are some in the media having second thoughts?

by psume06 on Jan 22, 2012 7:11 PM EST

I will not justify this with a link, because I do not want to drive anyone to the media, outside of BSD and 247, which are the two places I have not found blind hatred in the past two months.

That said, there is something to be said for Pat Forde and his article at yahoo (I was only there to check on Bowman's stats, because I want him to DEMOLISH people today). Anyway, after the jump is a line from Forde's article that makes me wonder if people are starting to rethink how they treated Joe...

"A great many Americans are unmoved by Paterno’s passing, having soured on the man for his insufficient response at a time when children were in danger. But a great many of us also have failed when our character was called upon. Like JoePa, we wish we would have done more, and done the right thing more often. Like JoePa, we will take those regrets with us to the grave."

How many people in the media will look at their actions over the last two months and carry those regrets to their graves? I really can't say - I believe most of them are heartless shitbags, and they have no regrets - but there are times, like reading this account from Forde, where I think that, maybe, somewhere out there, people realize what went wrong, and perhaps that they were part of it.

Maybe that's just me, but I'm hopeful that people will start turning, and we can all remember what a great coach and man Joe Paterno was.

Godspeed, Coach.

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Having a hard time finding forgiveness for any of those "journalists"

You can’t generate pageviews by tearing down his life’s work in one week, only to jump on the memorial train the moment he passes.

Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.

by 06Lion on Jan 22, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions

Oh, I'm not forgiving...

I loathe every one of these scumbags. But my hope is that maybe they’re realizing what they did, and maybe one or two will be better the next time around.

"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Jan 22, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Apparently the Big Ten Network is not.

They had an opportunity to make amends. Instead they are RUINING IT. They are making it mostly about the scandal, and continue to VILIFY HIM WITHOUT CAUSE. They even butchered the ‘In hindsight I wish I had done more’ quote! FUCK THE BTN!!! They’ve now joined ESPN for me – I’ll watch for games ONLY. FUCK THEM!!!

by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 22, 2012 8:24 PM EST reply actions

Glad I wasn't watching, and glad I got a warning before I watch the rerun at 11.

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Jan 22, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions

Agree.

I watched the entire show and was appalled by it. Especially Dinardo…he was terrible. That entire show was a low blow and a cheap shot to Joe, his family, and Penn State. Despicable….the hosts and the producers should be ashamed of themselves.

The only redeeming parts were Bobby Bowden and Keith Jackson. And why they ever brought on the former reporter for the Pgh Press, a rag that’s been out of business for 20 years!, is beyond my comprehension. Heck, I don’t even remember that guy and I’ve been reading the Pgh sports pages since the early 70s!

by J Breezy on Jan 23, 2012 6:09 AM EST up reply actions

Who the Eff is Dinardo?

I couldn’t give half a shit about this guy before, why would his opinion mean anything to me now?

Dinardo would deliver his soul on a platter to have half of the career or relevance that Paterno had. You cant put Dinardo’s name in the same paragraph as Joes. Strike that… he’s not even in the same section of the library.

Joe has forgotten more good things that he’s done in his life than Dinardo will ever do ten fold.

I’ve never heard anyone say “Man, Gerry Dinardo really changed my life for the better”.

Lets look at the facts:

Dinardo never won anywhere. Anywhere. He’s really familiar with being fired though.

Gerry Dinardo, let me take this opportunity to tell you to go fuck yourself.

And if you ever have the chance to visit Pennsylvania… stay home. We dont want you here.

"Heaven hired THE best coach ever".

Paul Jones

by The Heel on Jan 27, 2012 1:41 AM EST up reply actions

Fuck not only the BTN, but the B1G as a whole.

Run.

by Bob Sacamano on Jan 23, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Joe will get an apology after the Duke Lacrosse team and Gary Condit get theirs

by tzuker on Jan 22, 2012 8:42 PM EST reply actions

And maybe after Jim Boeheim actually gets some grief?

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Jan 22, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions

I thought Jack McCallum's article on si.com was pretty good. And fair.

It’s here if you’re interested.

"I guess we had a couple of Catholics praying for US!" - JVP, after the down to the wire win over Notre Dame in 1987

by icavalera on Jan 22, 2012 8:58 PM EST reply actions

I think Joe would have forgiven them – and said that our primary focus should be on the victims. The harm that some of the hack journalists have done cannot be undone, but for those who are introspective enough to take a second look at their actions – I will give them a second chance.

by dontcallmescooter on Jan 22, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions 3 recs

Sadly, if Penn State’s and Paterno’s images are to be turned around, we will need them. If they can be convinced, perhaps others can as well.

by dontcallmescooter on Jan 22, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions

This is true.

That doesn’t mean I’ll forgive them. I truly believe they made today happen earlier than it needed to. They cannot be let off the hook for that.

-J.V.Pa.

by psume06 on Jan 22, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions

My Dog will grow wings and fly before I forgive that piece of shit Bernstein.

"Heaven hired THE best coach ever".

Paul Jones

by The Heel on Jan 27, 2012 1:42 AM EST up reply actions

And while I realize its pretty extreme...

If Bernstein was on fire I’m not saying I wouldnt urinate on him to put him out… Because I would only urinate on the parts of his body that were not on fire.

"Heaven hired THE best coach ever".

Paul Jones

by The Heel on Jan 27, 2012 1:43 AM EST up reply actions

Two thoughts

I read the whole column earlier.

(1) I’m not ready to concede the premise that Joe’s character “failed when called upon.” The proclamation by Joe (“I wish I’d done more”) is still being used as a weapon against him, rather than what I believe it to be — a leader reflectively trying to take some responsibility not for anything specific, but for the situation generally. I strongly believe it was a magnanimous gesture on Joe’s part — something he didn’t have to say — but now remains as one of the few swords the media possess to continue to run him through.

(2) The paragraph that precedes the one you posted essentially says that State College (and Penn State) has been stuck in 1968 and that (somehow…he doesn’t say) allows somebody like Sandusky to get away with it. So…yeah, that’s the kind of condescension that has so endeared the media to us Penn State fans.

by Jitterbug on Jan 22, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions

JoePa quote was correct

He knew he had not met the standards he had set for himself and others. He took responsibility on some level. Yet everyone is so conditioned to believe that lying and denying is the correct response that they viewed it as an admission of guilt and ran with it.

My perception in the BOT saw it as accepting some responsibility—not the right corporate bs response. Hence the brutal, swift firing of Joe.

by gcdyersb on Jan 22, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions

I completely agree

with your first statement.

by FB6244 on Jan 23, 2012 9:07 AM EST up reply actions

I don't think the media have hated Joe for a long time and still do.

So no, I don’t think there’s much regret or second thoughts out there at all.

However, I did like this article. There are some good quotes from former players. I especially liked what Montecalvo said about how the media really didn’t know him.

http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/story11/01-23-2012-Paterno-reaction

by J Breezy on Jan 23, 2012 7:33 AM EST reply actions