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PSU Faculty Senate rejects no-confidence motion

The PSU faculty senate voted tonight on the motion from last time's meeting to give the Board of Trustees a vote of no confidence. The link to the article is below:

http://www.statecollege.com/news/local-news/psu-faculty-senate-rejects-noconfidence-statement-aimed-at-university-board-989380/

With a 128-58 vote, the Penn State Faculty Senate voted down Tuesday a proposed no-confidence statement on the university Board of Trustees.

Dissenters said the effort, had it passed, would have been judgmental and counterproductive.

"We all believe that Penn State is a world-class institution," said Jean Landa Pytel, a former Faculty Senate chairwoman and sitting member. "We need to act accordingly."

To that end, she went on, when problems arise, people in the institution should rally together to seek solutions in a "meaningful, constructive manner."

"Seeking revenge for actions which we may not agree with as individuals," Pytel said, would work against the best interests of both the university and the Faculty Senate itself. She said the university board is already well aware of the Faculty Senate's sentiments.

"If we vote for this (no-confidence measure), who will have confidence in us?" Pytel said, warning against a blame game.

She said a no-confidence vote would also cause outside bodies to lose confidence in Penn State.

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In addition, Faculty Senate member Tramble Turner said, the trustees have reached out to the senate and conceded that "they could've handled things better."

Language in the no-confidence proposal, introduced by College of Medicine faculty member Anthony Ambrose, referred to the child sexual abuse allegedly committed by former assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky. It asserted that Penn State's reputation, through those charges and related cover-up claims, "has been publicly and seriously defiled."

Sandusky, who has denied the allegations, is accused of having committed some of the offenses on Penn State property.

With that as background, the Ambrose proposal also included this language: "Inasmuch as the Board of Trustees is the corporate body established by the (university) charter with complete responsibility for the government and welfare of the university and all the interests pertaining thereto, and inasmuch as the Board of Trustees is the final repository of all legal responsibility and authority to govern the university, it must be held responsible.

"Consequently," the proposal went on, "it is moved that the Faculty Senate transmit to the Board of Trustees a vote of no confidence in its ability, as presently constituted, to perform its statutory duties."

Supporters of the measure included the group Penn State Alumni for the Reorganization of the Board of Trustees. It presented more than 2,000 signatures Tuesday in support of the no-confidence effort.

"The Board of Trustees did not anticipate the danger (that) Sandusky situation posed to Penn State, effectively deal with the media in addressing the issue, nor adequately inform the Penn State community and the public," the alumni group wrote online. "We believe this failure is symptomatic of the basic structure and functioning of the board."

Senators' decision on the no-confidence proposal was the second of two high-profile items at their regular meeting Tuesday, held in the Kern Building at University Park.

The first was a proposed call for a new, more independent committee and investigation into the trustees' oversight role at the university. Faculty Senate members voted that down, as well, along similar lines.

Some dissenters questioned of the wisdom of forming another investigation when roughly a half-dozen others -- including one by the U.S. Department of Education -- have already been launched at Penn State.

"I think we certainly have enough investigative committees right now," senate member Christian Brady, the honors-college dean, said in an interview.

He said trustees, administrators, faculty members and others at Penn State can -- and should -- work collaboratively to help define Penn State's ongoing and future priorities in a holistic sense. Land-grant universities, as a group, are facing fundamental questions over their future and collective identity, Brady said.

"There are lots of questions out there that the events of November (when criminal charges were filed) brought to the fore rather dramatically," he said. " ... I think we have a chance to be a real leader in higher education, especially among our land-grant peers.

"Why spoil that opportunity?" Brady went on. "Let's take advantage of that opportunity rather than trying to get one more (investigative) committee out here."

But supporters of the new-committee idea, including senate member Beverly Vandiver, questioned how the current special committee led by university trustees can be effective. That nine-member special committee, led by trustee Kenneth Frazier, includes six university trustees.

It has initiated an outside investigation -- led by former FBI Director Louis Freeh -- into the circumstances surrounding the alleged sexual abuse and cover-up at Penn State. Frazier has said that his committee has no desire to edit Freeh's findings, which are expected to yield policy and governance reforms at the university.

University President Rodney Erickson, too, said he has "been assured on multiple occasions that (Freeh's) report will be fully public with all of its findings."

Some Faculty Senate members, however, have been openly leery, questioning whether Freeh's report will be truly independent.

He is being paid by the university. And his report is expected to go to the trustees' special committee before it's made public.

"How does one independently investigate thyself?" Vandiver said Tuesday. She said an independent investigation that reflects appropriate research standards is needed.

Others, meanwhile, questioned whether the new-committee idea would have addressed all of the senate's interests. Those have included a review not only of board behavior, but also of administrative functioning, administrative structure and basic governing rules at Penn State.

Some senators tried to recommend that the trustees expand their special committee to include more non-Penn Staters. But the full senate couldn't find agreement on that, either.

Ultimately, senate members agreed to form a subcommittee that will review all the faculty-member comments made at the Tuesday meeting and develop new recommendations.

Had they passed, both the specific proposals that failed Tuesday would not have been binding measures. Rather, they would have been advisory-type actions geared toward the university board. The Faculty Senate represents faculty members as part of the Penn State shared-governance approach but has no direct authority over the Board of Trustees, the top governing body.

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I came late to the Faculty Senate discussion,

and due to an appointment had to leave before the conclusion. THANK YOU, scelesti for this overview! I have posted previously elsewhere that had the
‘no confidence’ vote passed (simply put) PSU would have left PSU without a legal entity to operate.
This is needed information; otherwise for those that DO CARE it appears that the Faculty Senate let us down. They did not. They are still trying to do the right actions.

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 25, 2012 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

It was just symbolic
had the ‘no confidence’ vote passed (simply put) PSU would have left PSU without a legal entity to operate.

Not so. The faculty senate has no such power.

Calling it a “no confidence” vote makes it sound like it is some kind of parliamentary move that would eliminate the board. Not true.

I think the community’s lack of confidence in the board is well known.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 25, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

If a 2:1 ratio of nearly 200 learned, independent thinkers

came to the conclusion that the motion was a bad idea, I can’t help but trust their judgement.

by PSU Mudder on Jan 25, 2012 12:55 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

THIS HAS NO WEIGHT

I don’t understand why people keep discussing this line it mattered.

How many times do you need to be told until you undestand that this vote was purely symbolic. The Faculty Senate has no power to dissolve the board. I repeat. The Faculty Senate has no power to disolve the board. There was never a threat that PSU would be board-less.

Get a clue.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

reedjohnmiller, i'm trying

Thanks for helping. I understand now the “vote was purely symbolic” and The Faculty Senate has no power to disolve the board. The part of the discuss I listened to included someone speaking about the consequences should the ‘no confidence’ vote have passed and the unwanted actions that would follow.

When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything you gave me'.
Erma Bombeck

by ComfortHePuHuTh on Jan 26, 2012 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Really?

That is odd.
It’s possible that I’m wrong but I’ve read a number of articles on this quoting faculty saying this was symbolic.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 26, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

What did you expect?

The faculty derives their jobs(livelihood) from the trustees that hire them. Seeking solutions in a “meaningful, constructive manner”, means not bucking the system that signs your paycheck. What a sham organization that wants to group think for the student body. You know the truth, they railroaded Joe Paterno, doing nothing to protect him when the media attacked him, mercilessly terminating his employment. The students should start a letter writing campaign asking the trustees to resign. Pytel, the faculty stooge wants you to ignore the hubris of the Paterno crucifixion. What stops them from castrating next Penn State coach the pressitutes smear?

by pink panther on Jan 25, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

Or it could be that the faculty consider other issues more important than the football team.

You want to change the narrative? Trying to force out trustees because they fired the coach is a great way to show that PSU has its priorities in order and doesn’t put football uber alles.

by 1LisHell on Jan 25, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not about football

And of you don’t understand that then you haven’t been paying attention.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 26, 2012 2:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

^This.

It’s not merely football. It’s the fact that they practically threw Paterno to the wolves as a sacrifice. The same man that is responsible for the university being what it is today.

My grievances with the board are that they acted on ignorance to appease the angry masses. They failed to show any support to an individual that has dedicated his life to the university and they did it in the least dignified way possible. Regardless if the person that they did this to was a member of the football program, a professor or an administrator, it is wrong on all accounts. This is not a football issue. This is a loyalty and honor issue and in 1 single act the board violated most of the tenants that the university itself is established on.

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 26, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't blame the board for things they had no control over...

like how much Spanier told them and how clear it was/wasn’t that this was going to be a big deal for PSU.

I do blame the board for the lack of control and measured reaction after that. And, really, that has little to do with their decision to not allow Joe to coach the rest of the season (I actually agree that nothing good could have come from him being on the sideline, especially with the cancer diagnosis). Rather where I take issue is their inability to fire him in a way that would lead the narrative that they did almost nothing to control in a more positive way.

I don’t really know what the board does on a regular basis, but they certainly exist to help guide PSU through troubled waters. Their failure to effectively do that for this scandal gives me serious concerns about their ability to do any better in the future.

by BNittsDeMilo on Jan 26, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions  

Not only terminating him inhonorably,

But also failing to then do anything to control the situation. They removed Paterno and Spanier and then sat back and let the media run wild. At no point did they defend the honor or integrity of the university and its members. That responsibility found its way down to the alumni and students, which has now garnered us the label of “cultists”.

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 26, 2012 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It suggests they aren't very functional

It’s not about football, but this could have been the dead canary in the coal mine.

In the grand scheme of things, whether or not Joe coached those four games doesn’t matter much. In fact, who coaches the football team doesn’t actually matter as much to the university as much as some might think. The revenue of about $70 mil is a drop in the bucket for all of Penn State’s budget, and the money just goes to funding the rest of athletics. Athletics, especially football, are an important PR and fundraising tool for Penn State, but lots of universities raise money without a strong athletics operation and PSU raises a lot from people who don’t really care about football. So we need to put in perspective.

BUT, and this is key, the board’s handling of this matter does raise a lot of concerns about how the board functions or doesn’t function, how it makes decisions, and its heavy reliance on the president to keep it informed. The breakdowns evident here could have much worse consequences in the future if the university is faced with other more serious crisis (yes, kids being abused is a serious humanitarian crisis, but not an existential crisis for the whole university). Like, God forbid, we have a VT shooter situation here or a natural disaster? How will the university keep people safe? And the continued squeeze from the State poses serious issues for how PSU will operate and serve students and the commonwealth as a whole. If the board couldn’t figure out a way to have a simple rational conversation with Joe Paterno, then how is it going to handle those kinds of issues? The lack of confidence by the faculty and community isn’t misplaced.

by reedjohnmiller on Jan 26, 2012 1:06 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

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