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by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Replace 'real good time' with ham sandwich.
by PSUinOH on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If this is true
It is time to find a new hobby.
Peace out bitches.
by PSUinOH on Jan 6, 2012 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Like heading a committee to fire Rod and David
Or starting new cheers
We Are! Ham Sandwiches!
We Are! Ham Sandwiches!
We Are! Ham Sandwiches!
Thank You! Your Welcome!
by PSUinOH on Jan 6, 2012 6:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
THIS SUCKS
Scrap would have been better
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by cityboy1989 on Jan 5, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Unrelated, but the people who originally started the chants to flip the news van were from the local HS
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
scrap's the nickname for tom bradley, right?
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
OK, you guys are hiring an offensive coordinator from the patriots
Pardon the Charlie Weis jokes, but does he have a decided schematic advantage?
On a serious note, i hope this works so your community can heal the best way possible: winning football games (except when you play Northwestern)
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
no prob
I’m also happy that Pat Fitzgerald will remain at home, where we can attempt to win a bowl game eventually
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, yeah I hope you guys do soon too.
I never really considered Fitzgerald a prospect for this job. He seems really happy at NU, and then he signed that long term deal before this year. He doesn’t seem to be the type of guy that would bail out on a long term deal. Maybe if he had a year or two left, that would be a bit different.
Odd, I thought a lot of Penn Staters really wanted Fitzgerald badly
A part of Fitz’s contract is that we’re going to spend some serious $ on facilities upgrades. If we didnt do that he (and if he overcame loyalty to alma mater) he could’ve considered looking at penn state. Fitz really liked Paterno and probably thought well of PSU too
All this is before the sandusky shitstorm
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
There is really no knowing
If you look at NFL coaches becoming college coaches it is a mixed bag. If you look at coordinators becoming head coaches for the first time at major programs it is a mixed bag.
Truth is this is a roll of the dice. Maybe he works out. Probably he won’t. The thing is he comes from the Pats and can sell that to recruits. Keeping up a reasonable talent level should be the object for the near future. Then 3 or 4 years down the line hire a for real coach. It was going to be hard to replace Paterno anyways.
As a Pats fan at Penn State I am very happy
O’Brien is a good coach and can hopefully shift the offense in a new more explosive direction. As long as he keeps the fullback passes.
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Great coach?
Handed the keys to a Porsche and he didn’t run it off a cliff. Any other accomplishments that anyone beside his wife is aware of?
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, the Patriots made CHARLIE WEIS look good.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Saying that he might not be a good coach….
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
My analogy still applies. Half the people making comments right now could call plays for the Pats. This is not an accomplishment.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
No
None of the people commenting here could call plays for the Pats. I realize, of course, that you’re trying for hyperbole, but NFL offenses — even those with Hall of Fame quarterbacks — don’t run themselves.
by tuscaloosalion on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well, obviously it's hyperbole
But they’ve had at least three offensive coordinators that I can think of *Weiss, the guy who flamed out in Denver and O’Brien) and nothing has really changed, even when Brady missed a season. They have a system that O’Brien played no role in establishing. Might as well have hired the Patriots head janitor as head coach.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
No you are perfectly correct.
But O’Brien doesn’t run that offense, Belechick does.
by ppfcpp on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Except Tom Brady calls the plays for Patriots.
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by jesse. on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No in the case of the Pats the Hall of Fame QB runs it.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually...
The Colts offense ran itself, or rather Manning ran it. They really didn’t need an O.C.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Can you give me any reason why he;s a good coach to you?
I’ve heard other Pats fans say otherwise. Plus, not only does his college track record look bad, but so does the track record of all other Pats OCs as head coaches.
Pats are good because of Bill Belichik. End of story.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I would say Belichik + Brady
But yeah, I have the same thoughts. I’m VERY skeptical of anyone else from that org.
And illegal taping
Don’t forget illegal taping.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Cameron
I’m a Pats fan as well, but you know DAMN well that Brady and Belichick run that team. Can he be a good HC, maybe, but I’m really REALLY questioning this move. Shit throw on top of it, why the HELL is he leaving New England when they are the number 1 seed in the NFL playoffs. That should really tell us something.
I live here in Boston
And absolutely NO ONE is sad or upset about the thought of BOB leaving. No one.
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Jan 5, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
nah
I work way up in Tewksbury at a “defense contractor”
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Jan 6, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
I think he has the qualities of a good head coach that the other co-ordinators did not.
He is about as anti-belichick as any of the other co-ordinators who became head coaches. He is brash, he is a good offensive co-ordinator (helping the patriots switch from a spread receiver offense to the 2 TE offense it has now) and does know how to keep some semblance of balance in the O. Belichick does not have too much of a hand in the offense, he is more on the defensive side (not saying he does nothing, but O’brien was definitely the leader of the offense coaching wise.) Mainly what he is is a way to upgrade the offense simply from a x’s and o’s standpoint. While recruiting will be a bigger challenge for him than some other candidates that have be listed, he has some major selling points with guys who think they want to go pro. The main reason that I wouldn’t like it as a penn state fan is that he will most likely go pro in 4-5 years. All in all, he’s not the best candidate but definitely not a bad choice.
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Can people tell me what there main problems with Bill O'Brien are?
I’ll try to answer as much as I can.
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I'll try to list them off:
1) The perception that he doesn’t actually care for the PSU job that much, and that his focus is the NFL, based off his agents comments.
2) The fact that his college track record is poor enough people can seriously consider Jay Paterno a better offensive mind. Jay actually has more documented success on the offensive side of the ball.
3) The track history of failed offensive coordinators coming from the Patriots coaching tree.
4) His involvement (however limited) with the GT academic scandal.
5) The idea that the Patriots offense seems to do fine regardless of who is OC and who has just left to wash out at a HC gig somewhere else. This trends that Brady and BB are more likely the reason for the teams success than the OC.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
1. I think to get an NFL job he will have to perform well. So while I do think he will be gone
in 4-5 years, I definitely believe he will give his full effort into this job and care about PSU.
2. In college, maybe. But then you are taking out the previous 3 years of BOB’s career as an O co-ordinator, which i think is unwise. He transferred the Pats from a spread to 2 TE offense quite well, and even though he had help with brady he definitely deserved some of the credit.
3. BO’B is unlike any other co-ordinator the pats really have had. He is not belichick nor does he want to be belichick. He is brash at times and is not afraid to be spirited. He is sort of like McDaniels except that McDaniels wanted to do thing Belichick’s way instead of McDaniel’s (his own) way. Bill O’Brien does not seem like he will make that mistake.
4. I will have to look into this and know nothing about it. But I would believe that PSU will be on its absolute best behavior and will allow nothing considering everything.
5. Let me first say that BB plays a very small role in the offense. Brady is a huge part of the success but that is because he is so good at execution. BOB is a very good X’s and O’s coordinator, which is something that I would like to see at penn state, because we could use a bit of a fresh new start on offense. Talent wise I can say that many of the Pats young offensive weapons developped greatly between their first and second year, and one would assume that again, even if it wasn’t all him, BOB had a part in it.
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by MetsFanXXIII on Jan 5, 2012 10:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Stop.
I feel like I’ve been tolchocked by this choice.
Seriously, we waited… FOR O’BRIEN? We pass over Scrap/Johnson/Vanderlinden… FOR O’BRIEN? The successor to the winningest college coach in history, the architect of the Grand Experiment… IS A GUY THAT TURNED HIS PREVIOUS COLLEGE TEAM FROM MERELY BAD TO OUTRIGHT ABYSMAL?
/SEARCH COMMITTEE FAIL
by mushdamma on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent
I’m not going to lie and say he was my #1 guy, but if he’s taking the helm, then I’m good.
No matter what, it’s step one in the future of the program. I certainly wish him the best.
Unbelievable
Truly awful hire. Almost anyone realistically connected with the search (Clements, Cutcliffe, Roman, Bradley, LJ Sr, etc) would be a more inspiring hire than this guy. Penn State needs someone who can recruit effectively and keep things together. Bill O’Brien is NOT that person.
How does anyone know this is bad. Who was joe paterno before he got a chance?
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by psuaar on Jan 5, 2012 11:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
An assistant coach at PENN STATE!
for 16 years.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Sure he could become one of the greatest college football coaches to ever live. It’s infinitely more likely he’ll do a mediocre job here and then move on when the NFL comes calling again. This hire makes no sense whatsoever for either party.
No, it makes perfect sense if...
(A) you are trying to de-empasize athletics, or
(B) you don’t want to spend any money.
by mushdamma on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If B was the answer, they could have hired someone from the current staff for cheap.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 5, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Or option (C)
The athletic department is looking at the reality of the situation, things are going to get worse before they get better. They need someone who will keep a few good recruits coming in and then they can hire a real coach in a few years.
Who was really going to be able to follow JoePa anyways?
He was a star player for a coach who became the head coach at Penn State
and offered Paterno a job
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by Dan Vecellio on Jan 5, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Well, at least we know he'll be gone the second an NFL team comes calling
A truly inspired choice.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Well, if that's the case
he would be fired.
It's not like PSU has a history of keeping underachieving coaches on for far too long.
/DeChelllis’d
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still skeptical
If only because I do not think this makes sense for any party involved. Penn State needs a flashy hire (this is decidedly not that). Bill O’Brien wants to coach in the NFL (Penn State is not the NFL).
Then again, this is decidedly what I did NOT want to happen, so anything to convince myself it is not true.
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Yeah, I won't completely believe it either until I see something from Penn State confirming it.
I reserve the right to be disgusted by the treatment of our existing staff members, and Bradley in particular in the mean-time though. Clearly, they flat out lied to Tom and told him he was actually a candidate. There is no possible way this guy is a better candidate than Tom Bradley. Fucking bullshit.
by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 5, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He isn't any better than LJ
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Perhaps the O'Brien camp leaked this to Mort in an attempt at leverage for the Jacksonville job. Remember, Mort is an NFL reporter.
But really, I’m grasping at straws at this point.
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It is odd...
…that all of the reporting on this is coming from the NFL reporters.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Maybe it's a desperate ploy?
I’m searching for anything at this point.
But really this just… it doesn’t make any fucking sense.
Oh, whatevs - Jacksonville
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I hope and pray this is the case.
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College Record is awful
I have heard his college record is awful. Who wants to come play for him? I hope he hires some good recruiters and coaches.
Some of our recruits have already said they dont want him as the next coach
HOORAY!
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Which means an 18 year old recruit
gets it more than the entire search committed combined. Awesome!
by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
A mentally handicapped goldfish
has more sense than the search committee.
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by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
He did say that
but he didn’t say he wouldn’t play for him. We’ll have to see what happens.
If I were a TE or QB prospect, I’d do whatever it took to come to Penn State. Other than that…who knows.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Can you really have a college record if you've never been a head coach before?
by smashtheguitar on Jan 5, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
As an offensive coordinator, his Duke teams averaged 15 points per game
Bad enough for me.
But let's not forget that the talent level at Duke
was god-awful, too.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
but Cutcliffe has been able to improve their recruiting
So why couldn’t BOB
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, Cutcliffe looks awfully good right now.
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No but he ran an awful offense
this guy is a fucking joke.We are Penn State for christ’s sake not fucking Indiana. We don’t hire guys who have never done anything. I am SOOOO FUCKING PISSED over this right now. Clements and Roman at least had shown something in their careers. At least Roman WANTED this job as a dream job. Buttonface O’Brien is the worst case scenario right now.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm not exactly thrilled, either, but I think people are overreacting.
I was hoping for a splashy hire, too, but deep down, I think we were collectively kidding ourselves if we thought we were going to get a proven, big name coach right now. Let’s wait to see what the results are before we crucify this guy.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
by icavalera on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We are supposed to be a national power, or at least not far off from it
THIS is who we hire….sorry
We are….A JOKE!
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Well now somebody is just a bundle of fun
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
can you tell I am a little pissed?
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I totally support your anger here.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Slightly
I’m terrible with telling internet emotions though
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
I am gesturing very Italian-ly
and I’m not even speaking out loud.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I wasn't expecting a splashy hire either
but there were better options out there that seemed to be interested in the job. I’ll give him a chance to prove himself, but my initial interest in the team will be diminished.
Why? is the real question is it because we had a clown running things, as the NYT reported, or is it because we wouldn't pay enough? Or is it because of PedoJerry and his 13 years of terror?
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's a combo of 1 and 3
They fucked it up big time, and this was partially because of their willingness to cave under media pressure.
Has it been stated somewhere that O'Brien didn't want the job?
Seems funny that he would have accepted it, if that’s the case. How do we know that Roman or Clements would have been any better?
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
They were two guys that called it a destination job.
Versus a guy who has actively said he wants to be an NFL head coach. Which do you think is going to put more long term effort into his position?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
It has been stated that he wanted an NFL job
and that his dream job is NFL head coach. So he took this because he didnt get any NFL head coaching jobs.
At least Roman and Clements said they it would be a job for the long haul.
While I agree with you on principle.
The Patriot’s offense has been better under O’Brien than it was under Weis and he was good enough for Notre Dame.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Oh well if it was good enough for Notre Dame...
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Just saying, the Notre Dame job is arguably the most prestigious in the country.
It just also comes along with a huge amount of baggage, just not as much baggage as the current Penn State job.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 6, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Notre Dame has only been most prestigious in their own minds for the last 15 years.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
this, exactly
they haven’t exactly been nationally relevant in quite some time. For us, it’s just been what? 3 years? 2 for top 10 finish.
Fire Dan Snyder
You were high when you typed this, right?
Thought it was 1990 didn’t you?
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It doesn't happen overnight at a place like Duke that basically has no football tradition.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
haha, he did actually post a few hours ago that the "home run's family was having concerns"
Not that I was ever believing him
If there was a home run on the line
and that person was sincere and earnestly communicating that he intended to take the job…
I want Joyner to talk about it. I want to know what happened. And I want to hate whoever held the program hostage and then welched.
But it probably didn’t happen like that.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Yeah, I didn't believe the HR talk
but like you, I am geniunely interested to learn how the search progressed. Not so I can be pissed at people, but just for purely academic reasons.
This simply can't be right.
It doesn’t even make enough sense to be a bad idea.
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by jesse. on Jan 5, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
...
Yup, we like football here in Brazil.
by GiantsBRFan on Jan 5, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
DS9 was totally underrated.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
by PSU_Buch on Jan 5, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh dear god
And I wasn’t going to drink tonight…
If it's confirmed on Saturday
I’ll have one hell of a drinkfest Saturday night. From Joe Paterno to . . . huh?
I'm not sure if it's good or bad that I don't work tomorrow
I may try to drink right through the weekend. If I’m lucky, maybe I’ll wake up Monday and it will have been a dream.
I wish I could wake up Monday and everything from Early November until now was all a dream.
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by The Heel on Jan 5, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
IF this is confirmed saturday I won't remember anything until Monday
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
I dont plan on remembering anything from now until monday
and just hope I wake up and none of it was true.
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I love how Joyner is throwing all this bullshit out there and people (Especially ESPN) are buying it
Unrelated, but you all need to go tot he games more
seriously, there was like nobody there
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions
The only reason O'Brien is hired is if Joyner & Lubert were saboteurs to the football program
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
just call me sekrah
i’ve made the following remark several times in the confines of my circle of friends
these asshats have the ability to slow-play this whole situation, hire a DIII coach with "integrity" and "the attitude they’re looking for" and set the university back 25 years.
For the glory
by lionalum05 on Dec 22, 2011 8:32 PM EST
with that being said, if this is true, shit the bed
For the glory
I mean the Purdue game, btw
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
by MainLion on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Whatever. NOW GO FUCKIN’ RECRUIT!
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh God, please no. Be false
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
by Ben16 on Jan 5, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is the last guy I wanted out of all of them.
Please let this not be true.
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Joe Paterno
C’mon now.. Give the guy a shot before you jump off a cliff… remember who the auburn fans reacted after the Chizik hiring.. that turned out alright
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by Jland on Jan 5, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Will we be buying this guy a quarterback too?
“Cause then I’m on board.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I want to give the guy a shot. Really, I do. And maybe he will be a good college head coach. But Penn State needed a splashy, inspiring hire to get people excited about Penn State football in the wake of Sandusky.
This is the opposite of that.
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Maybe the committee realized they couldn’t get a huge hire because of the scandal… they give this guy a shot… he fails, he’s easy to get rid of and then since enough time passed they can make the big splash they wanted to make
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or maybe the had better options that they turned down
and when the splashy hire was gone, they were left with him
This is more likely
But even still, Clements and Roman seemed to have interest. I fail to see a single reason this guy is a better choice. Jesus Christ, he’s all but said directly that he would prefer an NFL job. Why would they think a guy who doesn’t even really want the job is a good choice.
Tom Clemens openly sought the job.
I would be happy with him.
This, if true, is mindlessly stupid.
Bradley is still available.
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by SubLime on Jan 5, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, I just can't see this for anything other than Joyne giving us the finger
Nothing else about this makes sense.
If it wasn’t for how fucking incompetent they have been throughout this whole thing, I’d assume ESPN was just wrong. But now? Aw hell, I need a beer.
by ppfcpp on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If a Tom Bradley led Akron or Toledo
beats us in Beaver Stadium in 2013, I’m going to put my head in an industrial-sized oven.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I won't I will be there cheering on Tom
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 6, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
I have no idea
which is why I’m growing skeptical. I agree with you, Roman and Clements were openly seeking the job and I would have been okay with them. O’brien is one of the very few that I didn’t want.
Seriously Chizik is not a good comparison
He may be a great fit, but really that championship was a large part Cam Newton.
WE'RE DANCIN!!!
I'm with you, jland
Maybe not with the Chizik comparison, but with the sentiment.
The guy hasn’t coached a single game yet and people are calling him an awful hire.
Anyone willing to even consider the notion that this guy might be good?
by tuscaloosalion on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
He IS an awful hire
Please do not mistake this for anything else. May he end up working out? Sure. But that’s like when not wearing a seat belt saves someones life. Just because it worked out doesn;t mean it was a smart decision.
You don't know that
You just don’t. Did you interview him? Have you broken down film with him? Do you know what changes he’d like to make? What he’d like to leave unchanged? What his recruiting strategies might be?
Can we just … i dunno … Just not rush to judgment?
by tuscaloosalion on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I know that he doesn't even want to be here
As evidenced by his pining for an NFL job all fucking week. That’s all I need.
by ppfcpp on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What you think Joyner was having the guy break down film?
When the best Belichick could say about him was:
“He’s done a great job for us since he’s been here, I cant really speak to him in any other position”.
That means he’s garbage. Thats not praising him… its saying all he knows is he did great holding Tom Brady’s water for him.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
We'll be back here in two or three years
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 10:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
If not sooner, if the NFL comes calling.
Sadly, if the NFL doesn’t come calling it will be because O’Brien didn’t pan out. I fail to see a way where this hire contributes to the long-term stability of the program.
by mushdamma on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Over/Under
3 years at Penn State?
I’ll take the under.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
does it counts as 3 if he gets fired during the season last year but coaches all the games?
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under.
Way under.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I say...
Three years exactly. I am hoping this is a bridge hire….
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Trying not to overreact
However, there has been an alarming string of head-scratching decisions that I’ve had to scratch my head over the past three months. Head now hurting.
Your head should be profusely bleeding at this juncture.
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by SubLime on Jan 5, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HURRRRRRRR
Those dickheads who burned their PSU diplomas must have had a time machine.
more male than the post office
by WorldBFat on Jan 5, 2012 10:28 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Awwwww fuck
now I’m fucking madder than before.
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Nothing says...
Nobody wanted anything to do with this job more than this.
But that's not true...
… given the public statement by Clements, Roman, etc.
Nothing says “MALAISE FOREVER” like this hire.
by mushdamma on Jan 5, 2012 11:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so, you're ok with a guy whose agent says he'd rather coach in the NFL
over two guys who’ve said themselves that Penn State is a destination job?
Fire Dan Snyder
What are you talking about?
Where did I say I was “ok” with anything?
I was interpreting your "Nobody wanted anything to do with this job more than this."
and your “Nobody worth a shit” as saying that Clements and Roman, two guys who openly said they wanted the job, were not worth a shit.
And if that is the case, I disagree, because I think openly saying that you’d stay here for basically ever is worth more than a shit over someone who basically sees this as a steppingstone.
Fire Dan Snyder
This so much!
I may not have been thrilled by Roman or Clements, but at least they actually thought this was a desirable job.
Just b/c I don't think they're worth a shit...
Doesn’t mean I think this guy is better. I actually believe they would have been better options, but not necessarily good ones. Of course, no good options (i.e. actual real head coaches) wanted a piece of the dumpster fire that our program has (at least temporarily) become.
dude from san fran was a better option...
In my opinion.
Still not believing it until it actually happens.
by rodney20 on Jan 5, 2012 10:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
At least he actually wanted the fucking job
And wasn’t just using it to up his resume for an NFL gig in 3 years.
Clements was a better option
at least with him you could make the argument he had SOMETHING to do with Rogers’ development. This guy coached at Duke, and Georgia Tech during GTs dark years. What a joke.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Silas seems to be supportive so far...
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Silas Redd just tweeted:
Welcome Coach O’Brien!
Crap.
This is the first time I'm beginning to believe O'Brien might be it
Given, I’m still not going to believe it until he accepts the offer
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Stupar said the same, but he's gone, so...
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
wait till he finds out how much the Pats ran the ball
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Silas is reacting only to the ESPN report, he says.
No inside knowledge.
That was total sarcasm coming from Silas
Just read his latest tweet.
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https://twitter.com/#!/MomentOfSilas25
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
What did he say?
It says I can’t see his tweets without following him, and I don’t have an account.
MomentOfSilas25 Si Redd
I’m goin off of ESPN guys..
40 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
MomentOfSilas25 Si Redd
Welcome Coach O’brien!
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
I think he just said he went off of ESPN reports
I don’t see any sarcasm either
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
I thought his
Welcome Coach, was him being sarcastis with his last tweet about going off on espn guys.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Which reminds me
Urban banned tOSU players from tweeting as of Tuesday AM. I have been pondering the wisdom of that decision.
3 fewer tweets a year
and no post-season tweets next year
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by OctaShields on Jan 6, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Wisdom of that decision?
It’s like shooting the killer in a slasher movie in the head one more time to be sure. I mean it’s totally obvious.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Unpossible.
A guy who gets into hissy fits with his UGG-wearing QB? Yeah, there’s a guy who is going to lead you honorably back to national prominence.
I just can’t understand how this was the best option available. The guy is aiming for the NFL and this is just a stepping stone.
Does Cheese coach offense?
And Mayo coach d?
by bbpennstate10 on Jan 5, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
Meh
At least we will have a coach, that is all.
by psu on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
this sucks if true
O’brien:Paterno::Drew Carey:Bob Barker.
by OmarLittle on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hey Rambler,
O’Brien = de Gaulle.
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by SubLime on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He worked for George O'Leary at GA Tech.
…assuming his résumé info is accurate.
by ruxin on Jan 5, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Hahahaha <3 this comment
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
maybe if we start are coaching search for next year now we will have
a coach when he spits for the nfl
my most immediate concern ...
What will this hire do to our LBU moniker?
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by Peter Gray on Jan 5, 2012 10:31 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
+1
The only good thing about this news is all new great gifs people are posting.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Joyner
I am hoping this is more Joyner trolling
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
makes sense
The PSU community has been repeatedly kicked in the nuts the last 3ish months. This follows that pattern precisely
by moosepsu on Jan 5, 2012 10:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
You know it's a bad hire when I'd prefer Jay Paterno
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by jman07 on Jan 5, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Sadly, I was saying the same thing
I just had a feeling that this “search committee” and the ass clowns in charge at PSU were going to do something stupid like this.
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So, if this is true, does he get the defensive guys to stay on board? I may be fine with it then.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
I would guess the guys on board would feel extremly disrespected
Considering they were all in the running themselves, I say no way in hell.
Yeah
The Patriots coaches…. Yikes!
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I'm pretty sure Scrap has said he's gone if not HC.
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I'm pretty sure Joyner just had Scrap, LJ, and Vandy bend over
so he could kick them square in the nuts from behind on their way out the door.
I wrote on audibles
There can be no support without respect, and respect is EARNED. Joe and Tom EARNED my respect, and as such have my support. This guy gets NOTHING from me until he’s earned my respect as someone who can lead the Penn State Football Program that was built by Joe Paterno. Signing a contract and wearing a PSU hat doesn’t cut it.
Notre Dame.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A fractured fan base?
Let me go on record as saying, I’m behind anyone who wants to coach my team. That’s all I have to say about that.
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by OMEGAMAN on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
At least until he wants to go back to the NFL
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by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
if he coaches well enough that
the nfl wants him back, then we all win.
Thats the thing
if he actually is a good coach, he’s pretty much as good as gone. How is that a good hire for PSU? This really makes no sense whatsoever.
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by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
exactly, that's not us winning
that’s us with another coaching search in a few years either way.
Fire Dan Snyder
We are not fucking Pitt
We are not a coaching stop, until you move onto bigger and better things. Scandal or no Scandal, this is still a job people wanted. The willingness to make it a pitstop is what is terrible.
The field of coaches out there, willing to spend 10+ years at the same spot
Is really, really small. We have this ideal, but I’m not sure it really exists anymore. Joe, Bradley, whatshisfaceatfloridastate. They’re a dying breed. This is the reality of coaching. College is a pitstop for the pros.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
They exist
But I don’t think at anywhere near the numbers they may have before.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
Yeah, there are plenty of guys that seem to be strictly college
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 6, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
here's the thing
one of the guys in that “dying breed” that you listed WANTED TO BE THE HEAD COACH AT PENN STATE
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 6, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
AND I WANTED HIM TO BE THE HEAD COACH AT PENN STATE
But I also am resigned to how this was likely to work. They want a HC that when they step up to the podium, no question will ever be “what did you know and when did you know it.” Those questions would plague anyone PSU related for their entire career. I don’t agree with it, but it was likely to happen. The guys who are a)not PSU related, b)PSU acceptable and c)wanting to keep the job the rest of their lives, isn’t a huge number of people really. Which is what I’m getting at.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
I can see your concern
But Bradley’s pressers the past few months make me think he’d do ok with those questions.
and like I said
It wasn’t MY concern, I think it was Joyner/BoT’s concern and their ONLY goal so far has been to put this in the rearview as quickly as humanly possible, regardless if their decisions are good or not.
Bradley was my choice, he was the perfect person, for this school at this time and we already had him.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
No I get that
I guess I wasn’t trying to disagree with you, but rather with that point. I think Joyner and cos worries are stupid, because I think Bradley would have handled them fine.
Not arguing with you, but with Joyner -because I believe they thought exactly what you said.
This whole thing has taught me more than anything
that we need to be more aware of those in power at the school. That board has done such a poor job representing us.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
Amen brother
I think a MAJOR change is in order. Hopefully we can organize something here. Maybe there;s still time to make carolinaeasy the coach?
considering less than a third of the board is voted in
I think we have less power than we’d hope.
Fire Dan Snyder
True
However, we didn’t have the power to remove Spanier and surely our outrage had something to do with that (about the only thing the board did right). They’re humans, if they eventually get enough letters and emails telling them how horribly we think they’ve done their job, they’ll quit.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
I don't think that was our outrage
I think that was the media/national outrage.
and the media/nation won’t care about this.
Fire Dan Snyder
StL
That’s right!
If he’s the Penn State football coach, then he’s my favorite coach. That doesn’t mean blind faith, but it means I’ll be rooting for him in Saturdays.
by tuscaloosalion on Jan 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I dont know
I think its finally my turn to wish that the current head coach would leave so someone else could take the job.
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a fucking joke.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am going to assume Mort knows nothing.
That might give this time to sink in. Yeah.
more male than the post office
Mort then tweeted that...
…he got to know him at Ga. Tech, and that this is a great hire. Right.
Negative
I’m sending an email that won’t get read to Erickson and Joyner.
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
I'm definitely underwhelmed by this if it's true,
but I’m not ready to jump off a cliff. Check back with me if we have a few bad seasons and recruiting classes, though. By then, I might need to be talked down.
Ew, she's presenting like a mandrill!
We sent him some blades of grass from Beaver Stadium
Tastes much better up here!
by bbpennstate10 on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Id like to see Michigan beat LSU and have brady hoke present les miles with michigan stadium grass at the postgame handshake
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty tasty
Michy plays on a carpet!
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WHAT ARE WE, A BROWNS FORUM?
First off, lets stop overreacting
Si just tweeted
I’m goin off of ESPN guys..
HE HASN’T BEEN HIRED YET. THIS COULD JUST BE JOYNER DICKING WITH PEOPLE.
Remember, these are the same ESPN insiders who said that Dan Mullen would be the next HC. Then it was Tim Murphy. Then Eric Mangini was interviewing AND YOU’RE TAKING THIS FOR A FACT THAT O’BRIEN WILL BE HIRED
We don’t even know his staff.
Take a damn step back from the ledge. Please.
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Eh, you don't get to be a doctor without being slightly competent
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
This isn't medicine.
It’s important.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I hear ya
though ESPN seems to be quite confident now….. just splashed big on front page
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
ESPN promoting bullshit and sensationalism is nothing new to me
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How awesome would it be if this is all a gag by Joyner
to make ESPN look stupid
by psualum9931 on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't be surprised, not in the slightest
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Don't toy with me like that, yo
Seriously. I’m starting to warm up to the idea of camping out in ButtChinVille
Yeah but it might be a good idea
to get all this rage out now, you know, in case its true on saturday. You know, thursday night rage.
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I believed in you!!!! Grrrr
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
I'll just leave this here (courtesty of Laschout)
President Rod Erickson – president@psu.edu – 814-865-9462
Athletic Director Dave Joyner – dmj14@psu.edu – 814-865-1086
Nittany Lion Club Director of Giving John Nitardy – jdn13@psu.edu – 814-863-7664
Nittany Lion Club Director of Development Ken Cutler – kmc2@psu.edu – 814-863-6761
Some guy named
Bryan Kardisco in Fairfax, Virginia bought the domain name “FireBillOBrien.com” earlier today. Let’s hope he puts it to good use.
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by leeharvey418 on Jan 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Please explain
First Laschout’s overreaction to his possible hiring
Now everyone here (on what has generally been a very reasonable site), seems to be freaking out at the idea
Why is this guy a definitively bad hire? How is hiring the OC of one of the most stable and successful franchises, who is supposedly on the short-list of NFL jobs, an obviously bad decision? How is Tom Bradley such a better option? Who actually knows anything substantial at O’Brien? Why do we actually care if he wasn’t on Pitt’s (or insert your team that just fired their coach) list of candidates? Does that automatically mean he’s not a great hire?
Please inform me, because I am baffled how anyone who knows nothing about his philosophy, character, reputation and hasn’t heard him speak a word knows that he will be a horrible hire. Anyone who says Golden/Schiano/name your guy with Penn State ties is a better hire is kidding themselves because frankly, you probably don’t have a clue. I don’t.
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
He didn't do anything to establish that successful offense.
He’s flying a 747 at 40,000 feet. He hasn’t taken off, landed or flown through turbulence. IF TRUE, awful hire.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
That isn't true.
They struggled after Daniels left and from what I read as a Pats fan he actually has had a major role in designing the current offense that I think is pretty exciting to watch. At least give the guy a shot, this site has been reaching pennlive levels for the past year or two. Deep breaths people.
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by NittanyAlum02 on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
This doesn't jive with anything that I've heard about him anywhere (not just here)
Also, he wants to be an NFL coach. DO NOT WANT! I think that needs to be communicated clearly before something terrible happens on Saturday. There is still time.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
The second part I agree and is awful
The first part I’ve heard up here (in Boston) for awhile. I’m not saying he’s a great coach but I think if he’s committed to PSU he deserves our support.
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by NittanyAlum02 on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Whomever is hired will eventually get my support
I can still voice strong displeasure with the this (please, god, no) choice.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
When I hear O'Brien talk on Saturday,
I’ll know. I’ll know if he gets it, in his heart, and will stay around for awhile and make us proud. Hoping to hear that, but not betting on it.
Just saying, but...
Who actually knows anything substantial at O’Brien?
Is my first clue that this may go down the toilet pretty quickly.
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I'm going to make this short
The patriots offense is run by Belechik and Brady. No one else does anything for it (as evidenced by 8 years of success before he showed up).
His college record is AWFUL and even many Patriots fans seem to believe he is borderline useless.
Plus, he openly admits he’d rather coach in the NFL. If there’s one thing the commitee could have done, it would have been to hire a guy who fucking wants to be here.
So..
We’re making our decision on the basis of Patriot fans opinions?
Or is it because Charle Weis failed.
Both seem like bad reasons
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Daniels failed in Denver
Crennel in Cleveland. Mangini in NY and Cleveland. I think that’s a track record.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Umm
How many of those names have anything to do with O’Brien as a coach other than they shared a similar previous job?
If Penn State only hired O’Brien because of the Pat’s offense, I’m 100% with you
For now, I’ll assume they have an actual reason. A lot of people that know seem to think he’s a good hire
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
So they hired (please, no) him because of his stellar college record?
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll assume they hired him because he’s an intelligent guy, with strong perceived character, a good salesman (for recruiting) and a strong X and O’s guy. Those all seem to be good reasons.
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
I guess 16 years (or whatever it was) in the college coaching ranks don't matter
just selling in a couple hour interview. That sucks.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Except he has yet to prove he has any of those.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Failed to prove them to you
That’s my point. You know nothing about any of those things. Neither do it so I find it hard to call him a guaranteed failure
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
and neither do the people who just hired him.
It isn’t like BOB has a secret list of accomplishments that he whipped out for this interview. Anything that can be or needs to be known about BOB is out there for public consumption. The public is disgusted at this choice. So yeah, he isn’t a guaranteed failure (heck no one is. on another Pats coach gone on to be successful in the NCAA, albeit with cheating: Pete Carroll), but there were definitely better choices out there.
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Pete Carroll was a successful NFL co-ordinator for multiple teams
but a bad HC at the pro level.
Ok
As an OC for Duke his team averaged 15 points. For the record, that’s worse than PSU was this year, against ACC teams that were no where near the level of teams we played this year.
As an OC for GT the teams offense regressed AND was involved in a scandel where star players were caught not making progress toward graduation.
He went from Duke OC, to Maryland RB coach, to Patriots “offensive assistant.”Not even a position coach. Then he got promoted because Brady and Belechik run that offense, and all he really does is call some signals on Sunday.
Like 8 Belechik assistants have failed as head coaches. None from this millennium have succeeded.
Shall I keep going?
DUKE – that’s sufficient response for #1
You’re stretching to associate him with a GT scandal
I tend to view his coaching acension as a positive sign that one of the best NFL coaches (I hate Belicheck btw) hired him as OC
Again, NONE of the former coaches histories have anything to do with O’Brien as a coach. That’s a very weak argument against him
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Bellicheck tried to go with [VACANCY] as his offensive coordinator.
He eventually had to promote O’brien instead.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
1. FIne ignore that they had a terrible offense.
2. They still had a regression in offense when he joined. Not a good sign.
3. Yes, it absolutely does. Because it points to the fact that NONE of them were actually responsible for the success of the Patriots offense, Belechik and Brady are. Therefore, we shouldn’t use the Patriots success on his resume.
When you remove his stint with the Pats, there is literally not ONE bright spot on his resume. Seriously, give me one positive about this guy that doesn’t involve Brady.
The fact is…
You and I don’t know anything about O’Brien. I understand that there are reasons to be skeptical but he seems highly regarded in NFL circles. That should give us at least reason to give him a chance to speak.
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Who are these NFL circles?
Chris Mortensen? What do you know about this guy?
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
What do YOU know about him is my question (sorry to answer a question with a question but that’s my initial point)? Nothing. Nothing. You know Charlie Weis and Duke’s record. That’s it. I’m guessing that people that work with him daily are know more.
It’s been widely reported that he’s on the list for NFL HC vacancies. Google it, its been reported by enough people that I don’t need to back it up.
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
And you notice none of those teams picked him up?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right
Also widely reported that he wants to be an NFL head coach. If he’s coming here, then the NFL passed. And we should follow that unspoken advice and do the same. I do not want Jacksonville’s leftovers.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well if he was the next coach of the NFL Penn State team
I might be excited. Too bad such a football team does not exist.
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He clearly isn;t that highly regarded
Consider the fact that he has openly stated he wants and NFL job, I’m assuming his coming here means no one gave him one.
And again, his admitting this would be just a stop for him on the way back to the NFL is enough for me to not like it at all.
This I agree with
I’m concerned about his long-term aspirations.
But I’ve learned its a really bad way to hire people in real life to try to assume what they’ll do long-term.
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
However, since the thrust of your argument in his favor is that “we don’t know anything about him” and cannot presume he will fail, it can likewise be stated that this was an exceptionally poor decision to hire a man with stated contrary ambitions about whom “we know nothing about.”
by mushdamma on Jan 6, 2012 12:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
To start.
His record of coaching anybody other than Tom Brady is awful. And Tom Brady was good when he got there. Second, he’s done nothing but stump for NFL jobs the past two weeks. Three, he’s been an offensive coordinator for one year and finally, it was with the fucking Patriots.
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He coached at Duke
Pretty sure not succeeding at Duke doesn’t automatically mean you’re a bad coach
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
ol' ball coach
Turned Duke into a 1 loss ACC team (in conference) in 3 years. Spurrier set the bar high.
Cutcliffe is doing a damn good job too
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
He's 3-9 each of the past two seasons???
And 15-33 overall?
Did I miss obvious sarcasm?
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
No but if you would see the changes he is making there and watched some of their games you would know..
I only have two players getting recruited there and have gone on 3 trips to their place and meet the man and watched him coach.
I KNOW NOTHING! There was the obvious sarcasm.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Oddly, I think you’re point is the same as mine. You can say that there are reasons beyond Cutcliffe’s record why he is a good coach.
I’m not saying nobody here knows anything – if you actually know something outside of O’Brien’s coaching record, then please share it with me because I don’t. Pointing only to his Duke record, Weis failures or fact that he wasn’t on everyone’s list, all seem like bad reasons to write off the guy at this point.
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
*your*
That drives me nuts to see other people do it
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
I am looking at what he did and how the teams did when he joined them
His only real success was with an established 3 time super bowl champion team.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Fine
I’ve read your analysis in the past and you clearly know football.. much more than me. I won’t argue if you feel he’s not qualified to be the coach on that level.
I personally don’t know enough. I have a feeling that most people don’t either. Maybe I’m blindly assuming that the decision was made on an actual analysis of his football coaching ability by the committee. That could be a very incorrect assumption.
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
He might have gone in their and blown them away, which if he did that great he should do well.
But bottom line is wherever he went in college the team sucked. No, he wasn’t the head coach, but guess what he obviously didn’t help things too much either. I am so pissed off right now I can’t think logically and I am going to do the smart thing and shut up. I hate this hire and that is that. Now pour me four fingers of granddad in your cleanest mason jar, I am putting the call in now to work I won’t be in I am taking a mental health day.
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by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
When was it, exactly...
that “You don’t KNOW he’ll be bad” became a compelling reason to hire anybody for anything?
by mushdamma on Jan 6, 2012 12:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
You answered yourself there.
Who actually knows anything substantial at O’Brien?
All we know is he’s the guy that looked like an asshole yelling at one of the NFL’s best QB’s, and is routinely unwanted in game planning sessions for the offense. This is coming out of a system that has produced two utter failures in OC turned head coach. He has a college history in which his offenses have produced historically low numbers in the ACC.
That’s all we know about this hire right now.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
This is false
Because the average fan doesn’t know his name means jack. He’s well known in NFL circles.
by 16andCounting on Jan 5, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
I made absolute no comment about his name cachet.
I stated nothing but his complete lack of success anywhere not involving Tom Brady as his QB.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
WELL KNOWN IN NFL CIRCLES BY WHO!?
You keep saying how well known in NFL circles he is… now say by who.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
He was defending a young wide out that Brady was unfairly reaming out.
Awful quality in a coach.
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by NittanyAlum02 on Jan 5, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How did he look like an asshole?
He’s a coach and Tom Brady is a big boy. You can chew out your QB when he throws even an incredibly stupid INT. That doesn’t make you an asshole
Well
our recruits dont want him, he rides the coattails of Belicheck and Brady, he’s been a lump in his very limited experience in college, would prefer an NFL job, and we waited 60 FUCKING DAYS FOR THAT.
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by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As for his character...
He threw a temper tantrum on the sideline when Brady didn’t run the play he called
And you know for a fact that Brady was right?
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
No, but that's not relevant
He’s having a temper tantrum on the sideline, not a guy I want to see on our sideline. Passion is great, hissy fits are embarrassing
And Joe never threw a tantrum.
He chased down that referee a while back. He was always inBig Red’s face. Give me a break. If Brady deserved it, so be it. I don’t actually know.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Can't argue with that.
Doesn’t everybody want to hit Tom Brady?
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by jesse. on Jan 5, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Brady is cocky and arrogant, like most good QB's
Some times you need to get into their ass a bit. I wouldn’t put too much stake in that one encounter.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Not true - do you work for espn?
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by NittanyAlum02 on Jan 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
watch the playoffs
When the pats offense doesnt miss a beat in the playoffs without him, that will be a pretty good indicator of his role
by moosepsu on Jan 5, 2012 10:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well hiring the Pat's OC worked great for Notre Dame when they hired...
…Charlie Weis.
Hrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggg
by Cock D on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Please tell me
Please somebody please reassure me that they didn’t just hire the OC of a “genius” offense just because Penn State’s offense has been mostly lousy recently.
Please oh please somebody tell me that they didn’t hire an NFL assistant coach and not a college coach for PR or some other dingbat reason.
Please please please tell me they didn’t have to settle for this guy because he was the only one who didn’t laugh Joyner off the phone.
Oh pretty please tell me they didn’t just hire this guy quickly because he was (1) available, (2) wanted off Belichicken’s staff, (3) was a carbon-based life-form and (4) available.
For the love of all that’s holy, please somebody tell me the Board of Trustees had less to do with this than I think they did.
Well that settles it....
the special “Old Granddad” 114 Proof bottle that was bought for the bowl game in honor of Joe (his 6’ cutout was bartending in the man cave for the game) was quickly put away after the first 7 minutes of the game Monday…..maybe it’s drank tonight in memory of the Penn State Way?
by va2pennstate on Jan 5, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Ohio State still sucks!
Ann Arbor is a whore!
by bbpennstate10 on Jan 5, 2012 10:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
and they’ll both own us as long as this guy is our HC.
Resident Tim Couch Apologist.
by Dawg Nuts on Jan 5, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yahoo Sports still hasn't said anything.
At least with the recruiting scandles they seemed to be pretty accurate.
Meh
That is how I feel. I will support him and while he may not have a great record coaching in college it is always possible he turns it around at a school like PSU who can get better recruits. Time will tell.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
And Schefter just tweeted that O’Brien will finish the Patriots season. So no immediate naming of staff or recruiting. This hiring hurts.
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-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST reply actions
That's insane.
This cannot be true.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Because this isn't a destination job for him.
Again: awesome.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
That would make no sense since Joyner has said he wanted a coach in place to work with recruits. If they make the SB then signing day will have come and passed…
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
hmmmm, that makes me think this isn't real
i can’t see us actually allowing that to happen.
This might actually be good news
I have a hard time believing Joyner would be ok with that.
http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/status/155134024409563136
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-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
That solely makes me believe Joyner is in fact, dicking with ESPN
Or O’Brien is positioning
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS MAY BE TOTAL BULLSHIT, THAT IS MY ONLY HOPE
And if it is, I’ll laugh, God help me, I’ll laugh like a little school girl.
But if these people took 6 weeks, threw Tom Bradley under the bus, and then hire this guy I will be beyond livid.
BUT… I think it’s bullshit.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
Had he punched Brady in the face...
..I would have been okay with this hire, because that has always been a dream of mine.
Nope. Sorry, I lied.
I need to be pissed off for a while longer. Especially if it’s true that he’s finishing out the season with the Pats.
Good thing students are home for break, right?
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
They'll have money from home...
So they’ll be able to get good and liquored up first.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
You know what? I don't blame them
If true, I may just riot on my front lawn (see drink outside and yell at cars until neighbors ask me to go inside.)
by ppfcpp on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
our new offensive gameplan
MOAR TIGHTENDS!!!
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
Sounds like a gay porno.
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by mvrck on Jan 5, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Coaching the Pats in the playoffs
He’s going to coach the Patriots in the playoffs. So much for a last recruiting press. Someone tell me we aren’t screwed please.
I'll somehow be able to talk myself into this hire
by this time next week. But right now, I feel a little let down. Only time will tell. Welcome to Happy Valley, Bill. Don’t fuck this up, you jerk.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
An idea
Let’s all rush to judgment. This approach always works well.
I used to be fair and objective with those calling the shots at Penn State
And then the past two months happened.
seems fair
BoT rushes to judgement when we want them to take their time, new coaching search takes way too much time and makes a lackluster higher, so we get to rush to judgement. Everybody loses!
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Except we haven't made any decisions based on that judgment
Just complained.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
If this isn't true, I bet someone is laughing their ass off right now at this meltdown
I’m serious: Until I see the presser, I don’t believe this at all.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
me too
optimism now completely gone, after deteriorating beginning right around Nov 7
Fire Dan Snyder
Ditto
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Remember: this is still in the “sources” stage of things. Wait for the school confirmation, first.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 10:59 PM EST reply actions
The thing is, Clements and Roman DID want the job
So did Bradley and LJ.That;s what makes this so bad.
That's what is odd.
Why O’Brien? What is so striking about his resume or the shit track record of NE assistants. None of this makes sense.
_______________________
Again, If true I'mtaking it as a big middle finger to all of us
From Joyner, with love.
Also, if true I’m assuming they had Munchak locked up and the minute Russ Rose left the country Joyner fucked it up.
And that, to most PSU alum/fans is fucking dumb.
by ppfcpp on Jan 6, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
People will pay the bills if the hire wins...
Whether he comes from within or not…and the University was not going to saddle itself with the PR nightmare that hiring from within would have caused. Anyone that truly believed otherwise was delusional.
I think you severely underestimate the alumni backlash
Is that you Dr. Joyner?
You honestly believe the alumni will give a shit if the new coach wins?
I don’t imagine I’ll hear complaining if this guy wins double digits.
That's a big if...
and you are ignoring the backlash that will occur before he ever coaches a game.
The University is immersed in a molestation scandal...
I honestly don’t think they’re worried about the possible backlash hiring this fool may create.
if they're worried about funding the athletic department
they should be worried about such backlash.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Jan 6, 2012 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No.They don't.
The football program brings in like 85% of the athletic departments budget. They need to be worried about alumni backlash.
The only option to get around this is to use university funds. And trust me, as a guy whoworked for PSU fundraising, they DO NOT want to do this. PSU take a lot of pride in the AD running in the black.
I'd be willing to bet it will remain in the black.
We shall see.
Fairly certain the entire AD is funded through football?
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I said 85%
I don’t have a source on that, but I’m pretty sure it;s fairly accurate. Football income counts for about 85% of the entire athletics department. BBall makes money, and Vball and wrestling break even. The rest count on football to save them.
It's more like 95%
Basketball is nominally profitable. But that’s it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
No that isn't settled yet
If he is signed to less than 1.5 mill I would argue they wouldn’t open up the check book to get a quality coach. His salary will tell us alot about what we looking for.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Fair enough.
But if we were just trying to bring in a stop gap, this isn’t comforting:
jakemkaplan Jake Kaplan
ESPN’s Adam Schefter reporting that Bill O’Brien will continue as Pats offensive coordinator throughout playoffs. Still no word from PSU.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
A stop gap would have been Bradley and some new hotshot OC.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
Worst. Hire. Possible.
I can’t think of any more positive way to describe it.
I am a Penn State Nittany Lion, and I played for the legendary Joe Paterno, and more importantly, I am a man because of it. - Lavar Arrington
Jerry Sandusky would be the worst hire possible.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I didn't count him as possible
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Just objectively
JS can coach. He’s a sicko, but he can coach.
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the same thing.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
I remember when everyone was convinced Les Miles was going to Michigan
And then BOOM Rich Rod
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions
So everyone is convinced that Bill O'Brien was going to Penn State
And then BOOM…a worse choice takes the job? lol!
by Mr. Rosewater on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Who's left that's a worse hire?
Eric Mangini?
Dooley?
I mean…fuck. Can we call up Indiana State’s head coach and see if he wants the job instead?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I would take Dabo Sweeney over Buttface Bob
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
And I also remember ESPN reporting
That Mizzou was moving to the Big Ten, it was a sure thing, they just needed to get the details worked out.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
Texas to the PAC 12 was a sure thing too, remember that?
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Chris Mortenson isn’t making me feel better about this. Weis coached the offense as usual and only recruited/hired his staff over lunch breaks/free time.
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-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions
To be fair
Weiss had a lot of lunch breaks. Like four or five each day.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
God
Just try to imagine those interviews, as Weis is stuffing his face and chewing. Gross
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
（╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Fuck this.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
by 06Lion on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Excuse me for one moment, and hide your young ones,
Are you fucking kidding me?
I cannot fully comprehend this. Penn State is run by a bastion of fucking idiots.
That it all.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
by MainLion on Jan 5, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Yeah well, wait until he feels this backlash at his town hall meetings
Seriously, I’m thinking of taking off work so I can go to the one in Philly.
ME TOO!
I thought from the beginning it was BS they weren’t. There are a ton of alum in the area. But it might be worth the drive to go to the Philly one now.
Meet me in KoP.
I’ll be the guy with a suit coat, tie, no pants, and a pitchfork.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
by MainLion on Jan 6, 2012 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No pants and a pitchfork you say?
Sounds like you’d make a good headcoach!
Given, if he is hired, then I'll do a double facepalm
Terrelle Pryor style
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:04 PM EST reply actions
Let's just say.....
for arguments sake that he is indeed the hire and the Pats go on to the Super Bowl—-then he will be available to start putting his staff together and recruiting after February 5th….Bastion of effing idiots, indeed!
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
And that is one thing that makes me doubt this. Joyner has said he wanted a coach in place in time to work with and meet recruits. So to take that chance after saying that does not make sense.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
recruiting
If O’Brien could be tied up until Feb. 5th with the Patroits, does that mean some of the current staff stays on board and continues the recruiting trail?
by runlikeanantelope on Jan 5, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions
I smell a Jay Paterno comeback baby!!
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
If nothing else, LJ Sr. & Vandy
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
That's about the size of it.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Jan 5, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
It just struck me that Illinois made a superior hire.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Pitt made a superior hire three coaches ago.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Which was what
Like 3 weeks ago?
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by AriesGD on Jan 6, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also:
Arkansas STATE
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Anybody notice how we haven't commented on this yet?
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions
Do "we" ever comment?
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by kijana's acl on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Well, last time O'Brien was brought up, Joyner shot it down the next day
Wouldn’t surprise me to see the same here
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
I think that pretty much guarantees it
we like to not say a word when shit is hitting the fan.
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We said a lot of shit the last time shit hit the fan
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Here's my issue...
I’ll give O’Brien a chance like I would with any incoming coach, but I don’t think his leash is long. It’s not the guy that infuriates me the most. It’s how this whole process has unfolded. It’s Joyner’s arrogance and the fact that he was unqualified to handle this search.
We waited two months with reassuring comments and we end up here. We end up with option K after two months? And you pick a time to pick a guy when he’s a coach for the AFC favorite Pats and allow him to finish out the year in the NFL. If the Pats make it to the Super Bowl, that pretty much goes to national signing day. Goodbye 2012 recruiting class. Goodbye credibility to Ira (thanks for Cael, fuck you with this one).
_______________________
THat's what makes no sense...
He could have hired that guy at the beginning. the only way to snub other coaches who may have had some interest is for someone who is a major coach…not this guy. Why would they hire such a stud for wrestling but a total nobody for the cash cow of the university? makes no sense. Someone with a large ego isn’t going to go for small fry
*EPIC FAIL*
If this is the best we can do, we could have just kept Bradley
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Welcome to State College, Coach O’Brien. Please remove Jay Paterno from being quarterback coach.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't know if this would actually help the offense at this point.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I’m positive it would help recruiting and development of a better-than-average quarterback. Something Penn State’s been lacking these days…
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
because him not being around to recruit is TOTALLY going to help out recruiting. That definitely makes sense.
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You’re missing my point, actually. I don’t know about you, but I’d rather go be coached by someone other than Jay Paterno if I were a college quarterback.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'd rather be coached by someone who has shown competency coaching.
2005 and 2008/2009 far outweigh anything that this guy has done.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
If I were me, which I am, Id want a coach who doesnt want to bail for the NFL as my coach
and actually plans on being the coach after being hired as the coach, and not coaching a different team. But hey, lets blame Jay right now because this hire IS TOTALLY GONNA FIX ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS.
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Who are you referring to?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
BOB
has said he wants to coach for the NFL. So, like skarock, I’d actually want to play for a coach who wants to be there for the long haul.
Fire Dan Snyder
Either or
One of two things is happening:
This is BS, in which case not only do we get a better coach (probably) but ESPN is fully exposed. Awesome beyond hope.
Or
It’s as bad as it looks and I’ll just have to stop watching football for a few years.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Agree.
Given the pathetic handling of everything else, I’d imagine it’s the latter.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Not the players fault..... remember that. We're still PSU.
by Nittany Merle on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
if true this sucks beyond all else. I’ll support the players and the team and, yes, the new coach (until/unless he proves unworthy of our support). I WON’T support the Board or that effer Joyner.
Fire Dan Snyder
I've only had 10 beers and I want to throw up.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I look forward to going to bed, waking up, and eventually finding out tomorrow that this was all a bunch of BS
Mark it down: this is bullshit. I’m calling it right now.
Anyway, the flashlights eat our human power grids, our souls if you will. So i destroyed them, and if a few precious panties were burnt or soiled in the reckoning then so be it
I'll join you
And I’m glad I am
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Well, they wanted to go in a different direction from JoePa
and couldn’t have gotten much different than BOB
And wasn't it the Patriots HC job that Paterno turned down many years ago?
so PSU HC > NE HC > NE OC….yay…
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that was the Steelers?
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Both
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
The NE folks even offered Joe partial ownership of the team if he coached there
He would have been rolling in piles of money had he left. I guess he had better things to do.
by smashtheguitar on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Turn boys into men? Educate?
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Eat Lasagna.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Anyone who thinks
Joyner is somehow screwing w/ESPN on the O’Brien rumor is a moron. Keep sticking your head in the sand and try to think of rumors that were reported.
When did PSU win a bunch of natl championships and run a great offense over the last 10 yrs? New slate, I’m excited the coach will be under 80 yrs old.
by Wildcatamounts on Jan 5, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
2005, 2008 for the offense.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
That Michigan game in 2005
Was what kept us out of the NC, Damn Lloyd Carr and his complaining on the KO return!!
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Should PSU keep JayPA and Galen then?
Seems the offense is getting more and more dysfunctional every year. Qb development has been awful (see Bolden, Rob at TicketCity Bowl)
by Wildcatamounts on Jan 5, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone suggest keeping them?
I’m not sure what your point is. So you would be happy with ANYONE? Weird logic.
Just that Offense has been big disappointment...
and am looking forward to anyone who changes up the dysfunction. My choice would have been Jon Gruden, but looks like that ain’t happenin’.
by Wildcatamounts on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
People seem to be for change
The backlash (or at least mine) is directed at the BoT. Why wait 2 months to hire him when he might be coaching until February? Why shoot down a report on Saturday and then hire him on Thursday? Why give off the impression that we will get our guy? The Penn State administrators continue to make me scratch my head.
2009 for the most part as well.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Yep, exactly this
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
And
if he stays with the patriots til they’re done, what happens to the recruiting class this year?
Why is Tim Curley still employed by the University?
It ceases to exist
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
What recruiting class?
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
Duly noted, and agreed
This is our guy. HIS people are reporting it. It’s a done deal and the big boy reporters are spreading the message, not the Cory Giger or David Jones run-of-the-mill mud sharks!
Finally, the Big Ern is above the law!
by MillerBoi on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Jeez, talk about an overreaction...
Let’s give the guy a chance, eh?
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I think everyone on this is willing to give him a chance, but...
We could have hired someone soooo much better….
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Like who? Seems to me that this job was pretty difficult to sell, considering the current circumstances surrounding the university.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think the BoT screwed this up...
I think the right people could have done a much better job at selling this job (assuming this is all true of course)
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Clements, Roman, Bradley, Schiano, LJ
Seriously, candidates who actually think PSU head coach is a good job. All better choices.
by ppfcpp on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Possibly. All we can do is speculate on what those individuals actually think of the job as well as if they’d actually end up being good fits.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Three of them have openly said they want the job and it's career position.
And are you seriously asking if Golden or Bradley would be a good fit?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I don’t think I ever said that…
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Uh....
Clements, Roman, Bradley, Schiano, LJ
All we can do is speculate on what those individuals actually think of the job as well as if they’d actually end up being good fits.
My mistake on throwing Golden in there, I meant Schiano, who is an ex staffer.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
When you say “candidates who actually think PSU head coach is a good job”, does that imply that O’Brien doesn’t think that?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
It implies his agent was on record this week saying he wanted to coach in the NFL.
As opposed to guys saying “Man I would go coach at Penn State until I couldn’t coach anymore.”
One of those statements seems just a bit more dedicated than the other.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I see. I’ve been away on vacation with limited access to internet for two weeks and just got back today, so I haven’t been reading up on what everyone’s agent is saying or what specific coaches express more interest in the position than others.
One thing that everyone is going to have to accept is that the days of having a coach stick at a school for the real long-term are outdated. Not that coaches don’t remain with one school for a long time anymore, but nobody will be able to match JoePa’s tenure. And while it’s completely understandable, it will still be difficult to accept as we could see a revolving door of coaches over the next 10-20 years, potentially.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
No but when given (hell not even) equal opportunities:
Why take the one that says he wants to be somewhere else over someone that at least says the right thing?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
That’s a fair question. Not sure about the answer. It doesn’t make sense to commit to a guy that might be trying to pad his resume with a Penn State resurgence for a future NFL gig over other guys that would kill to be a Nittany Lion coach for life.
I guess time will tell.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, if there is a Nittany Lion resurgence.
He can go with God and we’ll move on. I don’t see ambition as a bad thing.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Well put
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don't believe people are expecting him to match JoePa's tenure
But they would like a guy who would be interested in staying at least 10 years. That is not an unrealistic expectation for a college coach at a major program, and even some middling programs
golden just got locked up at miami
by LincolnParkWildcat on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
When talking about Miami, you have to be more specific about the term "locked up"
Golden got a contract extension.
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Showing support for his players by getting arrested?
That is commitment. Sorry we couldn’t get him.
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Why wait 2 months for this hire?
Especially when he will be coaching through the playoffs.
Maybe they really didn’t set their sights on him until recently… I don’t really have an answer to that question.
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." --Rogers Hornsby
by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
They waited 2 months because they weren't expecting to be looking for Joepas replacement
Fellas – it was going to take some time to find the right guy. These other programs had time to prepare to shit-can their coaches and had contingencies already in place.
We weren’t that fortunate. Let’s not be too quick to judge.
Finally, the Big Ern is above the law!
by MillerBoi on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
really?
a program with an 85 year old head coach had NO plan on finding a successor in place? No, what really happened is this turned into a toxic job, and even the people who originally would have been fine with it got turned off after hearing how toxic it was.
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
especially since this was the last year of Joe’s contract…I think most of us were kind of expecting this to be the last year anyway. So if we were, you know THEY were.
Fire Dan Snyder
Unfortunately, a couple of the "they"
were either fired by the BoT or indicted for perjury. That’s a pretty big hole in the succession process.
by CvilleLion on Jan 6, 2012 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Three o them have already coached for PSU
The other two said PSU was a lifer job.
I'm not saying we could or couldn't...
But if anything, criticize the BOT/AD for how this went down. Don’t criticize O’Brien for a job he hasn’t even started yet.
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Yes, you are right...people here aren't mad at O'Brian, they are fuming at the BoT
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe I'm just having trouble differentiating the hatred
But it seems to me like a lot of people are mad at both/everything.
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people are mad at Joyner and the BOT
For their continued incompetence and our inability to do anything about it. It’s such a terrible feeling to just be utterly helpless while some jackasses burn something you’ve loved.
If true, O’Brien will be fully supported in some time. But for right now, there were SO many other better choices.
by ppfcpp on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is exactly what I mean
“Some jackasses burn something you’ve loved.”
Come on now, if you wanted to support O’Brien you wouldn’t be talking like that. I know you’re mad at the BOT but that’s not supporting him at all.
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I'm not supporting him now
If he’s the coach, I will… in time.
But he is such a bizarre move it can only be explained as the committee failing miserably. I fail to see ANY upside in his hiring. That to me, when combined with what we’ve already seen since IT happened, is evidence that Joyner and co. may really be trying to kill the program.*
*note I am angry and drinking. There is hyperbole in the above statement.
Not true...
Our disappointment lies with the BoT’s choice, but it’s not a reflection on O’Brien. Everyone here is going to support him as HC, if he is named as such. I know I will, I will definitely give him a chance
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not
supporting a guy who openly pines for the NFL. He and Joyner and Lackey can all kiss my white Irish ass.
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
I will support him
but we can still vent. The one thing that irks me right off the bat is that it’s known that he aspires to be an NFL head coach. It’s admirable to have high aspirations but probably best to keep to that yourself when you are being mentioned for a college job.
I will probably come to this conclusion eventually....
but for right now my answer is: NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Not mutually exclusive
We can give guy a chance and still agree that this doesn’t make sense.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't hate him
Yet. It isn’t his fault if he gets hired into a great coaching position. The blame and my hatred lies squarely on Joyner and Co.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
I don't hate O'Brien
I hate the idea of O’Brien.
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by kijana's acl on Jan 6, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Someone get a carrot nose!
We’ll take care of this guy.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
by MainLion on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Also known as talking out of their asses…
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by Chris McKeown on Jan 5, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
answer: none
as hell be fucking COACHING THE PATS INSTEAD OF STARTING HIS NEW JOB WITH PSU. AWESOME HIRE GUYS.
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All I can say is I am happy I have South Carolina season tickets
We might not have the best of traditions, or the cleanest of records. But at least we have a coach who has accomplished something.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
I hear he still holds the course record in Gainseville.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Yeah two nattys, and turned USC into a winner for the first time ever.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'm actually a decently big Spurrier fan...
Just not at PSU. I grew up in Florida following the Gators during his hey day. Do I think he’d be a good fit here? Fuck no. But he’s a good coach that gets a lot out of his players, despite my trolling otherwise earlier.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I don't want him at PSU either, although I would take him over ButtonfaceBill at this point.
I was just saying I am glad I have other interests on Saturdays.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Good news, I may be moving to work at UW soon.
I’ll have another team to let me down completely!
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I bet Spurrier can put down a lot more than 2 Nattys
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Same with VT right now (for me). VT is not as well-liked around this board, but I enjoy watching Beamer…basically Paterno Lite.
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-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
As a Gamecock grad...
I am always thankful for the HBC.
Do not believe they want to de- emphasize football
I think this was just lip service from Erickson. If they didn’t care about football they would have trotted in some old coach who’s been around the block (davie, mason, etc). Instead, I think that the search committee thinks they have outsmarted everyone and hired the next great mind.
Why would you hire someone who’s never run a press conference, never talked to a booster, unless you think they are delivering value in some way? If they wanted to de-emphasize football, they would have brought in a guy who can run a press conference and talk to boosters.
by InScoresOfOtherGames on Jan 5, 2012 11:19 PM EST reply actions
because they are dipshits
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
#OccupyESPN
Follow @134Lounge
by skarocksoi on Jan 5, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
this is probably the most accurate thing
I don’t necessarily think they WERE thinking.
Fire Dan Snyder
Well said
It looks like a case of overthinking the situation.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So how in the world do you spin this
if none of it is true? Where would the accountability be for ESPN?
Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z
There wouldn't be
And Dave Joyner would become my hero
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
So my wife
…who knows little to nothing about football, just said “If they can’t get a good coach from some other school, why don’t they just keep the people they have?” So there you go. My wife is better at being the athletic director than the actual Athletic Director of Penn State.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
by 06Lion on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Well.....I'm not thrilled....
But I was disappointed when the Steelers hired Tomlin too, so you all have that going for you.
"Distinction will be his paramount object, and although he would as willingly, perhaps more so, acquire it by doing good as harm; yet, that opportunity being past, and nothing left to be done in the way of building up, he would set boldly to the task of pulling down."
-Abraham Lincoln
Eric Watters
Atlanta, Ga.
Well this makes me feel better...
@sekrahSekrah Sports
If this news is true, I was fooled. And I apologize for wasting everybody’s time. It wasn’t my intent. I’m truly sorry.
Anyone following some anonymous backwards name on twitter...
should have known better from the beginning.
Dark Knight feeling, die and be a hero-or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.-Jay-Z
I really think.....
that we are not going to have coaches that stay here for 61 years anymore….we will be just like everyone else now and keep a coach for 4-5 years when he can either move up or be fired like the rest of their ilk. Face reality Boys and Girls, it’s gonna be different no matter who the HC is. Aside from retaining TB, it doesn’t really matter at this time who DisJoyner hires….he’ll be gone shortly…..this will be a stepping-stone job from now on.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
CALLING OUT ICE
You kept me from jumping….
WHY DID YOU DO THAT?!?!?!
I could’ve jumped and at least not seen this when I wake up from a nap!
He hasn't been hired yet
His hiring would make no sense. I wouldn’t believe it till’ he’s on the podium, accepting the job
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I will find you and hug you if you are correct
For now I’m sticking with: NOOOOOOOOOOO
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Joe Paterno Apologist®
by letsgopsu on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
If this is true
The first NFL job that calls, he is gone
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
It's all good...
he went to Brown like JoePA. that’s synergy!!!
Just pissed about...
the fact that he is finishing out the year with NE. Seriously, just waiting for the current guys to bounce while guaranteeing that anyone who had us on their list drop it off immediately. PSU was set to host 13 recruits on Jan. 14th. That just happens to be the weekend the Pats are playing in the divisional round. Awesome.
_______________________
Anyone see Todd and Herbie?
Blackledge and Herbstreit looked dumbfounded when talking about this tonight…. they both had “questions” about this hire….. not so much his football IQ, but his understanding of Penn State. They mirrored my feelings.
John Barr reporting from State College
I don’t think John Barr on ESPN really believes it either
by runlikeanantelope on Jan 5, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Barr was whining about Penn State not being transparent.
Like the school is supposed to immediately confirm a rumor for ESPN instead of holding a press conference, talk to players, current staff, etc.
Yeah, what a sanctimonious prick
I turn to an ESPN news report for the first time in months and I get greeted with that joker. I guess it served as a good reminder of why that network blows.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
by LAPSU on Jan 5, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This would be a good time
For Matt Millen to cry on the air again.
by Jitterbug on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAhahaha..hahaha…ha…sniffle….sniffle…whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
I don't trust ESPN
Until an actual news outlet can get some confirmation, I’m treating this as a rumor.
According to Yahoo! Sports, O’Brien just interviewed for the job today.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-pennstate-coachsearch
It’s possible that he was offered the job on the spot and accepted it on the spot. It’s also possible that this is a bunch of misinformation.
If true, I’m unimpressed, but not outraged.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions
I shouldn't be suprised.
This is by same group who received word of a pending GJ investigation and apparently decided to put off worrying until the shitstorm hit.
This is by the same group who found it acceptable to dismiss a legend by telegram and phone call.
This is by the same group who professed transparency then painted the glass black.
I … am … so … pissed … now.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
How the F can I make garbage money doing what I do
AND THESE IDIOTS ARE MAKE BANK BEING MORONS!!!!
GHUIKJHGHYUIIKJMNJGHUKJNMBGHYUIKLMJNBVGYUILK
I can't keep up with this thread
but wanted to go on record: Hate the hire. Not renewing my tickets. Calling Athletics first thing tomorrow to let them know.
Dave Joyner pinned the sheriff’s star to his own chest, tromped through town like a pompous ass, and took a big crap in the radiator on his way out the door. Good luck filling the Beav next season, a**holes (sorry, women’s lax).
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
by PSU_Buch on Jan 5, 2012 11:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wait 'til it's official
You can also just take the money you’d spend on football and give it directly to other sports.
I don’t have football tix anymore but I give a bit of my modest income to PSU baseball, soccer, hockey, wrestling, lacrosse, etc.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good suggestion
and yes, I’ll keep my powder dry until it’s set in stone. I do need to give myself a little cool-down time, though I doubt I’ll change my mind. The arrogance, pomposity and dismissive rudeness of Joyner really is the salt in the wound for me.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Yes, it must be remembered
That Joyner was a member of the Board that was responsible for naming him Athletic Director (a position he otherwise had no qualifications for), aka “pinned the sheriff star on his own chest.”
Though this is rare in present day society, Joyner is 100% accountable for this.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
This bothers me, too.
Nice to see the team finds out after the fact, as with Joe.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
It turns out to be true.
Joyner ought to resign immediately for a) screwing up this search from day 1 and b) allowing sources to break the story before alerting players and coaches. Classless.
_______________________
So which one is the bigger Fail?
If this is true, there are a lot of “questions.” If this is false, there are a lot of different, equally important “questions.”
Seeing as how they are trying to take the moral ground, the bot is the bigger fail.
If they are screwing with the media it’s going to backfire at some point. If they hire ed dechelis’s little brother and don’t tell anyone then they are hypocrities. Hypocrites either way.
I guess Joyner's resignation
would be tantamount to him being fired, since he gave himself his job.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Bauer says that Bradley still hasn’t been informed of decision. Still some hope for those that aren’t happy with the hire…
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:38 PM EST reply actions
Just means he hasn't gotten the telegram.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
It's tacked to a Gumby's Pizza Box, along with a "Thank You" Michael's gift card.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
Right, it's a 50 dollar gift card...
….with $23.74 left on it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Or the messenger with the number to call
Why is Tim Curley still employed by the University?
by 3Yardout on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If they let him know in person, but fired Paterno over phone, I hope the students riot. Again.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm done.
This pack of fools has just cut off its nose to spite its face. It’s sickening. Bill O’Brien should have never been even given an interview, let alone get the job. If he’s the best we could do, then Bradley or LJ should have been given the job. Honor left State College some months ago, and success is following close behind.
Bottom of the Ninth. Down three runs. Here's the 3-2.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
So…low?
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Funny.
I pictured this year’s version with Howard clutching his ruptured Achilles. That’s where our “home run hire” went.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 5, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
This is way more ruptured achilles
than it is smirking resignation
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Mike Munchak...
I’d like to extend a big old thank you to Mike Munchak. When your alma mater needed a stabilizing force for head coach to re-energize the program and stay true to the Penn State way, you just couldn’t leave that precious Tennessee franchise. If you led Penn State through this mess and back to prominence you would have been a legend in HV and we would have been loyal to you forever. Hope for your sake that the Titans are just as loyal to you as you were to them, especially if that young team you have doesn’t make the playoffs the next three years.
Had to get that off my chest. Man, this sucks.
by sdm5065 on Jan 5, 2012 11:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
I told my brother that he will be lucky to last three years at Tennessee given what I saw this year.
He could have been coach for life at PSU.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
He did a decent job bringing that team back this year after last year’s debacle. If CJ had a better year they probably would have made the playoffs.
While I agree with your last sentence, I think he can be a very good HC at Tennessee.
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't knocking him, I just think the nature of the NFL is that they always think the grass is greener.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
It's unfair to Munchak
..to blame him for not coming to Penn State. He’s been with the Titans organization for nearly his entire career, just like all the PSU coaches on staff right now. It’s that kind of loyalty that I admire, since it’s so scarce these days. If Coach O’Brien IS our coach (and I’m not convinced that this is official yet) I hope he takes us back to the top and remains that loyal to us.
That's petty and uncalled for
Mike Munchak had nothing to do with this mess.
Blaming Munchak?
He went to PSU for a few years, he’s been with the Titans since they were Oilers. That’s a really long time for the NFL, it’s Paterno-esque really. He’s proven over and over that Tennessee if his life, I can’t blame him in the least for wanting to stay at the job he’s probably wanted his entire life.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
Please don't blame him
He showed loyalty to the Titans. As much as I’d have liked to see him come home, I respect that decision.
it was petty and reactive...
I’ll be the first to admit that. I just really like Munchak and thought he was our best chance at luring a big name due to his Penn State ties. I always had hope he would change his mind and I’m just disappointed the way the search turned out. Just saying, loyalty from NFL owners to NFL coaches without big time success on the football field is unheard of (unless you’re Andy Reid, which is a whole different conversation). I understand he’s been with Houston/Tenn ever since he left PSU and has a strong connection to the franchise, but his potential for career-long job security was much higher at PSU.
by sdm5065 on Jan 6, 2012 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
As someone who lived in TN for the last 8 years (up until September)...
I have to say that if there is one organization in the NFL where you’re likely to get some loyalty, TN is the place. Fisher was the longest tenured coach in the NFL.
And Nashville is a great city to live in and I would imagine coach in. It’s smallish, doesn’t have a lot of the problems other cities have, but still has enough culture and things to do to make it fun. Fans also don’t have completely unrealistic expectations even though football in that area of the country is a pretty big deal. And, uh, the weather is very nice…
Also, most people in TN expected the Titans to be in the running to get Andrew Luck (rightly or wrongly), so as much as not making the playoffs might be a disappointment, there’s a general sense that Munchak did a really good job this year given the situation he was handed.
I still would have been very happy with him coming here, but I don’t blame him for staying, especially because I’m sure the TN HC position was his dream job.
Bauer says that Bradley still hasn’t been informed of decision. Still some hope for those that aren’t happy with the hire…
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions
Well
This should at least be an interesting weekend to be in State College.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Tractor Supply on the Benner Pike restocked their pitchforks.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
Hope he does better than I think he'll do.
And a hearty “fuck you” to Dr. Joyner while I’m at it!
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
I'm telling you all.....
It doesn’t matter who is hired at this point…..DisJoyner screwed up the recruiting, screwed the Program and it will takes years till it’s better again. He is/was useless as a head of a search committee and let’s just face it, the 2nd coach hired after Joe is the one that will probably succeed. Anyways, we’ll be going through this quick sand every 4-5 years.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
that's my only solace.
We’ve known forever that the HC hire following JoePa is likely going to be a dud no matter what. I guess we’re just trying to expedite the process?
by The JuggerNitt on Jan 6, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Let's see
Michael Robinson plays 3 more years in the NFL. Then he puts in about 2-3 years before he is named some sort of position coach. Then another 3-4 before he’s an OC. Then after 2 or so years as OC, he can come take the Penn State job for the rest of his life. He’d be about 40.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I cannot fathom that Joyner would say
that it’s okay to not start right away. I’m really having a hard time believing that part of it.
Questions
1) how could they vett the guy this quickly?
2) how would the guy see the operation to know to take the job?
3) wouldn’t they need to get the administration to approve so quickly?
PSU is now officially a Basketball School
Son of an Infidel.....Eater of Vegetables!
by joefromboalsburg on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 PM EST reply actions
While I love the PSU wrestling/Volleyball/Hockey teams...
That would be extremely….
BOOORRIINNGGGGGG!!!
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 5, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Not boring
Hockey isn’t boring.
PSU is also a rugby power.
The NCAA needs to bring back boxing. PSU was good at that.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 6, 2012 12:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I continue to refuse to believe this until it happens officially, but just in case.
Good night.
more male than the post office
this is meant to be helpful.
welcome to the real world of CFB. For the first time in 46 years (or thereabouts), PSU is hiring a new coach.
welcome to the typical fan reaction to your new possible coach. Please name me more than 2 fanbases that have gone “woot woot” over their recent coaching hire. I invite you to visit fansites at the relevant time period for Miami (FL), Florida, Minny, Michigan (twice), tOSU (2000), Tennessee (actually LOLing at their hiring ineptitude), UCLA (gawd, what a nightmare), Notre Dame (20 years now of nightmare), etc.
again, welcome to the real world of CFB. You have had the honor of avoiding this for a very long time. You are in a new world; please begin to get accustomed to the temperature of the water.
next, please note the Giant Pink Elephant in the coach-hiring room better known as the Devastation That Is Jerry Sandusky, a horrible fire-breathing people-eating dragon of destruction. please…. you had to know that the sex scandal was going to -—- um -— complicate things.
next please note the well-know “rule” that the “guy that follows the GUY [Paterno] fails” and it is better to be the “guy that follows the guy that follows the GUY.” Your next great coach is waiting until the new guy fails. Maybe the new guy won’t fail. But some of the better coaches decided to sit it out to avoid being the guy that follows the GUY.
fwiw, ESpin -— gawd I hate them -— is being supportive. Regarding Brady, the spin here is “hissy fit.” But during the basketball game, the ESpin announcers spun it as O’Brien being the guy that “stood up to Brady.” PSU can use all the good press it can get (even if from ESpin).
all I’m saying: if it’s O’Brien, welcome your O’Brien overlord and hope for the best.
Again, this is meant to be helpful.
Most of your points are spot on.
Except the fact that by all accounts we had at least 3 candidates that looked at this as a lifer position, and pass on all three…for…well, what looks like not much.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Exactly
We just need somebody to keep things going for a few years until things settle, but this hire is risking making things a lot worse.
If he fails, I hope he fails huge – Ty Willingham at Stanford huge – so that the administration will see clearly that they need to axe him.
The worst case would be limping along at 7-5 for 10 years.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 5, 2012 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would take Ty Willingham right now.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
That's what I'm saying.......
We may be screwed with this choice. And when you change coaches every 40 years or so, it’s hard to get it “right” in the eyes of all concerned….but I digress and I’m going to bed hoping that this will be better later on in the day….good night nurse!
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the concern
But if true, this is one of the worst ways the coaching search could’ve played out.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
I'm only 65% sure this is happening
THe other 35% of me is telling me that the news came from ESPN and they have not a single god damn clue what they hell they are doing on even the slowest of news days.
That the players and Bradley haven’t been told yet tells me this is either not happening or that Joyner and the board are even bigger assholes than I imagined. The lesson should have been learned after firing Joe over a telephone.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
The problem is
After what has happened, either could be right. The one thing that hs me leaning towards BS is that he’;ll stay with the pats all season. I just don’t see them being ok with that.
Did Mort actually say where he got this information from?
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
"Top Men"
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 5, 2012 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Top. Men.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Top. Men.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
by LAPSU on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I would actually be interested
In finding out who has been leaking this O’Brien stuff like a broken sieve. This whole process has had had the secrecy and decorum of a banana republic coup.
by Jitterbug on Jan 5, 2012 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was just thinking
How funny it would be if all of the “inside sources” are just other ESPN staffers
Then he’ll blame us for believing it.
"When I put on my uniform, I feel I am the proudest man on earth."
-Roberto
by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 5, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Let's just PLEASE not be Michigan
and crucify the guy before he even sets foot in State College a la RichRod. If nothing else, give him a warm welcome so that the next coach after him thinks “Hey, those people get behind their coach no matter who he is”
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
Apples and orangutans
RichRod came in with baggage. O’Brien (if this is true) will come in with crickets.
People are upset at Joyner and the inept administration, not at the no-name coach they’ve allegedly settled on after a 1d20 roll.
by tonycpsu on Jan 5, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
People are on here already saying he has no talent, this is just a pit stop before the NFL, then we're doomed to mediocrity
Just give the guy a chance, that’s all I’m saying.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
I will give him a chance
But I won’t be watching that chance, or spending any money to see that chance, or giving a shit about that chance.
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Then you're not really giving him a chance
If he fails, it means the young men that bust their ass on that field fail too.
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 5, 2012 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't mean I will be watching
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 6, 2012 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Most of what I've read re: mediocrity
has been of the “die is cast” variety — the legacy is tarnished, recruits have decommitted, and the program has lost its soul. None of those are things a newbie head coach can turn around in the foreseeable future. This guy could be the greatest young head coach in NCAA football, but he can’t undo what’s been done.
+1 for summing up the feelings of thousands in such a concise way
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
You never forget your first.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I wish I could...literally it was that bad
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Tom Clements is a much better coach than O'Brien
And he is very good with qb’s, just look at rodgers, and his backup whos name escapes me, and has interviewed, allegedly 3 times already. He is not as good as this guy? What did he actual do in foxborough? He didn’t develop brady, he doesn’t plan the games, what does he actual do? Yell at brady every once in awhile?
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Serious question
Has this been reported by anyone other than Mort? Is this another example of everyone re-reporting the same one person over and over? Please someone say it is,..
Mort was just quoting the Wiki page from this afternoon.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
so that makes worldbfat a top man?
God what is this world coming to?
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
CBS
is reporting that a Pats source is saying that he’s leaving NE for Penn State. Still, I’ll believe it when Joyner confirms it and I see O’Brien and his chin in PSU gear.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
I have to assume plastic surgery on that thing is part of the deal.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Jan 5, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Didn't a pat's source
Also ssay he was staying throughout the playoffs?
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
Look at the bright side: Penn State will never lose a quarterback recruit to Ohio State. “I worked with Tom Brady” vs " I worked with Tim Tebow.".
by psuhockey on Jan 5, 2012 11:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I bet more people know who Tim Tebow is than Tom Brady.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Wow.
That’s kind of nuts.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Recently, Google trends haven't even been close.
http://www.google.com/trends?q=Tom+Brady&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=2011&sort=0
http://www.google.com/trends?q=Tim+Tebow&ctab=0&geo=us&geor=all&date=2011&sort=0
Not sure if that actually supports my position or not, but if it comes down to relevance and brand awareness, I’d go with Tebow.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Uh huh...
But while I hate him more than I love my son, he’s actually…ummm….what’s the word I’m looking for….hmmmm….
Good.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Try this then:
I turned Tim Goddamned Tebow into an NFL starter.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Look.
If I have to go into an NFL game with a shitty quarterback, I want it to be Tim Tebow. But that’s about it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Agree with you there....
He is good in certain systems, but if he faces a killer D, or a really good D-Line, he is exposed…
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 6, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
He's good in certain systems.
College systems.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Don't get me wrong.
I’m not saying Tebow is good. But if you’re looking for name recognition QB wise, I don’t think Meyer gives up an inch on this guy.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Well that opinion is comical.
Brady has been put in conversations for GOAT.
Tebow is possibly starting his last game ever this weekend.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
More "people"
Or more “elite high school football quarterbacks”?
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
i feel sick to my stomach right now…this is absolutely awful for this program…we could literally be ruined.
I want anyone other than this fuck. Cant they just hire Richt? For the love of jeebus.
This is honestly terrible. Im more just furious how the last couple months have been handled all around. And frankly, i’m thrilled for Bradley and the rest of the current staff for not being back…purely because I wouldnt want them to have to go through any of the BoT and Joyner’s bullshit any longer. Fuck everything right now.
I hope they all go together, to a nice classy school
So that I can start following that schools team.
now that ESPN has made the announcement
the bot feels they have the greenlight to actually make an offer to OBrien
If he wears a god damn sweatshirt on the sidelines with the sleeves cut off that will be the shit on top of the shit that was thrown on the shit
If I had to choose today between the moral integrity and character of Joe Paterno and the politicians and commentators criticizing him, I would pick Joe Paterno, hands down, no contest every time. - Franco Harris
by carolinaeasy on Jan 5, 2012 11:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Start slumming the sidelines?
I start burning things.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
Right.
Somebody better by this ass-hole some ties. Quick. There’s an idea, once he’s hired we should all send him Penn State ties, as a show of support, and as a fucking threat.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Jan 6, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Now this is actually something I could get behind
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 6, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
I'll throw in a pair of khaki's and black shoes.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I'll throw in a shotgun and a shovel, and a car for Joe to get to the stadium in time for kickoff.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
by MainLion on Jan 6, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The thing that serves as both compliment and threat
perfected many years ago by Italian mothers.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
So what's the over/under on wins next year?
I say we win 7, crappy bowl game…but then we win that bowl game…so we end up 8-5.
Man, way too high. The way guys are gonna decommitt aftet this?
I say we’re lucky to make a bowl game.
Honestly? Based on his track record at Duke and GT
And how I think recruits will view this… yeah. I do. Plus, the message is just terrible to the current coaches, fans, and current and ex players. It’s just a big fuck you guys. And I think that attitude will hurt a lot.
I don't think it'll be that bad
for immediate recruiting/scholarship athletes.
The dudes from the class of 2012 that are still committed REALLY REALLY want to come to Penn State. If they’re on the offensive side of the ball, they’re probably happy with this hire. If they’re on the defensive side of the ball…well, we don’t know who’s going to be over there yet, so we can’t say.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
Is he at least a good guy
Despite the blow-up, Brady said good things about him.
Even I’d he’s not the most qualified, I pray that he’s at least a decent guy. Nothing would be worse than getting a guy like Todd Graham who both sucks and acts like an ass. I’d rather have a classy failure like Dechellis.
BTW, he never said he preferred to coach in the NFL next. His agent did. Right?
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 6, 2012 12:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
His agent said something like
He’s not interested in the Penn State job. He wants to be an NFL head coach.
Sorry, I messed that up
He said he was interested in PSU, but that he’d prefer NFL head coach.
And if thats the truth then i want him to be the coach even less. If you’re not 150% into this position, you should not be taking it.
Well, it's what his agent said
Like someone said earlier. if his agent is dumb enough to say that, then it’s enough for me to be pissed.
That wouldn't trouble me as much
If he turns this into an NFL HC job, it means he’s succeeded. Then we’ll be in great shape for a proper coach. Not ideal, but not damaging.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 6, 2012 12:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Except for the part about the whole ditching the school in the middle of his contract.
Meaning we have to scramble and find another coach, with no warning, etc, etc.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
If he was in conversations with Jax
then his agent was doing his job. We don’t know what O’Brien feels.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
If your agent is dumb enough to make that comment while you're persuing the PSU job.
You’re too dumb for this job by not having a better agent.
Seriously. We are a fucking RABID fan base when we want to be. People should know not to say stupid things around us by now.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
I'm going to go to sleep here in 15 minutes, hoping and praying that this was a move on the BOT's part to gauge reaction.
And that Joyner and his ilk are sitting here posting as a few of the supporters, wondering why we’re so upset. And they’ll realize that OH GOD WE CAN’T HIRE THIS GUY and move on.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
You are actually already asleep
Because you are dreaming if you think the BoT is that clever and calculating…
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 6, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
No.
Just drunk.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
You know that dream
Where you go to work/school/the store and you look down and you aren’t wearing any pants?
That’s the BoT.
Dream??
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 6, 2012 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I actually like that dream.
Thanks for ruining it for me.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
You mean I CAN'T go to work without wearing any pants....
Jeez, I guess I’ll have to stop…
by OLDLIONofNYC on Jan 6, 2012 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Dude.
in long threads, subject lines are your my friend.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Don't make me edit that so he's wearing a PSU shirt again.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
This'll have to do for now.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 6, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's in-line with what we know about the BoT
They still think they get to control the timing and narrative. Now they will move the announcement up to tomorrow as they scramble to cover their asses. (Assuming this is the real deal)
Hah!
… you just posted this to my wall.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
They are idiots.
On it’s merits alone, I’m ok with BOB, but if they didn’t tell Bradley or the players first, fuck them. They suck at literately everything they’ve done since early November.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
Joyner at home, laughing at us...
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Its the name on the front of the jersey that matters most, not the one on the back. -Joe Paterno
There are also reports that O'Brien will continue to coach the Pats this season.
So even if he is our coach, he won’t actually start working for at least another couple weeks and possibly not until after national letter of intent day.
Now THIS would piss me off beyond belief
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 6, 2012 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Well there goes our Recruiting class...
Wow, next year has the making of a Randy Edsall, Maryland 2011 type season….
Ok, maybe the beer talking, BUT
I’m back to thinking BS. Too many things just don’t make sense here
1. Why would Joyner let him finish out the season with the Pat’s a fuck up recruiting?
2. After all the secretism, why would Joyner be ok with O’Brien repeatedly leaking this info?
3. Why announce this on Saturday? Especially when a Deal is done? No reason to announce on a weekend. That the students will be back makes it worse.
4. Seriously, fucking BOB?
agree
But maybe some stuff is true (hiring) and some false (staying with Pats till end of season)
And the obligatory.
I rate this hire: two fail buses, a crushed car, and a truck that feels violated.
"Is that a shot at me? 'cause that makes me want to read it all the less."
Not enough fire.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Yes, but...
the PSU PR machine has not missed any opportunity to miss an opportunity since the Sandusky story broke. Own goal after own goal, faceplant upon faceplant… Why would they do this one right?
We will announce BOB as our head coach.
At halftime of Homecoming next year.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
this makes me wish I gave a shit about anything other then college football
by Nittany Merle on Jan 6, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good time to start enjoying...
Hockey, Baseball or wrestling. Also, a former PSU wrestler Phil Davis will be on Fox in a UFC match soon. You could get into that.
Speaking of inspiring field leaders
Gene Mauch knew when to face-palm in ’64.
by Jitterbug on Jan 6, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mort just said
Charlie Weis was in this same scenario and it worked with him as far as recruiting went while he still coached for the Pats…call me crazy but that is a load of shit
Uh, pointing to Weiss as a sign of success
Not exactly calming me down.
It's basically like saying Pickett's Charge was a good idea at the time.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Pickett's charge was not a good idea at the time.
His lieutenants knew it.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 6, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
That was kind of my point.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
honestly, it's not shit
And I effing hate Weis, but he was a hell of a recruiter. A douche, but a hell of a recruiter. That wasn’t his problem at ND.
Fire Dan Snyder
Not really.
Not to say that stars=success, but his 2005 recruiting class was headlined by two four-star guys and a bunch of 3 stars. Looking at the list, none of the names really jump out at me.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/notredame/football/recruiting/commitments/2005
Which is just another reason to remember how awesome PSU's 2005 class was.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/notredame/football/recruiting/commitments/2005/pennstate-34
Yes.
It ruled the world.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
Kind of funny
how Mort seems to be trying to sell this as the best hire ever
cant help but think this is a 3-5 year plan an then we go an make a big time hire…but as usual in recent memory, this school has let me down; greatly
Munchak should be available in 3-5 years
by Nittany Merle on Jan 6, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
If O'Brien is actually announced as HC
This will be the thing I wish for every day for the next few years.
by SCsprinter13 on Jan 6, 2012 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
it's because
ESPN is basically responsible for this hire, they’re the ones who broke it initially right?
Fire Dan Snyder
They have been doing this since they broke it initially
Because they want PSU to fail. Seriously bring on the conspiracies. I’m 6 beers deep with no plan to stop, so lets do this.
by ppfcpp on Jan 6, 2012 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, if they are pumping up this hire, doesn't that help Penn State more than hurt it?
by VVeRPennState on Jan 6, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
But if the hire ends up sucking, will anyone care what ESPN said?
I just think people are looking for a conspiracy when there simply isn’t one.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 6, 2012 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
no, but if ESPN propped up the hire
then, by extension, they will be the cause of us sucking.
not saying I buy it, mind you, just trying to attempt to explain it.
Fire Dan Snyder
Get ready to puke.
This guy comes with 0% of the cachet that Charlie Weiss did at the time Notre Dame hired him.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Yeah, right... it is such a beotch to try to get recruits to commit to Notre Dame...
Proud proponent of the 52 team Uber Conference
Would PSU mind if we just refer to him as "IC O'Brien" (Interim Coach)
On a serious note… sorry guys… I was hoping for a LOT better… otherwise… there are no words.
Proud proponent of the 52 team Uber Conference
Emotional response
It is natural to feel this way since dr Joyner and Ira took so long to hire BOB, the longer it took the greater the expectation but I feel a lot of these posts would have been the same regardless of the name in the space. I will reserve any judgment until I hear BOB speak at the PC. He sold Belicheck on his shitty resume and he sold both Dr.Joyner and Ira . All three of these guys are the best at what they do….
I think this guy is going to come in and light a fire to this place, the kind of fire that has been lacking for a decade or so and hopefully he won’t go around apologizing for being the head FC at PENN STATE!
We are… Not Michigan nor Auburn or any other university with Fans who do not support their HC
We are….
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill
We already did this earlier, but I'll repeat my response.
Notre Dame.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Notre Dame?
Sorry I missed the conversations but we are far from ND..
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill
This is true.
Until recently we were good at football.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
by jesse. on Jan 6, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Notre dame
I wish to never be associated with that school or it’s alums and fan base. I am ok with winning 8-10 games a year with a run at the NC once every few years but those fanatics are the most unreasonable of them all,
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill
and yet
EVERY YEAR they expect to be top 10. Honestly, don’t you get tired of being so disappointed?
I know I am from the last 2 months.
Fire Dan Snyder
we're on a new level now.....
i’ll take the dark years over the last two months any day of the week.
by Nittany Merle on Jan 6, 2012 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Failure of expectations
Sure I get tired of it, but
Hope springs eternal
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill
Belicheck
Almost all very successful people are difficult to work with since they assume you have the ability to keep up with them mentally… That is a good thing
I think it is wrong to believe BOB will fail j/b some of Billy’s other assistants have failed
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill
FIFY
I think it is wrong to believe BOB will fail j/b some most of Billy’s other assistants have failed
Fire Dan Snyder
Just a bit of optimism here
Nick Saban, Al Groh, Kirk Ferentz, and Jim Schwartz are all former Belichick assistants.
by SCsprinter13 on Jan 6, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
I just hope he's not a dick.
Maybe he wants out of Foxboro. Maybe he’s sick of Belicheck. I hope so.
I really wanna see
some former players interviewed and speak out about this hire and the entire situation to begin with. I wonder what a guy like Lavar, Blackledge or Tamba Hali would say about this all?
tomorrow there is apparently a letterman's meeting
so we should hear something then.
Fire Dan Snyder
Lavar disapoints me
I LOVE Lavar, don’t get me wrong. But living in the DC area, Lavar was so passive with all the PSU discussions on his radio show.
Still, I hope he comes out with some fire on this. I think he’s agood guy to lead the charge(if he speaks his mind).
If this hiring is true
I would hope the letterman would say that they 100% support BOB and 100% oppose everything about the way the search was conducted/communicated
only if
the announcement is made that he is officially the coach before the meeting.
The AD’s timetable right now is the announcement will be made saturday.
Fire Dan Snyder
Good point
Though Lavar has a pulpit after any hire via his radio show (if that still exists)
it does exist
every day from 3-7, I believe. or 2-7. Sometime in the afternoon.
I listen occasionally, I like to hear his take on the Skins.
Fire Dan Snyder
Where'd you read that?
I haven’t seen any official word that there will be a PC on Saturday.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 6, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Blackledge....
looked dumbfounded on ESPN tonight. Said he had questions. Same reaction from Kirk Herbstreit.
by Nittany Merle on Jan 6, 2012 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
He may have helped us get a new player already.
Adrian Coxson (anyone remember him, 4* WR ended up going to Florida a couple years ago I think), is thinking about leaving Maryland for here.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
At this point
Anyone but BOB will make me happy. Even someone I don’t really remember.
Memory serves
Coxson had a soft verbal to us and then he switched it to UF… Kind of like was.ey from S.I.
Would make some sense
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill
Sounds like it.
Guess he transferred to Maryland after a year. Wants out again.
Joe, the reason we shout "WE ARE" and the reason the answer will always be "PENN STATE"
he's from maryland
and didn’t he go to school with one of our players? maybe MWallz?
Fire Dan Snyder
Well, he certainly can't go back to Maryland
talkin that mess.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
and does he really want to?
I mean, players are practically begging to transfer from Edsall.
Fire Dan Snyder
Yeah probably not
But he basically just went all-in with that tweet.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
LET'S HAVE A REAL GOOD TIME IN THE NEW THREAD
Thank you for being around and making threads.
Lord knows I need a place to vent.
Could it be?
Could it be that O’Brien’s agent keeps trying to keep this story alive to enduce a deal from Jacksonville? Another question, who’s going to be in charge of recruiting when O’Brien is still coaching his team through the NFL playoffs? Would they expect Bradley, Johnson, et al to continue on knowing they will not be coaching here next year? That just wouldn’t be right.
As silly as ESPN is
I don’t think they’d push it this hard if their only source was O’Brien’s agent.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 6, 2012 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
maybe some of the defensive staff will be retained? too optimistic??
by Nittany Merle on Jan 6, 2012 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think so
I think they will be gone. I imagine the way this was handled will make them leave. Sad that the BOT actions would make them leave when a major scandal didn’t phase them.
Lj sr and Vandy
Both have publicly stated that they would be open to remaining on staff…
I think BOB could soothe some ruffled feathers by retaining these two
You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. Winston Churchill
And HC in 3 years?
There were longstanding rumors that LJ was always the most likely successor over Bradley. Maybe the board knew they couldn’t hire someone from the current staff. Instead, they hired O’Brien as the stop gap for a couple years as a diversion and LJ will take over after the scandal clears. Maybe I am just spending too much effort trying to justify horrible moves by the board.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 6, 2012 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
I love LJ Sr
but I’m not sure…honestly I felt like the defense regressed this year after LJSr & Vandy became co-DCs.
Fire Dan Snyder
The whole team regressed.
I don’t know who you can blame for that, most likely no one.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 6, 2012 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
hey, this guy needs acceptance....
and who better to help him in that category. It would be a win-win
by Nittany Merle on Jan 6, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
I think a lot of people need to be reminded
that this whole mess could have been avoided if Paterno had just stepped aside “with dignity” during his 70’s, after which we could’ve had our choice of coaches. Even if he didn’t get fired, he still would’ve been out with lung cancer and we’d still be searching for a new coach anyway. I blame Paterno for this.
Good luck to Coach O’Brien.
Stepped aside so Sandusky could have taken his place?
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 6, 2012 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah MattPSU02
That would have worked out swimmingly
by Nittany Merle on Jan 6, 2012 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
how about
between 2000-2006 or so. Sandusky gone, JoePA aging and older than virtually any other coach in any other sport. Sandusky left after the ’99 collapse, that was a long freaking time ago, I was a junior.
yeah but if that happened during the dark years
there’s no way we would’ve had “our choice of coaches”. Only after the program was resurrected in 2005, and proven consistent in 2006-8, were we again in the collective football conscience as a higher tier program.
Fire Dan Snyder
This team was a lack of ridiculous scandal and a Matt McGloin concussion away from having 10 wins.
Let alone possibly playing for the Big 10 Championship, and a BCS bowl.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
true
But it had obvious deficiencies and besides, I question how much “coaching” Coach Paterno was really doing in the last 3 years or so.
You can't blame him for the failures.
And not acknowledge his success. We have something like the 10th highest winning percentage in BCS conferences in the last 6 years, and are the only team in the Big 10 not to having a losing conference record in that time.
That’s pretty damn good.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 6, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm so sick of hearing "how much coaching Coach Paterno was really doing"
Ask his players. Ask his staff.
They seem to say an awful lot more than you, who unless I’m mistaken and you have some inside sources, have no idea what the Hell you are talking about and that you’re assuming that because he became older, became less valuable.
Paterno is an incredible wealth of football knowledge. I would go on to guess he has forgotten more about football than you will ever know about anything in your entire life. Saying that he still knows more about football than anything you will ever know in your entire life.
Paterno doesnt have anything to prove to anyone about how much he “coached” those teams.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
If Paterno just became a lawyer like his father wanted, none of this would have happened.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 6, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So instead of getting a poor man's Charlie Weis
The administration, who has proved they have the judgement of a 16-year-old borrowing Uncle Gavin’s Ferrari, would have actually hired Charlie Weis.
Holy shit
you might be the second or third worst person in the world.
seriously
I’ve been calling for him to retire for years now, and so have thousands of other PSU fans.
Not all of us alums enjoyed the glory years like 1986 and have a cult-like dedication to the man. Are some PSU fans so blinded that they would’ve let Paterno still be coaching, even after breaking a leg, fighting cancer, and now breaking a pelvis? The man was selfish by continuing on into his 80’s. I seriously question how much coaching he was truly doing, and instead relying on the staff to shoulder much of the responsibilities.
I very much respect how this man built our program but he hung on too long and it was for selfish reasons. Obviously I hope he gets well soon but we should have never extended his contract the last time. He could have named a successor, at the very least.
One day, most likely, you will grow up.
And when you do, you will realize your errors. Or maybe you will be one of those that don’t. Either way, this really is the wrong time and place to write that shit.
maybe not the best time
But I am NOT going to sit here and watch the Paterno cult sabotage the success of our new coach, because of some bizarre obsession with “tradition” or a vendetta against the BOT or acting AD. Realize that your acting out is hurting the future of the program by making a very very tough job even tougher.
Talk to non-PSU fans about what they think about Paterno sticking around till his 80’s. Take a step back and try to have an objective point of view.
I can absolutely say
that not all of the people who are pissed off on this board were fans of Paterno. Many were clamoring for him to retire for a while now, and saying that everyone who is upset with this hire is a member of “the Paterno cult” is just patently false.
Fire Dan Snyder
The past 50+ days have been agonizing for me
part of me is relieved this is finally over…. regardless of the outcome. But I have to say BOB was my absolute bottom choice.
by Nittany Merle on Jan 6, 2012 1:04 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm kind of sad, I was hoping this would make 1000 comments.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
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