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Black Shoe Diaries Podcast: Goodbye, Joe

STATE COLLEGE, PA - JANUARY 24: Students leave notes on a cardboard cutout of former Penn State Football coach Joe Paterno in the Pattee and Paterno Libraries on the campus of Penn State on January 24, 2012 in State College, Pennsylvania. Paterno, who was 85, died due to complications from lung cancer on January 22, 2012. (Photo by Patrick Smith/Getty Images)

Joe Paterno will be buried today at a private funeral in State College, yet none of this seems real or final. From a personal standpoint, it began to set in when I watched this video (produced by Ben Jones) and saw a fuzzy clip of Paterno walking his children down a quiet State College street. The true hammer fell last night, after reading a tweet from a student who tried to pay her respects after the viewing had concluded, only to see Sue Paterno bending forward to kiss her husband's coffin.

Thankfully, I read that after Kevin and I recorded the podcast, because "almost cried at the 17:00 mark" would have turned into "bawled like a baby, please burn the audio file now". We talk about Joe's passing, how Twitter and the news media failed us, and how Penn State finds a way to reintegrate Joe Paterno back into the football program as we move forward.

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Goodbye, Joe

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What!?

Morgan Freeman is dead? WHEN WILL IT END?

I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
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by skarocksoi on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

For an indication of where I'm at

I almost broke down mid-alma mater.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Jan 25, 2012 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Joe was mentioned during the Pats game btw

Mostly in the context of BOB taking over the PSU HC job. It was just something quick though.

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by skarocksoi on Jan 25, 2012 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks

Figured there was a very good chance I missed it, but I did see about 95% of the non-halftime broadcasts, so I was confused.

by Kevin Powers on Jan 25, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah it wasn't anything too in-depth

they just showed BOB and talked about how he was taking over for Joe and everything else.

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by skarocksoi on Jan 25, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.

by 06Lion on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks guys.

Looking forward to getting past this, obviously.

I think the first thing I saw after we stopped recording was something like “that was difficult.” It’s hard to put this shit into words sometimes.

by Kevin Powers on Jan 25, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I hear Urban is coming to SC as well

He heard some of our recuits might be in town to pay their respects and thought he might get to chat with them.

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by skarocksoi on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

BILLY BALDWIN GETS IT

Jake Kaplan @jakemkaplan
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Being told that was in fact Billy Baldwin, not Stephen. Not a Baldwin expert, I guess. Regardless, a surprise guest here.
Retweeted by @nittanyrich

by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 25, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

If a Baldwin gets it...

I question the collective IQ of the talking heads…

by iamkatemcg on Jan 25, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

he was there with his slicked back hair

"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010

by letsgopsu on Jan 25, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

And to think I used to hate John Cooper

by OmarLittle on Jan 25, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I love John Cooper

He kept insisting on playing Stanley Jackson instead of Joey Germaine even though Germaine was better. Jackson looked like a player. Germaine looked like The Great Kazoo.

Cooper and that other guy whose name I forget were the broadcast team for the William & Mary – Delaware 1AA quarterfinal in Williamsburg. After W&M won in OT and there was some minor pandemonium, they both passed by me and getting into a beat up minivan, asked the nearest passerby “hey, how do we get out of here?” Yeah, the game as on ESPN2, but come on, couldnt they give the guys directions and maybe a better ride?

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 25, 2012 11:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ha, cool story

Nice to see how the Worldwide Leader treats its own

I was not a fan of Cooper for how he allowed his team to score a touchdown after Taliferro got hurt. Though that could have been overly emotional on my part

by OmarLittle on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

This
I also understand that it’s a situation where people who aren’t as attached to this aren’t as motivated to seek out every piece of information so there is going to be some of this.

So true. And if they are opponent bloggers, they’re actually motivated to do the opposite. They don’t care, at all. They’re only interested in the opportunity to paint the big swipe.

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"I’m not a from the hip guy," Brands said. "From the hip, gets you in trouble. We continually evolve, and you have to have that mindset.

by jtothep on Jan 25, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

I really wish I hadn’t read that Mgoblog post. Brian Cook is a smart guy and a good writer and is welcome to his opinion. But, well, let’s just say we’re not on the same page here.

What kills me is these fans of other programs who act as if they wouldn’t have the same kind of reaction that Penn State fans have had (Or, even better-say things like “I KNOW Bo would have gone to the police, punched Sandusky in the nuts, and kicked him out of the world!”). Joe Paterno meant a lot to us. And rightfully. So sue us. Leave us the fuck alone if you don’t like that.

by speedomike on Jan 25, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

"The man was real"...

is what I keep thinking every time I see those old shots of him with his kids.

by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 25, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Those break my heart all over again.

I think I’ve finally been able to deal with the loss of Paterno as an icon, but it’s forcing me to realize there was also Paterno the family man. The stories of him playing on the floor with his grandchildren just set me off all over again.

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 25, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

That clip of him walking hand in hand with his kids and kissing one of them as they walk away was so cool/sad to see

We always think of him from a coaching/teacher perspective. The only word I can think of to describe that old clip is “tender,” which, for all the great and exemplary adjectives used to describe Joe, isn’t one you hear very often.

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."

by LAPSU on Jan 26, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

You've honestly honored him with this post.

Good job.

"I think what the university did to him was grossly wrong" -- Mike Ditka

by SubLime on Jan 25, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks Octa. That was great.

Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson

by belbijou on Jan 25, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

In my house, he was Mr Paterno

Because he was our neighbor and my parents insisted we call him Mr, regardless of what they called him on TV. I delivered his paper. Because of where his house was in relation to ours, I always delivered their’s last. It was usually a bit late. He never complained. I don’t think he actually read the CDT. I think they just got it out of a sense of civic responsibility.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 25, 2012 11:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Tin Foil Hat time...

At this point, can we assume that Penn State is just another member of the “little 10”(formerly 9) and this is just OSU and UM’s conference.

I’m not asking for Paterno’s name to be put back on the trophy. Though I disagree, I could see why that was done. But at least, on the day of his death, show the man and his family a little respect. Why bring up JS? (i feel wrong just typing JS). Why not celebrate his life, his accomplishments, his positive contributions to the world (you could fill a few hours of TV with those alone).

Sorry, I’m emotional, hence the lack of a logical argument.

by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 25, 2012 11:39 AM EST reply actions  

Attending the Memorial Thursday

We got lucky and have two tickets to the Joe Paterno Memorial. I expected Penn State to announce that the stadium or Park Ave or the field will be renamed in honor of all the great things Joe Paterno did for people, Penn State and college football. Then Erickson crawled out of his hole to say the the “time wasn’t right”. When the hell will the time be right? These guys need to tell the detractors that we will do what is right whether they like it or not. Of course that would require that the colletive board had a single pair of balls.

by bluebellgolfer on Jan 25, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, golfer, but I agree, the time is not right. Knee jerk=take name off trophy? We're better than that.

In the past couple days I’ve seen a half dozen or more suggestions. Any one of them could be the best or the worst thing to do. While I don’t know all University policies in these matters, I would suspect that at some point the family should be having a say. If not, they should have.

Having lost a lot of family members over the years, (in much, much less public circumstances) I know you don’t make those kinds of decisions lightly or rapidly.

by be4time on Jan 25, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they want to talk about it more

Changing the names of stuff is actually kind of a big deal. Everyone has an opinion and it costs money to change all the signs. The family must be consulted and they have bigger things on their mind now.

Let’s be patient and let it marinate for a while.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 25, 2012 11:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Excellent Job Chris and Kevin.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last"

by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 25, 2012 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

Strong medicine here. . .

You draw out the manifold nuance well.

"I think what the university did to him was grossly wrong" -- Mike Ditka

by SubLime on Jan 25, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said

DiNardo is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 25, 2012 11:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

JUST found this regardin today's funeral:

http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/wjac-to-provide-live-coverage-online-stream-of-paterno-funeral-procession-990103/

WJAC to Provide Live Coverage, Online Stream of Paterno Funeral Procession
That’s where I’m headed. (I’d make a FanPost, but for reasons unknown, but every post I make will not happen, even when they are 1000 words long!)

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 25, 2012 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

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