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Meet the Coaches: John Butler

Penn Staters rejoice! The Nittany Lions finally have a special teams coach. John Butler has joined the Penn State staff to coach defensive backs and special teams. This is a position that has needed to be addressed for the past several years as Penn State fans have tired of the infamous "designated fair catcher". Butler is a local guy, growing up in Oreland (outside of Philadelphia) and attending La Salle High School, though he did not attend Penn State.

Playing Experience. Butler played football at the Division III school Catholic University, but had no NFL experience.

Coaching Experience. Most recently, Butler coached special teams and outside linebackers at the University of South Carolina. Prior to taking the job with the Gamecocks, Butler coached the same positions under Tim Brewster at Minnesota (along with Ted Roof). Butler has also worked at Harvard, Texas State, Midwestern State and Texas.

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Recruiting. Bill O'Brien has assigned Butler to recruit in the state of South Carolina. Butler was part of the group of coaches that visited Cam Williams and Armani Reeves last week to try and convince them to stay with Penn State. While that failed, hopefully he'll find success in South Carolina, where he spent the last year coaching.

Cupboards. Butler faces a tough challenge this year as the Penn State secondary has pretty much depleted thanks to graduation. This year's entire starting secondary (D'Anton Lynn, Chaz Powell, Drew Astorino and Nick Sukay) are being lost to graduation. Penn State still has Stephon Morris, Malcolm Willis and Adrian Amos, but Penn State is short in quality depth in the secondary (unless Derrick Thomas can straighten himself out). The loss of Armani Reeves to OSU/Michigan hurts as well.

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SBN has a relatively strict photo policy.

Kyle selected literally the only approved photo of John Butler.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 27, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

so much tragedy in just one reply

I was, of course, joking because Coach Butler is the one staff choice (notwithstanding strength and conditioning) that truly fulfills our (me, myself and I) requirement that the new coach(es) be good looking.

by PSUgirl on Jan 27, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I figured that was the reason for the comment.

Wish we could cater more to our female fans, but like I said, our pictures are limited. Hopefully, for your sake, we get more pics of these guys.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 27, 2012 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ahhhhh

He rather resembles a grown up Bobby Brady, no?

by Pentimental on Jan 27, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

was going to say no way

but now I kinda see it – and kinda hate you forever. But mostly no – I’m more in the Robert Taylor/young Roger Moore camp ;)

by PSUgirl on Jan 27, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This Robert Taylor?

I thought he was largely forgotten.

"I think what the university did to him was grossly wrong" -- Mike Ditka

by SubLime on Jan 27, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

you are correct

definition of dreamy. Watched a lot of old movies as a kid – a lot.

by PSUgirl on Jan 27, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasnt he a crazy skin hound?

Like, make Charlie Sheen blush caliber?

by LoggingLion on Jan 27, 2012 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hopeful....

I really wanted to give this guy a B but because of his lack of experience and the lack of proof that he can be an effective recruiter I’m left with the default C answer.

Positives I do want to specifically point out though are that he is a local guy, he’s young (hopefully ambitious) and from all the interviews of coach’s I saw he seemed to be the most enthused to be here. On multiple occassions I heard him call this the dream job which gets me excited about any coach as it does when recruits utter the words.

by VinnyV11 on Jan 27, 2012 9:16 AM EST reply actions  

Watch the PSU video

it might be doublespeak – but he claims to be a lifelong PSU fan – and was a huge fan as a kid.
He’s been on the crew that has been out talking to all these kids this last 2 weeks – he’s been more places than South Carolina.
He was at usc with the new strength coach, Fitzgerald – assuming he had something to do with his hire (been hearing positive reactions from players).
Lots of unknowns – along with most of this crew
We’ll have to wait and see, but while we are, I’ll be watching Coach Butler.

by PSUgirl on Jan 27, 2012 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

Seriously WATCH THE VIDEO

A lot of those B’s will switch to A’s afterwards. He is very articulate and clearly a big Penn State fan. He grew up dreaming of playing for Penn State and Paterno, just lacked the ability to do it, so we went to Catholic to play football (and hoops). This is the future of PSU’s defensive coaching.

He and his friends watched the 1986/87 Fiesta Bowl game so much in high school that the tape broke.

I was most impressed by him of all the new coaches aside from O’Brien. USC isn’t Happy Valley, but it’s not chop liver either. He made what’s pretty close to a lateral move because he loves Penn State. This is the best “get” of all the new assistants by far.

Here’s the video: http://www.gopsusports.com/blog/2012/01/video-exclusive-interview-with-assistant-coach-john-butler.html

I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.

by spakajewia on Jan 27, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Any recruiting updates?

On 247 Sports, a poster is claiming that Skyler Mornhinweg has committed to play QB at Florida. So that opens up a scholarship. Who can we get to fill that? Quanzell Lambert? One of the Don Bosco Prep kids? Any updates on the players on our radar screen right now?

by LionInTheWeeds on Jan 27, 2012 9:46 AM EST reply actions  

Second this

Would love to hear if any Rutgers recruits are in play now that Schiano left for the NFL.

by stevea3 on Jan 27, 2012 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Saw that.

But also saw it wasnt confirmed.

by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 27, 2012 10:34 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And thus you remain a beacon of responsible reporting.

Thank you!

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 27, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I read this as "you remain a bacon of responsible reporting"

The world would be a better place if journalists were half as delicious as bacon is, and we all should strive to be.

In other news, it’s lunch time.

by dbl5030 on Jan 27, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Homer says it best:

It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.

by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 27, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I read it that way too :)

"It doesn't matter what people think of me," Joe said. "I've lived my life. I just hope the truth comes out. And I hope the victims find peace."

by BMAN13 on Jan 30, 2012 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I want to comment on this hire

but as of this morning, I’m still all Phil Knight and Jay Paterno.

by PSU Mudder on Jan 27, 2012 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

Honestly, I give the hire an 'A'

simply because we finally have a ST coach. That, in it of itself, makes him infinity times better than our last nonexistent ST coach.

by cjapsu on Jan 27, 2012 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Btw

where do you get the “special teams” moniker? (wiki?) everything I’ve seen is “secondary” – which is plenty. Not saying it won’t be great to have some ST expertise – but he’s going to be a busy guy with safeties and dbacks.

by PSUgirl on Jan 27, 2012 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

Yes,

last I saw he would only have the title of DBs coach, not ST.

"Today we have experienced a great loss. This loss is incomparable to what we gained from coach Paterno." - Mike Wallace

by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 27, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Skyler Mornhinweg....

Gone. Commits to U of F

"My kitchen is a mess y'all" Paula Deen

by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 27, 2012 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Doesn't surprise me...

I heard PSU wanted Skyler to play safety.

by jetskijoe on Jan 27, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, from film alone (not the best indicator, but all we've got)

Skyler didn’t seem to be quantifiably better than Bench. And it opens up another schollie.

"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"

by DrewRusse on Jan 27, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

So..

you can play for a guy who has coached Tom Brady or you can play for Will Muschamp? He went to Florida for the girls.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last"

by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 27, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

This is an insult to PSU girls...

I prefer to think he went to Florida because the girls can walk around in turtle skirts and bikinis most of the year… but not because the girls are quantifiably hotter.

Said another way, he fell for the fancy, name-brand packaging on the same goods.

by BNittsDeMilo on Jan 27, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry.

Top end is the same, but for sheer quantity, Florida wins.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Jan 27, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Right, it's a matter of depth

I’d put the hottest top 100 PSU girls vs the hottest 100 at UF any day of the week.

But when you get down the list to comparing #12,000 or so, there’s a marked difference

by PSU Mudder on Jan 27, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I gotta step in here.

Top 100 Florida vs top 100 PSU is no contest in favor of SECpeeeeed

maybe it’s just a personal preference for tan women

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Jan 27, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lots of girls tan at PSU

They just have to do it in tanning beds instead of out on the beaches.

And I’ll take the top 100 PSU girls over the top 100 Florida girls any day of the week and twice on Sundays. If only they’d have me.

Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?

by psuphysicist on Jan 27, 2012 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Woof

I hated (ok not really, but I’m trying to make a point here) the tanning bed girls when I was at PSU. Give me a natural tan over a fake one all day, errrrday.

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."

by LAPSU on Jan 27, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I hated the ones that did it too much

But there were some attractive PSU girls with tans. And they didn’t get them by laying out in state college in january

Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?

by psuphysicist on Jan 27, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I do like my women

pasty white.

With bright red lipstick and whips.

#12,000 or so? Scrapping the bottom of the barrel, no? I can’t please one more than 3 women, let alone 100, or 1,000. If you’re worried what number 12,000 looks like, you need to aim just a little higher. If your own looks don’t land you in the top 12,000, then you can take heart in the fact that women are a lot less superficial than men and worry about impressing her with your intelligence, sensitivity, and sincerity. Worrying about what the 12,000th girl looks like is sort of like arguing with a Temple* fan about whether our team is better than theirs. What is the point?

*After the classless behavior I saw exhibited by many many Temple fans attending the game in Philly this year, it is safe to say they are BY FAR the least respected of the teams we play.

by BNittsDeMilo on Jan 27, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the southern accent myself

not the Tennessee draw, mind you, the real southern accent

by nuker77 on Jan 27, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I love a Texas accent

I thought long and hard about going to UT just to meet a little tan legged Texas girl that drank whiskey and rode horses.

Florida girls don’t have nice southern accents. You have to go to Georgia for that.

Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?

by psuphysicist on Jan 27, 2012 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Florida girls either speak spanish or sound like they are from Jersey.

"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."

by mvrck on Jan 27, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

"It doesn't matter what people think of me," Joe said. "I've lived my life. I just hope the truth comes out. And I hope the victims find peace."

by BMAN13 on Jan 30, 2012 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Louisiana

I really want to meet the girl I spoke to from GE Transformers in Shreeveport, a couple times on the phone. She sounded absolutely beautiful. I have a picture in my head but more than likely will be disappointed.

"It doesn't matter what people think of me," Joe said. "I've lived my life. I just hope the truth comes out. And I hope the victims find peace."

by BMAN13 on Jan 30, 2012 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

SEC peeeed?

Heh.

What the hell just happened?

by Pete the Streak on Jan 27, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Some dudes are into that, don't judge.

Sandwich is the best
Bread use aside from making
Russians stand in line

by WorldBFat on Jan 27, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Unconfirmed

"My kitchen is a mess y'all" Paula Deen

by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 27, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

C

Not enough information either way. Willing to be surprised.

by M1EK on Jan 27, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Schiano

Are we hearing anything credible about PSU picking up some Rutgers decommits?

by NittanyBlueHen on Jan 27, 2012 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

Rutgers recruits are sticking it out...

I think that has been the initial response from key recruits… I guess we’ll see as each begins to receive phone calls from other schools.

by PSU_Ovaltine68 on Jan 27, 2012 11:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If they do all stick together

i think that’s pretty awesome

"My kitchen is a mess y'all" Paula Deen

by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 27, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind if the Rutgers QB recruit looks...

at PSU. I like this kid Steven Bench… he might be something. However, having competition is not a bad thing if the staff declares 1 a winner and they aren’t constantly rotating them in and out.

by PSU_Ovaltine68 on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree

As we go through the continuous stream of decommits, I can appreciate guys sticking to their word.

That being said, if we sense these guys starting to waver, especially these 4 star OLs they have, better us get them than other B1Gs that will be trying.

by NittanyBlueHen on Jan 27, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I know its crazy but...

I’d take a run at Brandon Arcidiacono. The guy is only a 2* recruit, but he’s pretty far down on their list and his brother plays for Penn State now. We need OL bodies and he may be able to fit that role for us. We also need another linebacker in this class. Have to find a diamond in the rough now.

by LionInTheWeeds on Jan 27, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Special Teams.

I don’t care one way or the other if we have a special teams coach. It’s not how you organize the staff, it’s the emphasis in practice and the players on the squads. A lot of people praise VA Tech for their ST play. They spread ST responsibility among multiple coaches, including Beamer.

by CvilleLion on Jan 27, 2012 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

and in every big game..

their Special Teams suck.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last"

by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 27, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, at least for some of the areas.

I’ve worked for companies that went through periods of under performing. None of them ever reorganized their way out of the problem. They changed personnel and they placed proper attention on deficient areas.

I’m not ready to declare imminent improvement to special teams just because we (might) have someone with Special Teams in his title.

by CvilleLion on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

more a jab at Beamer Ball...

they aren’t as good on ST as their rep.

"Each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last"

by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 27, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Special teams

I do think it’s a little funny that the article talks about how great it is to have a special teams coach and then not talk about special teams players in the “cupboard” section.

by psfann on Jan 27, 2012 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

Well you don't really recruit players for STs

Nor does Penn State have a specific depth chart for them outside of P/K… that makes it a bit difficult to cover in that section

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by Kyle_Martin on Jan 27, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

*player

helpful if i could type

by wicker on Jan 27, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

*playa

"I think what the university did to him was grossly wrong" -- Mike Ditka

by SubLime on Jan 27, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Late layer?

TWSS.

Obligatory.

What the hell just happened?

by Pete the Streak on Jan 27, 2012 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

So with a Special Teams coach

Will we be able to keep Justin Brown out of harms way, or is he too good at PR/KR to NOT use?

by LoggingLion on Jan 27, 2012 1:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I would like to see Amos back for PR

Though Brown was the only bright spot in the bowl game

by nuker77 on Jan 27, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah,

Moomoo is too little, although blisteringly fast…maybe Malik Golden will get some reps, along with Amos.

by LoggingLion on Jan 27, 2012 1:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

he's small

but reminds me of Brandon Banks some. Just because he’s tiny doesn’t mean he can’t have an impact as a returner.

Fire Dan Snyder

by Cari Greene on Jan 28, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Which recruits are visiting this weekend?

Not sure when this info is available… I think DE-Evan Schwan, maybe DB and WR from GA and DB from NY are in SC… Anyone else?

by PSU_Ovaltine68 on Jan 27, 2012 1:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

YES!!!! We got the coach from Blue Mountain State!

by BOBilicious on Jan 28, 2012 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

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