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Remembering Joe Paterno

Joe Paterno has died at age 85. He leaves behind an immense, yet immeasurable legacy. The tiny cow college he came to in 1950 has blossomed into a world class research and academic institution, partially built on the name brand established by Paterno's football teams. He and his wife, Sue, raised millions of dollars for Penn State and a vast array of charitable organizations. A massive, five-story addition to the campus library bears his name thanks to a multi-million dollar donation to Penn State. In the modern football factory world, his players graduated at a rate far beyond that of nearly all other programs. In the staid bureaucracy of college football, he urged and achieved reform.

Behind Joe Paterno's Beaver Stadium statue are the words, "Educator, Coach, Humanitarian." They really could have been arranged in any order. Yes, he won a few football games, and the grand scope of Paterno's educational and humanitarian achievements was not possible without his blossoming football program. It not only changed the lives of those who passed through it, but also of those who were just lucky enough to be around it for few hours on a Saturday afternoon. It brought together people of all types, forging friendships that otherwise never would have existed. It made us feel bigger than we actually were. Paterno believed that his players could succeed on the field and in the classroom. When ordinary students could overcome their starstruck feelings to say hello, Paterno would ask if they were studying and going to class. He believed in all of us, whether we knew it or not.

There are some people that, for whatever reason, never seem like they could ever die. The last time I felt like this, Fred "Mister" Rogers had died in 2003. I was 28 years old, just slightly past my days of watching PBS children's programming. Yet, I never considered a world without Mister Rogers walking through the front door with his huge smile, singing "won't you be my neighbor?", and changing into his cardigan and sneakers. This would happen forever, regardless of the year on the calendar or whether I was sitting in front of the television. It was constant, comfortable, and all that millions of us had ever known.

Joe Paterno would always be there for us too, as an unlikely combination of Fred Rogers and fellow Brooklynite Vince Lombardi. His hair would always be dark and his eyeglasses comically thick. He would run out the tunnel for roughly a dozen Saturdays each autumn, wearing a tie, black shoes, and rolled up khaki pants. Paterno would inevitably show up for spring practices, still looking 20 years younger than his actual age and happily shooting down frivolous media questions like clay pigeons. This had to happen because it had always happened. Just like Fred Rogers, Paterno's presence was reassuring even when times were bad, just like Mr. Rogers' trademark song and cardigan. It was all we had ever known, and a world without him seemed incomprehensible.

Paterno's wisdom, charity, and success -- these are the things that will be remembered. The scandal associated with Jerry Sandusky will remain a murky, dark chapter in an expansive 61-year career and life spent doing so much good for so many people in Happy Valley and beyond. However, this is a day to celebrate, and perhaps even be jealous of a life exquisitely lived on its own terms. A young man from Brooklyn made a choice in 1950 to be a poorly paid assistant coach at a tiny outpost in central Pennsylvania. The course of a university and the lives of millions became undeniably richer for his decision, and regardless of the last few months, Joe Paterno left our little corner of the world an infinitely better place than he found it.

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Well played, sir.

365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 22, 2012 1:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Man, I am going to miss him….. Tough thing to say about someone I have never met.

by rugbyrowe on Jan 22, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Well said

An inevitable day that we all wished would never come.

@Kunk7

by Kunk on Jan 22, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

Very well said.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last"

by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 22, 2012 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

Well written

Could not have said it better. Truly a wonderful man.

by Grockcubs on Jan 22, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

JOE PATERNO:

Part of this http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7487990/joe-paterno-penn-state-legacy-more-scandal I’d like to place highlight here:

Yet a legion of men, who know him much better than any of his critics, continues to defend him. Some are gray of hair and round of stomach, others are younger than Paterno’s five children. All of them wore blue and white. They arose to stand by his side when Paterno no longer could stand up for himself. Paterno was the coach who molded them. He instilled a beacon of light to guide them in their lives. He was the man who made them men.
THE MAN! IS OUR JOE! We are all so blessed to have known/been a partof/share in this truly inspirational Legacy! We Are … PENN STATE !!

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 1:38 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

finally, THANKS

for clearing up the meaning of * Our hankies are in the dryer. You are welcome to all you can use as soon as they are done. VIRTUAL HUG

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at the base of the mountain in Park City

watching my 17-year-old daughter ski, reading it on the blackberry, and had a mobile device fail… Luckily nobody was watching the old guy on the bench tear up.

*

by Smee on Jan 22, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Listening to Coach K's comments now.

Dammit – now I may have to be a Duke basketball fan.

by dontcallmescooter on Jan 22, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

I had the same reaction.

Coach K was spot on with his statements in the interview and alluded to media treatment of Joe. It is good to hear Joe recognized for all the things he did and the man we knew him to be.

by bluegrass_nittany_lion on Jan 22, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

For someone in his situation, an active coach and representative of a school whose finances a partly tied to having good relations with ESPN…he basically cruxified the entire media, including ESPN in particular, and the PSU administration. I couldn’t have been more impressed with Coach K’s guts and honesty.

by PSUCharmas on Jan 22, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Coach K is respected at Duke, but not loved

the way we love JoePa. Just the same, I am sending K an e-mail tomorrow, thanking him for his words about Joe.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

84, PM,

please come see

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Scooter, 84 will post tomorrow. Or you can send your email to him.

His email is in his profile. (PSU_Lions_84’s Wife)

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

mea culpa! mea culpa!

my bad ;}

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Missed it

can anybody sum up what he said??

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Jan 23, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Please post again here. (Todd's)

Others are asking elsewhere and I haven’t been able to locate fanshot. many thanks.

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 23, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Found it

Here

Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".

by Ben16 on Jan 23, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely a Village led by JOE!

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

This.

jealous of a life exquisitely lived on its own terms

Fuck yeah

...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...

by jesse. on Jan 22, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Not jealously

But a sheer desire to better myself. We all know Joe Paterno’s name because of the number of football games he won. But there are a number of coaches who had more MNCs or win percentages, but will never measure up to the Joe Paterno standard. I look up to Joe Paterno because of his loyalty, principals, and commitment to education. He understood that there was something more to life than wins and fame. We will never be as widely know or revered as Paterno. But I do know we can make the choice to live up to his ideals and strive to be as positive as a human being as him. And yes, it will be a huge challenge, but one that is worthwhile undertaking.

by tbs5005 on Jan 22, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

thank you

I’m glad Bama was on the schedule this year. Seems fitting

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Jan 22, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks Junction

Now Joepa and the Bear can sit down, pour a drink, and talk about which play Joe shoulda run on 4 and 1. Would love to listen in on that conversation.

by MB in MI on Jan 22, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

We are all better for having been in his orbit.

Thanks for everything, Joe. You will be loved and missed by Nittany Nation, always.

by michellemtsu on Jan 22, 2012 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry Joe but what you wanted written cannot be...

You didn’t just make Penn State a better place, you made the WORLD a better place.

Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.

by psupride on Jan 22, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I will remember..

How I would meet him on campus and he would stop, say hi and ask how my classes were going
Being chased off the practice field by Joe behind the old Nittany dorms
Shaking his hand in front of Beaver Stadium after the big win against OSU in 1978
But mostly I will remember the pride he instilled in us for being something different
We Are Penn State!

by bluegrass_nittany_lion on Jan 22, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Not to start anything

But Penn Staters standing vigil around the statue are not doing us justice. They’re laughing on their cell phones, milling around with smirks, kinda like they have an inkling of something important but don’t quite get it.

by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 22, 2012 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

So wonderful, Octa.

In fact, I’m going to borrow it, if you don’t mind.

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012

by Paige2PSU on Jan 22, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

By all means

I came up with it, but it’s for everybody.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 22, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Honestly Octa....

I didnt borrow it… I flat out stole it… but I did credit you…. thank you for putting this into words..

All of our comments are irrelevant - LetsGoPSU

by jaytay13 on Jan 22, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Ironically

I am working on a piece about the legacy of JoePa. My cencetration was looking into legacy and identity of historical figures, so I ahve some knowledge on the subject. Unfortunately it will be a bit more academic, which you don’t look lightly on.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin

by AriesGD on Jan 22, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a place for that

But there should really be two different words for these different ideas. “How one is remembered historically” and “the effect and influence one had on the lives of others” are both generally referred to as legacy.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 22, 2012 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

And I agree

It is something I put in my work, that there is several legacies of people, and not one singular legacy.

Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin

by AriesGD on Jan 22, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Perfect

I’m sorry, but blanket statements are proven false 99% of the time, and if you make a blanket statement about college football, there’s a good chance that one exception will be Joe Paterno. - AdamShell @ BSD

Also; Always carry a bottle opener and the beer will provide itself.

by bconway6 on Jan 25, 2012 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

^ This, to infinity and beyond.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

Bought this this morning before I knew

http://www.lions-pride.com/store/COACH!MAIRS/Penn+State+Coach+Joe+Pa+Print

Believe deep down in your heart that you are destined to do great things

by farrellpsu on Jan 22, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

Never met him either

I used to bike to campus most days from my apartment, and detour past their house just to wave. As someone said earlier, he just felt like a family member that I’d never met. His life and death have affected me in ways I’ll probably never begin to understand. For that, he will have my eternal gratitude. I am a better person for having had him as one of my role models.

by smh244 on Jan 22, 2012 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

my grandpa just told me a story

When he was at school back in the late 50’s, Joe would stop by his fraternity and have a beer with everyone before the game. Just found that to be awesome

by lbu828694 on Jan 22, 2012 3:04 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Thanks JoePa

Although we never met, you challenged me to become a better person. As Penn Staters, it is now our duty to meet that challenge and carry-on his legacy.

by tbs5005 on Jan 22, 2012 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

Awaiting Information

Im awaiting information on where and when to make respects. I will host multiple family members/Alumni preparing to make the journey back home since I live the closest.

I hope that the school is prepared because the sheer numbers of people prepared to make the trip is going to be crazy

by airleg1 on Jan 22, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks for the commentary Chris

Rest in Peace to Joe Paterno. My prayers go out to him and his family.

by mundyscorner99 on Jan 22, 2012 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

RIP Joe

My first comment on BSD might as well be one honoring a man of integrity and honor whose legend will stand the test of time.

Goodbye to a Man in Full.

"I'm telling you, y'all created a monster."

by Pure Azure on Jan 22, 2012 4:18 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

It's pretty much impossible to embellish his life and legacy.

That says it all

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 22, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Honor, integrity = JOE Paterno legacy

Pure, welcome to BSD!

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Paterno meant so much to everyone who believes in college sports as a force for good. I hope his example continues to inspire. I wish that Fitz would have gotten another shot at beating him, but I don’t begrudge JoePa #400 or #408.

by nuftw on Jan 22, 2012 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

Even the kids who arent coming to Penn State know what kind of man Joe was

@CamrenWilliams5
RIP JoePa, it was an honor meeting you and developing a relationship with you. You are THE GREATEST coach ever…on and off the field

by lexi1031 on Jan 22, 2012 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

WOW, loving it at our home also!

Where to get it? please

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Many Thanks.

What about the TradeMark?

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

And the Pgh media - bitter, wrong, and small to the end.

Mr. Paterno was instrumental in getting Penn State — an independent for 106 years — into the Big Ten conference. He also was the driving force behind the cancellation of the football series with rival Pitt, which will resume again in 2016 and ’17.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12022/1205338-100.stm#ixzz1kEHxbbEp

Completely unnecesssary, uncalled for, and a complete cheap shot.

by J Breezy on Jan 22, 2012 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

It's also untrue

The series isn’t resuming. It’s just two games. And Joe was not the reason the series ended. The fact that Pitt isn’t worth playing every year is the reason the series ended.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 22, 2012 5:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Really petty

It’s not clear to me that Pitt really cares that much about the series either. It’s a handful of media that pushes it.

Who wrote that crap? Have we flooded them with emails yet. I feel like someone else needs to take over that job. I’m burned out on it.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 22, 2012 5:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Musselman.

But forget the emails. A big part of the reason the Pgh media is so anti-PSU and anti-Joe is because it gets such a reaction. That’s just what they want to sell papers and generate web hits (so they can get more ads). Ignoring them is the best thing to do.

I’ve posted it before and am too lazy to look up the exact numbers, but Pitt went to the Big East in 1982 (and PSU to the Big 10 in 1990…sports in 1993). According to the Pgh media Joe has had a grudge against Pitt since they joined the Big East, yet PSU has played Pitt numerous times since then and are scheduled to play them in a few years – what the heck kind of way is that to hold a grudge???

Woody hays knew how to do it…he would not schedule any schools from Ohio. Never wanted to even give them a chance against the premier program in the state. I’d be ok with PSU doing that, too.

by J Breezy on Jan 22, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Gary Williams did that at MD too

Didnt want to play any DC area teams.

I’m indifferent. Given the way scheduling and the revenue works, we can only schedule a few noncon games on a one-here/one-there contract. Pitt won’t come here more they we go there – fine they have to make money too – but it really doesnt make sense for us to do a one-and-one with them right now. We need to reserve those slots for games that will get a bigger national audience like Bama or USC. Now with the new Pac10 deal, our flexibility is even less. An occasional series with Pitt is ok, I guess.

We can drop Temple too. It’s mostly PSU fans that come but I went to that game this year. $65 for nosebleed seats and we had to listen to that awful owl screech noise. Not worth it.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 22, 2012 6:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That too

But in the long run, I expect that to be rare. Temple should play 1-AA. It would make more sense for them.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

We should really amp this up.

If playing Pitt is about money, then how about a home-and-home for eternity, but the winner keeps all the gate money?

Pitt is such a pathetic loser I think we could all agree to that.

by Ab4PSU on Jan 23, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Pittsburgh could be a great city

It is a great city in many ways. But it’s media is on par with many podunk backwaters. It’s time to move into the 20th century, yinzers.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 22, 2012 6:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Really well-written Chris

Washingtonian and heartbroken Penn Stater -- My blog features the triumph of hope over experience that is being a DC sports fan (especially the Nats) as well as the Nittany Lions, life in BeltwayLand and other things I find interesting. @doubleuefwhy

by WFY on Jan 22, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

Todd Blackledge

is giving a great interview on ESPN. He said that the BOT and media had a part in all of this and it breaks his heart. Said how much he loves Joe.

by PSU_Brian on Jan 22, 2012 6:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Truth in that

Joe’s legacy had been damaged irreparably, his life’s love had been taken from him. There wasn’t much that he could live for, and often those facing dire medical diagnoses fare better knowing they have a purpose.

RIP Joe.

by gcdyersb on Jan 22, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

VIRTUAL HUG & HANKY

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Tearjerker:

“I don’t want anything,” Hali answered. “I just want to tell you I miss you.”

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Jan 23, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Forgot to add:

We’ll ALL miss you, Coach. Whether we knew you personally or not. Thank you for what you have done to make all of us better people because of your example.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"

by NJ lion on Jan 23, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Worth your time to read:

http://www.statecollege.com/news/columns/guest-column-the-paternos-and-the-penn-state-family-987180/
also has a nice picture of Joe and Sue! Well said by T. Shakely

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 22, 2012 7:18 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Great post, sweetheart!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Second this.

Great post, 78.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

aurabass

Thank you so much for all the effort you’ve put into setting the record straight, defending our beloved coach. Though you claim to be a Tennessee fan, to me you’ll always be a great Penn Stater.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

this is pissing me off already

First thing they start with is the fucking scandal

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 22, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed. This seems more a 60 minutes episode.

Then a fitting tribute for someone the day they died.

by mleepsu08 on Jan 22, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes and agreed.

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 22, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but let's hang on

and hope that it gets better . . . .

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

disgusting way to open. Bobby Bowden was surprisingly redeeming. Said he wrote Paterno to apologize for comments in press. Said he was misquoted

by moosepsu on Jan 22, 2012 8:23 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I thought that was interesting too

Doesn’t surprise me that the media would twist his words though.

For anyone not watching, he said that his actual statement was that Paterno said it best when he said that with the benefit of hindsight he wished he had done more, but the media just printed “Bowden thinks Paterno should have done more.”

by ppfcpp on Jan 22, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Keith Jackson

doing a pretty good job of defending Joe and his record.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

actual people seem respectful

media “personalities” seem to be douches (though I guess that is one type of “personality”, just didn’t think that’s what one would strive for)

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 22, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The media are the ones who keep going back to the scandal

No one else wants to talk about it, but the hosts keep bringing it up again.

by ppfcpp on Jan 22, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

^ Truf

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

This, a thousand times. The media members have constantly brought up the scandal and tried to press people into commenting on it while most everyone else has focused on who Paterno was and his accomplishments.

It’s actually pretty amazing the stark contrast.

by Laaaaazzz on Jan 23, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The moment Tom Bradley realized Rece Davis was trying to steer him

And got a very stern resolve in his voice was pretty awesome. Off the record, he’d have probably told Rece to go fuck himself right then.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Very well done . . .

It is a fascinating postmodern phenomenon: They are celebrities because they are celebrities — which in a sense I suppose, makes them walking, talking tautologies.

"I think what the university did to him was grossly wrong" -- Mike Ditka

by SubLime on Jan 23, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

great point

the real people who put in the work as a coach or player required for recognition that led to a position as as media people – as opposed to those who gained their “fame” from a their looks or voice and an ability to make themselves noticed – are far more likely to appreciate Joe’s life work and refrain from taking cheap shots in order to further their careers. The fake people have no real standing or substance that makes their opinion valuable and they are more likely to attract and inspire the anonymous nimrods that spew their defamation all over the internet and in newspaper comments.

The fake people that only exist to read copy gain some symbiotic gravitas by sitting next to the real people and that’s a shame because the real people are so outnumbered.

Born in Fort Sanders - 1st Residence Aconda Court (Alumni Hall) - 1st games at Neyland 1947 - Mother = TORCHBEARER - Dad grad of UT & UT Law + professor BORN ORANGE and BLEED ORANGE .......

by aurabass on Jan 23, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

sometimes I feel regret at my schadenfreude with Tressel & tat-gate,

but then I look at his entire body of work and see that at every level he acted in a way that flaunted the rules to which he was supposed to be constrained. This doesn’t degrade his life’s work outside of coaching football, but it is an indelible stain on his coaching legacy.

Compare that to Paterno: pretty much everything he’s done in every facet of his life has been what can be termed “good”. Sure, he was at times arrogant, petty, and spiteful, but never malicious. People are taking that entire body of work and are willing to throw it out because they think he might have intentionally covered up what Sandusky had done, despite the only known facts of the matter being that he reported the issue at hand through the proper channels. Maybe that wasn’t enough (but only because those to whom he reported it allegedly sat on the information and didn’t act appropriately), but it wasn’t malicious or wrong. (and this doesn’t even begin to address what people think he was supposedly trying to protect)

Even if we’re going to fault him for the moral shortcomings, he still earns at least a C (doing the bare minimum to pass). And for that he is a monster deserving of crucifixion?

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 23, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I merely used Tressel as an example where I did exactly what I am now condemning

I didn’t mean to compare Tressel’s body of work to Joe’s, but to merely point out my own failings and hypocrisy. I feel as though I’ve learned something about getting the media that we deserve through this entire process … and aged quite a bit.

Joe Paterno and Dean Smith remain my only sports heros.

"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13

by kijana's acl on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

As much as it may pain

a lot of people to do this because Duke basketball is on par with the Yankees or ND in that you either love or hate them, I think Coach K needs to be added to that list.

I for one have always admired Duke basketball because I liked Coach K and he reminded me a bit of Joe, and have been called a bandwagon fan numerous times for it.

by va2pennstate on Jan 23, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm starting to come around on Coach K

It takes time to reform opinions. It’s especially hard for a UNC fan of nearly 30 years.

I like to think that I share Smith’s worldview and admire his successes in integrating Chapel Hill and the ACC as much as his successes on the court. Paterno and Smith are pretty similar in other ways as well: they didn’t win it all until well after they could/should have, they “only” won two titles and, most importantly, their legacies extended far beyond the field/court. And as much as I’ll never forget Testaverde to Giftopoulos, I will never forget Brown’s pass Worthy.

"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13

by kijana's acl on Jan 23, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a Maryland alum.

I don’t have to like Duke to appreciate what K. has done for that program and school.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 23, 2012 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I appreciate what he's done for Duke

I just can’t place him on the same level as Paterno and Smith. That’s just personal bias/preference though.

"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13

by kijana's acl on Jan 23, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I regret my schadenfreude anyway

I was a bitch

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 23, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Here ya go, folks.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

The hell with cassarole!!!

I’ll bring Miller Lite, Miller High Life, and Jack Daniels.

by Ab4PSU on Jan 23, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

There is a series of books written by a hilarious women called "The Sweet Potato Queens"

the books are funny stories and recipes are woven throughout. There is a whole chapter called “Funeral Food”. One of the recipes is “Death Chicken”. It talks about how southern people try to out-do each other in the food department when someone dies.

I highly recommend these books. Divas will be interested in something called “The Promise” which will get a guy to do anything you want.

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 23, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It is a great series of books.

The Sweet Potato Queens actually exist. They all live in and around Jackson, MS.

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012

by Paige2PSU on Jan 23, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

we should go to the parade Paige!

I emailed Jill O’Connor once about college FB and she emailed me back!

She was right when she said every women needs to wear a tiara for at least five minutes a day, it really DOES make you feel better (I am wearing mine now)

Also, this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzH53LbshmY

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 23, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on down!

Jackson’s only a few hours away. The parade is on Sat. March 17 this year!

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012

by Paige2PSU on Jan 23, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously, BTN, stop it.

His life wasn’t defined by the scandal. Even though that’s the freshest on everyone’s minds, just STOP IT NOW.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 22, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously.

Honor the man, stop trying to make it about more than that.

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 22, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Any doubts the B1G hates PSU?

Not after watching 20 minutes of this garbage

by moosepsu on Jan 22, 2012 8:24 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

I just posted a rant in the 'media' thread in the fanposts

I will NEVER forgive them for this. I will not watch anything but Penn State games on this network for as long as I live. FUCK THE BTN!!!

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

They bring in a beat writer from PITTSBURGH!!?!?!?

That’s it, I turned it off. I’ll never listen to those disgusting asshats again.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

sigh, I really wanted to watch a tribute to JoePa

this is sickening me. Good job at pulling a Laurenaitis, BTN.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 22, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This is pathetic.

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 22, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Deleted the recording and switched back

to the Giants-49ers game.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Seriously. I turned it on when they were recapping his career and thought it might be good

Then they immediately changed the focus.

Also, the BTN said, with regards to Joe’s actions with the scandal “he turned the information over to his superiors, but other than that he did nothing.” Are you kidding me BTN? What a terrible way to phrase that to make him look worse.

by ppfcpp on Jan 22, 2012 8:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They keep misquoting him too.

He never said “I should have done more.”

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 22, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Same. The BTN are an embarrassment.

This is not a time to debate this shit. It is a time to pay tribute to Joe.

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 22, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The True Believer pipe dream goes something like this

Five years from now Spaniers’ memoirs come out and he relates how, to his great regret, he mislead JoePa for years as to the progress of the Sandusky investigation after tiring of Joe’s constant harranging on the subject. Just the look of Joe’s furrowed brow and stony-eyed stare, he says, caused him scores of sleepless nights as he continued to delude the venerable coach so unfaithfully.Yet in the book’s final chapter he insists the governor assured him this was all in the University’s “best interest”.

ESPN, having been purchased from Disney by the now-gazzilionaire Glen Beck in the weeks preceding the publication of Spanier’s shocking expose`, goes on record with a detailed admission of it’s conspiratorial role in attacking JoePa, Penn State, and anything rhyming with Nittany, and goes so far as to suggest they knew some of their information was coming from then-DA Linda Kelly, now serving 15-20 for conspiracy, fraud, and just being a very bad girl.

A 5 year honororiam is conducted on Joe Paterno Field at Beaver Stadium for Coach Paterno in conjunction with the Nittany Lion’s celebration of their 3rd National Championship following a sweep of the innagural 4 game NCAA Division I Paterno Playoff Classic that replaced the BCS in deciding the Div I national champion. Even the media wore white, and the glow from the stadium could be seen from Pittsburgh…

Or something like that……

In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them

by PSUMarine78 on Jan 22, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

From your keyboard to

God’s screen, please, 78!!

Lord, please make this dream come true for all of us. Thank you! Amen.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I'm a true believer.

For me, I don’t need to find out that Joe was misled for years. Joe asked McQuery, repeatedly, if he was alright with ‘it.’ He gave McQuery several opportunities to tell him that it wasn’t being handled correctly. What I would like to know is why McQuery never raised Joe’s suspicion. What I really want to know is what Curley and Schultz told Mike AND his father AND Dranov that prevented them from pressing it further. To me, by following up with Mike repeatedly weeks and months later, Joe was already absolved.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah I agree

But unless someone or something spells it out in unmistakable, unquestionable terms….in other words takes absolute blame, no one (media) is going to listen or give a damn. I want to hear someone, I don’t really care who, say publicly, “it wasn’t Joe, it was my doing”.

In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them

by PSUMarine78 on Jan 22, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh!!!

His biggest lesson was that he wished he had done more!?!? Really?

Also, Jim Delany, you do not get to comment on Joe Paterno. STFU!!

by lexi1031 on Jan 22, 2012 8:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nor do Lackey and the other

boot-licking officials who disgraced our alma mater.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

They don't call it

the BigTurd Network for nothing

In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them

by PSUMarine78 on Jan 22, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It's up to us.

As someone noted, WE are Joe’s legacy — let’s live up to the example JoePa set for us.

WE ARE PENN STATE — not those talking heads who admire nothing but their own pictures on the screen.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I never expected ESPN to be more respectable than the BTN.

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 22, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The BTN really does not understand its audience right now.

Do they think anyone other than Penn State/JoePa fans are going to be watching this “tribute”? Most sports fans are gonna be watching the NFCCG, and others are either not going to care, or not want to watch a tribute to a man they think is a monster. Way to piss off your audience right now.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 22, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

I just emailed them.

It was not kind. I told them the half of it I could bear to watch disgusted me, that I’ll NEVER watch anything but PSU games on that network again, and that they should issue an apology to the Paternos, Penn State fans, and fans of human decency everywhere.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is the email address on their site?

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 22, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Just went to the 'contact us' page on the website.

You’re limited to 50 characters. Make them count.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLZ.

I guess it was more than 50. Maybe it was 500. I don’t know. I just know I ran out way too fast.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Their email address format is

FirstName.LastName@btn.com

Mark Silverman is the President
I assume his email is Mark.Silverman@btn.com

Elizabeth Conlisk is the VP of Communications and University Relations
I know her email is Elizabeth.Conlisk@btn.com

I plan on using the communication channels made available to BTN Fan Council members to voice my displeasure.

Do internet trolls live under internet bridges?

by stp147 on Jan 22, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Good plan

Maybe alao contact somebody at PSU to let them know the BTN butchered it and fans noticed. The BigTen is a membership organization. They have to listen to their members.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 22, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't want to be pessimistic

today of all days, but the conference has crapped on us since Day One. I will not provide examples or rant further — today . . ..

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You can also reach Elizabeth Conlisk by phone at

(312) 665-0726

Do internet trolls live under internet bridges?

by stp147 on Jan 22, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Please let us know if you get a reply.

by dontcallmescooter on Jan 23, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate the "monopoly" that certain media outlets have for games.

I don’t want to support ESPN by watching their live broadcasts of Penn State, and now I don’t even really want to watch the BTN.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 23, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Necessary evil

They pay dearly for that monopoly. And that money makes it possible for Penn State to have one of the best if not the best athletics program in America. And, contrary to popular belief, those sports programs support and augment the educational mission, not detract from it. All of that is largely paid for by the revenue football brings in from tv. The basketball teams also have a lot of tv money on their ledgers thanks to the Big Ten deals with BTN and ESPN, but PSU wouldn’t have been admitted to the BigTen if not for the football program, so that money could be counted as football revenue.

I’m hoping that in the future, tv and the Internet will merge and we’ll be able to buy access to PSU sports programming directly.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 24, 2012 12:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I really can't wait for the inevitable PPV programming

They could charge semi-absurd amounts and it will still save me money cuz I wouldn’t have to subscribe to certain packages I only watch for about 8 games a year.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 24, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Well done and

encourage others to do the same. I’m glad they don’t offer BTN here in Virginia even though it deprives me of a few games a year; have heard nothing but negatives about that enterpri$e.

In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them

by PSUMarine78 on Jan 22, 2012 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

They do offer it in VA

I have it… don’t watch it except when games are on…

Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson

by belbijou on Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you for speaking up for us!

Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson

by belbijou on Jan 23, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Its just like the shit TheOnion decided to run with earlier

popping off about Doctors informing their superiors about his death tomorrow. I nearly dog cursed out a friend of mine that linked to it, and said she’s entitled to her opinion and it has nothing to do with me. While I may not have played football, I did attend the university, I did run into him once on campus, and while he may not have affected my life personally I am a member of the Penn State family and it affects all of us in the family.

by cmdpsu15 on Jan 22, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Another pic.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

I gave up my cable when the season ended

I’ll sign up again next year.
It’s not a bad way to live. I recommend it.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 22, 2012 9:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

But I need the cooking channels

to create those yummy casseroles, RJM!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You kids.

I’m lucky to be able to find my way here . . . .

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I posted a link in the fanshots

that you can use to sign Joe’s guestbook and leave a personal message.

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for doing so, 02.

Nice way for us to communicate with the family.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

That was really well written and just, perfect.

by FB6244 on Jan 23, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Westboro Church

says they will picket Joe’s funeral.

I’m a Christian, and shouldn’t judge, but Westboro seems to be made up of bigoted haters who do NOT represent Christ’s love and compassion.

I have tons of meetings late this week, but am seriously thinking of driving to SC, esp. if these haters are going to show up. I may need bail money if I do . . .

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

I got your back on the bail

But is a carry permit issued in Va valid in Pa? I think I may need that.

In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them

by PSUMarine78 on Jan 22, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

IDK, 78.

I’m preparing my insanity defense.

Shall I pick you up on my drive from North Carolina?

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

In all seriousness

am checking schedules and with a friend who has rotary wings available about making the trip, though may be long legs for his helo.

In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them

by PSUMarine78 on Jan 22, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

It's an eleven hour drive for me,

altho I’ll go to my Mom’s near Williamsport then head to SC.

Like Tailgate just posted, it all depends on when the services are . . . .

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

OK westboro baptist church is really anything but...

If you look at their membership, its 80% lawyers… and they have been known to be lawsuit happy… so dont attack em… in front of witnesses…

I hate everything about these guys, especially since they picketed their first soldiers funeral..

All of our comments are irrelevant - LetsGoPSU

by jaytay13 on Jan 22, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true

They pretty much invite people to attack them so they can file lawsuits.

If they picket this, they’re going to need personal police guards. Because there may be literally tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of people at this. There’s a good chance they won’t be able to file a lawsuit if a group gets fed up with their shit.

by ppfcpp on Jan 22, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You're exactly right

I was half-venting over my disgust for these people. We’ve (military) had alot of dealings with them showing up at funerals of our wartime KIAs, claiming God took them because there are gays in military. Sheer lunacy, but they are very savvy when it comes to their legal rights. They are better shamed than smacked.

In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them

by PSUMarine78 on Jan 22, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

they are the KKK under a different name

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 23, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

If I remember correctly,

The last time Westboro said they were going to picket in central PA was the funeral for the Amish children who died. They ended up not protesting, mainly due to threats on their lives from people in the area. I’m not suggesting anyone do this, but something tells me they won’t end up protesting this one either.

by ppfcpp on Jan 22, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Funny how righteous resolve breaks down in the face of honor

In God we trust. Everyone else, keep your hands where I can see them

by PSUMarine78 on Jan 22, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This
Westboro seems to be made up of bigoted haters who do NOT represent Christ’s love and compassion

.any relationship between Westboro and Christian compassion is purely accidental as seems to happen with extremists who base their beliefs on fear and hatred – an extreme contradiction in conscience that is Fundamentally flawed and fraudulent.

If you want to galvanize support for the object of a protest the Phelps family is the obvious choice.

Born in Fort Sanders - 1st Residence Aconda Court (Alumni Hall) - 1st games at Neyland 1947 - Mother = TORCHBEARER - Dad grad of UT & UT Law + professor BORN ORANGE and BLEED ORANGE .......

by aurabass on Jan 22, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Westboro Baptist ain't gonna do shit!!!

They were supposed to be at the Nebraska game and weren’t.

If they show up for Joe’s funeral, I’ll be there with railroad spikes and chains.

Guaranteed.

by Ab4PSU on Jan 23, 2012 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

the only reason they have "church" in their title is for the tax benefits

and KKK, Skinheads and Nazi’s were already taken

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 23, 2012 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If the service

is on Friday night/Saturday, I’m heading to State College.

365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
http://www.blognamedbrew.blogspot.com/

by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 22, 2012 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

A lot of will.

"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."

by MainLion on Jan 22, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Good night, and God bless all.

May He give us peace in the midst of all this turmoil.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 22, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

wearing white shirt and blue tie to work tomorrow

… a small tribute to our beloved joepa

by moosepsu on Jan 22, 2012 10:26 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

I teared up while reading this.

Couldn’t have been more eloquently put, thank you for this post.

by RossingtonCollins on Jan 22, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

truely a sad day

he was a great man and a great role model. I don’t think I ever expected this day to come.

by t1mmy10 on Jan 23, 2012 1:46 AM EST reply actions  

Here's what Bielema and Alvarez had to say.
Statement from Wisconsin Director of Athletics Barry Alvarez:
“Today is a sad day. Joe made a difference. He impacted a lot of people. He made a difference in a community, in a college and in college football. He was truly special and an icon. For someone to continue to do what he did through different generations and for such a long period of time and be effective was amazing. I’ve considered Joe a friend and a mentor. This is sad day for college football and the Penn State community. Our thoughts and prayers go out to them and the Paterno family.”

Statement from Wisconsin head football coach Bret Bielema:
“Coach Paterno obviously did so many wonderful things for a number of years, not only with the success of his teams on the field but the number of lives he shaped. I hope people remember his lifetime achievements. From day one, when I joined the head coaching ranks and was fortunate enough to cross paths with him at coaches meetings and various functions, he was always very engaging and complimentary of the way we did things at Wisconsin and how we played. I enjoyed competing with him at every level. Our Badger football family sends our condolences and deepest sympathies to the Penn State community and the Paterno family.”

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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 23, 2012 7:58 AM EST reply actions  

Hardest Monday morning in a long time...

I couldn’t get away with wearing Penn State apparel to work today (I’d be fired), so I’m doing the next best thing I can do and have on a Penn State blue shirt and a blue and white tie.

Damnit, I can’t even imagine what opening day in 2012 is going to be like, after the Board and media realize how screwed up they’ve been and the rest of us see the team come onto the field for the first time.

Joe’d hate it, because he never sought glory, but I hope Penn State either does a black shoes logo on the field or has an actual pair of black shoes on the sideline where Joe will always be.

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 23, 2012 9:22 AM EST reply actions  

Even though the black unis would be awesome.

That day should be a happy day. That’s our opportunity to show that the legacy lives on.

Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson

by belbijou on Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Such a sad final chapter

I had the fortune of meeting Joe years ago. I was a huge fan of his, reading everything I could get my hands on about him. I learned about him from my Dad and he used to tell me that this Coach did things the right way. I was only around 8 years old & I really didn’t know what he meant by that .I was a big fan of #22 John C. As time went by I finally understood what my Dad meant. I got into coaching hs football because I wanted to give something back and to be like Joe. The 1st couple of times I met him I was so dam scarred. He wasn’t the soft quiet nice guy I thought he was but that was how he was on the practice field. It was his office and I quickly learned that he had another side. He was recruiting one of my players one year and I had the opportunity to talk about 10-15 minutes with him one on one when the player was called to my office on the PA. Typical Joe, he wanted to wait until the period was over smh. He was an amazing man, we talked about a lot of stuff he was so smart so knowledgable on so may topics. He also had a good sense of humor too. I know I am rambling on but I am holding back tears. Joe was not a saint, he made mistakes, he did things wrong sometimes but he was as good a man as I have ever had the opportunity to meet. He did so much for so many people. It’s a shame what happened with the scandal, the media couldn’t wait to try and destroy an icon and make names for themselves. It’s also a shame the way the school handled him as well. He did so much good for them and to be treated like that- sad. There is no doubt members of that board had vendettas against him and saw the opportunity to strike back. Sorry to ramble it was not my purpose to say negative things but to say goodbye to Joe. RIP Coach Joe, my sympaties to the family and Sue.

by NJDeadhead on Jan 23, 2012 9:46 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Lost productivity

I’d love to see research on how much productivity Penn State alums have lost at work over the last 2+ months.

by speedomike on Jan 23, 2012 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

A lot

the day after they fired joe and really the whole week after the scandal I couldn’t do anything at work. Of course, thats assuming I did anything to begin with.

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by skarocksoi on Jan 23, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I had a really hard time that week.

I’m not accomplishing much today either. I’m just reading everything at Black Shoes Diaries and then switching to reading some Orioles stuff when I need to be cheered up (when the Orioles cheer you up, you know you’re in a bad place).

by Tezcatlipoca on Jan 23, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

We're all lucky to still have jobs!

Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson

by belbijou on Jan 23, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

More true than you know

I had rearranged my cube so that I could see the entrance to my cube and my computer at the same time right around Nov 2 or 3, It needed to be cleaned and it’s been the same for 2 years, on the 4th I found out my co-worker was being let go for “budgetary concerns”. Then it happened and I spent all day checking twitter/BSD on Monday and most of Tuesday trying to keep up. On Wednesday I found a little sticky note that said something along the lines of “Did you rearrange your cube to try to hide the fact that you browse the internet instead of doing work?”

Well, I was certainly shitting my pants. Thankfully it wasn’t my manager. I never figured out who it was, but he never mentioned it in an informal chat about my co-worker so I’m pretty sure it was just another cube-jockey with terrible timing for a little jab.

I’m sorry, but blanket statements are proven false 99% of the time, and if you make a blanket statement about college football, there’s a good chance that one exception will be Joe Paterno. - AdamShell @ BSD

Also; Always carry a bottle opener and the beer will provide itself.

by bconway6 on Jan 25, 2012 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

For me?

All of it.

I’ve been waaaay distracted.

365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 23, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be afraid to find out.

I know mine has taken a more than healthy hit.

I’m sorry, but blanket statements are proven false 99% of the time, and if you make a blanket statement about college football, there’s a good chance that one exception will be Joe Paterno. - AdamShell @ BSD

Also; Always carry a bottle opener and the beer will provide itself.

by bconway6 on Jan 25, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

RIP Joe

Thank you for all you did for the Penn State family.

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jan 23, 2012 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you BSD Family

It’s Monday morning here in LA, CA, and it’s raining hard, not quite the “white out” tribute that I saw last night in State College, but nonetheless fitting for the types of weather we get here in CA. Heaven gained a legend, but us mortals are still crying in anguish for loss of a great man.

I’m trying to get through my work emails, but I keep breaking down. I wish others around me knew how I feel, but if I try to explain what JoePa meant to me and my family, they would think I am a fanatic. That’s why at a time like this, I’m especially grateful for my BSD family.

by ssd on Jan 23, 2012 12:29 PM EST reply actions  

Public Memorial Service Announced

http://www.centredaily.com/2012/01/23/3063215/funeral-arrangements-for-joe-paterno.html

Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson

by belbijou on Jan 23, 2012 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

Darn

was hoping for Saturday. will need to juggle some things now.

365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 23, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Not ideal is it?

And we’re definitley not going to fit. Do you think public pressure will make them open the stadium? I’ll go shovel it, if that’s the problem.

Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson

by belbijou on Jan 23, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta think

the family didn’t wanna wait until Saturday because they want to get it all over and done with as soon as possible. I know that’s how it was with my grandmother and great grandfather. To ask Sue and the rest of the family to wait until SAturday would be hard.

by va2pennstate on Jan 23, 2012 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

Schedule conflicts at BJC for full weekend. No doubt why the date.

Just gracious of the family to have a service open to the public.

by be4time on Jan 23, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been doing that for the most part of the last 3ish months. I’ll be happily surprised if I return from work this evening to still see my PSU flag hanging on my house. As an aside – thank you for all you’ve done and do here. It means a lot to me, especially living in enemy territory.

by dwlion on Jan 23, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Boycott

You need to never listen to such stations and consider boycotting their advertisers.

I’ve all but stopped listening to sports talk radio. So little of it has any value and a lot of it is just thinly veiled racism, homophobia, and misogyny.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 24, 2012 1:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Chris's post and this message board are the only things I have read about Joe since the news broke.

And it is all that I probably will read or listen to. Praise from people who only recently were tearing him down will simply cause deep anger, and that’s an emotion I do not want to feel right now. I have “known” Joe Paterno for more than four decades, first as a student and then as an alumni and fan. I do not need television retrospectives or bloviated articles from people who collectively have not benefited the world to the extent that Joe did, in order to help me know and understand Joe Paterno.

I already know. I already understand. We all do.

Dammit. I’m crying . . . again.

by CvilleLion on Jan 23, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Nice job and thank you

I wanted to thank everyone who posts to this site. Sometimes I feel that it “talks me down from the ledge”. I was born and raised PSU – my family is 4 generations PSU, parents married on campus, 5 siblings are penn staters…and there’s more. I feel like i have been walking around in a dark haze the last couple months, but especially the last day. But every post reminds me that I am not alone. Of course I already knew this being a Penn Stater but you get my point right?! WE will get through this and WE will rebuild for WE ARE PENN STATE!!

by PSUforever93 on Jan 23, 2012 6:36 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

everytime I stop crying, I see something like this

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 23, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah i know. i keep finding these things.

i haven’t cried. but this week with all of the ceremonies and such. it will likely strike with fury.

by tlrpsu on Jan 23, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

are you made of stone?

I was crying in the airport in Fargo, on the plane, in my hotel in Chicago and on the plane home. Then on the drive home. And all night. And most of today, when I was not in a meeting or on a conference call. And now.

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 23, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

no

i just refuse to let it hit me

by tlrpsu on Jan 23, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad Week

My 85 year old Grandpa just passed on today under similar circumstances while fighting cancer. Sad week.

You find out life's this game of inches. And so is football.

by BleedingBlue4Psu on Jan 23, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Very sorry to hear that BB4PSU

That’s more grief than any person should carry in one week. Hang in there, and prayers for you and your family.

by CvilleLion on Jan 23, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

My condolensces

I hope you’re able to find some measure of peace in these days

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 24, 2012 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Media, Trustees, and Chemo responsible for JoePa's death

After the presstitutes crucified Paterno, the spineless board of trustees kicked him to the curb, then the quack doctors that make a living selling IV mustard gas derived poison to cancer patients, finished him off. Stress, loss of his life’s mission (PSU football), and cancer remedies that only enrich witch doctors, and kill patients, did in one of college football’s. legendary coaches. Like I stated before, the board of trustees, and media wh*res should be held accountable. PSU belongs to the students, and I believe that it was their decision to make about their football coach. The spirit of Joe Paterno lives on, with the student body of Penn State.

by pink panther on Jan 23, 2012 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Easy there chief

Unless you know details of his treatment, you shouldn’t be accusing somebody of malpractice or murder. That would be a bit like accusing people of knowing about a child molester when there is no evidence that they did. Not ok.

I’m sure Joe was under a lot of stress and that certainly doesn’t help one’s health. But he did not die of a broken heart. He died of complications from lung cancer.

All people die. It’s a fact of life. Cancer kills a lot of people regardless of how hard they fight it. Modern medicine also cures a lot of people. The outcome’s are determined by thousands of variables, most of which are outside the patient’s or doctors’ control. Many of the variables are still poorly understood. That’s why we should give to THON.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 24, 2012 12:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Cancer kills alot of people, because they dohn't want to cure it

Cancer is curable, but the FDA has blocked therapies and treatments because they do not profit big pharma. Doctors main just treat symptoms, profiting off of illness. Just google the work of Royal Rife, who cured cancer with electromagnetic frequencies. He was sued by the head of the FDA, and his equipment was confiscated. And there are others, like Jason Vale who cured his cancer with apricot seeds, also placed in prison for 5 years for selling seeds on the internet.
The only variables that are poorly understood is a gullible American public that has been donating money for 50 or more years to groups like the American Cancer Society, only to watch their relatives die from cancer, with lame excuses given. If you did your research, reed john miller, you would know what you are talking about. Why don’t you start with a google search on those who worked in the cancer industry, discussing how much of a profit making business it is to them, and why they don’t wnt any cancer cures. WAKE UP!.

by pink panther on Jan 24, 2012 12:54 AM EST reply actions  

Sorry, not buying it

You’re barking up the wrong tree. I’ve covered FDA and write about medicine for a living. I’ve published tons of articles on the medical device and drug industry. I’ve been to countless medical meetings and FDA panels.

Cancer is not my specialty but I’m not some gullible sap. Don’t talk down to me.

Your conspiracy theories hold no water. Show me the science behind your apricot seed hypothesis and I’ll be happy to have an open mind about it. But if there’s no science – and i suspect there isn’t. One guy’s anecdote isn’t science – I’m happy to see charlatans selling false hope and snake oil go to jail.

Nobody trusts the pharma industry less than me. A lot of them would sell crack to kids if they could get away with it. But you’re making a common mistake. The pharma companies aren’t frauds. They’re more like extortionists or kidnappers. They have something that people need badly and can charge a fortune for it. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t work.

And FDA is unfairly maligned. I know a lot of those people. They’re good people working absurd hours for relatively low wages. If they don’t ask for enough clinical proof, the drugs will kill somebody and they get blamed. If they ask for a lot, the companies team up with the patient groups and accuse them of obstruction. They can’t please everyone do they do their best.

I’ll stop. I’ve heard all of this shit before. Try selling it somewhere else.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 24, 2012 1:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry

“Nobody trusts the pharma industry less than I do.”

Grammar!!

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 24, 2012 1:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The electromagnetic frequency cure has been debunked.

And selling anything as a cure for cancer – without studies to back up the claim – is going to land you in hot water.

"WHY IS EVERYONE THE FREAKING STUPID?" BMAN13

by kijana's acl on Jan 24, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Electromagnetic Frequencies!!!

Are you a hot, single lady?

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by WorldBFat on Jan 24, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

PhD in Biochemistry

but I don’t need that to debunk you. The fact that you think cancer is one disease curable by one method is all I need to know that you don’t understand what you are talking about.

by The JuggerNitt on Jan 24, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

\biochemisted

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 24, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

YAY for Smart People!

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012

by Paige2PSU on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

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