and OSU blogs assume they have both of them in the bag.

by Doboy36 on Jan 20, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

So does that mean

we panic and claim the end of the world, or assume we have them in the bag as well? What’s the precedent here?

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by skarocksoi on Jan 20, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Might as well follow the crowd.

No way we lose Cam and Armani. It’s in the bag.

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by Swiggs on Jan 20, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

When in doubt, swag it out.

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jan 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

One out of two?

Cam Williams has announced his intention to be a *uckeye.

by Doboy36 on Jan 20, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

With regards to panic/end of the world...

may I remind everyone of one QB great out of Jeanette? How’d that work out? :)

by PSU Jen on Jan 20, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't remind me.....

"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."

by DerryPharmer on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

If he had lost all three to PSU, would have been perfect

No MNC. No Heisman. Brought down a program and a coach (though not for long wrt the former). Wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out that he was a double agent for us or UM.

"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13

by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Even if they don't land some of these recruits...

…I am still very excited to see what this new coaching staff and attitude can do with the existing players.

"Wham! a homma. Wham! Another homma. Wham! Wham! Wham!"

by LowcountryLion on Jan 20, 2012 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

Is Wendy short of Wendell...

Or is it really Wendy?

When are parents going to think about having to grow up with the insane names they give their babies?

by TonyLion on Jan 21, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

At least it's not "Wendi"

with an “i” that was dotted with a heart . . .

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 21, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It's Wendy.

My first year of law school I did an externship with the Allegheny (Pittsburgh) County Family Courts (side note: don’t ever do this; the only thing it taught me professionally was that I did not want to be a family attorney). The judge I worked for said she had a lot of great kid’s names come through, but the best was Shithead (pronounced “Shi-tAID”).

Yes.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 21, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I will try to source

but a woman in Florida, I think it was, got pissed because school officials and teachers were mispronouncing her daughter’s name, which was “La-a”. Folks were calling her “Leia” and stuff like that. The mother said, "It’s pronounced “La-DASH-a!!”"

Oooooooookkkkkkaaaaayyyyyy.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 21, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Not just in FLA

My sister is a high school teacher in Philly and she has had at least 1 student with a pronounced dash in her name.

by wjh150 on Jan 21, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

To jump on

The old story were the twins named OrangeJello and LemonJello. The mother corrected the clerk and said that they were pronounced O Ran Jaa Lo and Laa Mon Jaa Lo. (Wish I could have phonetically made it look better)

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 21, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

You should see a class roster in Louisiana.

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Jan 21, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I am never going to say anything about anyone's name...

Since my daughters name Is Calamity Jaye…

All of our comments are irrelevant - LetsGoPSU

by jaytay13 on Jan 22, 2012 6:00 AM EST up reply actions  

D'Anton Lynn was from Texas

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

But he wasn't the most recent.

Texas is the easy of the four. The other three will prove more difficult.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Fera most recent?

Or was he from Michigan? And do kickers even count?

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Woops ^^^^

Missed this. I read it as “For most recent?” Although I don’t regret getting to reference Junny’s favorite beverage.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I would have guessed him too.

Literally the only one I can remember.

Didn’t we grab some anonymous TE filler out of GA at some point?

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

BLARGH SERVERS!

I was trying to say Sargent is the only one I remember from Cali . . . ever?

Didn’t we grab some anonymous GA QB at some point? Someone with good offers that we switched to possession WR? Can’t quite grab a name here . . .

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

It did show up after all once I refreshed.

Forget it, I’m going to do something less interactive. . . stare at pictures of food in Thursday Tailgate or something.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Wording

“prospective prospects”

C’mon man!

by DHLions on Jan 20, 2012 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

Welcome to the Department of Redundancy Department!

"Paige your Auburn opinions dont count unless its with regard to making fun of Roof!" - skarocksoi

by Paige2PSU on Jan 20, 2012 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

That's the bloke.

Switched positions and barely played or something right?

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Correct

Played QB in high school at something like 6’5, 245. Got moved to tight end at Penn State and never played.

by kflintosh on Jan 31, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

WINNER

Still waiting for California and Florida

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Cali

Was it the QB Zac something or other, came in the same class as Mills. Or have we had one from there since then?

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

That was Wasserman

or something similar. Did he ever set foot on campus?

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought he did

but got lost in the shuffle. Junny would probably have the answer to that.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he played in a Blue White game.

IIRC, he transferred out because his mom got sick with cancer, or something like that, and he wanted to be close to home for her.

Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!

by icavalera on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking for scholarship guys.

But I suppose this would win for ANY player from Florida.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Josh Waitzkin?


(Ok, in attempting a smartass injection, I uncovered this interesting photo of the chess prodigy & the RZA; if you’re interested in a threadtangent check this 2008 article in psychology today)(/returns to recruiting thoughts)

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t Derrick Williams or Justin King originally from Cali?

by phanatic's phloozies on Jan 20, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Nein

King from Western PA
DWheels from Beltsville, MD

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams supposedly signed with the Steelers.

A little shocking, but good luck DW.

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Other way around...

Sargeant was originally from W. Pa and moved to Cali.

by J Breezy on Jan 20, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the most important question is

will BOB and his staff continue recruiting the hotbed of Scranton?

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

I NEED TO KNOW

I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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by Peter Gray on Jan 20, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think JoePa used to say 500 mile radius

But these are beyond that even.

Mike Mauti – Louisiana
Ryan Nowicki – Arizona

by TonyLion on Jan 20, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

Does any remember...

Mac Morrison – Washington State.
And is he the only WA player prior to Curt Warner’s kid?

by TonyLion on Jan 21, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha.

Soooooooo sad.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Not in the last 10 years, at least.

Which is how far back Scout goes in tracking commits of scholarship players. I’m sure we’ve had one AT SOME POINT. But the point of the comment was that it’s been awhile.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Willie Smith? LB from the '94 team. Pretty sure he was from FL.

Don’t know if there have been any that are more recent, though.

Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!

by icavalera on Jan 20, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

10 years is a mighty long time

Michael Timpson, a sprinter from Florida, made a big splash as a recuit back in the mid ’80s.

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by Frank O'Brien on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Timpson was a good receiver

He went on to play for New England and Philadelphia.

by ForeverUtes on Jan 22, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

John Wilson from Florida?

@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."

#OccupyESPN


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by Adam Collyer on Jan 20, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Ako Poti

was from Cali. Never really contributed.

by NittanyBlueHen on Jan 20, 2012 9:29 AM EST reply actions  

Oh man,

forgot the JUCOs. SFCC right?

Also, didn’t he play RT in 2009?

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly,

he played some due to injuries. I also remember a DUI or underage or something. Joe’s doghouse kind of stuff.

by NittanyBlueHen on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Poti's biggest contribution may have been

a DUI (or similar, he was legal to drink). He was driving a pick-em-up truck with Montana, not Cali, plates while he was here. PSU probably has never-ever recruited anybody out of Montana! He actually did play a fair amount of minutes but never a road-grader.

Still, he might make an all name team in central PA, though not in Cali or places like that.

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually

I may have this jacked up. Was Poti one of the ones in that apt where the doob debris was found in the trash can with Evans? Or am I mixing him up with Koroma? Or were they both there?

/gossip boy’d

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe that was Koroma

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

And not Poti at all?

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

The only "bad news" I remember about Poti

Was the DUI thing. I also remember those Montana plates on the car which I though was wierd.

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok

Yeah, I think I jacked that up. Apologies for mis-applied slandering.

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Well.

Certainly not impressed with this recruiting class in any way, but that was largely expected. That said, however, I am excited for future recruiting at Penn State. I like BOB’s philosophy and a younger coaching staff overall. I feel like these guys will get out and get after it, even in areas we haven’t touched with recruiting in the past. Bring it, Urban.

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by Swiggs on Jan 20, 2012 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

Bob just wants his coaches to get University paid,

working vacations to FL in Feb-March. All businesses do things like that. Training programs on cruise ships, business meetings at Disney World….

That’s all sarcasm. I really, I hope they can make some inroads down there.

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

A couple things

1. Dude is nailing these interviews. Can’t tell of course if it was he who insisted they be of the free variety or not, but it’s important that they are. And he’s nailing them.
2. Basetouching with no-chance, committed-elsewheres is very interesting. At first glance, it could be spun as shady, but this quote from the BWI article the other day has me thinking differently:

Bauer: Has the recruit reception to you been largely positive?
O’Brien: I haven’t had one negative experience in recruiting. Again, I think recruiting is about being honest and telling them everything about your program. Things that are great about your program, things that we need to work on in this program. I think if you’re honest with these parents and their sons, I think you’ve got a better chance of those guys coming to Penn State. The one thing I’m never going to be is a used car salesman. I grew up 30 minutes north of Boston. I come from an Irish family. There wasn’t a lot of BS in my family. Nobody I’ve ever worked for has been full of you know what. So, I just think honesty is the best policy, and that’s what we’re going to do. We’re not going to talk about other schools. We’ve got great schools in this conference to compete against, but we’re going to talk about Penn State and how we’re going to do things.
So, I’m going with this tactic is smart and builds infrastructure in both the future player & current HS coaches networks.
3. We can never have enough Da’Quan’s on this team

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 9:38 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

I think he’s just trying to get his name out there, get people talking about him and the staff. That way, kids will talk to kids and help us in the long haul.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Can't wait for the BSD interview

And it better be free…

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That'd be hilarious!

Junny, fresh off his recent Bloomberg fame, scores a sit down and….then charges us to read it!

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly!

The Sprewell opportunities would be legion!

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually

At this rate, BOB would probably insist on some final perestroika and only grant a blogger interview to the combo of Junny & Fugi.

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

But only after a fight to the death

BLOGGERDOME!!! Two men enter, only one leaves.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

fixed

BLOGGERDOME!!! Two men bloggers enter, only one leaves.

I just read.

by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

BOOM!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Goes the dynamite

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

CA - I remember a QB from there who ended up transferring out. Zac Wasserman?

He was early 2000’s, and I think he was in the same class as Zack Mills.

Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!

by icavalera on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

Gosh, read the comments

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant the fact that

I had already mentioned a Zac something or other that came in the class with Mills. Mainly because I want to toot my own horn.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Or be Visanthe Shiancoe

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

don't know the reference,

but i’m sure i shouldn’t be googling it from work.

by smh244 on Jan 20, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

That would be correct

Just know, he’s the kind of guy that would know the urinal water was cold. And deep.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Ut oh

Next thing you know Ben Jones’ll be droppin in here to share what he knows about Maybin’s jewelry.

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

so what you're saying

is that he’ll never need a cane to help him walk.

by smh244 on Jan 20, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Think tripod...

Never falls down when drunk for some reason.

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Jan 20, 2012 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, I see. I totally missed that one.

And here I thought I was the special one for remembering Wasserman.

Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!

by icavalera on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Watch your mouth Jman!

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Do we need to have

a good old fashioned donnybrook after some corn likker jtot?

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe we may

And I’m not the one going all potty mouth, droppin Goshes left and right.

This is a family blog for fuck’s sake.

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I apologize for the error of my ways

I will try my damndest to never let it happen again.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, have you seen Bman play recently?

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

No I have not

I keep getting invites but I’ve either been out of town or had previous engagements.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I get the Facebook invites,

but it’s usually a little far for me to travel to go see him play (Still appreciate the invites, BMAN)!

"Paige your Auburn opinions dont count unless its with regard to making fun of Roof!" - skarocksoi

by Paige2PSU on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Playin next friday, 27th, at Fox's West End, on the west side of chambersburg on the point

old man hours, woo hoo, 6-9. Great biker/dive bar with excelllent food, hbeach would love it. Go for the crab nachos or the prime rib and the house salad dressing is a home made sweet and sour. Sue makes her own vinagers. There are pool tables, electronic hunting machine, electronic bowling machine, bar games (yes hbeach the old strip match game) and darts. I think they keep the darts behind the bar when I’m playing.

I will shamelessly advertise.

I just read.

by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm assuming this is music-related.

What are you jamming, BMAN?

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

ABBA deep cuts

I'm the XBOX to your Atari.

by WorldBFat on Jan 20, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Ouch.

That makes me glad I am nine hours away from there.

Of course, I should talk: I’m rocking to Nilsson right now.

/retro

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

my repetoire includes:

Lots of Grateful Dead, Dylan, Neil Young, Jackson Browne
Some Pink Floyd, Tom Petty, Band, LIttle Feat, Hot Tuna, New Riders, Rober Cray, Keb Mo
Some folk artists like Tom Waits, Eric Anderson, Croce, Bromberg, John Prine
A couple by Pearl Jam, Live, Nirvana
and some new artists like David Gray, Ray Lamontaigne, Amos Lee, Ryan Adams and Decemberists
A few other songs of whatever genre you want lump that into.

I just read.

by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you do

Bob Seger’s “Turn the Page”? He really puts an edge on that song.

If not, how about Pachelbel’s Canon?

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I play Turn the Page

have to turn up the reverb but it works.
My son plays cello and I’ve been working on the grandsons but it looks like the youngest may try to play strings but that is it, so no Pachelbel

I just read.

by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Very nice.

Like I said, that is one song that I never get tired of hearing.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my song!!

"Paige your Auburn opinions dont count unless its with regard to making fun of Roof!" - skarocksoi

by Paige2PSU on Jan 20, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

as in turn Paige over? resist sexual harassment, you have been trained…..

I just read.

by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought about heading up to where I graduated high school and trying that area

Mifflinburg, Lewisburg but I don’t really know places north of there.

I just read.

by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Lycoming County --

my home turf.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

played little league in Old Lycoming Twshp

but never drank when I lived there. Williamsport is a bout a 3 hour drive. I would want some decent $$$ to play a 3.5 or 4 hour show. I really am looking to play 2 times a month, maybe three this summer but I do have a real job. The accoustic solo act is gaining ground again in my area, as it was pretty big in the 80’s when I started. I didn’t play out from 95 to this past summer do to kids and stuff but go back into this past summer and have no kids to worry about so I’m just getting back into it.

I just read.

by BMAN13 on Jan 20, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm north of there yet

Bradford County, current home to pipeliners, roughnecks and drillers.

by smh244 on Jan 20, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

244, grew up in Ralston --

went to HS in Canton.

C&N Bank in Wellsboro looking for a controller — might apply.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, for us formal types,

a Donald Brook.

Leaders Co-Champions

by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ha

Somehow it seems like the Rocket would obliterate the Indian

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Just for that

I’m coming to Fox’s to heckle and throw tomaters.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Morninwheg was pretty solid

What’s the deal with that?

That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.

by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 20, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

He's remaining very quiet.

I think the staff may be hedging their bets. Two QBs wouldn’t be terrible. Zero QBs would be bad.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

"Zero QBs would be bad."

But as we’ve seen this year, we can get by with 2 half-QBs

You know, if we could stick Bolden and McGloin in some sort of teleportation machine, like in the Fly, we might be OK for next year.

That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.

by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 20, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

you're suggesting we combine them into one?

I shudder to think about that outcome.

The horror! The horror!

by NuclearLion on Jan 20, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, you either get the best qualities of both

and end up with a serviceable QB, or the worst of both and end up with a monstrosity (like The Fly). Monstrosity might be OK though, if we can get it locked in a room with the BoT.

That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.

by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 20, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Worst of both may not all bad

Then, McBolden would throw the sure-interception on the out route into the dirt, saving a pick-6.

by nuker77 on Jan 20, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

It's McGlolden

get it right.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

McGloden

sounds too much like an Irish Al Golden. BOB is all the irish coaching we need.

by nuker77 on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

And if they were the worst qualities

it would be McGLOLden

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

That would normally be an acceptable compromise,

but until we have another QB in place, this reality is still too fresh to be humorous

by nuker77 on Jan 20, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

If we got the best qualities of both

we’d probably be doing ok (maybe). Bolden’s arm’s obviously much stronger, but I’d say Mcgloin’s got better mobility, confidence and decision making (shudder…). You’d basically have Brett Favre.

If you combined the worst qualities, you’d have a weak-armed timid QB that throws the ball softly into the arms of the defensive line, or constantly takes 10 yard sacks. I don’t think the BoT would be very scared of that.

by NuclearLion on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

perhaps not

but it strikes fear into the heart of me

by smh244 on Jan 20, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I can confirm that I am visiting Penn State this weekend

sadly, however, i strongly doubt that I will meet any of the coaches.

by PSUgirl on Jan 20, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

Who's hosting you?

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 9:55 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think they're still working on the hugability index

LARRY JOHNSON RATES A 5 STAR

I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
#OccupyESPN

by skarocksoi on Jan 20, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

We have a clear winner

Coach Godsey.

BUT SERIOUSLY – we’re in the process of creating a Coach Butler fan club – we already have a president (surprisingly not me) and a rec from GoPSUTony – he’s actually the one who first mentioned the fan club…

by PSUgirl on Jan 20, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you guys underestimate just how hard it is to get recruits out of Florida to the north.

And not just Florida, South Florida. Schools like St. Thomas Aquinas, Glades Central, Pahokee, Palm Beach Gardens, Atlantic, Dwyer, Spanish River, Coral Springs High.

Of those I listed, only the last two are public schools in suburban areas. Pahokee and Bell Glade are literally high schools in the middle of gang heavy plantation towns. Yeah, you get decent talent spread throughout the state, but most of the high end talent comes from those schools, and the inner city Miami ones. It is such a completely different lifestyle that you just aren’t going to get many to bite.

And that’s even before taking into consideration grades and the like. I would be very surprised to find many students from Bell Glade that would qualify to go to PSU academically. This isn’t to say they are dumb, but out there, it’s football or drug gangs, and school is a distant third priority.

When Florida, Georgia, Bama etc are loading up on players, these are the guys they are taking. You can rake the rest of the state with a fine tooth comb, and you’ll get a dozen 3-5 star guys a year like Tebow, but you’re still fighting the rest of the country with them.

The trick with recruiting Florida is going to be using it to fill out your class with 3 star guys that may be a bit overshadowed by the amazing 4-5 star recruits. Which means a ton of film analysis, and taking some chances that don’t have OMG STARS.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Jan 20, 2012 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

Not sure if that was supposed to be sarcastic or not.

I grew up in West Palm. I ran track against a lot of these kids, and sat out under the Bleachers in Belle Glade til 2am for many, many track meets over 4 years in high school. I don’t see many of those guys as fitting the PSU mold.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Jan 20, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't speak for Miami drug related hits on teachers.

But I knew people from running and soccer that definitely had family deep in the gang shit out in the cane farm area. It got a little better in the more urban parts of Palm Beach County, but you still had trouble spot schools like Lake Worth, Forest Hills and Atlantic that were not “fun” places to go to school.

But by far the worst was out in Pahokee and Glades Central.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Jan 20, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's a good writeup on the situation.

http://www.michigandaily.com/content/life-death-and-football-story-unlikely-bond-between-two-football-powerhouses

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Jan 20, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Less than Auburn spent on CammyCam

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

A percentage of royalties?

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't really agree

Yes it may be difficult, but it is not impossible. Ohio State and Michigan regularly pull 4* guys from FL. Theoretically, why can’t PSU?

by jrock4 on Jan 20, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

What? No Pago Pago recruit question?

Answer: Amani Purcell.

I think this should count as the California answer since, you know, it’s west of California.

by CvilleLion on Jan 20, 2012 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

Malik Golden just reaffirmed.

Was he counted in our 15 “current” commits?

Leaders Co-Champions

by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Tribe gets a rec

"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13

by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Where is Waldo, er Shyquawn?

Did he land anywhere?

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he went to prep school

But fizzled after some academic struggles? (/begs correction if applicable)

jtothetweet
They don't even bind feet in China anymore, mostly.

by jtothep on Jan 20, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

But that’s very good news. Didn’t see that, but he was on the fence with Iowa and UConn.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

We just have to keep PA blue chips here

and not lose them to ND, OSU and MI. It’s one thing to lose a kid to the SEC. Warm weather, hot girls, good football. But losing one to a B1G team (you too, ND) just kills me. We cannot keep passing on and/or losing players like Persa, Nosovitch, Spence, Koyack, etc. And we should be able to get the “best” kids from NJ andMd/Va.

I am optimistic that the youth and energy of Obrien’s coaches will start to get more of these kids.

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions  

Steven Bench

I’m already dreading the lame puns we’ll have to endure should this guy be a bust.

by NittanyBlueHen on Jan 20, 2012 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Johnny was pretty good!

With names like Bench and Wendy, you have to work extra hard to assure you don’t fail.

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Any chance that JJ Denman

will give PSU another look? Madison press noted that Denman might be looking at Pitt since former Wisconsin O-line coach Bostad followed Chryst there. Now word is that Bostad may be heading to the Chicago Bears.

Phil

by baronlion on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

I mean, he won't come to Penn State, but Chad Kelly

I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
Black Shoe Diaries
@runthedive

by Peter Gray on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM EST reply actions  

He's like McGloin

but with talent and ability!

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jan 20, 2012 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

That's really accurate, actually.

I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
Black Shoe Diaries
@runthedive

by Peter Gray on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Including the MOXIENESS?

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Steven Bench was described by a Georgia writer on 247Sports as having a ton of "moxie".

The writer had no idea of the history of that word with Penn State and McGloin. So I hope everyone is ready for some more moxie.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Just what we need

another guy who thinks much too highly of himself to the point he will make completely unfounded comparisons about himself, talk major shite and gets into a verbal altercation and eventual fight with of his WR’s before a freakin bowl game where he gets knocked the F out. Pass on that please.

May the JVP way......success with honor forever be the Penn State way.

by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Or, the writer could be a dork

who does know how “moxie” sets our teeth on edge so is being deliberately provocative, or . . . . .

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm excited to see what a staff that is determined and willing to put in the time and effort to recruit can do

Last year’s class was hindered because of Joe’s health and the late offers, and then this year’s class was hindered by “it” happening. So the program is in need of a big and productive class to replenish some of the talent that has suffered the past few years.

I think everyone is excited to see what kind of class they can put together, given the resources that PSU has. It just is up to how much effort the coaches want to put in, and from the early indications, this staff is full of effort.

by GMac14 on Jan 20, 2012 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

11:00a Update

Nyeem Wartman and Malik Golden have reaffirmed their commitments.
Neither Cam Williams nor Armani Reeves have decommited and/or committed to OSU.
Still no siren, which is slightly surprising, as my No. 1 siren target has supposedly been on campus since this morning.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

At this point,

is it safe to say Cam and Armani are at least holding off to meet BOB next weekend?

Leaders Co-Champions

by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Glad to hear about Malik.

I had just finished reading about Nyeem’s recommitment before dropping in here.

Hoping we get Cam and Armani, or that, if we don’t, they wind up at Utah State or somewhere far, far away from the B1G.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

And are Cam and Armani looking to go to the same school?

I can’t remember if they are from the same school or if Cam just recruited Armani to PSU. Didn’t know OSU had that many spots left to be able to take both if that was the case.

by GMac14 on Jan 20, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

They live in the same area

and attend the same Prep School, a very good school by the way where I have it on good authority that the athletes still have a heavy work load with high academic standards.

That said, I get the impression they don’t necessarily consider themselves a package deal.

Leaders Co-Champions

by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

IIRC

they thought it would be cool to go to the same place but were not a package deal.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Kind of like the kids in Superbad

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Can't source it

but I saw something this past week where A was not as adamant as B about them landing together. If I had to guess, it would be Reeves saying he was not as “concerned” about that as Cam . . . .

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Cam's dad is Armani's Godfather as well

I saw that somewhere. Follow both of them on that Twitter thingy.
Armani’s tweets after his Michigan visit seemed a little hollow, meaning he didn’t seem too thrilled.
I take no commitment after having dinner with the Urbanator is a positive sign.

Finally, the Big Ern is above the law!

by MillerBoi on Jan 20, 2012 2:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe Urb shoveled spaghetti into his face with his bare hands.

Sandwich is the best
Bread use aside from making
Russians stand in line

by WorldBFat on Jan 20, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope Wartman gets in Cam's ear

and reminds Cam why he convinced him to go to PSU in the first place.

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

same

Cam also originally convinced Golden to commit as well.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I still think he comes here

I don’t have the twitter but I haven’t seen anything that makes me think he’s out the door.

I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl

by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

It's dicey.

The three (Cam, Armani, Cox) could all end up at PSU, OSU, or be split up. It’s really anyone’s guess right now…

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, how many spots does OSU have available?

How the Eff can they be in on so many players after they just got whacked with scholly reductions?
And is it just me that thinks Urban is being a tremendous dick by pilfering all our recruits? I havent heard ONE single recruit that Urban is in on that didnt have ties to PSU….

Finally, the Big Ern is above the law!

by MillerBoi on Jan 20, 2012 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Insta-rec.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

In Meyer's defense, theye deserved to be cut

One of them got a DUI the night after Meyer had his first meeting and laid down rules like “DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE!” The same player had gotten arrested last fall for shooting an airsoft gun at people from his dorm’s roof.

The other one allegedly beat up his pregnant girlfriend.

by 1LisHell on Jan 21, 2012 2:28 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Can anyone source

the Malik Golden recommit? I’m not seeing anything on open, Google-based searches.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Back in the day

PSU used to grab players routinely out of Florida and South Carolina. Last quality C guy I can think of was Rodney Kinlaw. Surprised SC was not mentioned as PSU has grabbed a bunch of quality guys from that State. GA is going to be tough…..PSU has never had a strong presence here and UGA, Auburn, Bama and UF have a lockdown on the top talent. As for FL….if BOB wants to have serious success he needs to go make nice with OJ McDuffie. Dude is wired in to South Florida football and could be a huge PSU asset!

May the JVP way......success with honor forever be the Penn State way.

by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

I think we were close with Marcus lattimore

out of SC. Believe Joe was actually going to visit him, but then the ol’ HBC swooped in before Joe got there.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Close but we never had a chance

A lot of Southern recruits just don’t like to be that far from home. A good bit of them don’t want to play in cold weather either. Just facts of life PSU has to deal with when recruiting in the South. It really didn’t make a difference as if we landed ML we never would have landed Silas Redd. With our OL issues….Redd is probably the better fit for PSU right now.

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by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's just Southern guys who want to stay close to home

We get more than our share of PA, NJ and Maryland guys who want their families to be able to see them play or be within a short drive from home.

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by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Another problem with the south......

in at least GA…..academic standards are low…….(google the recent academic scandal in the Atlanta public schools)…….a lot of potential prospects are going to have issues with meeting PSU academic standards.

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by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure.....

no doubt……but I can tell you from talking to high school prospects in the south that it is on a whole different level here.

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by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

this really gets to me

As an alum, I can’t fathom not meeting the academic standards. I’m not saying PSU is a breeding ground for the stupid, but you need not be a Rhodes Scholar candidate to attend. Is there something I’m missing here?

by smh244 on Jan 20, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you attend UP or start in a Satellite school?

UP has overall higher admission standards than satellite locations, and specific majors have requirements as well. My brother just got accepted into Lehigh Valley’s campus but didn’t have the grades to get into their Business program, he had to go in as gen ed and apply again after a year.

I got into UP as an out of state student but it wasn’t a sure thing, even though I was guaranteed a full ride in state by UF for my high school performance. PSU definitely isn’t Northwestern, or an Ivy school, but it’s no joke to get into academically.

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by mvrck on Jan 20, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Accepting into UP...

But started at Delaware Valley College…the tranferred to UP when I realized what a colossal mistake I’d made. Best. Decision. Ever

by smh244 on Jan 20, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Straight up admissions for UP is tough

They are kind of ridiculous about it actually. My fiance’s brother was accepted only to a branch campus, so he passed and instead got his biochem degree from Dickinson. So LOL, because I’m pretty sure his classes at Dickinson were AT LEAST as difficult as what he would have gone through at Penn State.

The point is, UP has a glut of applications, but is not setting the bar astronomically high to get a degree once you’re in. Guys running 4.3 40s who can catch passes do not need to worry about the “glut of applications” phenomenon.

by PSUCharmas on Jan 20, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Sad but true.....

In Atlanta there was HUGE scandal where many teachers at the direction of the Superintendent were changing student answers on tests to raise grades as well as standardized testing.

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by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

When test scores determine future testing

you can not be surprised by the actions of those running the show.

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by rahpsu92 on Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It depends on where you are in the south.

Inner-city schools generally are not very good and some county schools are not. Some, especially suburban schools, tend to be very good. But I think that’s probably universal.

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by Paige2PSU on Jan 20, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

In GA

only a handful of the public schools statewide are what I would classify as quality….urban or suburb. If you are not in one of those school districts….the only way to ensure your child gets a quality education is private school. I actually think we are below AL in the statewide rankings.

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by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, I did go to Brookwood,

“A National School of Excellence” LOL!

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by Paige2PSU on Jan 20, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

So, exactly like Pennsylvania then?

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by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

100x's worse....you would be shocked

I attended both private(though middle school) and public school ( HS on) in PA. Yes there were a lot of kids who breezed through the public school system….but if you were in the advanced classes at my HS you received a very good education. I am absolutely horrified about the school situation in GA and how far behind the kids are here. The bad thing with Atlanta is that the private schools I speak of are all currently 22K per year. I shudder to think about how much they will cost when my 2 year old is ready to attend.

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by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

That's not entirely true

Several of the ‘top’ ones are 17K.

Not that that’s pocket change. But it’s still cheaper than lots of private schools in the NE.

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by Cream on Jan 20, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Marist

which is Catholic (and priced way above Catholice schols in PA) but not Westminster, Pace or Lovett.

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by pic15 on Jan 20, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I know it's a broad generalization..

But per US Census numbers, the south is always at the bottom of education statistics. 2009 is the latests I could find official numbers on. Southern states rank as follows (rank in parentheses, out of 51 [incl. DC], along with PA for comparison):

HS graduate or higher – MS (50), KY (48), AL (47), LA (46), TN (42), GA (40)…PA (23)
BA degree or more – MS (49), KY (48), LA (47), AL (45), TN (42)…PA (27)
Advanced degree or more – LA (48), MS (47), AL (41)…PA (20)

I tried to work on a State Education vs. Football Player Production post, but it was just too much data.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Our new state tourism motto:

Louisiana:
Third World and Proud of It!

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by SubLime on Jan 20, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

better than oklahoma

“The circus was here once.”

by smh244 on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

We're Texas' Hat

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by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, at least we're not Alabama

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by jman07 on Jan 20, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, now!!

That’s just not right.

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by Paige2PSU on Jan 20, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

We're definitely looking up at Alabama.

Hell, when I cross the state line into Mississippi, I feel like I’m reentering the United States.

Think about that: Miss-a-fuckin’-sippi.

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by SubLime on Jan 20, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, "Third World" is

a step up.

/RemembersFortPolk

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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

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by afields16 on Jan 20, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

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by SubLime on Jan 20, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

While in NOLA last weekend...

We were at lunch, and a buddy said something that the waitress misinterpreted as him slighting her grammar usage. Her reply? “Well, that’s my Louisiana education for you.”

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Good job . . .

My wife’s family (father’s side) comes from the west bank — Algiers, Belle Chasse, Gretna, even Marrero. They tend to talk like this, with a mix of something vaguely Brooklyn-like thrown in.

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by SubLime on Jan 20, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Junny,

there is some sort of inferiority complex in the collective consciousness down here that often reveals itself in a defensive reaction to the most innocuous comment.

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by SubLime on Jan 20, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

That is shared by some of

the more rural areas here in North Carolina. It’s almost reflexive in how some respond to anything from me asking them to repeat what they just said (I have a hearing loss from the military, so sometimes don’t get stuff the first time) to reactions to a TV program.

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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 21, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Tweet from Armani Reeves

“Home Sweet Home”

Could be good or could be bad. Are they on their way back to Boston yet? We need our BSD crew to get on the phones!!

by LionInTheWeeds on Jan 20, 2012 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

I took it to mean that he is at his home.

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by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I just checked Reeves' twitter

the only noteworthy things I saw were several tweets @ porn star BiBi Jones (the Rob Gronkowski girl) begging for her to follow him….

by nittanynation on Jan 20, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

thats probably a good sign, right?

hey, if BOB can get Gronk a porn star, why not you too?

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by skarocksoi on Jan 20, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Walk that line though

The dude Yuri Wright from Don Bosco got expelled from school for tweeting things like “I need some pussy” and Michigan and possibly ND have stopped recruiting him.

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by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

well ND is a prude

no sure why Michigan though, seeing as how Ann Arbor is a whore… Maybe he just saw some of those Michigan girls on tv and changed his mind.

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by skarocksoi on Jan 20, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I think it wasn't the tweets per se

But the fact that he got expelled and perhaps some other disciplinary issues.

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by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Warner didn't play football until this year?

His senior year? And he’s, you know, a Warner? Wow.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

wasn't it Omar Easy

that was kinda like that. Flashed major raw talent but didn’t really put it together? i’m a little foggy on that. I remember being at a game that he just blew it up, or seemed to. Many of those games were a little foggy for me…..

by smh244 on Jan 20, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he was like Crawford at DE.

Ridiculous physical tools, but unable to put them to much use on a football field.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 20, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Crawford never became an All-American

But he was still a really good football player. He’s been invited to the combine. I think there are better examples of physical freaks who didn’t pan out as football players.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree that he's a really good football player.

He got next to 0 pressure all year in a scheme that demands a lot of its front four. He may be a ‘really good football palyer’ by ‘average D1 football school’ standards, but he was not a really good football player by PSU/LJ standards. By that standard, he was Matt Rice and not much more.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 20, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Woah, Matt Rice was a hell of a player who was

overshadowed by Hali on the other side. I think Matt Rice is a great example of a really good football player by PSU/LJ standards.

I just don’t think that Crawford position has as many pass rush assignments as the other end (the rotating spot where Massaro was supposed to play). It’s not the sexy speed rusher that gets everyone excisted, but I think Crawford had a hell of a year.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Rice was really good in run support, but that's about it.

IMO Josh Gaines was a lot better than either of these guys. PSU got lit up by Houston in large part because none of our ends could come close to beating OTs one on one. I mean, not even close. And it’s not like Keenum was a huge threat to run, so they were playing contain. Same thing happened vs. USC. Maybin had one move, USC gameplanned for it, and viola, Sanchez faced almost 0 pressure. People rip on Bradley and the secondary all the time, but IMO the last couple of years the DL has been at least as big a problem. Having one stud does no good if the other three guys can’t beat a single man with some consistency.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 20, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

we’ve had this discussion I think, and I just don’t agree. Keenum was excellent moving around the pocket, and the defensive scheme was very effective but-for Willis getting abused in the worst display of DBing I’ve seen for an entire quarter, and Astorino fell on his face once. The pass rush really wasn’t the problem.

Complaining about Maybin is silly. He was an absolute monster. USC had a line full of NFL linemen, and Maybin was still playing end in college at 235. He was incredible that year.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I blocked the Bowl out of my mind mostly

But I can’t think of too many times where Keenum took more than a few seconds in the pocket to hit a wide open man. It wasn’t like he stood in the pocket until coverage broke down because the pass rush couldn’t get in on him, it was basically all in rhythm (other than the time he stepped up in the pocket to avoid the rush and Astorino fell)

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by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought the Dline did a good job

mostly pressure up the middle. There were several times I thought we had him dead to rights and he would either manage to get off a fantastic off-balance pass or just slip past the rush to make a throw. In fact, I remember one time he basically disappeared on screen because of all the lineman around him, only to have him squirt out and make a nice pass.

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by skarocksoi on Jan 20, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

That's my recollection.

Just a slippery perfectly timed step up or laterally here or there and deliver a strike.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

But he was,

Alive, alive, alive and on the inside: Nothing waxed, nothing mummified.

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by SubLime on Jan 20, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Morelli was also invited to the combine, IIRC.

Physical freak college players often get invited to the combine, even if they weren’t very good players in college.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 20, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Like it.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He played but he was buried behind upperclassmen.

Or at least that was what I read.

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by mvrck on Jan 20, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh ok.

I must have misunderstood something I read. I was kind of hoping he had never even played and was going to break out into some ridic superstar once he got a feel for the game.

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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 20, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah.

I think it was more of a “getting his shit together” thing. He supposedly spent all summer with a trainer getting his strength and speed up.

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by mvrck on Jan 20, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He played on the team, just not a lot in the game.

Which is one reason he’s flown under the radar. He was behind some guys that forced him into a reserve role until his senior year.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

That's worrisome

You’d think if he had 1/4 of his dad’s talent, he could have cracked the starting lineup before then without much effort. Unless his team was loaded at every skill spot, that’s a concern that he’s either not very talented or motivated, or (hopefully) just a late bloomer.

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by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you hit the 3 possibilities

But if they like what they saw on the tape, might as well offer him.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That high school coach

Will – and should – never hear the end of that. I mean it’s one thing to play your son over a better player when that other player is D2 level or something…it’s another when the other kid ends up with 2 Lombardi Trophies within 10 years of graduating.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It's another possibility

Though I think it’s easier to start your son over a “Rothlisberger” than the son of Curt Warner.

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by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Have you seen Roethlisberger play football?

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Oops, posted before I said the next sentence

It’d be hard to believe that you could look at him on a practice field and, famous surname or not, determine that the team would be better off with him on the bench.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It's ridiculous that he sat

There’s just probably more pressure (from other coaches, parents, etc.) to start the son of a former NFL star than there is to start the big kid with no pedigree.

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by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Pressure Tactics

If they’re just touching base with kids who are committed to see if they are at all interested, and then leave them alone if shot down, I’m OK with it. But if they’re hounding these kids after being told no initially, I’m not OK with it. I realize that’s how most programs recruit, but it was not how Penn State recruited and it’ll be a big nevative to me if I find out we’ve changed in that way.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 20, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I see what you're saying.

And that’s always been sort of an unwritten rule, in the B1G at least. But the rules/times are changing. Will PSU’s recruiting style change to adapt? I don’t know.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 20, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't draw any conclusions on 2012 recruiting

We have both OSU and PSU getting all new coaching staffs 3/4 of the way through the recruiting period. All bets are off – most players are committed somewhere, and these new coaches need to do their job, so I can’t blame them for kicking tires on other schools’ commits. It’s less negative when you consider that these coaching staffs never “missed their opportunity” on recruiting their new targets, since they weren’t even recruiting when those targets committed to other schools.

But I do agree with you that I hope this type of thing doesn’t continue. If your coaching staff is in place from day one and a kid commits elsewhere, it’s because you didn’t recruit them well enough, and it’s cheap to make a run at them after they’ve committed elsewhere.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

JP Holtz

Is he for sure gone? Leaning towards MSU?

by lexi1031 on Jan 20, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Then he should really get a new pic on scout.com

It’s just rude to wear a PSU hat if you’re not coming here. Haha!

by lexi1031 on Jan 20, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Akeel Lynch's twitter

is a pic of him in an Iowa hoodie with a Packers hat on.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

O'Brien should keep the recruiting net wide

and continue to look in England for defensive ends.

by CyphaPSU on Jan 20, 2012 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

We should start pulling kickers and punters

From soccer academies in England or Australian Rules Football teams in Australia (see: Wing). No reason not to.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 20, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI - John Thomas

Out as strength and conditioning coach – guess there is still one more position to fill.

by phanatic's phloozies on Jan 20, 2012 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Breaking news: Cam Williams commits to tOSU.

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by Paige2PSU on Jan 20, 2012 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not really upset or surprised,

but I’m sure some will be.

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by Paige2PSU on Jan 20, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not really upset....

it’s just a shame because of all the commits, he really seemed like he wanted to come here and recruited other guys to come with him. Seemed almost like a DWill type kid who could transform the next 3 or 4 years.

But I guess if that was really the case, he still could have come to PSU. No hard feelings toward the kid making a decision he thought best……just a tough loss I think for the team.

by GMac14 on Jan 20, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

really wish he had waited until he got to talk to BOB

is this going to be a new thing now? Dread after every time one of our targeted recruits takes a trip to OSU?

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by skarocksoi on Jan 20, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly didn't think I could dislike OSU any more than I did before...

but with Meyer there…it’s just to a different level now.

by GMac14 on Jan 20, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Brutal...

scandal or not this just proves how tough of a job BOB will have recruiting against Urban for the next however many years.

by phanatic's phloozies on Jan 20, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That's disappointing

I liked his enthusiasm for Penn State. Guess it was real or strong enough to counter the lure of Meyer.

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by kijana's acl on Jan 20, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Bummer

I hope Wartman is better though.

by FB6244 on Jan 20, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

seriously

It’s one kid, who I will forever brand a LIAR and SYCOPHANT.

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by WorldBFat on Jan 20, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OSU has to be running out of schollies

even with them dumping the two DBs. Even Urbs has to know the B1G does not oversign (I would be pissed if the B1G starts turning a blind eye to that).

Further, this is an unusual recruiting year as we all know. Calm transition in PSU coaches and we might not be losing kids to other places. Hopefully this is a one-year phenomenon, esp. if BOB can field a really stellar team that wins the CCG while the Suckeyes are home watching that game on TV.

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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Meyer doesn't oversign.

He may be a lot of things shady, but he plays by the rules in terms of scholarships. If he offered them, there’s room somewhere.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Jan 20, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

This

I don’t think he ever over-signed while at FL.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Jan 20, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Cam is still going to meet with BOB next week

I know he just committed to OSU, but he obviously met with Urban when he was committed to PSU. You’d figure he’d at least have the courtesy to do that.

by GMac14 on Jan 20, 2012 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

I will be pessimistic about that point.

Seems we always get shat upon in these scenarios. Wasn’t it Floyd and the 4 am visit? Irritating how people can crap on us, but bend over backwards to listen to other schools — even ones with post-season bans on them.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 20, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I. Williams. ND

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Other than D. Williams

Guess Williams is becoming a bad name around here.

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish he would have waited as well but people need to remember these are 17 and 18 year old kids. Many probably don’t think about the long haul and tend to be swayed by short term things. Even though he committed to OSU I still wish him luck, just not against us.

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Jan 20, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I am sure

The OSU coaches all pressured him …can’t wait any longer. Accept now, or move on. Maybe they did that in a nice sort of way. But you don’t go out there two weeks in a row and not pull the trigger and think they will hold on much longer..

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 20, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

so who hates urban meyer

Cause this guy does

by zernbabyzern on Jan 20, 2012 4:00 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions   1 recs

Man, Urbz is smoking us

But this class was going to get detonated anyway. You don’t have your school’s image thrown in a poop-filled dumpster and lit on fire and broadcast live on every news outlet and get out of it unscathed. Sure Meyer has the bowl ban, but at the he can sell that the end of OSU’s punishment is known, while ours still looms. Plus, he can point to how good USC is right now and be like “see, we’ll be fine.”

We’ll round out with some 3 stars and work on next year. It’s good to hear that the coaches are talking aggressively to people committed elsewhere, because at a minimum it gets them time in the High Schools and with the coaches at those schools to plant the seed for next year.

2012 class gets a mulligan. Win 9 games with a flashy, if inconsistent, revamped offense at the hands of BO’B, and we’re back in biznass.

by SkellerDweller06 on Jan 20, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

Of course.....

Go 7-5 or 6-6 as the offensive players adjust to a new system, deal with the Sandusky trial being front or second page news all season, and maybe sprinkle in one or two more administration officials getting fired due to new info coming out…then yea, LET TEH PANIKS BEGINZ!

by SkellerDweller06 on Jan 20, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Last night's snowstorm

Is it gonna screw up some prospects travel plans or do the guys come in on Friday?

by Nectir on Jan 21, 2012 8:20 AM EST reply actions  

I think most come up on Friday.

If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.

by PaJoe on Jan 21, 2012 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

At least one recruit was delayed.

Was forced to spend last night in Detroit, a punishment I wish on no man.

(I kid. The wife’s family is from The D.)

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 21, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Junny, without destroying the contest,

can you provide any updates on what is happening with the recruits this weekend?

Is it a good sign that Armani has not made an announcement? I know many of us thought Cam and Armani were a package deal, altho, as noted elsewhere, I seem to recall Armani saying this week that wasn’t necessarily so.

BTW, could you or someone else in the know outline what happens on recruit weekends? (Just the legal stuff — LOL.) The only time I was a recruit was at Fort Dix in 1976, and I think the Army processes its people differently than does Penn State. It would be interesting to know how they are met, what meetings they attend, how they are matched up to a current student-athlete, etc., etc. Thanks!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 21, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Still no word out of Penn State, other than some tweets from Da'Quan Davis..

…who appears to be having (ahem) a real good time. The Warners were delayed in Detroit due to weather, but the rest made it safely.

Armani not announcing a new school is good for PSU, but I still wouldn’t get my hopes up. If he still visits next weekend, that’s a good sign. His godfather and pseudo-father figure is none other than Brent Williams, Cam’s dad, so it’ll be difficult to get Armani here without some awkward moments.

On the visits, it’s pretty much what you’d expect from a school trying to court you. The recruits are “hosted” by a current player (have to imagine Adrian Amos is hosting one if not both of the Calvert Hall kids), who shows them around campus, generally hangs out with the recruits, etc. The recruits are given tours of the facilities and meet with the coaches. They’ll meet with the HC (where available, obviously not this weekend) and their position coaches, who give them a general idea of the direction of the team/position/staff.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 21, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

When do they party with the cheerleaders?

Oh wait, thats tOSU, USC, LSU, Florida, Bama, UCLA, Oregon, Miami, etc. etc. etc.

by Nectir on Jan 21, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

The Golden Girls would be the better choice at LSU.

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Jan 21, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Her hands make her look about 80 years old.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 21, 2012 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the update.

Hopefully no news is good news, with all these kids.

DCox is not here, correct? Anything coming from him in the last day or so?

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It's 11:32 CST.

Where are my motherfuckin’ sirens?

"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein

by SubLime on Jan 21, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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