Penn State Coaching Search: NFL Gossip Girls Refuse To Back Off Bill O'Brien
by Chris Grovich on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 AM EST
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Either New England Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O'Brien has the best agent in the world, or this has an actual possibility of happening.
Pro Football Talk, last night:
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Perhaps Patriots offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien will wind up coaching at Penn State next year after all. O’Brien will interview for the head coaching position on Thursday, according to NFL.com.
Jason La Canfora of NFL Network writes that the "potential to strike a deal is very real." ESPN’s Adam Schefter first reported that O’Brien would meet with Penn State this week and looked like the frontrunner for the job.
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This continues to make zero sense. O'Brien's agent blatantly admits that his client's dream is to coach an NFL team. Even now, as he's supposedly nearing a deal with Penn State, O'Brien is also angling for the Jacksonville Jaguars job.
Does that sound like someone to which Dave Joyner and Ira Lubert are going to tie their reputations? A guy who views Penn State as a job, and not a dream job? Someone who is likely to jump back into the NFL at the first glimps of a palatable head coaching gig?
We all realize that anything is possible, but this? Doesn't seem possible. If Lubert and Joyner are indeed working the NFL angle at this point -- certainly, there appear to be more NFL names than college names floating about -- San Francisco offensive coordinator Greg Roman is at least saying the right things:
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"It's about the individual opportunities, the people you're surrounding yourself with," Roman said. "And a job like Penn State is a lifetime job. That's a job if I were to become the head coach there, I'd wouldn't leave there.
"I'd be back East, setting up camp, I'd be at the (Jersey) Shore in the summer. And that would be my routine.That's a very unique opportunity at Penn State, so that's something I'd definitely consider strongly. But I love where I'm at right now."
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Roman is a native of Ventnor, New Jersey and went to college at John Carroll in Ohio. He's coached all over the offensive side of the ball, mostly involving the offensive line and tight ends, but also with a two year stint as a quarterback coach in Houston. His most complete bio, for whatever reason, remains on the Stanford Cardinal official site.
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If I had to chose,
Roman would be much better than O’Brien, admittedly of limited investigation.
I like him more cause of his statement above
dont know how i feel about him from a coaching standpoint
When this is all over
O’Brien’s agent and Joe Amendola should open up a marketing firm.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
They are doing a better job of marketing than the folks Penn State hired.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
I'd like to think I'm not delusional...
and therefore I really don’t buy into any of the “rumors” that suggest one of Miles or Saban is already locked in but I also really have a hard time believing either of these guys are the best we can do. There seems to be a major disconnect there. Isn’t there a middle ground? I guess if you think the next guy still has coaching to do it could be a Kirby Smart or a John Chavis (who’s name really hasn’t been brought up) but still we’re talking a lot of risk either way. The flip side is that anyone that would fall in that middleground could have been hired weeks ago…oh well…
by phanatic's phloozies on Jan 5, 2012 9:56 AM EST reply actions
Clements.
If it were a NFL assistant, I’ll take him. It would be nice to have a coach who is competent at coaching quarterbacks.
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by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Since the '09 season, he's been the main playcaller and coordinator
for one of the most dominate offenses in the league. I hate the Pats, but it’s hard to argue with what he’s done. True, you’re starting from a strong point when you have Brady as your QB, but what the Pats have done with Tight Ends this year, for example, is unique and very effective.
The guy can coach up an offense.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Sorry, but every coordinator to come from the Pats...
Has failed elsewhere. I’m not interested. Not at all.
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that seems to be a popular sentiment
but i’m just as interested, if not more interested, in this guy than in someone like schiano.
Assuming we’re going to get a homerun-type guy, I’ll wait to see how the guy acts at his oening presser and how well he does before dismissing him.
If you’re going to be unhappy with anyone not named Bradley, Munchak, or Petersen, then at this point, you’re probably going to be unhappy. The point of college football, for me at least, is not to purposefully be pissed off. I’ll give whatever joker they throw in there the benefit of the doubt.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Yes to supporting the new coach whoever he is
but O’Brien doesn’t interest me. I’d take Clements or Roman over him. The nicknames for Roman would be much better.
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by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
at least he is
a coordinator unlike clemets who failed at Buffalo. Out the the NFL assistants I prefer Roman then O Brien. The worst of the three is Clements.
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Failing in Buffalo isn't exactly something that is exclusive to Clements
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In fact, Buffalo's only winning season in the 2000's was with Clements as OC, right?
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by Chris Grovich on Jan 5, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Correct
9-7, and couldn’t beat the Steelers backups to get the last wildcard spot.
I’m not permanently scarred by that team or anything.
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It is ok
I am pretty sure those back ups were better than most of the AFC East that year.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I blame those God forsaken navy blue uniforms.
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Running game
I’m a Pats fan and the fact that the offense relies WAY too much on the pass makes me sick. Penn State has always had a power running game. O’Brien would waste the talents of Redd, Dukes, and others.
PSU could use a little more pass-first offense IMO.
You make the running game better by diversifying, not worse.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Truth
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I agree, I'm all for diversity.
My gut reaction was have you seen the MIA running game of the Patriots, but I just did some digging. Since O’Brien started calling plays in ’09 here are their regular season rankings:
Total Rushing Yardage:
2009 – 12th (1921 yds)
2010 – 9th (1973 yds)
2011 – 20th (1756 yds)
Total Rushing Attempts:
2009 – 10th
2010 – 10th
2011 – 17th
They started out with a more balanced attack, but this year fell off the wagon a little bit.
I believe diversity is an old wooden ship...
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ron, why would upper management be worried about an old wooden ship?
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Um, no, he really hasn't.
BB and Brady sit in BB’s office and draw up all the plays and make tweaks. When the coordinator position was open because JD went to the Broncos, BB did not promote him to OC. What fine candidate did he choose over OBrien? Vacancy. Some vote of confidence in his ability that.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 5, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The obvious counter to this line of thought is the 2011 Colts.
You’re a genius until your top 10 QB of all time goes down, and then you’re the worst team in the league. It’s a QB league and everyone is running 90% of the same stuff anyway, so it’s not like there’s a lot of innovation happening. The vast majority of the time, if you have a good QB you’re good. If you don’t, you’re the Cleveland Browns.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you guys got rid of derek anderson.
just saying.
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by mikeissurreal on Jan 5, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Although the Pats were still pretty good when Brady went down.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Any TE prospect
that doesn’t come to play for us if we get O’Brien is an absolute nincompoop. Look up the combined stats of Gronkowski and Hernandez this year.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Well, he did have the "guts" to take Wonder Boy on!
However, in the big picture, it doesn’t make a lot of sense. He is young and we don’t have a clue to all the negotiations that went on with different people. We may be focusing on NFL types so that some of the current staff is retained.
As many have pointed out, there still may be some aftershocks (ie more bad news) to the Sandusky thing after the trial starts.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Why is that when the QB in question is an all-star (Brady, Rodgers)
they weren’t helped by the QB coach (O’Brien, Clements)? But when the QBs at Penn State routinely fail to catch on in the NFL over the past 18 years, it’s all Jay’s fault?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 5, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Why is the sky blue?
why is water wet?
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
O'Brien wasn't there when Tom became a star
Just saying….Clements is a different ball of wax though.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 5, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Great Article on Penn Live about the search
http://blog.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2012/01/penn_state_football_coaching_s.html
I read it last night before bed and I have to agree with a lot of the article. I don’t think the names coming out now are the game plan.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
From the linked article
The daily names being release have been a perfect way to expose those who leak inside information. You tell someone a name and then stand back and see if it pops out. Insiders are being picked off one by one. It is brilliant actually.
That made a ton of sense to me, especially in light of the memos that allege that there were leaks from the BOT. Maybe this search has, as some of us suspected, involved some red herrings. But those red herrings served an internal cleansing purpose as well.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I like to think that
keeping my fingers crossed.
Maybe...
but I doubt it. Why spend so much effort on finding some leaks in the athletic department? This isn’t an issue of national security. It just seems too…complex. It isn’t that they couldn’t pull it off, but why would they?
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by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Really?
It is brilliant actually
Not sure that this phrase should exactly be applied to our coaching search, PennLive. As I’ve said elsewhere, I have a hard time seeing the point of some Machiavellian scheme to throw reproters off our trail…. why not spend the energy to, you know, just hire someone?
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
That way they'll never see it coming
when we hire Jim Caldwell! [maniacal laughter][gets quiet][maniacal crying]
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this would not suprise me
If this happens, it is a stopgap measure and would not be a long haul choice.
I just read.
If this happens
I’m going to dig out my eyeballs with a shrimp fork and then find the tallest building I can to jump from.
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You should probably find the building first,
then gouge your eyes out. You know, ’cause it would be harder to find said building without your eyes and all.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
by icavalera on Jan 5, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ok
so maybe I need to rethink this plan. But still, eyes gone, jump off building. Those are key.
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Caldwell appears to have the personality of plywood.
Him vs. Urban in recruiting battles would likely be very, very, ugly.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Only makes sense if the true information is sensitive
if the real hire is someone who would not be affected by leaks involving his status, it’s pointless. If the real hire would be prejudiced or worse, if the real hire would have to back out if his status were leaked, then it makes perfect sense.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Uh-huh.
If they’re waiting this long, they better have a damn good reason for waiting this long. And no, “showing respect to Bradley and the other coaches by not making a move prior to the fifth-tier bowl game” does not qualify.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Does "Everyone we talked to said no except this guy" count as good or bad?
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by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
And "showing respect to Bradley"
would include letting him go right away after the bowl game if that was their plan from day 1. To string him along does a great disservice to a great Penn Stater.
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I can agree with this.
Although, I’m sure Bradley’s already sifting through job offers — hopefully one of them isn’t DC at Iowa — while keeping a good public face on the PSU program (which really does him no harm at all, it only helps).
by Chris Grovich on Jan 5, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Better a lame duck coach than nobody
If they don’t have the guy just yet – either because they haven’t picked him or just haven’t got him physically in State College yet – then better to have the current staff out there doing whatever they can to recruit right up until the exact second the new guys can start doing it.
I’m sure Bradley knows the score now. If he’s got no chance then his continued efforts in recruiting just show what kind of mensch he is. He deserves whatever honors PSU can bestow.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Nice article.
Could be true, but it is still speculation. What is the point of keeping such a tight lid? To me, they are not portraying confidence. Maybe this will end with a great hire, but I’m starting to think Dave and Ira are over their head here.
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Playing devil's advocate here because I know many don't like what is going down.
But what if they do get a homerun? Will this then be regarded as one of greatest modern day coaching searches? Think of what they would have to overcome in order to make this happen. I think there would be classes that would teach this as a lesson in athletic administration at its highest level.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
If they hit a home run.
Then yes, masterful search. But after so long, if it’s not a home run (which I suspect), then this thing was botched if only for the long delay.
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To be honest, we won't know if they hit a home run until the games are played
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by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Very true.
I guess I’m speaking more from an acceptance standpoint. With every passing day, I fear those that will be unhappy with the choice is growing at a exponential rate.
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Absolutely
There are few names that will satisfy the instant reaction crowd at this point, but the $$ comes from the long-haul
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by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Tom Bradley is looking better and better
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 10:03 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
I hate to say
but if Tom Bradley was the guy I think it would be over and done with by now.
It is not Bradley or Johnson and they both know that.
Their comments and body language at the Jokecity Bowl proved that.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, I'm just saying he looks better
compared to these NFL wisenheimers.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with you
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with both of you.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree.
What the hell just happened?
by Pete the Streak on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
So....
we’re in agreement.
Nice.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Two O'Brien bios (he has mostly college-leve, ACC experience)
From the Pat’s website:
Bill O’Brien was named quarterbacks coach on Head Coach Bill Belichick’s staff in 2009. O’Brien served as wide receivers coach in 2008 after joining the Patriots as a coaching assistant in 2007 following 14 seasons coaching at the collegiate level.
In 2008, Patriots wide receivers contributed to an offense that posted the third highest yardage output in franchise history despite the loss of starting quarterback Tom Brady in Week 1. Wes Welker produced his second consecutive season with 100-plus receptions and was selected to his first Pro Bowl. Both Welker and Randy Moss posted 1,000- yard receiving seasons in 2008, each achieving the first back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons in franchise history.
Prior to entering the NFL, O’Brien coached in the Atlantic Coast Conference for 12 seasons, including tenures at Georgia Tech (1995-2002), Maryland (2003-04) and Duke H 17th Coaching Season H 3rd NFL Season H 3rd Patriots Season (2005-06).
O’Brien completed a two-year tenure at Duke as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach from 2005-06. O’Brien joined the Duke coaching staff after spending two seasons as the running backs coach at the University of Maryland. In his first season with the Terrapins in 2003, Maryland finished second in the ACC in rushing and defeated West Virginia in the Gator Bowl.
O’Brien spent eight seasons at Georgia Tech (1995-2002), and served as the Yellow Jackets’ offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in his final two seasons. In addition to his normal duties, he also served as an assistant head coach in 2002 and was Georgia Tech’s recruiting coordinator from 1999-2000. He spent his first three seasons at Georgia Tech as an offensive graduate assistant (1995-97) before beginning a three-year stint as the Yellow Jackets’ running backs coach (1998-2000). In each of O’Brien’s three seasons coaching the running backs, Georgia Tech finished no lower than third in the conference in rushing. During his two-year tenure as offensive coordinator (2001-02), the team played in a bowl game each season. In 2001, under O’Brien’s direction, the Yellow Jackets led the ACC in passing and finished third in the league in scoring.
O’Brien began his coaching career at Brown, coaching tight ends in 1993 and tutoring inside linebackers in 1994.
Playing: O’Brien was a linebacker and defensive end at Brown University from 1990-92.
Personal: Bill O’Brien was born on October 23, 1969 in Dorchester, Mass. He and his wife, Colleen, have two sons, Jack and Michael.
From wiki:
O’Brien’s first coaching position was at Brown, where he coached tight ends in 1993 then inside linebackers in 1994. He would then spend the next three seasons (1995–1997) as an offensive graduate assistant at the Georgia Institute of Technology. He then coached the Yellow Jackets’ running backs from the 1998 season through 2000 season. From 2001 to 2002, O’Brien served as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach and was named an assistant head coach for the 2002 season. In 2003, he left to coach running backs at the University of Maryland, spending two seasons there before being named the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for Duke in 2005.
After two seasons with Duke, O’Brien was hired by the New England Patriots on February 27, 2007 as an offensive assistant.1 On February 21, 2008, O’Brien was promoted to wide receivers coach.2 He became the team’s quarterback coach and offensive play-caller following the 2008 season and the departure of quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. He was promoted to offensive coordinator in February 2011.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
How much of the Pat's success can be attributed to O'Brien?
It is a wonderful system, and I would love to see it in place at PSU because it can work with just about any competent scholarship quarterback running it. But I have to wonder if O’Brien can be a head coach and the offensive coordinator at the same time at a major university.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of Hurricanes
Why don’t we start a Mike Ditka rumor just to hear him go off on national tv about it.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
+1
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
None.
He literally gets shut out of the room to review upcoming games and tweak the offense.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 5, 2012 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what? he's the offensive coordinator
how the hell do you know this? from that bellicheck documentary on the nfl network? that was filmed a few years ago…
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
From an offensive coach on the staff.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
This is a publicity stunt
by O’Brien and his agent to get his name out there fro NFL HC jobs… nothing more to be seen here.
It’s so obvious. Mike London’s agent leaked the preposterous rumor that the BOD contacted him to be the coach something like 10 minutes after they called JoePa to fire him, and oh look a two year extension and $2.1MM annual raise.
Playbook was set from there, and because of all the concerns about leaks outlined above, it’s a zero risk strategy. PSU isn’t confirming, denying, or even non-denying anything and won’t until they hire press release goes out.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'd do that too if I were an agent
It’s not a business that rewards a fanatical devotion to the truth.
Until I see solid evidence to the contrary, I will never believe we actually went after Peterson very hard. I think that was all a ploy for him to get a better contract. He may be a great coach, but he’s not a good fit here.
Likewise, it’s a stretch to say Tony Dungy “turned down the job.” Maybe we gave him a call. We might have also called Mike Tomlin and Nick Saban and the Harbaughs and the ghost of Amos Alonzo stag. Doesn’t hurt to ask. You never know. But I don’t think anyone involved seriously had any hope in that option.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Why do I hear the Jeopardy theme song in my head
every time I read about the coaching search? At the end of the day, I’m okay with all this if they get it right.
And no, O’Brien doesn’t make sense to me either.
Damn it.
Now that song will be in my head until the decision is made. Well done.
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it's in mine as well
but it’s an upgrade from what was in my head before…the “my buddy” commercial theme music.
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My order of preference with regards to the NFL assistants mentioned:
1. Clements
2. Roman
3. O’Brien
That said, I have my doubts about all of them.
My preference with regards to the NFL assistants mentioned:
1. Shoot my self
2. Learn the intricacies of soccer
3. Become a Pitt fan
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Is it possible to agree with both you and psu2007? Because I do.
Substitute Pitt for a local D-3 team, of course.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 5, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I tried to think of something worse than death
and Pitt was all I could think of.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I’m going to go with the Bloomsburg Huskies.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
I actually could cover Shippensburg U.
My brother in law does it for the c-burg paper and did it for the Shippensburg paper but I could jump on the gig for either the Ship or Carlisle papers. That would be very different than my game days at PSU but it is fun, i have gone to a couple games, home and away and sat in the press box and helped with stats.
I just read.
Rocky is a great coach there also
If he is still the coach. Very nice from what I hear to anyone who sees him and says hi.
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Rocky Reese retired last year
and yes, great guy. Mark Maciejewski replaced him and is a young guy that seems to be a pretty good replacement. Rocky was basically a legend and is missed by anyone that knew him.
I just read.
I never actually knew him
Just had a bunch of friends in the band, and he would always take time out of interviews to thank the band.
I was there when the great John Kuhn was playing, meet him a few times. He was a massive massive man, scared the shit out of me the first time i talked to him. A buddy of mine was friends with him and he came up behind me to say something to me, turned around and this giant of a man was standing there telling me something, about a play i was in that he saw.
But Rocky was also a big man.
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Dude, screw soccer and football.
Penn State wrestling: 2012-14 national champions. I guarantee it.
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Not disagreeing
But I would probably become the biggest PSU hockey fan EVA!
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Penn State is a wrestling school now.
You people who still care about the football team are sad, pathetic, little people.
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I'm totally getting into wrestling
Especially now that Y2J is back
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Cael's recruiting him for HWT
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
That's what I told my Ohio State cousins a few years back
Football is sooo 2005. Women’s volleyball is where it’s at. But now that too is passe. Wrestling is the new black.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I've been leading the hockey bandwagon for years
If we win one game next year, it will be progress.
I’ve been into college hockey for years and have gone to Icers games since I was a kid. The day they announced PSU was going D1 was one of the best of my life (I’m not married, so I can say that safely).
Guy Gadowski is the absolute ideal hire. He has an excellent track record in building projects at Princeton and Fairbanks. He took both of them from complete doormats to respectability. At both places, he had to recruit from the whole continent since, unlike in Michigan or Minnesota, there’s not a ton of talent in the nearby area. Perfect preparation for this gig. His time at Princeton shows he cares about academics. He never played in the NHL, but scrapped in all kinds of minor leagues, including professional roller hockey, which shows he knows something about fighting uphill battles. He also coached minor league hockey and has recruiting contacts all over western Canada and all sorts of places people around here have never heard of.
He’s one of a string of “home run” hires for the athletics department in recent years. Sadly, the guy leading that was Curley. Whatever his sins, he did a good job at hiring in the lower profile sports. I’d love to believe we can do the same with football but it’s not the same situation. We can afford to spend a lot of money and offer great facilities but its not like wrestling where what we can offer is heads and shoulders above most of the competition. We can offer great facilities, but so can a few other schools. We can offer a lot of money, but not the most. We can offer a great fanbase, but so can others.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I learned the intricacies of soccer
Really. And now I like it more than football. Really. I love that the action is constant. No TV timeouts.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
This is your brain on drugs. Any questions?
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Only the action from a book about war is more exciting. Mind you, a book about war, not war itself.
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by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
The only thing I find more boring to watch than soccer is horse racing
I’d rather eat a horse than watch it run in a circle. I do appreciate the soccer WAGs though.
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by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
You're all missing out
But I understand why people not raised with soccer don’t understand it.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
No I watch, and support my school's soccer team every spring when they play their games
But I don’t care for it. Could you put 18 little boys in uniforms and on a baseball diamond and it look like the world series? No. Could you put 22 middle school boys in uniforms and pads on a football field and have it look like the Super Bowl?No. Could you put 22 six year olds on a soccer pitch and have it look like the world cup? yep.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Thats not true
theres less crying when the 6 year olds go down.
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by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
That's overstated
Most of the time, the guys who are rolling around holding their knee are just catching their breath. I wish soccer had a rule like football where if you delay the game for an injury, real or fake, you have to go off for a bit.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
football is filled with breaks so its absurd when after 6 plays
a guy can’t go on and must take a knee. in soccer, its 2 45 min periods of constant running, any elite athlete would need a break in the midst.
let's go state
Its definitely not constant running
The closest it gets is for the midfielders, and even they get a number of breaks
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I used to play soccer
Rugby has way more running and a lot less breaks.
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And thats not even close really
Also, you have to take a hit, get up and sprint back to your position. In soccer you can roll around like a baby (well if you play in Italian or South American Leagues). Incidentally, FIFA refs kill the world cup every year when they let the South/Central American teams and the Italians dictate the pace of the game by flopping around like fish out of water. Every other country seems pretty content to actually play soccer.
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Rugby is awesome to watch
I just have no idea whats going on.
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I play
And still don’t really know whats going on half the time. I just like hitting people. Also, I like that its a rule that you have to wrap up when you tackle. None of this James Harrison headhunter bullshit. You hit someone head on like a man.
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yeah
I have a friend that plays. He tries to explain it to me but I dont know much aside from the basics. I’d love to play but I’m a little guy, so I’d just get destroyed (also I’m way out of shape for rugby).
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Our flyhalf was a little guy my junior year
But he was quick, skilled, and played like a big guy. You could always play wing.
Its an awesome sport to get into. The best part is after every match you go drinking with the other team. Its great.
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my friend said wing was the position for me if I played
I’d be good at hitting people. Especially now with all this pent up football rage just wanting to get out.
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Yeah
Its a great outlet.
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Collegiate Sevens
championship back at PPL Stadium this summer!
Went last year, first time at a rugby match. Had a blast.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
I played rugby in college
Still get to once or twice a year. I like it better than football.
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I know I'm just kidding
except for the italians. Bunch of whiny girls.
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That is true.
I’m not a fan of the Italian team.
Their whole football culture is rife with corruption and racism too. It’s nasty really.
The Budesliga is where it’s at.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
loved watching the German team in the World Cup
only because I could yell Sweinstiger! (Or however its spelled)
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Have you ever seen some of their WAGs (Wives and Girlfriends)?
Totti’s Wife:
Buffon’s Wife:
Del Piero’s Wife:
Luca Toni’s Wife or fiance:
Christian Vieri’s Ex (also George Clooney’s Ex):
Christian Panucci’s girlfriend:
And to show they age well, Paolo Maldini’s wife (he’s 44, been married for 14 years with 2 kids):
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Jan 5, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was hoping I didn't have to make the obvious joke
but here goes…
If any of those women were my wife of girlfriend, I’d also do a lot of diving.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I want to be Christian Panucci for a day...
…or a really long weekend.
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by Stuck in the Plains on Jan 5, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'd trade places with him permanently.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
automatic +1
We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.
by mikeissurreal on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
If you watch the highest levels of soccer
And appreciate the intricacies and subtleties, it’s really amazing. If you’ve played soccer for any appreciable amount of time and then see Messi’s ball control and vision or Cristiano Ronaldo’s physics-defying free kicks or Rivaldo’s bicycle kick for a hat trick which made me physically ill to witness, you’d be just as impressed as watching Justin Verlander paint the black at 99 mph or Jerome Simpson do a flip over a safety (OK, the Simpson thing is always more impressive, but he’s only done it once!)
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Watching the great players play is beautiful
Watching the MLS…not so beautiful. And of course the women’s <3 <3
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So true...
Growing up with a hatred of soccer, even though my cousin started out on a soccer scholarship at PSU, I had an immense hatred for the game. Living in DC for 3 years and working with a bunch of foreigners allowed me to gain an appreciation for the game. While I’m a staunch USA supporter, I have a hard time getting into MLS, because as you said it is “not so beautiful”. On the world stage though, it is a thing of beauty, although unfortunately the same thing cannot be said of the USMNT.
by eternalpessimist on Jan 5, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
That's absolutely not true
The difference between even MLS and La Liga is obvious to the casual fan.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't raised on hockey but I get it and understand it and love it
And it was really unfamiliar when I started playing in high school, so that doesn’t fit.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
hockey is a bit easier to get into
more goals, faster pace, hitting, etc.
I’ve turned lots of friends onto hockey. I haven’t had as much luck with soccer. Likewise, I haven’t got any of my European friends to like our football.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I just sort of liking teasing soccer fans
It isn’t meant to be malicious. I really do hate horse racing though.
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by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Kenny Powers Says
In America people f*cking hate soccer, and honestly, that’s the way it should be.
I hate soccer, and I hate when people do it around me
by PhilaLion on Jan 5, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh man
a day at the track is way more exciting than your average sporting event. I mean, if you don’t personally bet on that sporting event. There’s nothing like having your own money at stake on a result to get you out of your seat and yelling “GO FOUR! C’MON FOUR! YAAAAAAAAIIIIIIISSSSSSS!”
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Similarly depressing
spending an afternoon in an off-track betting parlor.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
First horse I ever bet on
the jockey fell off out of the starting gate (no lie). It did get better after that . . .
first bet I every made at a track
hit a tri fecta. That was the worst thing that happened to me
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
he bet the horse?
Mush bet the F’ing horse….
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
The lack of commercials
is one of the reasons I like soccer.
I also like soccer
Soccer and football are my two favorite sports to watch. Baseball is my favorite to attend live and break down on a statistical-fantasy level. I also like basketball. I’ll watch hockey. Not sure why people always hate on one sport or another.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I like soccer live but don't care for it on TV, same as hockey
though I watched some hockey on a large HD TV last weekend and I think I could get into it much more with the new TV’s I loved hockey as a kid in Lancaster Pa, played all the time, a seepage area near the Kmart froze over and we would all go play, ages 8 to 18 playing. I was fast but couldn’t turn.
I just read.
It is much better live
That’s what so many people don’t get about MLS. It’s not so great on tv, but watching MLS live – even watching college soccer live – is better than watching any soccer on tv.
Philly Union’s stadium is great.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
The thing I enjoy most..
about soccer on TV is that it is over in 2 hours. I love football, but the constant stopping and commercials make a 4 hour game tedious at times.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 5, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
This is why I rarely watch the NFL lately
The whole score, timeout, extra point, timeout, kickoff, timeout fire drill is a bit too much.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
RedZone
The NFL RedZone channel is the only way I can stand the NFL now.
There’s a college version of that, but I don’t care about non-PSU college football to bother with it.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
If it weren't for RZ...
I wouldn’t watch the NFL.
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 5, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I like soccer
#COYS, y’all
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A dark thought just occurred to me
What if O’Brien is willing to work cheap and that’s why he’s being considered?
If he is jockeying for the Jacksonville job too
He isn’t going to be had for less than $1.5 mil by PSU.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
jacksonville
Apparently jay gruden has it. Waiting for bengals season to end. Gruden supposedly is getting the credit for and dalton. Jags want him for gabbert.
by Jog73 on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
No.
Please.
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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BAD BABYSITTING!
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Speaking of NFL assistants coming to PSU.
Think we have any shot of hiring Anthony Lynn away from the Jets? Especially if our new HC/OC is a QB or OL guy?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
If they wind up hiring someone good-to-great...
I will have learned a lot of things. Two of which are:
1. Don’t ever play poker with Dave Joyner or Ira Lubert
2. Don’t ever trust a single article, outside of a box score, printed by sports media
by SkellerDweller06 on Jan 5, 2012 10:14 AM EST reply actions
Lots of people making fools of themselves during this search.
Glad we’re in the “LOL look at this rumor” game and not the actual rumor creating game.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 5, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have an idea for one late tonight/tomorrow.
Be sure to check Penn Live =)
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
bill o'brien's wiki page as actively asking to be edited...
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I can't do my IP address is blocked here at school
Might work on it from home though….I need some twitter help though.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
I'll do it.
I’ll even cite one of the bullshit speculative articles as “proof” so it lasts longer. Give me a few minutes.
more male than the post office
I did it with Richt and it lasted for a couple of hours
The picture didn’t though. I actually spent 10 minutes working on that Penn State logo on the shirt.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
We need a twitterman
Otherwise our wiki jobs are nothing.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
About a minute.
https://twitter.com/#!/runthedive/status/154951170501263361
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by Peter Gray on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NICE! We got a twitterman
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
David Jones will
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
ahh the power or the interwebs
where you can make anyone believe anything
"Donor-type people"
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I fear that Joyner may be making the biggest fool of himself of everyone
I was on the side of “wait-and-see” and “they probably have an ace up their sleeve” until that NY Times article came out and quoted some agent as saying that Joyner was learning on the job.
Everyone should be preparing for the worse, in terms of the cache of the hire at this point.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Who needs "cache??"
Cache didn’t work for Charlie Weis at Notre Dame or for RRod at Michigan or for any number of hires where the team picked somebody that the fans had heard of.
Having said that, O’Brien doesn’t make much sense. Just looking at resumes, Clements and Roman are both far more qualified. As is Bradley, for that matter.
I don’t trust any rumors. They’re almost all obviously from agents. If I were an agent, I’d be making up rumors too. Anything to help my client’s leverage.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I'll give whoever they hire the benefit of the doubt
and I agree with you that cache is over-rated. But some of the other folks around here seem ready to buy extra pitchforks if a homerun-type hire isn’t made. And it seems unlikely we’re getting someone, who at first glance at least, is a homerun.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Isn't it cachet?
Hell, every computer has a cache.
I wasn't all pitchforky
Until Tuesday. Now, its been way too long and their screwing over loyal guys on their staff. It had damn well better be a homerun hire, and even then I don’t know how justifiable it is.
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Every AD is learning on the job
If an AD, any AD, has experience hiring a football coach for that particular school, it almost invariably means that the guy he hired before just got fired. So obviously, he/she did it wrong the first time.
And nobody has hired a football coach at Penn State, a unique situation even if this Sandusky disaster hadn’t hit, in 45 years. 45 years. In real life, that’s a long time, but when you think about how much college football has changed in that time, it might as well have been the 16th century.
People can bitch about Joyner, but who, exactly, would they suggest is more qualified to lead this effort? The guy is one of PSU’s most accomplished athletic alums ever. And he’s said that they’re getting advice from all sorts of football people.
I’m not saying I know for sure that the next coach is going to be great, but nobody has put forward a realistic suggestion for a better way for PSU to have done this.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I would rather have someone who wasn't on the BOT.
That’s a place to start.
That's not realistic
I think I understand your point, but at the end of the day, the board has to sign off on it, so as much as we might not like the board right now, there’s no way to get around them (which, in the grand scheme of things is how it should be. It’s better than having the governor just rule the university or something like that). So they had to pick somebody they already knew and trusted.
They needed somebody who they could plug into the job immediately. Somebody who could drop whatever else they were doing and do this. Who else fits that description?
The fundamental problem is that this is an enormously big job that has huge implications for the health of not only the whole athletic program but the university (football helps donations, PR, admissions, etc) and yet because of the insanity of college football recruiting, they’ve had very little time to make this happen and are hiring from a pool of people who are all working 24-7 at their current jobs right now. In any other business – or any other part of the university, for that matter – you would not hire a new manager of a $53 million, high-profile operation within only a month or two of the firing the last guy, especially if you just fired the CEO and the COO too. You’d probably take four, six, maybe even 12 months. In any other business, that would be considered insane, because it is.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
This deserves a rec for perspective.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
you could have experience hiring other coaches for other sports
or your coach could have gone on to greater things…
The NY Times quote indicated, to me at least, that Joyner’s approach has been unconventional and not in a good way.
The truth is we won’t know for 2-3 years whether or not the person they hire was a “good hire,” and I’m willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt until he calls a reserve or end around on 3rd and 3 from the opponents 22 that loses 15 yards.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Could you link this article?
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by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don't trust the NY Times on this
Their coverage of this whole affair smells a lot like “oh look at those rubes in PA with their barbaric games.” F them.
The problem with getting people with experience hiring other coaches for other sports is that the one guy we have around who fits that description is Curley.
Also, I believe the non-Joyner members of the group do fit that description. Lubell was key to getting Cael and maybe others. Russ Rose knows something about coaching in general too, I think. And they probably called others for advice.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
it's a pretty fair, straight journalism piece
the intimation that Joyner’s a joker is mine.
I don’t think having someone without AD experience prima facie meant that the search would go poorly or be poorly handled. Increasingly, it seems like the balance of the available evidence is that the search has gone poorly.
At first, I expected Joyner and Ira to do this quite well. No that all of the best guys — Munchak, Petersen, etc — are effectively out of the running, it seems like the search has been handled poorly. Of course, this is just speculation, but of course, this is the internet where everyone else is incompetent and i’m a genuis.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Haha, love the last sentence.
The thing is, the search will be very results oriented and backwards looking. If the hire is acclaimed, then the search was brilliant. If it’s BOB, then it was the most poorly run effort in all of academia ever conducted.
As always, that won’t make either of those conclusions true, it could very well be that this is a masterfully run search and no one decent is interested. Or it could be the bumbling mess you contemplate and they could get lucky with one great candidate that imposes their will to get hired and succeeds.
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You're forgetting option three
which is that the job really IS as toxic as the media conspiracy said it is (and I said it is, but those jerks don’t invite me to their parties so I can’t claim to be a conspirator).
They could just be doing their best with an impossible mission.
There is something that could very well cure the toxicity level thought.
Money. I think Joyner, Lubert et. al. would have to take some blame in that scenario by not paying enough to assuage potential candidates’ other fears.
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Not buying it
When you’re talking about the difference between a couple million and a couple more million, I don’t think the couple more million is going to be enough to persuade somebody who thinks the job is toxic to come on board anyways.
Now, could you hire somebody like ME for a couple million dollars that you couldn’t get for my current salary? Yep! I’ll be right there!
Ok, well, don't agree.
A couple million per year can erase a lot of doubts no matter how much you are already making. There is a price for everyone, in my opinion.
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Gonna come out and say it
I dont get the toxic thing. Maybe its just me, but I think its a perfect situation to be in. For an outsider, you dont have to worry about scandal issues because your standard response could be “I wasn’t here when that happened”. Sure, he’d have to answer a couple of dumb questions every now and then, maybe deal with some negative recruiting, but he has a built in excuse if he doesn’t do well. Its a get out of jail free card. And if he does a good job, he’s set himself up for a number of great opportunities, or can stay and Penn State and look like a hero. I think the benefits far outweigh the perceived negatives.
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Total get out of jail free card
A kid accepts a free tat?
Hey, at least he didn’t molest any kids in the shower! Next question.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
kids misbehaving on your watch would be the one bad thing I could think of
as you’d be continuing the “football over everything else culture” if you tried to give them some reasonable discipline, but if thats the case then just suspend him and you’re the good guy again. And honestly, the general public is going to forget all about this in a year or two. And after that you get a touching Rinaldi story about the revival of Penn State with you at the forefront and piano music in the background.
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Year or two?
I give it a few months tops. Something about Presidential elections coming up I think. Will probably steal the focus….
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
I've always felt this way as well...
And a big thing is ego, these head coaches have plenty of it. Imagine if they led PSU shortly to a Big 10 Title or even the the National Championship…they would be labeled the savior of the program, of the school. Whoever the next HC is would love that possibility, they’d take a bath in it!
The big question is if the BoT is utilizing all of this as a selling point.
Right
honestly, if Joe had just walked away with no scandal, I would think less coaches would want it. Right now Joe is painted as the bad guy and you can start over completely with little repercussions from the fans and media (media especially).
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This line of arguent through here
is pointing straight at Little Nicky’s ego.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
My point
is that if there are 10 potential great hires and only 9 of them think it’s a toxic position…
then it’s not toxic.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I get what your saying
I just think it would be the opposite position. 9 out of 10 think its just fine. Maybe a guy who’s well established and a football god like Meyer can say “no thanks”, but he could literally get a job at just about any school in the nation as well. And for boatloads of cash and whatever else he wants.
A somewhat unproven guy could be in the ultimate buy low sell high position. And chances are he could demand a much better salary than he is probably worth.
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I also don't get the toxicity
In the immediate aftermath it seemed like everything surrounding Penn State was dysfunctional and completely negative. Although some of the actions since those first 2 weeks have pissed us off as fans, I can’t say they have seemed completely incompetent. And the hate has already died down (internet comments not withstanding).
I would expect anyone under consideration for a Penn State HC job to be smart enough to realize that those first 2 weeks were not representative of what this University is, or of what the next several years will be like.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
If that's true
and it might, just give up and hire Bradley.
Stop turning over rocks hoping to find some genius hiding out.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly, if that is the scenario...
It’s what they should have done all along as I’ve pointed out below.
That possibility exists
But its pretty damn low. I don’t buy that PSU is a toxic program.
Especially in light of the fact that most of our commits are remaining committed to the school. If it was really that toxic I’d imagine all of their 18 year old peers would have shamed them into decommitting.
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
link below
here’s the link
the quote i’m referring to: according to agents who have been dealing with Penn State, they have spoken directly with Joyner, not with a search firm. Instead, Joyner, an orthopedic surgeon, has been learning the world of coaching hires one phone call at a time.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Things I don't find credible:
(1) The NYT
(2) Agents of someone in a job search
Not necessarily in that order. It also is the writer editorializing that he is learning one phone call at a time.
That said, if it’s O’Brien, I agree with the whole thing.
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do you think there is any chance we have even considered the computer that beat Ken Jennings
by gumbercules on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That computer turned us down. We are moving on to backup plan Deep Blue.
more male than the post office
by WorldBFat on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that is some old school shit right there
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
If he declines interest, I hear we're going after HAL.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
"Take the job, HAL."
“I’m sorry Dave, I can’t do that . . . "
by CvilleLion on Jan 5, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
I'm more partial to the WOPR.
“WOPR, let’s run a fullback dive.”
“Greetings, Professor Rambler. How about a nice game of chess?”
“WOPR, seriously, fullback dive.”
“Greetings Professor Rambler. How about a nice game of Battle Of Chickamauga?”
/plays Battle Of Chickamauga
by Chris Grovich on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I tried Chickamauga on that game.
It sucked. The Confederates always win unless I replace Rosecrans with Grant before the battle even starts.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Having been born in the 1980's
I thought the “the only way to win is not to play” strategy made it a clever movie, and then I read Bobby Kennedy’s Thirteen Days and I was like ‘these people basically just took ideas from the 60s and added a computer’.
I tried to create a Bielema rumor.
It didn’t generate much interest.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Good points.
I’m still questioning whether this unfounded rumor mill is good or bad, but after nearly two months since IT happened with no coach, I’m leaning toward bad.
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by Peter Gray on Jan 5, 2012 10:26 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
I am more worried about cut-off hoodies on the sidelines at Beaver Stadium than anything else
at this point a rancid ham sandwich could do a better job of running the offense than what we have had this season.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
I'm prepared for "Shock and Blah" whenever the choice is revealed.
And an epic thread immediately following.
Regardless, it will be better than this interminable being on the clock.
There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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@runthedive
this sounds almost like the end of the world
is it 2012 yet?
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
No it won't
These here are good times.
jtothetweet
Make sure this dead horse doesn't move while I go get my beatin' stick.
If you mean what I think, then I agree.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
What about
Bradley being retained as coach (its his dream job) and one of these guys are being looked at as an offensive coordinator? Scrap may not mind (pure speculation) that one of these NFL guys may make more $$ than him (again see “dream job” above). Again, pure speculation on my part.
Another scenario: Hire some hot looking babe to be the “coach”. Every recruit in the country will be ours! Who cares about the W’s and L’s as long as she wears tights!
OK, back to reality. Any thoughts on Jeff Fisher (sp?). IMHO he seems to be a good motivator. More than likely not coming here at the same time I was wondering….
We've made it this far...
There’s no reason that Joyner and Lubert won’t be able to keep this totally under wraps until the moment they announce.
I’m pulling for a serious press conference, during which Lubert wheels out a giant cake, from which bursts the new head coach. Show Girls form a kick line behind the cake/coach, streamers fall from the air, Lubert/Joyner high five, and coeds from the comm school in playboy bunny outfits bring out trays of champagne.
by SkellerDweller06 on Jan 5, 2012 10:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
And we find out our new head coach is Dave Wannstedt.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Central Pa will sound like the first day of Buck Season with all the guns going off.
Too bad the coroner will be too busy to celebrate.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
That was one of the dumbest moves ever
That thing needed to be announced at 8:30 am when most of the students would have been to tired to riot.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
The minute the announcement was made I told some of my coaches who are NOT Penn Staters
That if they fired Joe at 10, there will be riots. I made a cool 100 bucks off. I felt like Judas for taking it, but it did get me a big bottle of Granddad’s
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
And one hell of a hangover
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Without being political...
how does the PSU “riot” (lamest non-riot ever) get condemned as the worst thing ever, but the Occupy Wall Street stuff, where there were actually assualts, rapes, etc. gets treated as just young people showing their displeasure with authority?
11/9/11 - the day the music died.
The bitter with the better.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 5, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Because OccupyWallStreet
really HATES child abuse. PSU doesn’t.
Simple, really!
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I was floored by that too. I saw the news van flipped over I don’t know how many times. There were literally fires burning in the streets of Oakland and the response was, “Look at State College”!
You're not wrong
But part of that is just that the media was pushing this “nestled in the hills of Pennsylvania” crap about SC, while Oakland is Oakland. It’s pretty much always on fire, isn’t it? Or at least, that’s the common perception.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all.
But it’s not about what happened, it’s about what they can say happened. When the lie is more interesting than the truth….
As it is, I think the total arrest haul is going to be no more than 50 and a lot of those are just “refusal to disperse” or vague “disorderly conduct” which, I’m told, can be almost anything from pissing in the bushes to getting into a fight.
Also, a number of those arrested aren’t students. I don’t really understand who those people could be. Are their people in Altoona or wherever who troll the police band looking for trouble to be a part of?
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
When you looked at the some of the views of what was going on...
I remember that it was quite clear that many of the students were just hanging out watching the others…when I heard the media blow those up as riots, I was fuming because it was so clear. This wasn’t anything like a riot and nothing like the Arts Fest riots that occurred some years ago….now those were riots!
They have an encampment in Tyrone.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Oakland has been on fire
at least since the days of Huey Newton, Bobby Seale, Eldridge Cleaver, Rap Brown, and the crew.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Or a replay of Lebron's "Decision" Special
….or we have Jeff Fisher sit at a table in his high school gym with all his classmates around him, and three hats on the table…Penn State, Miami Dolphins, and St. Louis Rams. He picks up the Rams hat, throws it away Corso style, then dons the PSU cap.
by SkellerDweller06 on Jan 5, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Its's All A Crapshoot.......
But I think, given the circumstances, a coach with NFL experience is a good move in terms of recruiting. That may be obvious to a lot of people, but unfortunately, I don’t think you can sell the Penn State Football brand/team/program whatever you want to call it on the “Grand Experiment” notion at this point in time. We need good players and that might be hard when the good players have their choice to many schools. Maybe the , I can get you to the NFL, is the short-term bridge and differenitator that helps us weather this storm and avoid 3 or 4 “dark years”.
"Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm; yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down."
-Abraham Lincoln
Eric Watters
Atlanta, Ga.
O'Brien looks like the lovechild of RichRod and Bielema
No thank you.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
I created a twitter rumor myself
at the request of my best freind’s mom – she said with the utmost sincerity that she heard Lou Holtz’ name mentioned. She said “well, if all of these other names are mentioned, why not his? We should throw that out there”. It made us all LOLOLOL, so I tweeted it. Too bad I don’t have enough followers. I did have one reply, who basically told me I was just a little out of bounds, and told me with certainty that Tom & Clements were lining up for their second interviews. Of which I knew at least one of those was NOT happening. It was funny & sad.
by PghNittany on Jan 5, 2012 10:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
if we waited this long
For obrien or roman the bot should do just as much time as sandusky
by Jog73 on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Dear Penn State football
I hope you rest in peace, but the trouble is, you owe me forty bucks.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
Anyone paying attention to this m_mckinley guy on espn.com?
usually commenting there sucks but he states that he’s involved in the contract writing process and has been pretty consistent with what he says.
people who frequent the board seem to say he has a good rep as well didn’t just spring out of the blue like @sekrah…
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/conversation?gameId=320020213
their commenting system SUCKS but worth going through and seeing what he says…in short:
- there is a plan a (HR hire) and a plan b(bigger risk but not an nfl asst)
- they are very close with plan a, 85%, but there were some family issues they wanted resolved
- tomorrow afternoon seems most reasonable for an official announcement as the new coach might be part of the “staff meeting” rumored for tomorrow AM
let's go state
Come across that guy before on the ESPN boards.
I can second that he isn’t a troll and has been a good guy to talk PSU with. However, I’ll believe it when I see it. I trust no one at this point. No one.
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by Swiggs on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have been.
The guy’s a phony. Someone found his real identity and posted it, then deleted after the backlash from other fans. He’s a hotshot pittsburgh lawyer and went to PSU, but other than that he has no sports contract credentials at all.
But like Swiggs said, he’s intelligent and can carry on a conversation, so at the very least I can discuss things with him.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
He lost me when he said
he’s a big Joe Schad source. And that he’s written the contracts for 4 different potential hires, and that the PSU administration knows he’s on ESPN boards and is telling him what to say.
Unless he’s part of the “weed out the leaks” conspiracy alluded to above, then maybe.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
they are saying on BWI.com that the hire will be announced today at 1
Then that mckinley guy starts saying that that jives with his 10 am staff meeting.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
there would be a leak by now if there was a presser.
They would have to start getting the press in line to cover this.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I would rather it be done without press.
Honestly, just like the rest of the search seems to have been done.
Nah, if they feel it is a good guy then they should publicize it
Makes a bigger splash for recruiting, me thinks.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I think the kids will know.
Probably through Pony Express or something.
The name will come out before the presser happens.
Well, at least that’s the way it usually works…but I’d guess no press conference today. I’m guessing tomorrow or Tuesday.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
They'll know, but it can't hurt to hear the media talking about it in a positive light
Assuming it is an exciting hire, of course
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe they could put 3 NFL hats on a table and choose one.
That would be cool.
by CvilleLion on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
you are assuming they left
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
He preys on the ESPN boards
because that’s where those who aren’t intelligent enough to see through him congregate.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
And to further prove that you shouldn't believe guys on message boards,
He was 95% positive it was gonna be a top-5 hire as recently as Monday, down to 85% yesterday, and now all of a sudden “Plan A” is at 20%. Right.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
lol, so is there really an announcement today?
I can’t tell what’s real, who’s being sarcastic, if this is a joke, what?
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Extremely doubtful is my opinion.
At this point in the day, a presser would have been announced. Unless, the BoT are going after that 10p target again.
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They found that the 10 pm pressor generated a lot of local response!
I just read.
by BMAN13 on Jan 5, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
BWI also has an article which
seems to suggest multiple PSU coaches have visited Wartman. I really love this coaching staff for what they are doing under these circumstances.
by FB6244 on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Illinois's coaches threaten to boycott their bowl game.
PSU’s are still recruiting for the next group of coaches, without even knowing who that will be.
Totally different standard here.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
+1
And why I love these coaches
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
O'Brien will not be at practice today per Belichick
Presumably to meet with PSU
Shefter and Pats beat reporters say its PSU today
by boston_zenos on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Well, then it MUST be true!
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, latest flightaware
shows a jet making two trips from Columbia, SC to State College — one yesterday and one today.
Ole Ball Coach?!
Well, State College does have a nice golf course...
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
And his defense!
shudder
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine if Spurrier had both Garcia and Fera at his disposal!
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
by MainLion on Jan 5, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I can't stop laughing at this picture
Like, it’s unhealthy how long I’ve been laughing at this picture. Amazing.
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Jan 5, 2012 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
DABO would leave from Greenville, or Spartanburg where there are plenty of flights
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
Pittsburgh?
Saw 5-6 flights from Pittsburgh into SC this morning. Is this common?
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Usually, yes
I’ve seen that most days that I look. I suspect it’s Fedex and operations like that.
Got it.
I don’t check that often, so I wosn’t sure.
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
There's no regular commercial flights from SCE to Pittsburgh anymore
Your choices are Detroit, Philly or Dulles.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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True Spurrier story
At our coaches clinic each July you can count on USC and Clemson coming because they like to get in good with the high school coaches. Two years ago at Charleston, Spurrier was speaking at 4pm on the first day of the clinic, which was a Sunday, so we went to hear him talk. He was pretty good. About 2 hours later, and I know it was two hours later because I was at the manager’s reception at our Embassy Suites and it was only an hour in to the fun, and we got a photo text message with a picture of Spurrier with his head on the bar passed out at a dive bar on the beach at Isle of the Palms. He wasn’t seen again that clinic.
And remember the G.A. Mangus public urination deal? We were at Carolina Ale House with him that night, and he wasn’t the craziest person there by far. The cops just lucked into him in the alley outside taking a wiz. I walked out to catch a cab and saw him getting cuffed and stuffed.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is some epic stuff carolina...
I’d love to hear more.
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 5, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
I can't some of it might get it's way back to me
Don’t need that. But I will say that the coaches have a “good time, a real good time”
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
So you're saying..
they all get together to drink soda with prostitutes at a rave under a highway overpass.
Sign me up.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Weren't there pictures leaked a few years ago of one of these coaching conventions
I recall seeing a bunch of drunk guys in hawaiian shirts doing the limbo.
!!!
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Participating in this life style is why I went to law school
1988 – yuppie cocaine culture
2012 – you can taste all 23 flavors if you drink it slow, baby
Amazing. All of it.
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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@runthedive
One of my fantasy ideas
Is that, if Bradley leaves, that he becomes the HC at one of those nasty football powers in the WPIAL and funnels all of his stars to PSU.
Completely unfounded rumors...
I hear Andy Reid may be looking for a job, even though the boss says he’s good… and he’s got an OC he can bring with him. Apparently the OC’s kid has an arm.
Or I heard Lou Holtz was getting tired of a Pitt grad’s BS and is ready to jump back in.
No wait, Tony Dungy is reconsidering.
And Terry Bradshaw has never tried coaching, but hey, he’s got Super Bowl rings…
OK, you heard it here first – we’re hiring the East Stroudsburg coach. Although at 70 he’s a bit young for PSU.
*
No, it's Bill Cowher.
Or maybe Paul Chryst….. hey, Pitt would know how to handle two coaching searches in three weeks, right?
Plan B
I still think that O’Brien, Clements, etc. are our Plan B targets. Have they been/will they be interviewed? It’s possible. And they may have even been told they are finalists. But I still think they are only finalists if Ira’s top dogs aren’t available.
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SBN - Pittsburgh
Success With Honor
Ira's List
probably resembles the following at this point:
They’ve Done It:
Urban Meyer
Nick Saban
Les Miles
Bob Stoops
Winners one step removed:
Chris Petersen
Gary Patterson
Al Golden
Very Solid, Not Spectacular:
Mark Richt
Greg Schiano
Kirk Ferentz
No One Knows With Certainty:
Dan Mullen
James Franklin
Mike London
Tom Clements
Greg Roman
Bill O’Brien
Thanks for Stopping By:
Tom Bradley
by bscaff on Jan 5, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
are you an insider?
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
Rec'd for truth
Although I imagine you’re missing the “Good Character Guy” category, perhaps populated with Tony Dungy
365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
What happend with Richt?
Has the Richt possibility died? Has there been anything out of UGA on his status? Several weeks ago he was supposedly renegotiating his contract, then nothing, then they lose to the over-grown skunks … where is this one at?
Still re-negotiating, I believe
The fact that it’s taking this long might be telling…but if it’s Richt, why wait to announce it? His season’s over.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Flight from Georgia
I feel like such a stalker now, but this search is driving me to drink. There was a direct flight into SC from a small airport an hour south of Athens, GA on Tuesday. Could be anything, but why not throw it out there!
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Totally true
someone tweeted a photo of him wearing a PSU polo shirt.
Obviously, someone from the search committee sent him that to wear at the press conference
/internet scam’d
365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I got banned from Wikipedia over that
I had created an account called Hillshirefarmssausage and some butt hole from wikipedia banned me for trolling wikipedia. Dick.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
+1 for saying butt hole
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
by OctaShields on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's kinda funny.
Although I know they take their website pretty seriously. More seriously than the general public, I believe.
My wife teaches some writing classes for a local college and she tells her students on the first day that Wikipedia is not a legit source to cite as research. Every term someone tries it however.
I'm proud to say one of my phony edits was once cited as the reason why Wikipedia can't be used as a source by my friend's brother-in-law, a professor.
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A Federal Court of Appeals judge in Chicago...
Judge Posner uses wikipedia all the time in his judicial opinions and he doesn’t get much flak over it!
Yeah, but he's all sorts of awesome
picking out his wikipedia usage would be like telling Lady Gaga that her shoes are eccentric.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
He is awesome.
I don’t always agree with Posner’s reasoning, but his opinions are always entertaining to read.
People don't give flak.
My boss told me he’s cool with me citing Wikipedia in correspondence with the patent office. I still don’t do it. It’s all fun and games until some jackass edits wikipedia, cites his edits, and gets hit with disciplinary action.
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I just want to be a Federal Judge...
So I can use wikipedia all the time and not even be criticized for it….
I want to be a Federal Judge
because those dudes have pretty sweet jobs and are all respected and stuff. But also so I can be different than the average Federal Judge.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I can't even get a job from a headhunter right now
so I’ll table the Federal Judge plans for a couple years, at least.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Well, Good luck on the search and keep at it.
I will refrain from the usual pep talk, but I was out of work for nearly a year before I got a nice gig. Hate to sound cliche, but it is true, don’t give up..
Thanks for the advice, guys
I’ve been ignoring jobs in other locations and telling my family and friends who offer help or connections elsewhere to hold off for a little bit. If I keep hitting brick walls in my search after a little longer, I’m going to open it back up. Though I am now single and almost 28 and thus would prefer the location to not be too unusual.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Also good advice: send resumes to people and accept interviews if offered!
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Though I am now single and almost 28 and thus would prefer the location to not be too unusual.
-WorldBFat, 2009
In 2010, a single and 28 year old WorldBFat moved to a legitimately unusual location.
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Ha
I fear that if I don’t get something within the next 6 months, I’ll legitimately be practicing law in that part of Pennsylvania that is above route 80 and between Erie and Scranton.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Well, I'll take the advice anyway
and not become a red X
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Do they need lawyers in Yellowknife, NWT?
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Sadly there's not a lot of reciprocity between Canadian and US law degrees.
I checked when I was in Octa’s shoes.
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Just leak some tweets
from your agent that you’re prepared to sign a contract with someone somewhere.
You’ll have a job in minutes.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
At your cable model or router, release and renew your IP.
Instant access.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
Unless we want.........
Penn State players dragging themselves across the grass acting the fool after virtually ever routine play, we should probably forget about Richt. I think he’s a great guy, but for some reason he let’s “the kids have fun” too much for my liking.
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WHAT ARE THE CHANCES.....
we get someone not mentioned by ANYONE and is still a good hire?
the entire country has been mentioned at this point
i would be shocked if it was someone that hasn’t at least been mentioned
let's go state
Anyone remember the JIm Cantafio rumor that lasted a day?
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Halcyon days.
I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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Is Schnellenberger still alive?
Seriously. I thought he died.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Bite your tongue!
Schnelly just retired as coach of FAU.
Long live Schnelly!
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Retired, died, whatevs
I heard some story about him and got it mixed up. SOrry.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
point taken....
I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head at the moment
Am I off base...
by feeling less than satisfied and uncomfortable with all this talk in the media pointing to Bill O’Brien as our search committee’s current #1 target? I just don’t like the sound of it that we might be gladly opening a door to a coach from a team that really seems like they don’t at all mind showing the door to.
agreed.....
and i assume you just saw the same news brief on ESPN news that I did?
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
The Patriots are gameplanning for the playoffs and allowed their OC to miss practice
Not the most ringing endorsement.
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they probably don't even notice his absence
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
The two Boston papers don't seem to care much about O'Brien leaving
Part of that is that Boston, despite having a zillion colleges, doesn’t care at all about college sports. At all. It’s really uncanny.
And part of that could be that they don’t see O’Brien as remotely important to the Pats, which bodes ill.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
And why would they care?
Every time a coordinator leaves, NE there is no impact on the field. BB and Brady run the show so they couldn’t care less. You would think that this would throw up a giant red flag while sounding obnoxious sirens. You would think.
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They sure didn't seem to miss a beat
when Fat Charlie and Josh McDaniels left.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Joyner and Ira have to realize that, right?
Just as they have to realize that if BOB is the hire, the backlash against them (and by proxy, the entire university administration) is going to be deafening, right?
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
They realize that
And I doubt o’brien is anywhere near SC today
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of SC
Do any of these potential hires plan to, you know, visit State College? Have any of them ever been here? I love it, but it’s not for everyone. You’d think they’d want to look around before committing their family to this.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
That might be part of their plan
I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these rumors are deliberate leaks to see how the fanbase/boosters react. I think MLB and NFL teams do that all the time. Get a rumor on talk radio to run it up a flag pole, so to speak.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Well then, let's hope his interview goes something like this:
“Bill, we’re sorry to have wasted your time, but it seems our entire fanbase would commit seppuku in stereo if you were to be hired. We’re re-fueling the plane; it’ll be ready to go in 15.”
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
by DrewRusse on Jan 5, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to go all conspiracy theory, but...
Any chance the ESPN guys are doing this because they don’t like BOB? I mean, Bristol would be Pats territory. If they wanted to get him gone, rumors would be the best way.
they are mocking the bill o'brien rumor
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
yep
saying that we should still go after golden. I agree
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Intersting...
But Shefter seems to have such great confidence in this, I don’t know why.
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 5, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Shefter.
Can no longer take that guy seriously. He is a leader of the ESPN rumor mill.
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ah so he's just trolling us then.
makes sense
by Artiefufkin10 on Jan 5, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
If Schefter had something to say about the NFL, I'd take him seriously
but anything he says about college football is usually pretty ill informed.
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if we haven't landed him already....
that would be sweet!
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Correct me if I am wrong
but didn’t he start off doing draft analysis? Weather men have to be right more often…
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
I am really starting to get nervous it will be
O’Brian. Oh god.
Yeah, me too
I feel like reality is catching up
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
"What do you think the chances are of a school like you and a coach like us... ending up together?" - Board of Trustees
(Shown in actual attire.)
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
Jerks.
Think Dumb and Dumber tuxedos.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
The worst part about this is
whomever we hire, we have to quietly accept it with no joy or vitriol, otherwise we’re furthuring the cult of football that indoctrinates Penn State instead of thinking about THE VICTIMS.
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by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Yeah but....
I’m starting to think the length of this search was premeditated to let the dust settle, and allow the focus on the victims through the end of the season. Haters would have said “look at PSU…. they’re just moving on like nothing happened.” But they can’t say that now. I think now (in January) this hire will get attention much closer to a “typical” college hire, as opposed to being viewed as a scandalous hire like it might have been in December. Thoughts?
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well see,
you’re doing things like using reason and logic in your argument….there is no chance the media and others will see it that way.
you might be right....
but at least we’re not the leading story on ESPN now. There is no “Penn State Scandal” tab running across the bottom of the screen during Sports Center.
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
when I feel like giving our leadership an iota of doubt
this is the story I tell myself. They throw $4M after some splashy hire before the season ends (cough,OSU), then the story is, “CHILD ABUSE FOOTBALL FACTORY BACK IN BUSINESS; SEND US YOUR CHILDREN SO WE CAN ABUSE THEM WITH A HIGHLY PAID NEW HEAD COACH”
Maybe now with some time behind it, it won’t look as unseemly.
Or, they’re just idiots. Or, no one wants the job. Whatever, really.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I keep saying "whatever" too.....
but then one minute later I’m searching the internet for more information. This is affecting my life, as much I a do not want it to. I wish I could just forget about it it and be pleasantly surprised when they announce (or devestated), but I haven’t been able to walk away from this one.
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Nittany *Merle*?
You are my favorite BSD poster ever.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinkin that shouldn't bee too hard right about now
quietly accept it with no joy or vitriol
jtothetweet
Make sure this dead horse doesn't move while I go get my beatin' stick.
Pretty much.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
no I didn't
I mean, I saw the footage during that week but I didn’t know it was O’Brien. Good grief. This guy is a tomato can, right?
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Correct.
Now imagine what O’Brien would do with a McGloin/Bolden combo. It wouldn’t be pretty.
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That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
He would 95% of his time on the sidelines
Screaming at McGloin and Bolden on the bench. That’ll be really distracting, I’d imagine.
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Jan 5, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ben Jones Tweeting...
that satellite trucks are starting to show up in SC…and the Sandusky trial is months away…
by phanatic's phloozies on Jan 5, 2012 2:10 PM EST reply actions
does the truck say BTN on it?
We have a home basketball game on BTN tonight against Purdue, don’t we?
could be for the meeting tomorrow
I would assume they would want quotes from Bradley either way after the meeting tomorrow if he got the job/was told he wasnt getting it
Reporter: Can you give us a touchdown celebration, one that you would get penalized for?
Moye: I play at Penn State. I don’t celebrate.
Mother of god no.
Ben Jones is saying news satellite trucks are arriving in SC for the announcement. If it’s O’Brien I’m going to be an inconsolable baby for the next . . . I don’t even know.
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That's it, I'm getting pre-emptively upset.
This process, and decision are biggest bumbling clesterf*6$ I have ever seen in major college sports.
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Yeah, I really want to give the next hire the benefit of the doubt
But this guy stretches that…I mean realllllllly stretches that.
fuck that
irrational hatred starts now
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Incorrect.
Rational hatred. Trust me on that.
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split the difference
irrational timing on rational hatred?
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Oh that's totally fair.
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I'm with you
Fuck this, I’m leaving work to get hammered. All I wanna know is who’s coming with me?
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
If BOB is the hire and it's announced this afternoon.
there’s a 50% chance I’m getting “not-making-it-in-to-work-tomorrow” drunk tonight.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
To be fair
like Ben said, they could just be getting here in advance of the announcement next week. But still…the BOB rumors coupled with the appearance of the the media trucks is…disoncerting, to say the least.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
They are the WRONG KIND OF TRUCKS.
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You people aren't panicking enough for my taste right now.
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IM IN A GLASS CASE OF EMOTION!!
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by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Sums things up accurately
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'll believe the announcement is coming when..
blue smoke starts to billow out of the clock tower on Old Main
(like when they announce a new pope)
by dwlion on Jan 5, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't it be white smoke?
And the Blue smoke is for having not chosen the candidate? I would feel so much better if someone had a picture of O’Brien walking out and the Blue smoke coming out of old main in the background, signaling that we do not have a coach.
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I was in Rome for the last white smoke
I was actually in the middle of an exam. In retrospect, I made the right move…getting an A or A- istead of a B would have had little to no effect on my life, but running to the Vatican and being part of that will always be a memory.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Definitely the right decision.
Awesome to have experienced that, even from my non-Catholic perspective.
Im already drunk
DRUNK ON PANIC. AND BOURBON. This is really getting out of hand fast.
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
You need to melllow out
with some gin.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
please no, please no, please no
Maybe it’s not o’brien?
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I want to believe that.
I really do. Maybe there have been extensive secret meetings with Munchak, who knows? But we’re getting to the point of no return on accepting that it’s O’Brien. Well, maybe not accepting, but acknowledging.
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Less emphasis on common sense?
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The way they fired Paterno was so wrong, so unjustifiable that I told myself I would quit if they didn’t hire someone who could start a healing process and someone who would actually be competent.
Less emphasis on football indeed.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh
I really want to believe this is a smokescreen, but it’s taking off a lot more than the other rumors. I just don’t see why we’d want this guy. He’s more like a Plan D. I’d take Clements, Roman, Cutcliffe, and the like over O’Brien and I can’t imagine that crowd isn’t interested.
by kff5006 on Jan 5, 2012 2:11 PM EST via Android app reply actions
The fact
that the satellite trucks are there, and that Ben says that they’re in the wrong place for the game tonight, and that O’Brien isn’t at Pat’s practice when they have a playoff first rounder coming up is giving me cold sweats. I think I’m going to be sick….
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
I wish they were just in the wrong place for the game.
Because, you know, they’re trucks. But they’re the wrong KIND of trucks for the game. Sweet jesus please no.
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Hopefully its simply a few news outlets being extra, extra, extra prepared. Not that you would expect all that much national interest if this is indeed the guy
by phanatic's phloozies on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'm telling you people
It’s Spurrier! There were two trips to State College in the past two days from Columbia SC, so presumably one had his family on it. And there were no flights to KUNV from Boston, so did they make O’Brien drive into town? This would be the Sekrah home run hire that no one has guessed.
And I have absolutely no more evidence than what I’ve stated above.
/allwishfulthinkingonmypart
really? i'm not high on spurrier, but still.....
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don't like Spurrier
I never have. I’ll take my chances on some guy from the Patriots, and that’s saying something.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
I can't see any reason why Spurrier would want to leave USCe
SEC school with reasonable year-to-year expectations, and some of the best golfing/country clubs in the nation. I imagine Spurrier loves being down there.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
had that hunch yesterday..... i'll take him WAY ahead of BOB
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
At this point in the game
it’s last call and we’re all on the verge of blacking out. We’d take anyone over BOB
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
Home run, my ass.
Maybe if Penn State football didn’t have any class.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Is Spurrier any different from Urban Meyer?
the last “Home run” guy?
Yes, Spurrier shoots his mouth off. But if I recall, he runs clean programs.
He’s 66, so this would only be a caretaker hire anyway.
You're gone.
I can’t stop you. You’ve gone too far.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's because I'm about ready to throw in the towel on success with honor
I mean, given that Curley, Schultz, Spanier, Surma, Frazier, Erickson, Joyner, and maybe or maybe not McQueary and JoePa depending on your point of view, oh, and also Sandusky have pretty much crapped all over the honor part of things, I think I’m about ready for a refreshing change to winning at all costs and being a witty smart-ass about it.
So why not Spurrier and an “Ohio loves Outbacks” type comment?
Conspiracy time...
What if we intentionally have the BOB meeting and the appearance of these trucks are a mere coy…the REAL HC is revealed tomorrow when these window-licking journalists are expecting BOB.
Think about it, up until this point, this disinformation operation has gone off pretty much to the T and this would be Lubbard’s final act…
Irrational? Bet your ass…but I’d SAVOR a closing act such as this!!
~error~cannot compute
too much credit being given
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But it won't work if O'Brien is back here at practice tomorrow.
I never though I’d say this, but please let BOB be back here in foxboro tomorrow for practice.
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Sekrah tweeted that he's "very confident" O'Brien isn't the coach about one minute ago
All hail Sekrah!
I may or may not be Sekrah
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Let's be reasonable
If these trucks were amassing for a news conference to announce the next HC, don’t you think one of the news organizations would have said something like “Penn State announcing new head coach today at 4:00 PM. Tune here for live coverage!!”
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
That's where I'm at.
Watch the announcement be at an irrational location just to spite the national media!
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Seems reasonable.
I’ll allow it.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 5, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe
The trucks are here to hire the women’s hockey team’s crucial weekend series with URI.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
I hope Joyner announces Tom Bradley
Via satelite from the 9th tee of Pebble Beach. And then they both moon the camera, hit their tee shots, and the feed cuts out.
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Jan 5, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or
they hire Rick Neuheisel and have the press conference at his booth in the corner room
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Jan 5, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or!
They hire Cael Sanderson! Joyner and Cael do a press conference in front of a pickup trunk on a farm near Bellefonte. In the back of the truck is a gagged and bound Tom Brands. Cael releases Brands and challenges him to a wrestling match. Cael wins. Then Cael says, “I’m already the wrestling coach so I’m going to become a figurehead for Joe Paterno. Also, the offensive line coaches will be replaced by Mike Munchak and the offensive coordinator will be Chris Petersen.” Then Joe Paterno says, “Say hello to my little friend!” and gives the finger to the BoT.
And then I wake up.
"The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps."
by ReadingRambler on Jan 5, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Can the wrestling match be basically a WWF match?
With like people getting their heads “slammed” into the bumper of the truck (but you can tell they’re both choreographing the hit) and then using found weapons to hit each other flat on the back?
Which is why I'm hoping
that they just decided they wanted to get to SC early to make sure they’re there when it happens.
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Maybe Rick Neuheisel saw Jesus in a coffee stain on his Corner Room menu?
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by WorldBFat on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Calm down; O'Brien won't be the coach
It’s well known that Paterno hates the Irish.
oh, wait…….
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
You guys are all wrong...
This is our next head coach….
http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ap-femalecoach-turkeybowl
And another thing...
If after all this time they’ve decided on Bradley..what a slap in the face that is for him. Of course, he’ll be happy to take the job, but it would be terrible that the BoT went from basically telling him “you’re under consideration, but don’t really have a shot” to “well, we couldn’t find anyone better, so..you’re hired!”
What a rude, classless gesture toward a guy who has given his life to the PSU football program. Keeping him and the staff in limbo is totally wrong.
The right move all along after “the situation” was to let Bradley remain head coach, fire some of the offensive assistants, and let Bradley stay for a while to see what he can do. Then you move on if it didn’t work out maybe 4 years down the road.
And out of BOB, TC, GS, and Roman…don’t tell me Bradley isn’t the better choice! If they settle on one of those guys, I won’t be happy.
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