Bill O'Brien Press Conference Live Blog
by Mike Pettigano on Jan 7, 2012 10:28 AM EST
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PrintThis is it, folks. Penn State has a new head coach. A Brown University grad. An offensive coordinator. No previous ties to Penn State before arriving in Happy Valley.
Everybody... meet Bill O'Brien.
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I know many of you are pissed off...
but I’m personally trying to look forward, not back. So let’s welcome BOB to the Penn State family.
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb
by Mike Pettigano on Jan 7, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Totally agree with this statement.
Kerry Collins nailed it!
by DeuceisLoose926 on Jan 7, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
100% Agree
He gets my support. I also won’t forget how poor our offense has been in the last decade when not led by senior QB’s named Clark or Robinson and how we seem to put together 1 solid O-Line every 4 years. Let’s give him a chance.
The offense was better when Clark was a junior...
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Agree, but making the point that it doesn't need to be a senior QB.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Penn St. picked a good one the last time. Who knows, BOB may be around for a long time.
It’s about Penn St. and rallying behind that first of all, might as well get behind BOB now.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
Good point, mjtig
Is anyone on here old enough to remember the reaction to the Paterno hiring in 1966? Obviously it was a different world in a lot of ways, but was he easily accepted since he had been here for 16 years already? Was there a group wanting to go outside of the current staff? DerryPharmer, are you old enough to recall the Paterno hiring?
Local Susquehannock tribesmen and French fur-trappers
in a rare display of agreement, unanimously supported the hire.
so, by the reaction I'm not sure if you are not warming up right away lol. LSU guy here....
and I got behind Curly Hallman, Gerry Dinardo, Mike Archer, as I did Saban and Miles when they were hired respectively (seen the bad as I have the good). It was about getting behind LSU first and foremost. Get behind your team is the point. He is your coach.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
*I'm not sure if you are warming up right away lol...
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
I agree as well
This sight has been unreadable the past 2 days. You can choose to live in the past or look forward to the future. I choose the latter. Best wishes Coach O’Brien!
Out with a whimper
Way to put up a fight, kids.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
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I'm somewhere in between, Buch.
BOB is selected, for better or worse, so I will try to swallow hard and support him/the new staff. BUT, I still despise Joyner/search committee/BoT for the arrogant and heavy-handed way of dealing with this whole situation. Because of that, I reserve the right to make BOB the lightning rod for any future criticism for failure or praise for success.
Waiting-and-seeing has helped me so far; I’m holding to that in this circumstance.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Grow up
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb
by Mike Pettigano on Jan 7, 2012 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 5 recs
C'mon, MP, cut Buch some slack.
We all have to get through the mourning process the best way we can.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Real nice, Mik'e.
Real nice. Am I now among those whose opinion is no longer welcome here? I’d hoped to have earned a little leeway to deviate from the party line, especially because I feel I’ve gone out of my way to reasonably articulate my view and justify my reasoning for it.
Don’t worry, I’m not going to hang around this thread like a turd in the punch bowl, raining on everyone’s parade of good feelings. Of course I want to see O’Brien succeed, because it means the team and program are succeeding. But for me, welcoming him today with open arms is tantamount to welcoming our new, alien overlords.
HAIL ANTS.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
I, for one, welcome our new butt chin overlords
as long as I don’t have to look at him
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I see my comment was justified
I said nothing to provoke your comments, but you found it necessary to not only insult my own opinion (the outrageous idea of welcoming BOB) but then play the victim, falsely accusing me of doing exactly what you just did, when I call you out on it?
Grow. Up.
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb
by Mike Pettigano on Jan 7, 2012 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe it was
I can see where it seemed like I was insulting you personally – I didn’t mean it like that – it was out of frustration and anger generally, not directed at you. I wasn’t “playing the victim” as much as asking for, as ‘84 put it, “some slack?” Get me? The whole Simpsons reference at the end was an attempt to bury the hatchet, not ratchet up the tone of the rhetoric. Please accept that my emotion here is driven only by my love of PSU, and I’m not trying to call you out or marginalize you. Sorry if it came across that way – I realize why I did.
The presser’s about to start. We cool?
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
I'm always cool
I’m pissed off at the admins also, but BOB is NOT the guy to take it out on.
BOT elections are coming up. That’s when we strike back.
A Garden State Nittany Lion...
"The way things are these days, 9-3 and one of the best graduation rates in the country doesn't seem like such a terrible bargain to make." - Michael Weinreb
by Mike Pettigano on Jan 7, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Wow...
What a dick. I agree with 84 wholeheartedly. At 42 I’ve earned the right to look at things with a critical eye and call bullshit when its patently obvious. This, my friends, is bullshit.
At the end of the day I will support BoB because Penn State is my alma mater…but if he fails I will expect his tenure to be short.
Penn State Proud
Or the next guy, or the guy after
Or anybody not named Joe Paterno, for that matter.
Because HE is the only one allowed to have more than one losing season at Penn State. Ever.
by misdreavus79 on Jan 8, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Or, for those of you who, like myself, have sworn off ESP(anything):
B10 Network also carrying the presser.
by ljdevine on Jan 7, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Can't wait to see how O'Brien handles this
Glad to see he’s keeping Vandy on the staff, that’s a definite plus
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 AM EST reply actions
Or at least, since we're targeting Nova' former DL coach, now with UMASS, my guess would be the LJ Sr. is out
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Thinking about it more, it seems like this makes more sense
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I would love LJ Sr. To stay as DC!
He’s one of our best recruiters and deserves it.
am i missing something
Where did you see that Vandy was retained?
Pure guess, based on us targeting a DL coach
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
O'Brien's BOSS first move:
Thanks everyone for welcoming him to Penn State, looks right in the camera, says “Sorry, Bill. I quit. Got more important things to do”, picks up a hidden cell phone, and calls Armani Reeves live.
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Would be better
if he pile drives Joyner through a folding table, but yeah. awesome.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Then picks up a folding chair and bashes him over the head
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
Hoping for the best
The whole process was about as organized as a goat rodeo, but it’s time to support the team. It’d be foolish to hope O’Brien fails. Let’s go state!
Herding cats man
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
This should be...
fun.PSU is run like a cat rodeo, but let’s go BOB! Just don’t RichRod it and ignore the traditions and legacy Paterno built.
Sigh.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 7, 2012 10:50 AM EST reply actions
ESPN says HEAVY police presence at NL Inn
Are they expecting an assassination attempt or something???
Still searching for posters from 1986
well without drama
they would just be a sports show
Believe deep down in your heart that you are destined to do great things
by farrellpsu on Jan 7, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Probably a big fat cop is there, and they're sensationalizing.
I'm the XBOX to your Atari.
by WorldBFat on Jan 7, 2012 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
"Look, the hot donut light is on!"
/Makesmovewhilefatcopisdistracted
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
I laughed so hard!
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
They are......
probably expecting JS to turn up wearing a new PS Brand outfit….“New at 11:30, Sandusky and wife wear identical Womens Lacrosse unis to the BOB conference.”
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
What if JoePa
comes in a hits him with a chair?
Believe deep down in your heart that you are destined to do great things
Let's be correct...a wheel chair.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Hoveround?
It does go indoors, outdoors, all over town!
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
Hit's Joyner? Or Pres Lackey?
I’m all for it.
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
BOTH!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
BOB is tainted with the JS scandal already.
Look at who gets credit for the picture you posted, Mike: Elise AMENDOLA.
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
nope
"My kitchen is a mess y'all" Paula Deen
by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 7, 2012 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
thanks!
"My kitchen is a mess y'all" Paula Deen
by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 7, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Also, who am I talking about
- A hire that has no HC experience
- “Fiery, energetic” are phrases used to describe him
- Fanbase negatively reacts at first
- Former stop was OC
- Coached at Maryland
- Coached in the pros
- Maligned as a college OC for lack of scoring
10,000 BSD Bucks if anyone can guess who this is. It’s not Billy Bob
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:07 AM EST reply actions
Yep
And we all see how that’s turning out. Wonderfully
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Shame we didn't hire him
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
It is, but he would've had so much negativity against him
Also, guy <3’s Vandy.
But really, after preaching about going it the “Vandy way” and changing the culture, then leaving
if we hired him, media would be PO’d, and easy to recruit against him
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Really wondering if we’ll ever find out who was contacted when, and if he was ever one of the targets. But like Ice said…
I'd pay a fortune to learn the real
story of who we talked to, who we offered, what the decision criteria was.
Would be fascinating to read.
365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
As I said below
There is an ESPN commenter talking like he knows. Personally, I think he’s full of shit (how could you possible confirm or discredit anything said?), but there is a small list this guy is saying we were in talks with.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Isn’t he a “lawyer” claiming to be privy to contract details? Wouldn’t revealing those get one, erm, disbarred or something?
I vote BS
He claims to have written 4 contracts for potential hires
I laughed out loud when he said that.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
Ben?
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, James Franklin, Vandy's new HC
He’s bringing in a top 25 recruiting class and went 6-7 this year when he was supposed to win maybe 2 games. Vandy almost beat Florida, Arkansas, Georgia, Cincinnati, & Tennessee
unless that comment was just purely joking, I can’t tell :/
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Vandy did beat Arkansas...
and then decided to forfeit at the very end of the game.
But your point is made. That hire seems to be working out exceptionally well considering what any coach at Vandy would face given the climate before he got there.
I know one stipulation of him going there was a negotiation for heavy investment from the school (I went to grad school there). Honestly, now that everyone gets a degree, I think a lot of smart athletes are starting to consider how much their degree has to stand above others. I think that’s starting to also really start to work in Vandy’s favor. You get to play in the SEC and you get a good (and very expensive) degree to fall back on.
so, for the TV; agree not watching on ESpin; Is BTN gonna take a break from the MSU/GA rerun?
i’ve got goPSU up in another tab, but see no place to click for the press conference video.
BTN is covering the presser.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
yes, i read that; i guess i'll just be patient, does BTN have "alternative" channels that I should be trying to find? or are we
expecting BTN to just cut away from this MSU/GA game replay?
by WarBuck46410 on Jan 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
cuz .... heavy sarcasm coming .... won't Michigan State fans be outraged if their replay is interrupted for a Penn State Press conference?
how are the PC police at the BTN gonna square that circle? this could be “bulletin board” material for the next Battle for the Land Grant Trophy.
/end rant about BTN excessive inclusiveness. LOL
by WarBuck46410 on Jan 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, BTN will air it
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I'd imagine so, I thought the BTN aired the same thing everywhere
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure
I do know that if a few games are on the BTN at the same time (early in the season), Ohio people will obviously get OSU or something like that instead of a PSU game or Nebraska game.
As soon as my daughter is done watching Handy Manny, I’ll turn it over and see…lol
Let me tell ya 'bout this guy, Bill O'Brien
I like this guy.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
NATIONAL FOOTB...
wait, sorry. Got excited.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
If you believe an anonymous commenter on ESPN (yes, you read that correctly)
We had a deal pretty much in place, but JG backed out when Joyner submarined it by being stubborn (which he apparently did more than once with different targets).
Again, anonymous commenter on ESPN. So take it FWIW.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty much.
Got into an argument on 247 with someone over the credibility of an ESPN commenter.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, only explanation is that is was the same guy.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Has anyone
checked with Sekrah about this for confirmation?
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
He mentioned something about "sources" close to Miles saying that Miles was interested
He said he figured PSU would inquire and then hire Miles
Saban heard we also had a signature ready contract
in front of Les Miles, and Joyner was conducting a race to see who would sign first.
Didn’t you read about this on twitter?
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Makes perfect sense.
Bob Stoops as personal chef?
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Bill O'Brien
is not a wartime consigliere
by Salt on Jan 7, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kudos to you sir
Or possibly Joyner is the Turk and O’Brien his Irish police Sgt.
May the JVP way......success with honor forever be the Penn State way.
If Gruden wanted an out clause to pro teams, I'm glad we didn't hire him
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Doesn’t Bob want a head coaching job in the NFL as well? Seems we just didn’t put it on paper. And every contrat you can exit as history has proven in pro sports.
Eh, maybe, a lot can happen in 3 years. Gruden's a pro for life
Bill, well, we’ll see.
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
LJSr
At the press conference. Gotta think that’s a good sign!
by GMac14 on Jan 7, 2012 11:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Either a good sign
or he has more class in his fingernail than most humans have in their entire body.
Because if I was getting fired, I’d be at the press conference…. with a flame thrower.
365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In the short run....
you’re going to have to let this guy have his shot. This is the 100th time I’ll say it so, “TB is not going to be the HC, the days of coaches ataying at one place for 10 years, let alone 61 years are long gone and the PSU FBHC job is now officially a stepping-stone job….this guy will either be fired or quit to go to the pros (”His dream job") before his gig is up". It’s the way of the sports world now and PSU, regardless of what some may think, is in it up to their eyeballs. Good luck to all involved.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 11:29 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sadly, Derry
I think you may be right. We can still count our blessing for those 61 years though, and collectively find ways to preserve what was best about them, even as we join the rest of the college football world on the coaching carousel.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
by PSU_Buch on Jan 7, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mmmmmmm..... I wouldn't say we'll be a stepping stone job
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
I think this will be a stepping stone job only
If we don’t let a coach have the automony etc. that they need as a HC and pay him the going rate. If others want our HC, that’s a good thing. If we don’t pay him or give him the (appropriate) stature in the university, the coach will jump.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
It's on!
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
And here we go...
Updates if you’re not following the CiL event above, or on Twitter.
LJSr. is in the house (a good sign), and Josh McDaniels is reportedly joining the pats for the playoffs, possibly signifying BOB has left the Pats (also a good sign, two days left for in-person recruiting until a week-long dead period).
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First step: Call Stefon Diggs
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Don't see that one happening. But give it a shot.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I agree, but certainly at least try it
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
He said he was interested in hearing from BOB.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Yea, but hearing from and having actual interest is different.
Seems he’s SEC-bound.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
And tweeting that Patriots are hiring McDaniels for playoff run
That could mean O’Brien is coming right in
When is Erickson going to apologize?
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
When hell freezes over
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
No one's job description has changed more today
than Jeff Nelson’s. What is he going to do now that won’t be repeating questions back to the coach during pressers and apologizing to reporters for getting chewed out by the coach (well, maybe that will still happen)?
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Alright, so far, nothing bad from Erickson
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 AM EST reply actions
It might not be right
but there’s pretty much nothing Erickson or Joyner can say right now to make me not despise them to their cores.
by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
OH JOY, HERE COMES JOYNER
And here come the pretzels…
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
I'd like to hear from Russ Rose.
Get him up there!
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
I just hope
Joyner doen’t have to throw his dick on the table to show how big it is
Still searching for posters from 1986
by brubby on Jan 7, 2012 11:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's because he is one
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
Big moment. He's doing well.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Cannot. Stop. Staring. At. The. Chin.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
One thing I'll say
This guy seems intense.
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Alright, that's a good move
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 AM EST reply actions
Excellent recruiting joke.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Talking family to start out
I do like that.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Dude's either really nervous or anawful speaker
Looking at his notes a lot.
Saying the right things so far though I guess.
Probably a bit of both
But I think he’s gotten more comfortable as he has gone on.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
wouldn't you be nervous?
I’d be terrified! there’s 500k+ judging him right now
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
I can honestly say I'd be terified
I’d like to think that the best guy for this job would be a little more confident, but I do understand that this is a little bit of a special circumstance.
Regardless, I’m going to give him a lot of slack because he’s talking about being tough and smart.
I'd be nervous too, and I'm supposed to be great at talking
But he could stop acting he like’s a pendulum, what with the swaying back and forth
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Praising Erickson? Eh, I'll believe Bill
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:40 AM EST reply actions
HATE HATE HATE HATE
Joyner and Ericksson.
BOB sounds ok so far. Wish him well.
That's devastatingly sad.
Had some experience with it. Rough.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Are there any coaches out there
without a kid with a rare disease? Man.
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For what it's worth
If he sends his son to State High, State High is supposed to have a very good, I guess, “Special Education” program. I can’t say I ever interacted with it, but it seems like it was a very high caliber program
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
he's 9 years old...
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
Well I know, once he gets there
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Ooooohhhhh....
Wow, my bad, I had no grasp of the level of disease
sorry, I assumed it was a developmental disorder. My apologies
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry BOB
You’re losing me on the Joyner bullshit.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
He reminds me of Michael Keaton, dont ask me why... I am Batman!
"That's why you don't play! 'Cuz you're no good!" -Joe Paterno
He looks like Ed DeChellis with that (lack of) hair. Just missing the little tuft in the front.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
Does anyone know
if Colleen O’Brien makes a mean lasagna? She has tough shoes to fill, too, you know.
by tomatpsu on Jan 7, 2012 11:42 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Probably be Shepherd's Pie or Irish Stew
Just stay away from Haggis
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Oh no!
A PSU football coach thanks… Bill Belichick!
/pours bleach in ears
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
I can't stop running the possibilities through my mind
which obtain when one calls his wife “Chief of STAFF.”
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
nice
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
"Smart, tough, physical football team. A good situational team."
Gotta like that.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
What's complimentary football?
OH YES A CREATIVE DEFENSE
FUCK YEAH I LOVE THIS GUY
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:43 AM EST reply actions
Hm
Had no idea how hard hearing, officially, the phrase “Penn State’s Head Football coach” without Joe Paterno behind it would be.
Oh shit
Getting onto Paterno now…tread lightly.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
This is going to be awesome....Paterno reference.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
so it sounds like BOB is going to start work as a PSU coach immediately
I like this for two reasons:
1. HELPS WITH RECRUITING
2. probably screws over the Patriots in the playoffs :D
Defense wins championships
Hell yeah, praising Joe on national TV
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
That's what I want to see.
Welcome to the family O’Brien.
It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.
by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 7, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
how funny is that. unbelievable. the exact opposite as the search committee wanted.
by VinnyV11 on Jan 7, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
REC!
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I really like this guy, I really, really like this guy
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions
I am really starting to like this guy, BUT
He is god awful at public speaking
Defense wins championships
by psu_all_day on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's okay with me.
I’d rather he not be a polished creeper.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
To throw it on him I hope?
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
Nope. But Erickson did look concerned. It was funny
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
Erickson = wicked witch of the east.
Throw water on E, who screams, “I’m melting!”
Crowd cheers wildly!!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Praising Paterno just sealed it for me
While I still hate Joyner, Erickson, et al with every bone in my body, I’m all in on supporting Bill O’Brien
I am a Penn State Nittany Lion, and I played for the legendary Joe Paterno, and more importantly, I am a man because of it. - Lavar Arrington
by LegalLion on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
He now has my support. He had the balls to praise Paterno, unlike the cowards next to him.
by Btd121 on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he knew that to get the fans and players behind him
he had to praise Joe, regardless what the admins wanted
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Still took guts.
ESPN had it in quotes as a headline 30 seconds after he said it.
^THIS
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 7, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
dude totally store erickson’s water
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
by belbijou on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
stole.....
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
Things turned out better than I expected?
He is saying everything right. I assume that means he’s a good guy, because god knows if he let PSU’s PR help they would have f’ed it up.
Wow, I really appreciate how he just reached out to the alumni and letterman like that.
Great job.
Still didn’t address the STUDENT ATHLETE enough for me.
by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 7, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Harumph.
Fuck the Patriots.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
I agree with what Bill's saying about the Patriots, and I agree wholeheartedly
I’ve always liked a guy who sticks with his team
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions
Disappointed he won't start full time.
But I’m pleased with the day.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
You beat me to that comment!
Sounds good to me!
by mundyscorner99 on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
YES LARRY IS STAYING
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions
YAY LJSR!
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
yESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
There's no loyalty in the NFL
It’s a straight up business.
NICE!
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
FUCK YES WE KEEP LARRY JOHNSON
I just jizzed
Defense wins championships
by psu_all_day on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
No one is going to hug you as grown men do now
I'm on the Internet cause I'm an Internet thug.
#OccupyESPN
Follow @134Lounge
by skarocksoi on Jan 7, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Werd
High fives are out as well.
Fist bumps are always questionable.
/sends a point and a nod from across the room.
jtothetweet
Yet, bag or not, it’s nigh on impossible to mistake a cat for a pig.
by jtothep on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
His voice was dripping with disdain
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Using the word family a lot
He is very, very quickly winning me over.
Is LJ staying as DC
or DL coach?
365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:49 AM EST reply actions
Sorry. not watching.
365 beers from 365 different breweries in 365 days. Game on.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think they actually said...
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
Hasn't been clarified.
He just said that LJ will be part of the staff.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
He didn't say
just that he’s staying
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
I can't imagine he'd stay without getting promoted,
especially if the rumors about him having offers elsewhere.
"The only difference between a brown-noser and a shit head is depth perception"
-PSU_Lions_84
Well Larry is staying
So at least we’re not entirely screwed.
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Still doesnt make any sense. If TB cant be the head coach cause they need to cut ties with the scandal then why keep LJ?
Again, i’m glad LJ is back, but the logic is not there.
Exactly. Same with Joyner and Erickson.
It’s all complete bullshit.
It is just a PR move, so the only important person is the head coach
by VVeRPennState on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
TB been there 33 years.
LJ something like 12. Doesn’t make much sense, but could be a factor.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Don't think LJ worked with Sandusky.
That’s probably a key point.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
I REALLY hope BOB doesn't decide to keep JayPa on staff
as some kind of tribute to JoePa
Defense wins championships
He can be the head water boy
"It's not just linebackers. This is Penn State linebackers, man. We're a certain type. We've gotta be aggressive, relentless, focused. Don't talk. Don't talk at all. We don't showboat or anything. We just play hard and get the job done." -Khairi Fortt
Don't get it.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
PLEASE nab Spence, LJ.
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
by psume06 on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Oh god Cory Giger....
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 AM EST reply actions
what a prick...what a dumb ass question, thats the best you can come up with??
"That's why you don't play! 'Cuz you're no good!" -Joe Paterno
by pmm156 on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Said it before and I'll say it again.
FUCK YOU CORY GIGER.
by PSUEnrg02 on Jan 7, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
What question did he ask?
No video access here…
Tom Brady fight
Some guy at Penn State Hershey just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? Now Someone at PSU found something that could cure Leukemia. Coverage? None. THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines" you sanctimonious pricks!
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Still not happy that he is finishing it out with the Patriots.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
by 06Lion on Jan 7, 2012 11:51 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If some of the current staff is staying on, I think it's ok
I’d prefer he recruit immediately, but I won’’t knock a guy for loyalty.
by ppfcpp on Jan 7, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One of the recruits' major complaints, is that they weren't being told anything definitive.
LJ is gonna hit the fucking trail like a boss.
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Leave it to the Post Gazette to throw the first Sandusky references out there.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
I'm liking BOB's answer, tho.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Ok so id McDaniels is coming back
why is BOB staying?
I imagine they won't say anything until it's a done deal, if it will become one.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I think youre making too broad of a generalization
Someone already said it, the NFL is a business, and as much as college football may look like one too at times, this is a family. The Pats season doesnt depend on what he does in the next 3 weeks; PSU’s does
Romeo full time.
WorldB, you gotta love it!
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
He has brought up education now a couple times
I think he might get it. Maybe Joyner really did get this right?
IMO he's given it lip service.
I don’t know that he really gets it.
He's a brown alumn
And worked at GT and Duke. I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he gets it, espeically after hearing his comments
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
by psuphysicist on Jan 7, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I AM STILL SO PISSED
that the team found out through ESPN. Really? Like you fucks dont have the decency to update your players?
where do you go on gopsusports to find the pc??
by DeuceisLoose926 on Jan 7, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions
He has come off about as a good as can be
wanted him to start right away, but what can we do. Glad he is keeping LJ, and want Vanderlinden also. A little more excited. Still hate the media and Joyner and Ericksson.
mentioned getting a degree again.
Seems to be important to him.
he said enough for me too
Let’s not go overboard and act like these guys have been graduating with physics degrees
by jdgordo1 on Jan 7, 2012 11:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And that he has a DNR order in place
(Do Not Resuscitate)
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Silas just tweeted
“coach j is staying too!!”
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
YESSSS I LOVE JAY PATERNO
In all seriousness, I’m happy Jay is staying
just hopefully not as a QB coach
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I understand that as Coach Johnson.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
Not in particular,
Jay gets 100% credit for the spread HD, and the offensive success in 05’, 08’, & 09’
I wouldn’t mind him staying on as an assistant. No official title, just a guy to be there
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
He may be good with schemes
but if you can’t develop a QB that can execute them, then it doesn’t work. There are teams out there that could have coached up a guy with Rob Bolden’s physical talents. I need to see someone who can at least go through a simple progression without panicking.
Oh yeah, which is why I'd dislike it if he stayed on as a QB coach
BUT, as a guy who can evaluate game film and help with game planning, I can get behind it
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Like I wrote last night
I think the opposite was true. I think he was good at getting what he could out of the guys he had to work with. I think he was a weak recruiter and a bad playcaller.
He's a weak recruiter.
I think his dad had a larger hand in playcalling than we think.
I’d like to see what he can do on his own, whether it’s here or somewhere else.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
He was never the only playcaller.
The double OC thing was a shitshow. As far as recruiting, that’s tougher to evaluate. But it just seemed to me that we’ve had a string of QBs who would constantly make the same mistakes and never get any better. MRob was an exception because they ran a lot of read and option plays that year, but then they went away from that kind of offense (even though they’ve recruited a number of QBs with dual-threat abilities). Really Clark is the only guy who’s grown as a player in the current iteration of our offense.
IMO they did get better, they were just never great.
The mistakes people complained about are mistakes I see by every player at every level – even from Peyton Manning.
I disagree with that.
I see two and three-star QBs all across the nation who can consistently hit an open guy across the middle. Who know when the pocket is holding up and when it is collapsing. It’s because their coaches put in a practice regimen that teaches them concepts in a simple manner, and reps the throws so that they can make them.
Jay and Galen playcalling
came down to rock/paper/scissors EVERY PLAY!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I have heard several DL guys refer to LJ as Coach J
I would assume that’s what was meant. Sadly, I don’t think the players know much more than we do right now.
I would love to see JayPa stay
I know that isn’t popular here, but I would like to see him here and be held to someone elses standard.
Always.
I saw moxie soda in New Hampshire, but didn’t buy it. Next time i will.
I would love to see him around the program
But not as the QB coach. He’s a stand up guy and I think he’s a good person to have around our young men.
by ppfcpp on Jan 7, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, Joyner was caught off guard there
I do agree with Joyner saying you can’t release anything
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 11:56 AM EST reply actions
That was an awful question
IMO, anyway.
by tomatpsu on Jan 7, 2012 11:57 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Joyner should've smacked that guy from Harrisburg.
What an ill conceived question.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Bust a Full Nelson on him.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
Uhh, better to start at a lower level as an HC
not learn OTJ at PSU.
I strongly disagree
No gimmes on the schedule. We don’t play Minnesota. And, there are no FCS schools on the schedule.
Fire Dan Snyder
I want to see them play Navy
Win or lose it wil be a good experience.
That UVA team will be tough.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
so will Navy.
and Temple will be no slouch. The only game I’m pretty fully confident in is Indiana—but after this year, there’s no gimmes on that one.
Fire Dan Snyder
If Temple scores more than a FG on it it's a disappointment
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
So you were disappointed in the last two years?
Temple is a much better football team. I expect a win, but I can’t guarantee it.
And I think I just remembered, are we not playing Temple next year?
Fire Dan Snyder
We are. At home
Week 4, I think.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
We playing Temple
but Temple losses 4/5 OLineman, and Bernard Pierce is gone.
Their offense should regress
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
^Bernard Pierce is gone from temple
Therefore their offense will regress a great deal
by ReddWhitenBlue on Jan 7, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Tough as in they fight hard, sure.
But after watching them barely beat Idaho in OT live last season, I’m not too worried.
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Wisky tough
OSU tough
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/livenow?id=8493680
if you cant watch on tv
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by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wrong answer.
You don’t “start” at Penn State. You begin your career here, but starting makes it sound like you plan on moving on. I don’t expect him to stay for life, but don’t consider this your “start”.
It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.
by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 AM EST reply actions
I haven't seen enough from him to counter his agent's quote about the NFL
being his dream job. I think he bolts after 5 if he has some success.
I could handle 5 yeas, but nothing shorter.
It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.
by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 7, 2012 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
We're dreaming if we think we are going to get JVP II.
Get used to it, folks — coaches will come and go at Penn State, just like everywhere else.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don't expect JVP2
But I do want someone who finds value in our program other than it being a stepping stone.
It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.
by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 7, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
But we have what we have, for as long as we have it. Hopefully, if successful, for a long time. If unsuccessful, bye-bye!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
There's a great chance we're going to be Notre Dame.
Let that sink in.
Disagree wholeheartedly.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
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by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
Not as long as we have a conference.
That fact right there will make a difference. Also, I don’t think our fanbase is quite so populated with the unique type of jackassery that we see with ND.
Has nothing to do with it.
There’s a great chance we won’t see a coach last here more than five years again for a long time. Either because they bolted for the NFL or a program willing to pay them more, or because they sucked. As ND shows, there’s a low chance each of those will be a good hire. Continuity and family become harder and harder as more and more guys cycle through. ND isn’t special any more. They’ve lost their mystique. That’s the problem with coaching carousels.
Look at the NFL. The Steelers have had three coaches in like forty years. Other teams cycle through them constantly. No team has been more successful than the Steelers.
Notre Dame has way more built in disadvantages than we do.
Primarily the size and scope of the institution.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Also, they are in S. Bend, IN.
But they have always had a national following and draw for recruits and students. So, I look for them to return to prominence.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
I guess I'm not clear on what you mean then.
When you say “Notre Dame”, I’m thinking “fall off the map because of a string of bad coaching hires, and simultaneously doomed to failure because of expectations that are impossible to live up to.” I think Notre Dame dug its own grave long before they went through Willingham and Weis. It’s their whole environment that brought that on them. We have a lot less of that to deal with. There are some similarities—I can see where you’re coming from, but I don’t think the two situations can be equated.
yeah idk if he plans on moving on or not, but it sure sounds like he does
and if he wants to stay here awhile, maybe he should choose his words better
Defense wins championships
You didn't win games at Duke. You won game.
What a dumpster fire that Duke team was.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Nice.
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
seriously?
Fridge was ACC coach of the year multiple times. Including the year he was fired, when his team had 9 wins.
Fire Dan Snyder
Agreed.
Fridge was in a tough environment at Maryland.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
He took Maryland...
to a BCS game. Maryland!
Sigh.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 7, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
re: JayPa
I think it is high time for Jay to go work at another program if he wants to spend his career in coaching. If Jay can find success elsewhere, it will change opinions about him in Nittany Nation. I’m not sure anything else would do it.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
by PSU_Buch on Jan 7, 2012 12:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Losing me again
with the ass kissing of the university leadership.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
he really kind of has to
the LAST thing you want as a new HC is to have the university leadership against you
Defense wins championships
What do you expect?
He isn’t exactly going to insult the guys who just hired him.
by VVeRPennState on Jan 7, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he might be honest
he could have had a good experience. why else would he be willing to work with them?
Tho’ much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven; that which we are, We Are - Tennyson
Eh that response worries me a bit
I really would like to hear how he got here.
YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THE TEST YET?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
What was he doing on the flight?
TAKE THE TEST
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by Tailgate Shogun on Jan 7, 2012 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
At least he seems to know a bit about NCAA rules
Nice little shot there at Noah Spence….anybody who decommitted….who wants to come back.
missed it - what did he say?
"Every player we have, someone-maybe a parent, a grandparent, someone-poured their soul into that young man. They are handing that young man off to us. They are giving us their treasure, and it's our job to make sure we give them back that young man intact and ready to face the world."
-J.V.Pa.
"I can't mention recruits by name."
Etc.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I thought he was referring to Schutt or Jarron Jones maybe
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Noah didn't decommit, contrary to what ESPN said in the Under Armour Bowl.
He was never committed. He’s talking about Joey O’Connor, JP Holtz, etc.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
He mentioned OHIO
PLEASE RECRUIT OHIO
OH AND NOW HE’S SAYING NATIONAL RECRUITING
YESSSS
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 12:03 PM EST reply actions
Where are the BSD'ers asking Q's?
They are at the presser, right?
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Ben's there, but didn't get any questions in.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Our man Ben.
Can’t wait until we get a full report.
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn't part of the conference call?
I know this presser is important but come on…
by ppfcpp on Jan 7, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This guy has done next to nothing.
I mean, sure, he just got “officially” hired last night, but with him heading off back to the Pats, when is he going to get this stuff done?
Also, TAKE THE TEST.
by smashtheguitar on Jan 7, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I like his answer for that
how can I ask a player to be committed to Penn State if I don’t stay committed to my current team
Because that team doesn't need him for shit. They operated without an OC for a year
before they ‘gave him the position.’ This team has been at a huge disadvantage for the last two months. There’s a TON of work to be done, really quickly. And he’s going to try and ‘work us in.’ It’s BS. Penn State deserves better.
I would expect the same from any other coach that is still coaching
Any NFL coach is going to stay on til there team is done. You never see a coach leave in the middle of the playoffs.
That has nothing to do with his point.
He’s leading by example, following through on his commitment. It sucks for us, but you can’t blame him all that much.
Maybe he’s just waiting until the Pats hire McDaniels to jump ship and saying “the right things” until then.
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-PSU_Lions_84
by dbl5030 on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Final thoughs?
I like him a lot better than I thought I would. Still worried that he might bolt to the NFL at his first opportunity, but he seems honest at least. Keeping LJ is huge too, I think I can get behind this guy.
by ppfcpp on Jan 7, 2012 12:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
His offers from the NFL
depend in large part on his success at State. He MUST succeed for us, imho, to get a sniff from the NFL.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
I really like that he is going to evaluate the players to determine the system and not force a system when we don’t have the personnel.
It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task.
by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 7, 2012 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just hope he hires assistants that can TEACH and DEVELOP players.
We have athletes. I believe we could put together a powerful team no matter what the style is, if we just give the kids a coherent way to play and a structure where they can learn how to play.
Well
When I heard that Bill OBrien was hired, I was like
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgiulvRk351qf6y79.gif
but then I was like
Defense wins championships
by psu_all_day on Jan 7, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
because he's a smart guy
LJ is a recruiting BOSS and he doesn’t want to lose this class
Defense wins championships
Because LJ kicks that much ass
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 7, 2012 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like LJSr is the only one he met one on one so far
by danpsu97 on Jan 7, 2012 12:10 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Keeping LJ was the biggest no brainer ever
Keeping LJ was the smartest move he could have possibly made.
I’m actually impressed that he convinced him to stay. I kind of thought he might leave after the way they treated Bradley.
He's not going to keep all of them.
So how does he know LJ is the best of them if he hasn’t met with the rest of them?
Stop being an engineer, Enrg02!
LOL!!!!!
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Who says he's allowed?
jtothetweet
Yet, bag or not, it’s nigh on impossible to mistake a cat for a pig.
Because LJ said, if you don't keep me, I'm gonna whoop ya' ass
And then they hugged as grown men do.
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Perhaps Joyner isn't as clueless as everyone thinks.
O’Brien said there were many deep and private discussions about the program. Could it be that Joyner had a very specific discussion regarding the retenion of LJ Sr?
I'd like to believe that BOB
made that call, esp. since he is locked down with the Pats. I’d really be impressed if BOB made that a hiring condition, rather than Joyner thinking of it.
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Either way...a great move.
Along with tears in my eyes with Joe’s mention, had me applauding the LJ announcement.
Reports are that LJ had his things packed, expecting he was going to be let go
It sounds like LJ had no idea he’d be asked to stay. That makes me think Joyner had nothing to do with it.
OK let's play that out..
Had Joyner committed, one way or another, to Johnson or any of the other coaches, that would have thwarted O’Brien’s ability to assemble his own staff. I chose to believe this move was one of those intense discussions O’Brien referred to.
If he just got hired yesterday
I doubt he would have had time to take the test. I mean, he’s got 15,000 things going on and he’s trying to do them all. I think he sounded good and looks like things are going in the right direction. I wasn’t sold on him before, but that definitely helped in moving forward.
He used the phrase "past couple of days" at least once.
And was officially hired last night. And said he’ll take the test “today or tomorrow”. You can’t recruit until you take that test. Losing lots of ground by not being on the horn. I can tell you that some of these commits are getting tired of the lack of contact. They need something, ANYTHING.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have to officially be hired before taking the test?
by Chris Grovich on Jan 7, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Probably.
That still gives him between 9p last night and “maybe tomorrow”. Should have taken it by now. One hour test. One. Hour.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
Right. Would seem to have broken the silence on the situation if O'Brien is taking the NCAA recruit test
I’m sure some reporter somewhere would have found that out and reported it.
I give him a b or maybe B+.
Wife’s grade is B+/A-.
She likes that Joyner looked “constipated” during the end of conference pics — thinks BOB tweaked Joyner with his references to JoePa and all.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
B+ on the merits
but Paterno love and LJ announce bump him up to an A-
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Interesting.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
If this is true, it's embarrassing.
And doesn’t make me feel any better about him as a flight risk.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
No way he signed on for this low a salary with a big buy out. My guess is run of the mill e.g. totally affordable for any NFL team.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think they would have if they had the big-name hire
But they don’t, so this isn’t terrible. Don’t overpay a guy who doesn’t have a solid history of winning.
by smashtheguitar on Jan 7, 2012 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
That's not his entire compensation package, most likely.
That’s the university contribution. He’ll get a Nike deal as well.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Well, honestly, we all kind of saw this coming.
Many would have been outraged had we paid him more.
by smashtheguitar on Jan 7, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
No one who matters.
This means we’re being outspent by just about every program in the Big Ten:
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/39131/a-look-at-big-ten-head-coaches-salaries
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Can't pay someone who hasn't been that successful.
Paying him 2 mil won’t make him a better coach. If he’s good, he’ll get there.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Jan 7, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
You commit to a good coach so he isn't looking around.
And more importantly, he’s underpaid even for his experience level. Hell, Minnesota is giving Kill $1.7MM.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Northern Illinois. Has never once been on a BCS staff. Would you hire Kill before BOB? I wouldn’t.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know whether I would or not.
But HC experience, even at a lower level, helps.
Also, we don’t know how many if any outside monies are attached to Kill’s contract, but there are undoubtedly a lot for BOB’s…Joe was making almost double his salary.
Fire Dan Snyder
You’re more than welcome to your opinion, but if we had hired Jerry Kill today this site would have literally blown up. LIke with fire and stuff.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I would have crammed
a pitchfork through my monitor.
I, for one, plan to continue my life long contempt for the powers that be and I fully expect to be disappointed with whatever choice is made. ~PSUgirl
Kinda like it did with the BOB announcement
There were essentially 4000 comments worth of pitchforks and torches.
And this salary means three very concerning things:
1. It’s highly likely part of the reason every turned them down was because the salary offer was always embarrassingly low.
2. Not paying him from the start means he’s a flight risk to the NFL. He can tripple his salary at even mediocre organization.
3. This makes me very, very concerned he’s been given a pathetic budget to go out and hire a staff.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Why would they give Chambers a big budget
but not BOB? That doesn’t make sense to me.
Though, very little has made sense to me.
Fire Dan Snyder
It’s a totally different scale, isn’t it? Both is avg salary and number of hires.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Somewhat disagree, KP.
I think it forces him to go after some young coaches — which aligns with many of the griping about the age/longevity/staleness of the current coaches.
Glass half-full, I guess.
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, we have no way of knowing.
What is that budget is used for raises for LJ and Ron Vanderlinden? That’s worth it, to me.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 7, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
You're doing the wait and see thing, which is fine.
If paying the 11th highest salary in the Big Ten means we have the highest paid assistants, then I’ll redact all of this. I’m not optimistic.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Kill's comp may also be inflated simply because it's Minnesota
I’d imagine they have to overpay above market a bit to get a decent candidate to take on that challenge
by danpsu97 on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He goes out...
and gets you to a BCS bowl game in the first two or three years, then you’ll see an extension and a raise. Couldn’t pay him 2 or 3 million off the bat, the moral crusaders on their high horses would have clucked their tongues at it.
Sigh.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 7, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
So the status quo remains
Without the legendary coach to make us feel better about it
I am a Penn State Nittany Lion, and I played for the legendary Joe Paterno, and more importantly, I am a man because of it. - Lavar Arrington
Lets be real here
spending money on a coach makes us pro-child rape
would you feel better about paying him a lot more money?
I definitely wouldn’t. If he earns it, he will get more money.
Fire Dan Snyder
i agree, at this point
he isn’t worth it. why over pay for a bad hire? if he wins he will get more.
Not at all
If this was the best we could do, and I support BOB after he won me over with this press conference, then the money is about right.
I just wonder if we got him partially because we weren’t committed to spending like the big boys.
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This is my main concern
It would explain why we reportedly were only interested in him and Munchak.
Every time he tweets, he gets a 5 percent raise?
Man, these times we live in.
by Salt on Jan 7, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember thats just salary not total compensation
JoePa’s total compensation was something like just over double of his base salary, so at that rate the real compensation would be more like 2 million per year.
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This is true for all of these guys, though. When you compare this base to other BCS coaches it’s right at the very, very bottom.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Conversely.
Could PSU really pay this guy more than Paterno? If he does well in the two years, they’ll renegotiate the contract (especially if the NFL comes calling).
by Chris Grovich on Jan 7, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Of course they could.
Every other school in the big ten was paying their coach more than Joe.
And I don’t like starting with this low offer, it sets up a confrontational situation down the road if he succeeds. If you’re that down on his ability to perform at a Jerry Kill level, which is almost double his base, then why hire him?
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
At this point we should
just be happy if he succeeds and leave it at that.
yeah
if he wins he’ll get paid. Or he’ll bolt and we’ll have saved some money.
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It's setting us up for trouble. Stability should have been a priority. It wasn't.
I’ve been snapping at people over this so I’ll calm down, but I really don’t like this. At all. An extra $500k goes a long way, and is chump change.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think I posted this above
but the University has released his full compensation (not just base) is about $2.3 mil/year
Fire Dan Snyder
well he's getting 2.3 mil with the endorsements and everything
I hope thats enough.
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per numerous tweets now
with Nike & media compensation, he’ll make 2.3 mill per year
Fire Dan Snyder
Every other major program's coach is getting that extra boost too. It doesn't justify paying so low IMO.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
His lack of head coaching experience does though
I mean this really is a high risk/high reward type hire. If you don’t buy low on high risk, you’re doing it wrong
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by psuphysicist on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
it’s not high risk when you’re paying him this salary — you’re not risking anything. It’s just a cheap hire.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Which begs the question
Did we not get anybody else because we wouldn’t spend?
I agree this guy shouldn’t get more because he isn’t proven but say Joyner set a ceiling of a mil or so? That would sure limit the options.
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I think even Joyner
is smart enough to realize you don’t set a low ceiling for each candidate. I’m very good at what I do, with 28 years of experience; a company that thinks they can get me for the price of a 25-year-old with six months’ experience as an intern is crazy.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
It still suggests they were low-balling people.
by Kevin Powers on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
only if you want it to
to others it shows they paid what the guy was worth. i hate joyner, but i am not going to think this was the same package he offered everyone.
by FB6244 on Jan 7, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
But you're giving him the benefit of the doubt
which I am not giving him. Not until he does something that makes that warranted.
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I wouldnt be surprised if they did
but I think his pay is fair, for what he brings.
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he made it up
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It was a guess since someone else said he was targeting a new DL coach,
which they thought would mean LJ was gone.
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I believe it was speculation at this point......
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BTN guy just asked BOB about McDaniels being hired by NE
He seemed pretty surprised by it and didn’t really know how to answer it. Said soemthing about having to talk with Bellicheck about it. Made some small comment about being here the past few days and not knowing….
Sounds like maybe the Pats hired somebody without telling him. He may be back in SC before he realizes
I don't know what NFL coaching rules are, but if BOB can hand off some duties, that would be huge.
Also, he needs to start naming those coaches immediately. LJ is a boss, but he can only do so much on the ground alone. 14 current commits and ~10 spots remaining, let alone keeping the players happy and in State College.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Question
What if he doesn’t fill all ten open spots? Save some for a bigger, more elite class next year?
Think you can have 85 scholiies total
but no more than 25 in a year.
Not 100% sure about that . . .
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
So it depends on how many kids leave after 2012.
No idea how many that might be.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
That is an option
Though usually only with a couple, which in the meantime can be used to reward a walk-on senior or two for busting their humps for years with a scholarship for their last year. But as a new guy I don’t know if he would have a clue who to reward.
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That's possible, but then you're wasting scholarships.
You could give them to walk-ons and then rescind, but that’s kind of a dickish move, one Paterno never really used.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I was under the impression we did give preferred walk-ons that sort of deal for a semester or so, as a tuition break for them, but I suppose I’m wrong.
No, I think that's right.
There have been walk-ons who get a scholarship for a year, then go back to walk-on status. I think Jeremy Boone was one of those. Hell, McGloin’s on scholarship now, that had to some from somewhere.
I don’t think we could pocket ten of them, but definitely a few.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 7, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Well I was thinking like five or so. Can we really fill ten spots with quality players at this point? Of course it depends on how many open spots will already be available next year, and keeping it at 25 or under
The 25 number isn't going to be our problem, this year at least.
It’s the finding quality kids this late in the game.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, that's sort of what I meant.
You don’t keep 10 spots open and hand them out. Also, I’m not entirely sure PSU used the one-semester and back method too frequently. Pretty sure Joe was a “once I give you a scholarship, it’s yours” kind of guy. If there were extras, they likely went to 5th year guys that had been solid contributors to the team (scout team, kick coverage, etc.)
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
BTN guy asked BOB about JoePa if he wants to talk to him
He said he would love to talk to JoePa and learn everything he can from hiim
by jetskijoe on Jan 7, 2012 12:20 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Ok, I'm checking out
The dog needs to go out. Apologies for my crankiness earlier; no harm intended. Thought he did as well as anyone could hope or expect. I am hopeful for a more exciting and diversified offense and happy that LJ is staying.
Here’s hoping!
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I need to find a tree myself.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Audible multiple formation boner.
At the end of the BTN interview, the reporter said that in the Gator Bowl, O’Brien’s offense checked from a wishbone formation to a 5 WR. Our PSU QB’s weren’t allowed to change anything.
Interesting point from the BTN guys, tho.
That multiple-formation schemes are tough to do at the CFB level. Wider range of talent at that level.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Dinardo's points were kind of spot-on.
College scheming is more about using talent advantages (if you have the talent) or neutralizing them (if you’re the little guy). NFL is about confusing the other team and getting them out of position, because everyone on the field is a top-tier athlete and has been drilled on your every tendency.
Also, college is about taking raw talent and developing it, and teaching players to do simple things right on a consistent basis.
by Salt on Jan 7, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
But BOB also said he would evaluate the players and adapt the offense accordingly, unlike DickRod saying he would implement his scheme, regardless of how it fit Michigan and the B1G style of play. +1 for BOB.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely liked that statement
A lot. Cause theres no way we can come out and run the Pats O Scheme with what we have right now.
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Sure, but the "multiple multiple multiple" thing was too Weis-like for my tastes.
You can’t bring a whole new set of concepts to the table every week when you’re dealing with 18-22 year olds. You teach them a system and how to succeed in it, and keep their decision making simple, then practice in a way that you can expect them to execute consistently.
In that sense, RichRod was right. I honestly don’t think he failed because he ran a certain offensive scheme. He failed because he rubbed people the wrong way, and he was a complete cluster on defense. His offense would have been fine once he got a full team with his guys, his S&C program, and his system.
by Salt on Jan 7, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If we moved to five-wide, Bolden would poop his pants.
And then we’d call two timeouts.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Get Rob the toilet paper ASAP!
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by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on how long he stays here!
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by joefromboalsburg on Jan 7, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
You know
all the negativity wouldnt have existed had A) BOB’s side not leaked a ton of info about the hire before today or B) Joyner could adapt to the situation and move the PC up and dole out some info after the hire became known. Really, more bad PR.
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The negativity wouldn't have existed if Joyner wasn't a cock.
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by jman07 on Jan 7, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that too
But I’m not sure thats something he could have changed.
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I think this is a lot of it.
People didn’t trust Joyner at all, because he comes off as such a dickhead. If Joyner had done things to convince people (and especially the lettermen) that he knew what he was doing, there would have been less backlash.
Does Bolden Get A Start in the Blue/White Game?
Why didn’t anyone ask this question?
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by joefromboalsburg on Jan 7, 2012 12:34 PM EST reply actions
Because he hasn't even met the players yet and you want him to start judging him?
That’d be a terrible question to ask him today, even more terrible if he actually answered it.
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My first post on BSD...
had me trying to think of something cool and worthwhile, but I don’t have anything except for a question:
Will O’Brien be referred to as BOB or COB or both? COB would go along with the P1G and CGRN division names, except for the fact that we are in P1G…..
On a side-note – I love this site and have been trying to keep up with the articles/posts/comments for some time – I believe its called “trolling”? Anyway, a friend said its fun to read the comments during games, so I had to experience it first-hand with the Bowl – very entertaining – thanks to all!!!
lurking
dont go trolling
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I assume lurking is reading
and trolling is causing trouble?
Yes, you got it.
Welcome aboard, btw!
I’m fairly new myself — folks here are FANtastic!!!
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Trolling would be
“well at least we have a head coach who won’t poop his pants”
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Time will tell
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by joefromboalsburg on Jan 7, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
That's true, we don't know which local restaurants he's tried yet.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 7, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
He ate at CC Peppers.....
and he made it through the presser without a problem, so I guess he’s OK!!!!
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by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Depends.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank God for their inventor.....
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by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Is that endorsement?
j/k!
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, like you people never sharted before.
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Definition of "surprise":
A fart with a lump in it.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly......
I am as I write.
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by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Trolling means you channel posters like
M1EK or 1LisHell — poor role models.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Or the greatest of all
skins4ever
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Well, I'm going to call him Potatoes...
Potatoes O’Brien. Originating from Boston, something inexpensive hoping to look better than what it is.
Speaking of food...
When I said the new Coach’s name to my wife, she said “Oh, I like Chicken O’Brien from Carrabba’s”….she isn’t a football fan, but can still appreciate my love for PSU and accompany me to all the homes games.
Your wife sounds hot.
(Standard reply — don’t get upset!)
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
My wife reads these boards, Mike.
Is trying to decide on an avatar and handle right now. There are BSDivas who post on here — NotCarlotta, Letsgopsu, Paige, et al. Your wife may get hooked if she reads the comments here.
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I'm hooked
and lurk much more than I post…but may start posting more if I get to be a BSDiva. Thanks for all the information and always interesting conversation!
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by nps on Jan 7, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Welcome, friend.
I like BOB for now, but also like your common thread suggestion of COB.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 7, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
You say....
BOB…I say COB……BOB-COB, BOB-COB!!!!
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by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Omar......
that’s what they say in the Western Sector of Bodymore, Murderland!
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by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
BAL-tee-more
Reading your profile, I would say meeting the cast of The Wire was the coolest thing, if you didn’t also add that you met two popes and Lech Walesa
ditto
I have to agree. Reading the comments on these boards have really kept me sane. I don’t respond nearly enough but aside from a few trolls this is a great forum.
by Swiddy on Jan 7, 2012 12:42 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
coaches
Big ten network mentioned this, do you think BOB will be an offensive coordinator or hire one? Stupid football question but if we hire an offensive coordinator what does the HC do during the game?
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As long as he only hires one
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by PSU_Buch on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hells yeah!!!!
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by DerryPharmer on Jan 7, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I would think he will hire one
He seemed to be big on bouncing ideas back and forth with his staff. That would lead me to believe he wouldn’t run the offense all on his own.
Chew out the officials.
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by Succss With Honor Always on Jan 7, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Tom Bradley released a statement
Statement issued today from Coach Tom Bradley:
“Penn State has been my life. In my nearly four decades in Happy Valley, I went from a kid who loved football to a man who cherished and respected the game for the life lessons it taught. I learned many of those lessons under a great mentor and coach in Joe Paterno and I have dedicated my life to trying to help other young men, like myself, realize their potential both on and off the football field.
As a former player, I want to acknowledge and thank my teammates who have remained lifelong friends and confidants. Our friendship didn’t end when we hung up our blue and white jerseys – it only became stronger. As for my fellow coaches, the bond we share is irreplaceable in my life. And for that, I am incredibly grateful.
As a coach, I am most proud of how many of our players have gone onto lead lives dedicated to making this world a better place. I have always believed that football was just one part of preparing student athletes for the next chapter in their lives. Those chapters – lived by our players after the games ended – define the Penn State football tradition. I want to thank every one of our players who gave their talent, effort and most importantly, heart to Penn State. It has been my life’s privilege to coach you.
I also want to thank President Erickson, the Board of Trustees, Administrators and Faculty for the chance to be a part of Penn State University. This is a world class academic institution and I am proud to not only work here but to be an alumnus.
Finally, to our fans and alumni, your support has been incredible, not just this year but for the 37 years I have been here as a player and a coach. You make Beaver Stadium come alive. You are our heart. Make sure that our team – and our opponents – never forget it.
I wish Coach O’Brien all the best. No matter the challenges that the university may face, Penn State will always have my support. This is forever my home and forever my family. It is important that we come together to support our players and our university. Now is the time to demonstrate that we are – and always will be – Penn State. "
Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/01/07/3044032/outgoing-coach-tom-bradleys-full.html#storylink=cpy
by Chris Grovich on Jan 7, 2012 12:49 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
What a man
what a bro.
I have some serious man-love for TB.
Wow.
I hope he doesn’t go anywhere else. I want him as AD atleast.
Brilliant!
Dump Jointsmoker for Scrap — all in favor, say “AYE!”
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bad news, Joyner's going to hold on this job as long as humanly possible.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Well then I might just have to remove him.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I read that as
“Until we the alums reconfigure the BoT and they fire Joyner.” Three years, tops.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Do alums have any power at all in removing him?
Other than closing my wallet that is. Which I will be doing until he and Erickson are gone. Thon will thank me.
We can vote for Trustees
who can fire/hire administrators.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
I'm excited to see who is running
I want Franco dammit.
by OmarLittle on Jan 7, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What a human being
Please dont go to a B1G school so I can cheer for your team
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Can't type . . .
Someone brought an onion into the room — eyes watering . . .
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 7, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
He is such a class act
He really deserved better in all of this. I would love to see him stick around, but I certainly see why he won’t.
I wish him all the best. He deserves it.
I would like to see a movement
to have Bradley awarded Distinguished Alumni status; it’s the highest recognition a Penn Stater can achieve, and after everything he has done throughout his career, especially in leading the football program through a dark period of uncertainty with dignity and grace, I think he has earned it.
Call for nominations is in early Fall: http://alumni.psu.edu/awards/individual/daa/distinguished.htm
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by PSU_Buch on Jan 7, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I believe in "innocent until proven guilty"
but this DA award needs to be revoked if/when: Gerald A. Sandusky ’66, ’71g H&HD
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Damn, Tommy.......
I said I was done crying.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
okay, about to risk getting banned. my guess: every woman on here will call me a "cad" and every guy on here will be secretly nodding in agreement.
Woman’s basketball would be better if the players wore uniforms similar to the uniforms worn by the Volleyball players with the shirts even less blouse-y. I’m not saying go all the way to beach volleyball or anything, but … we’ll you all know what I’m saying.
how would it be "better"?
just curious on your use of that word. I’m sure it might be more enjoyable for you guys to watch, but that doesn’t make it “better”.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Jan 7, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If it works for womenV-ball...
1. why don’t the basketball ladies wear those unis?
2.
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