The Staff: Running Confirmed List
by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 7:12 PM EST
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PrintHead Coach/Offensive Coordinator - Bill O'Brien
Defensive Coordinator - Ted Roof
Quarterbacks Coach - George Godsey
Running Backs Coach - Charles London
Wide Receivers Coach - Stan Hixon
Tight Ends Coach - John Strollo
Offensive Line Coach - Mac McWhorter
Defensive Line Coach - Larry Johnson
Linebackers Coach - Ron Vanderlinden
Defensive Backs Coach - John Butler
Graduate Assistant -
Graduate Assistant -
Strength Training - John Thomas
Recruiting Coordinator and Special Teams coaches will be added as duties are assigned. It looks like we're done with former staff retention. The rest of the chart will likely be filled out with new guys. Rec to pin, please. Updated as official news happens.
UPDATE (9p, Monday night): Two spots left. We're hearing that O'Brien might assume the OC responsibilities, so that could mean a dedicated special teams coach, or a split defensive backfield.
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No change from HIT? RABBLE RABBLE
Just wanted to get that topic started.
Consider this my official declaration of non-support of child molestation.
Is JT official?
Where was that?
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Audrey Snyder tweeted it, per the players.
And Giger tweeted the QB coach thing, per McGloin.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 7:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Per Giger
Matt McGloin said he expects an entirely new offense and for O’Brien to be his QBs coach. McGloin still has to take concussion tests.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully Matt McGloin won't be running the new offense
Or if he is, that it’ll be better suited to his skills
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I agree, but I'm just not sure who else is going to be running the offense next year if not McGloin
A kid who can’t throw, a kid who can’t get eligible, or a true freshman…..sounds like the beginning of a joke
Belive!
it worked for Tebow amirete
"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
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by letsgopsu on Jan 8, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
rec!
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by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 8, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
that is from his Facebook page, fwiw
I did not make that
"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010
Love that it shows him scrambling
And, as such, his scrambling form.
jtothetweet
Yet, bag or not, it’s nigh on impossible to mistake a cat for a pig.
That it comes from HIS facebook page...
makes it only harder to not do this caption to the picture:
“OH SHIT!!! BETTER GO DERP!!!”
Sorry. Sorry… but somebody had to do it. Especially since he probably photo shopped that pic himself.
"Publicity is like poison. It doesn't hurt unless you swallow it."
Joe Paterno
Please answer 'yes' or 'no:'
…are you two still dating???
" When you cross that Blue Line, you are mine...Across the Blue Line, it's all football. " " And what you need to do in your life is paint Blue Lines everywhere. " - Joe Paterno 2009
by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 9, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
How many chances will this Bolden kid get?
Gets a shot as a true frosh, gets another shot as a sophmore, gets the bowl game, and now gets a new coaching staff. I can’t help but think that all the QBs mentally are thinking that this could be yet another fresh start.
Another year of QB Controversy….Yay!!!
LJ/Vandy...nice
All new O staff…even better.
Still think you will see Jay Pa in some form of media relations / AD type role…he is a great face for PSU, smart and well spoken….def in non coaching role…
May no act.................
by SweepTheLeg on Jan 8, 2012 7:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Okay I am ignorant
What is HIT?
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
High Intensity Training
Our strength and conditioning program…
All of our comments are irrelevant - LetsGoPSU
Well, HIT isn't a joke
It’s a very valid way to work out, and it has its advantages. But I will agree, that it’s not a very good way to train football players.
I'm very confused by this discussion.
I remember hearing at one time someone cite that the majority NFL teams don’t use HIT as proof. But when I looked it up just over 40% of teams used it. I have a tough time thinking that if it’s such a bad program that almost half of the NFL S&C programs use it.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 8, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Are they winning NFL teams,
or losing?
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Great question, 84.
I read it a couple years ago, and the article was circa 08 or something. It didn’t give a breakdown of which teams. I also thought it didn’t answer well enough whether it was the only method of training. Although I’m pretty sure it’s not the only training our players do, supervised or otherwise.
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I know nothing about S&C.
When I was in the Army, we still did push-ups and lifted weights that were iron bars with concrete on the ends. But, I do know at times our OL are shoved around, even tho there seems to be no weight diff btwn the d-linemen and ours guys. And our OL seem to tire out towards the ends of games,
IDK . . .
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Considering...
the turnover rate of winning/losing teams in the NFL, it is probably both.
Sigh.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 8, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe at different times?
Use HIT in the early off-season and then more raw power training as the season approaches?
I don't know.
Or maybe HIT being a problem is completely untrue. As someone point out in another thread earlier today, are people seeing a problem with the strength of our DLinemen? Was Dev Still not getting enough push? Odrick? Crawford? Ogbu? How about our LBs or FBs? You don’t think Zordich is getting top quality training?
Seems to me the problem was OL instruction. I remember HBeach saying he learned more in 5 months in the XFL than he had learned his entire life (I think he meant about the position, and not life in general, we’ll have to ask him to clarify). Should a 5 year all B10 PSUer be saying that?
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Hbeach said that?!
Well then. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Kenney. I know HBeach played for him and not Cirbus, who was already gone.
I don't want to twist his words or anything,
maybe he meant about life and not the OL. I didn’t get that impression though. Who knows.
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No, he did say something like that.
Pretty sure he learned it from one coach, too. But I think he also qualified that while he wished he’d known it in college, there really wasn’t time or something like that to learn it that way and/or well in college.
Good point.
In the XFL you are a full time football player.
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Injuries?
My trainer, who studied at Penn State and is very critical of the athletic department’s S&C believes the system contributes to injuries. Then again, lifting free weights can also cause injuries and it’s also possible that we’ve simply reached a point in the development of strength training where guys are too big for their bones and tendons. That’s not only true at PSU or in football.
by reedjohnmiller on Jan 9, 2012 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I once got tendonitis...
playing Xbox. The program may be fine. Stuff happens.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
I hope thats a true story
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
And now I have a Kinect...
The thing is murder. If you are going to replace HIT… I suggest the Gunstringer game. I’m exhausted.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
EA Active
That thing is relentless once you get to week 3 or so. Great workout, but you’re drenched by the end of it. The only break you get is loading screens.
I like EA Active
but Zumba and Just Dance are fun too
Just Dance has Robin Sparkles “Let’s Go to the Mall”
"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010
Tore my rotator cuff in '09
playing WII tennis and baseball all winter long.
I obviously forgot my stretching and warmup routine from my ath-a-lete days, and paid big time.
Yes – it suqued.
What the hell just happened?
by Pete the Streak on Jan 9, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
In all seriousness,
I have the “Your Shap Fitness 2012” game for the Kinect - And keep in mind I’m a distance runner who ran a marathon in November - and the thing can be a killer. I stupidly started at the advanced stage - you know… because I RUN 13.1 AND 26.2 MILE RACES!!! - and the thing kicked my butt.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
Total Fail 2012
Didn’t mean to do the strikethroughs.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
I prefer to read this as though you're a delusional out of shape guy.
just like me
I'm the XBOX to your Atari.
by WorldBFat on Jan 9, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nope.
I’m kind of a fitness fanatic. And in the cold Pittsburgh winter… that game is a pretty good way to stay in shape. And I have a new baby, so if she’ll behave in her swing, I can work out and still watch her. Of course, she thinks daddy is an idiot who punches at the TV. And she’s not wrong.
I just don't want to die without a few scars. ~Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club, Chapter 6
I don't know much of anything about S&C
But I talked to someone who works in the field who said the difference in these programs is negligible.
Adam Rittenberg looks like he gets his strength and conditioning from a jar of Fluffer Nutter.
by Pentimental on Jan 9, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Just trying to open it!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Rittenberg's prediction for next year
is 7.5 wins, and his sole logic is “staff in transition.” No consideration of whether the coaching staff might actually be an upgrade, no evaluation of the depth chart or returning players.
Deep, deep, analysis on his part.
Looking at our QBs, losing so many on the OL, and our entire secondary,
and at the fact that we have a first time head coach, it seriously could go anywhere from 5 to 11 wins.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 10, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
do they stay at Holiday Inn Express?
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THERE it is!
BSD needs STL talkin HIT!
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Yet, bag or not, it’s nigh on impossible to mistake a cat for a pig.
I'm optimistic that Scrap may stay.
My family/co-workers say it’s just b/c I like looking at him on the sidelines, but it’s more than that, I swear!
I could see the possibility of DC being offered to him but needing a bit of time to think it over. (It may just be my wishful thinking.)
I guess we should know by mid-week.
Tom Bradley.....
WAS interviewed for the HC position only….NOBODY on the old staff was. They were contacted for interest in staff positions only. That’s why you had Tommy’s Farewell Address to Troops yesterday after BOB was indeed confirmed as HC.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
It was a .....
would you consider a staff position too?…..Tom was not given that option.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
I'm a bit confused
I didn’t think they had to interview to keep their jobs before anyone was hired as HC.
My understanding was that Tom and LJ interviewed for the HC position.
When BoB was hired, Tom was relieved as interim HC, but not as DC. BoB stated he would be meeting with the others. I would think it would be up to BoB to decide who stays/goes now.
Are you saying he has NOT met with Tom?
And Tom said the letter was not meant as a good-bye, but as a thank-you. (I focused on the part that read: “I am proud to not only work here but to be an alumnus”)
Granted, I tend to be annoyingly optimistic (at least when it isn’t MY life) so I’m still holding out hope until I hear something official.
No matter what, Bradley has a fan that will cheer for him wherever he may go.
Knowing Tom....
as I do, one cannot possibly go wrong if you “root” for him……unless the situation really changes, I am hoping that BOB and Tom would consider a DC position, but I really think that Tom’s interview was for “courtesy” and PR. I really hope that I am 100% wrong, but……would you not think it would have been a done deal already if he were to stay?
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
Now, if Tom accepts this supposed Iowa DC offer....
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 8, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
I wish Tom......
all of the best in whatever he does. He is a quality person, in and outside of FB. He is what alot of people aspire to be—-decent, engaging, honest and a man with integrity..There is no BS with Tom, he is what he is—-a great Man. So before I finish this “obit”, I will root for Tom even if he comes back as an opponent.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
Ah, same, I was just playin' around
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 8, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
What?!!!!
We’re trying to be serious here….we’re talking about S&C (he says, tongue firmly planted in cheek—mouth, that is).
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
I cannot put into words
how COMFORTING a HITS debate is right now.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
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by PSU_Buch on Jan 8, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Tom Bradley is a Paterno guy
This is exactly what I’d expect from one.
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by Kyle_Martin on Jan 8, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
MAybe that's the hitch
Again, “Pollyanna” chiming in here.
Maybe he was two offers and is trying to decide. That’s why no news???
I respect Iowa, so I wouldn’t have a big problem with that (better than Pitt- sorry- I may have been young at the time, but the rivalry from the 70s still sticks with me.)
I’m still hoping for him to stay with PSU.
Correct. LJ and Jay were interviewed.
Vandy may have been, too.
if you want a shot at Scrap,
you will be fighting me and Paige for him
"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010
LOL!
Am I allowed to bring all 900+ of my students to back me up? They may be young, but the kindergardeners fight dirty! :)
by wonderlin on Jan 9, 2012 7:48 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Dammit!
I was just about to type ‘CAT FIGHT!’, but this development changed my image of it.
jtothetweet
Yet, bag or not, it’s nigh on impossible to mistake a cat for a pig.
by jtothep on Jan 9, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Never raise your hands to a child --
it exposes your groin.
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 9, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
now this debate is leaking over from twitter last night?
LOL. I really thought letsgo had dibs…I’m not sure why.
Fire Dan Snyder
Lets just make sure
That the strict and binding rules of Dibs is adhered to ladies, we don’t want this to result in a oiled down mudd wrestling match to see who has the upper hand in “getting” scraps…or do we?
Okay, that is how iti will be settled, tickets available in advance and at the door!!!
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I didn't think so,
but she has Poz anyway. Why does she need Bradley?
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by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 9, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
fine, take him
JNitt told me no one wanted to marry me anyway.
"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010
I don't think JNitt
is the best person to make that type of judgment! LOL!
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by Paige2PSU on Jan 9, 2012 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
my response was more
who DOESN’T need Bradley? LOL
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Jan 9, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LJ and Vandy coming back...
Thank you Based God
How'd that cab ride go?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
John Thomas is a really good S&C coach
HIT is a really bad S&C program
hope they change it
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
That's been a complaint for years.....
in fact, if some of you recall, the S&C program was used a negative recruiting point by opposing coaches, especially during the “Dark Years”.
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT
I'm the XBOX to your Atari.
Oh god, not another stupid HIT argument.
I think Kenney being non-effective is a better argument for failed O-line production, rather than HIT.
A plateau is a high form of flattery.
Any possibility of...
Darren Perry filling the DB coach role? Not sure if he’d come back unless he got a promotion since he was interested in the HC job, but you never know?
by eternalpessimist on Jan 8, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions
I’d love for him to come back as DC/coach of DBs. Guy has learned defense from Capers and LeBeau. Plus hiring him would placate the Lettermen Club, I’d imagine
The LettermenClub.....
is about 50-50 right now….I don’t know what would placate them NOW, short of taking away the “acting” title on DisJoyner and giving him a phone # to call and summarily firing his ass…“Thanks for your input, and now please go the f&^k away.”
"The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Jan 8, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
+1
for this brilliant idea.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
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Well, this is another reason to be torqued at the AG
As long as the Curley suit is still out there, he stays on “leave” and the “Interim” title stays on Dave. So if the AG would just get that trial going (it’s not like it’s all that complicated – “Uhhh, I told him this”; “Uhhhh, no you didn’t”, “OK, thank you for the testimony. Jury, who do you believe?”). Then Curley could be fined or exonerated, get back in the office for a day, announce his retirement, and we could get an official AD (whoever that might be).
Unless Lackey/BoT/Gov give Curley a “deal” including his retirement package and pay his legal bills, then he can retire now and we can move forward.
*
Actually, I could see Joyner doing this himself
In a few months. Get the coach hired, work on hiring a new, real AD, go the f&^k away.
jtothetweet
Yet, bag or not, it’s nigh on impossible to mistake a cat for a pig.
I couldn't
because so far he hasn’t done a single thing that most of us would like, and that would be something we’d like.
Fire Dan Snyder
by Cari Greene on Jan 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So, it appears
the O-Line hire might be the most important upcoming hire. I think I believe that.
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Pipe dream:
Open the checkbook and hire Sean Kugler away from the Steelers.
"The limits of my language mean the limits of my world" -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
His kid is a top OL target in '13.
FYI.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
The older kid got a swchollie from Purdue, correct?
If you are tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department normally uses water.
Robert Kugler is at Purdue, yes.
Patrick is our target next year.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Brent Key is the name to watch.
Appears to be high on the radar, and I still haven’t seen anybody say anything bad about him. Spent time as TE, ST, and OL coach at UCF. His bio.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
my twitter is saying (so it's probably true)
from @laschout_org Mac McWhorter to coach O-Line, retired from UT 2 years ago.
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by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 9, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh
I hope this is wrong, my Longhorn friend hated this guy’s guts and no doubt will hate him until the day he dies. According to my friend, Greg Davis and McWhorter took one 5 star talent after another and turned them into Division 3 quality offensive linemen who couldn’t run block against cupcakes.
My cousin who is at UT
Would disagree with that statement. He didn’t like McWhorter’s termination after the 2010 season, said it was an overreaction to terrible QB and RB play.
short in stature, tall in power, wide of vision & narrow of purpose.
Flounders saying Ted Roof possible DC.
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Just read that he left Auburn to move to UCF just a month ago
Would he really leave 2 positions within a month? Not sure I want a guy like that on staff.
Isn't that the same deal with Solozzo
and . . . the other one? Forget his name. The two that took jobs at UMass in the past 10 days.
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So our HC cant leave because of committments
but that doesn’t apply to the rest of the coaching staff I guess.
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Yeah, I just checked it out,
looks like Roof took the job a year and a month ago. And the two UMass guys don’t appear to be on board so that would make more sense. I honestly think staying through the playoffs was a Pats condition of even allowing the interview, if you made me guess.
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that makes more sense
I was going to be pretty disappointed if he’s up preaching about commitments and has a bunch of guys on staff who arent following it. I’m still disappointed if it really is Ted Roof though.
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Yeah, me too.
Moreso if this Bernhardt guy counts as an assistant coach. How many O’Leary guys do we need?
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Or Duke guys?
I mean, if BOB added Coach K or Johnny Dawkins to his staff, fine, but recycling Duke coaches is like changing a flat merely by rotating it 180 degrees — I mean, it’s only flat on the bottom, right?
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 9, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I try to learn from experience, Ryan.
It only took me three flat tire events to understand that one . . .
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
AAAANNNNDDDDD
I was wrong. He has been DC at UCF for almost exactly one month.
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Does Not Want.
He was the HC at Duke when BOB was there, very rough four-year patch for the Blue Devils.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Also,
if we’re just going to hire all O’Leary’s assistants, why didn’t we just hire O’Leary?
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She also said it was so annoying that he practiced that thing in her basement all the time.
"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy"
I really hope that Roof does not become our DC.
He took took the same position at UCF that he had at Auburn because he was going to get fired if he didn’t leave voluntarily. He sucked as Auburn’s DC. They definitely regressed during his tenure. I would not be happy at all with this hire.
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Any word on how the players meeting went with O'Brien?
I heard some rumors that the players seemed to love him.
Haha,
well I don’t expect them to tell the press, “Wow, that guy sucked.”
The only noteworthy thing I saw was that McGloin said he’s rooting for the Pats to win the super bowl. If they lose I’m blaming him.
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Every single update on Twitter seems to indicate a home run.
Though any player that didn’t like him likely wasn’t going to say anything, so there’s that.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 8, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Well that's good to hear
And I’ll take lots of positive things people say over hearing nothing at all. I’m sure there are going to be a few guys who don’t like the change, but as long as the majority are happy, that’s a good thing.
In the McGloin video
There’s a sign on the wall, depicting what appears to be DC17 autographing a girl’s chest.
What a rock star.
by newenglandnittanylion on Jan 8, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I love Redd's little jab there.
“How did you find out he was going to be the head coach? Were you following the media?”
“I was, but with ESPN, you don’t really know what you’re going to get with them so…”
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
by mvrck on Jan 8, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 15 recs
another reason to love him
"There are too many Irish guys on this team"
Joesph Vincent Paterno
April, 2010
That was/is gold!
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by BlueWhiteLife on Jan 8, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha, so awesome!
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I am always impressed
by the poise and professionalism of our student-athletes on camera. What a great bunch of young men. Between this and the statements from Coach yesterday, I don’t see how anyone can turn their backs on this team. I want September to happen soon.
by cs93 on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LJ and Vandy staying on is just plain awesome
If we can keep putting excellent front 7’s on the field year after year the way these coaches always have, while also getting some fresh offensive coaches… am I crazy to think that the team will remain competitive with little drop-off?
by newenglandnittanylion on Jan 8, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions
I'm hearing a lot about Ralph Friedgen being the new OC.
I think Friedgen would be a solid pick for the staff.
Following a quick Wikipedia search
they averaged around 30 ppg, except in the lean years, when they dipped a bit lower. He was also the OC for Georgia Tech in 1990 when they won a share of the nat’l champ and was OC for the Chargers when they went to the Super Bowl in 94. Pretty legit if you ask me.
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Just saw on Twitter that Fridge-to-PSU rumors are false.
And that BOB will serve as OC. Not updating until I see solid evidence, but that’s where we’re at.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he isnt going to try and do the HC OC and QBs all at the same time
that seems like too much to have on one persons plate. I like the idea of a guy like Whipple coming in and being a QB coach/assistant OC or something. I feel like doing too much is the trap Charlie Weis fell into coming into college.
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Agreed.
There needs to be two coaches to handle HC, OC, and QB. I’m ok with BOB taking two of those things, but not all three. Seems like a lot to handle.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
How's the whole GA thing work anyway?
Do they get paid, or is there some sort of tuition reimbursement since they are Grad Students?
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Usually
GA’s get free tuition, have to pay fees, and get a small stipend for working within their department, always a fixed amount.
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When I was a GA at Penn State,
although not football. I didn’t have to pay tuition or fees and got about a $12,000/year stipend (that was 10+ years ago).
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At my one school
I had to pay fees, but each university has their own ways of doing things.
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I thought you were a GA on the football staff?
…didn’t you help out with the DE’s? Could have sworn I remember Courtney Brown thanking you on draft day for showing him the swim move.
Oh yes, that's so me! LOL!
I taught him everything he knows!
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Kermit Buggs has not been retained.
http://pennstate.247sports.com/Article/Buggs-not-retained-56235
Same with Bill Kenney, according to PSU recruit Jake Kiley on Twitter.
Oh, c'mon!
(grinning) Can we get this presented WITH commentary please?
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Here's his tweet:
@KBuggsGoPSF
Kermit E. Buggs
Just got the call this morning I am not being retained. I thank all of my followers in the Penn State Community!
Anyone who follows the recruiting trail
able to comment/speculate on how letting Kenney go affects our chances of keeping the NE recruits? O’Brien’s a Boston guy himself, so that should count for something.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
We need to keep Cam Williams
I hope keeping Vandy helps with that.
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Especially true
given that Wartman currently feels like a long shot to stay.
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Losing Kenney may lose us Cam and Armani.
We’ll see this weekend when every recruit is in town, and whether or not BOB can make it (Pats play at 8p Saturday night).
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
why is every recruit going to be in town?
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by BillyGoats_DC on Jan 9, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Just a major visit weekend.
Though since the time I typed that comment and now, things have changed. Two very big names won’t be on campus this weekend, unfortunately.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
So,
we’re back to no LBs in this class I’m guessing.
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Looking like Williams and Reeves are making visits to Michigan this weekend and possibly OSU after that.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Yeah,
and Wartman’s coach basically said if BOB isn’t there this weekend then he doesn’t know how he can go play for a guy he doesn’t know.
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My first reaction to him not taking the job right away was strongly negative
I sort of softened a bit after I heard is explanation, but comments like this from recruits put me back in the negative camp. Ugh.
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Forever.
Hopefully there is a plane waiting for him Sat night
to at least have breakfast with the guys Sunday.
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Hopefully, but I dunno if that would be enough
I get and even respect his desire to fulfil his commitment to NE. But let’s take Chin’s sentiment and flip it around to a recruits point of view…how can a recruit commit to Penn State if the HC won’t even commit to meeting the recruit? And not just to jet in and have breakfast with the guys, but to actually sit down and talk to them.
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Forever.
With this bad news, any educated guess on how many commits we may lose?
This is not good, now I may have to root for Tim Tebow…NOOOOOO!
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I don't get the Tebow hate
I’m for him. The rest of the NFL is populated with some d-bags who deserve it.
Also, you’re gonna root for Brady over Tebow? See example 1a) of a d-bag to hate more than Tebow: A prima donna asshole who was willing to leave his 5 months pregnant gf for another woman.
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Not a Tebow hater at all...
In fact out of all my friends, I am the only one who thinks he is a viable NFL QB (as he has shown) in the right system. I just don’t think they are good enough at this point to advance, and I think it’s a travesty if they do.
That being said, I would not be upset if they won this weekend, but I do want to see a competitive bunch of games and Superbowl, so I root for the good teams, since my team is out of it. The last thing I want to see is a blowout in the Championships or the Superbowl.
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Well I hate Tom Brady
mostly because he’s from Michigan, but also because he’s a deuche. Billichek is an assclown that dresses like a slob.
I loved the Patriots when they beat the Rams in the super bowl and they were a rag-tag group of guys that just wanted to play. With Brady and Bill as the face of that organization, I can no longer cheer for the rest of the good parts about the team.
Plus, what a hell of a story if Denver wins. If they somehow make it to, let alone win the superbowl, I’ll be excited when Jesus, Himself presents Tebow with the super bowl MVP trophy.
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Well let’s hope that doesn’t happen quite so soon. I’ve got a lot more sinnin’ and confessin’ to do before the Second Coming.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 9, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They cheated when they beat the Rams
I fully believe that,
I’m not a big Brady fan either and I hate the Patriots, hate seeing Robert Kraft’s pudgy face all over the place. But I do respect everyone you mentioned, including Tebow. They have proven themselves as good players and Bellicheck as a good coach.
Tebow has already proved the doubters wrong this year in my mind and if they surround him with better talent they will be much better next year.
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I'll reiterate my point, simply because it cannot be said enough
Brady went to Michigan. Ann Arbor is a whore.
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Haha...I don't think words are enough to personify your hate of Ann Arbor
I feel the same about Columbus….
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ShPitt
The years have not lessened my contempt for the Pansies, esp. when their fans cling to that pitiful 12 – 0 score to “prove” their superiority. They conveniently forget about Joe’s domination of them, Penn State’s overall series lead (in spite of the preponderance of the games being played at Pitt), and, most importanly, 48 – 14.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Wow, I didn't know it was that slanted....
I am not a PA guy originally so even though I totally see how PSU people may hate Pitt, I didn’t grow up here, so I guess I can’t really appreciate it.
But as an outside observer, seeing that record, I don’t know how Pitt fans can say anthing…that is pure domination right there.
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Hating Pitt
is like hating your less talented, athletically and intellectually inferior little brother. I just can’t bring myself to feeling anything but bad for them.
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by psuphysicist on Jan 9, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Which is amusing because as a Steelers fan
that is how I feel about the Browns
That which we are, WE ARE...PENN STATE.
Forever.
Contempt =/= hate.
To use your analogy, Physicist, it IS hard to hate your little brother, because he is your bro. You can, however, have contempt for him if he is a Billy Beer-drinking, womanizing, slack-ass, whining little brat who thinks he is too good to work/treat women right/etc., etc., etc.
Multiply those “attributes” by ten, and you have your average ShPitt fan.
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Pictured: Pitt fans
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by psuphysicist on Jan 9, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
05 was my sophomore year
If the refs hadn’t, on multiple occasions, provided such egrigious spots on third downs that resulted in first downs we wouldn’t have lost and I wouldn’t hate them so much.
Oh and this
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Yep.
To be honest, I hate Michigan more than I hate OSU and it has everything to do with 2005 (my junior year).
Run.
That was a horrible game...
The officiating WAS TERRIBLE. I was watching the game and going absolutely bonkers. And the Carr arguing for a better spot and getting it was just a sin….
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Not to mention those magical two seconds that he somehow convinced the officials to put back on the clock.
I know a lot of people around hear don’t mind L. Carr, but I loathe that whiney piece of shit. He reminds me of another loathsome college coach in Jim Boeheim (I’ve hated him years before this past November as well) in that they believe that every penalty called against their team is a crime against humanity. Seriously, fuck that guy.
Run.
Boy that video is so lame....
That I see where you are coming from now.
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I am STILL
waiting for a rational explanation about the extra 2 seconds added back on.
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"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
Carr asked really really nicely
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The fact of the matter
is that doesn’t even really bother me. If the step out of bounds had been called, or you know they not been gifted 3 yards on a spot on third down inside their own 30 to keep their drive alive, the conversation wouldn’t even be happening.
Although, the fact that they needed 2 seconds after everything else that had gone on that game is pretty telling
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by psuphysicist on Jan 9, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Don't forget...
the definite fumble that we recovered earlier in the drive, but was called down. I have never in my life seen a game that was more obviously handed to a team by the refs. (I wasn’t alive for the Black Sox). I hope the Big Ten is happy that it cost itself a possible National Championship.
The Big Ten is only happy when Penn State loses (and when it rains).
I think that’s always been the case and not just since November either, but since 1993, I truly believe this.
Run.
by Bob Sacamano on Jan 10, 2012 8:25 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It's hard to argue with this.
Especially if you look at a map of how the national title vote went down in 1994. The Big 10 areas didn’t do PSU any favors then, that’s for sure.
I've also heard, and I'm not sure that this is entirely true either,
That there is only one B1G ref who is a PSU alum and that he isn’t allowed to ref any PSU games, while on the other hand, Michigan has at least three alums who are B1G refs and they are allowed to ref games for their alma mater. Again, I cannot cite any of this, but this is the impression that I’ve been under for close to a decade and I cannot vouch for its validity.
Run.
by Bob Sacamano on Jan 10, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
In 2006
A couple of my friends came to visit me for the Michigan game and of course that weekend there were tons of people wearing the “Ann Arbor Is A Whore” t-shirt. Well, after a booze-fueled weekend, while we were waiting in line at the Waffle Shop on Sunday morning, my one friend asked me:
“Um, seriously, who is Ann Arbor?”
It was awesome.
Run.
by Bob Sacamano on Jan 9, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really hope...
You simply told them that you plant trees on Ann Arbor day.
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Just saw on Twitter that Cam is not cancelling,
but is rescheduling? So he can meet with BOB?
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Where did you see that? If so, that would be good news.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
PSUFootball
RT’d it. Looks like the original was written by one of the VictoryBellRings authors.
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Original story
I found this Story from earlier. Hopefully we can manage to keep these two in the class.
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
The same author said in the comments he's trying to reschedule
for the 27th.
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Yup, that's the news.
Since BOB won’t be there until really late Saturday night/Sunday morning at the earliest, Cam and Armani decided to reschedule. That’s good and bad; good in that they still want to meet BOB in person, but bad in that it now gives them a chance to visit elsewhere this weekend, rather than be surrounded by their fellow commits.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
this article is naming Ted Roof
as a candiate for DC.
http://blog.pennlive.com/bobflounders/2012/01/ron_vanderlinden_will_be_part.html
It makes a lot of sense. Hiring friends who have had prior success as coordinators. The guy was auburn’s DC for 3 years during their championship, in spite of his defense allowing over 400 yards per game that year.
New OL coach: Ball State's John Strollo?
So says Chris Lowry at WIOU in Indiana.
BSU Bio: http://ballstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=14200&ATCLID=205070017
John Strollo Bio
First Season at Ball State (2011)
31st Year as a Football Coach
Alma Mater: Boston College ’76
Coaching Experience:
Middletown South (N.J.) High School, assistant coach, 1977-79
Springfield College, graduate assistant, 1980
Northeastern, assistant coach, 1981-82
Washburn, assistant coach, 1983
Northeastern, assistant coach, 1984-90
Massachusetts, assistant coach, 1991-95
Lafayette, assistant coach, 1996-2000
Cornell, assistant coach, 2001-03
Maine, assistant coach, 2004
Duke, assistant coach, 2005-07
Elon, assistant coach, 2008-10
NOTES: Coached the offensive line under the direction of Ball State head coach Pete Lembo at Elon in 2009 and 2010 after coaching the tight ends for the Phoenix in 2008 . . . served as the offensive coordinator at Cornell and Northeastern . . . tutored Duke’s Cameron Goldberg, an offensive tackle, who was named the school’s 2006 Most Valuable Player . . . coached Duke tight end Ben Patrick, Cornell offensive lineman Kevin Boothe and Lafayette offensive lineman Jim Goff, all of whom played in the National Football League.
Personal Information:
Date of Birth: Jan. 20, 1954, in Long Branch, N.J.
Marital Status: Married to the former Janet Kowalski . . . two daughters — Katie and Emily — both graduates of Syracuse.
High School: Long Branch H.S. (Class of ‘72) in Long Branch, N.J.
College: Boston College ’76; Master’s – Springfield ’86
Is it wrong to trust talk show radio
even less than print media? Because I don’t trust them very much.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 9, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Nevermind.
Lions247 congfirmed on Twitter. Strollo it is.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 9, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
247's Sean Fitz is saying it's likely that Strollollolol will be coaching the TE's.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 9, 2012 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Suggests his OL coach is already in the fold maybe?
I can’t see any TE experience in his resume?
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Mac McWhorter from Texas (let go after '10 season) is the rumor.
Still trying to confirm.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
A couple of thoughts after reading the bio
1. A nearly 58-year-old coach with only 3 years of D-1 experience? Not exactly a lot of upward mobility going on there. Eek.
2. How bad did Duke have to be in ’06 for their OT to be named team MVP?
3. It makes me a little nervous how 2 of our 3 new coaches are coming from a Duke team that went 1-22 over a few seasons.
by TheWrathofQBEagles on Jan 9, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Your 2nd point...
Is hilarious! I’m sure it’s happened plenty of times, but not too many OTs get that kind of recognition.
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Strollo
My wife and all 6 of her older siblings graduated from Long Branch HS. I’m sure one of them was in school with him. I can make a couple calls, see what his days back at LBHS were like.
Also, there’s a chance he made be related to the Strollos of Strollo’s Lighthouse Italian Ice fame, with several stores along the Jersey shore. Not nearly as good as the Creamery, but still good stuff!
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Anyone know anything about our new coach for player development and research?
I saw that on 247 in the comments, didn't know it was official.
Sort of like an asst. recruiting coordinator type role?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Also coachingsearch.com
Penn State: I have learned that former UCF defensive line / recruiting coordinator Jim Bernhardt accepted the director of player development and research job at Penn State.
by LionInTheWeeds on Jan 9, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know anything about this guy...
But picking up a couple of good Florida kids every year to add to our solid Maryland base, couldn’t hurt (assuming the FL kids aren’t thugs). You know… because Florida kids are fast. Really fast. Maybe even… “elite”.
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by LB31Monster on Jan 9, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Player development and research
is even more inriguing of a position than Offensive Quality control. Are we working on the next million dollar man?
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by skarocksoi on Jan 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Stan Hixon
Wide receiver coach for the Buffalo Bills, will take the same job at Penn State, replacing Mike McQueary.
When you put those black shoes on tomorrow, and you put on that jersey without your name on the back, and you put that plain helmet on, that's tradition. Penn State tradition!
--Who else?
Just saw that...
on the twitters. I’m ok with it. Recruits/players seem to really have a lot of respect for NFL coaches, so I’m sure he’ll be well received. Maybe our receivers will catch balls next year!
The good news for Hixon is that Johnson didn’t blame coaching…just God.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 9, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is it just me...
While I feel the same way, I did enjoy his touchdown dance of Plax shooting himself…I thought that was pretty funny, didn’t think he should get fined for that.
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No. Fun. League.
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by blackjackfishtaco on Jan 9, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
LO tweet:
“Coaching Staff Rumor: Mac McWhorter to coach O-Line at PSU? Trying to verify. John Strollo from Ball State would likely coach TEs.”
McWhorter would be a TREMENDOUS hire.
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by DrewRusse on Jan 9, 2012 12:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Just looked this guy up.
Do all coaches on UT’s staff look the same? 9 years as UT OL coach is nice. Inroads to Texas players is nicer.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
Defense?
So far it seems like a nice group of coaches for our offense. Anyone hear anything about D-Backs or D Coordinator? I’m hoping it’s not Roof as DC
Updated with Hixon.
Still waiting to confirm McWhorter.
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I like the fact he rose through the ranks...
by starting at Morehead State, then Appy State… etc. Gotta respect that. Looks like he was a good receiver back in his day too.
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Whats McWhorter been doing post 2010?
employed?
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by BillyGoats_DC on Jan 9, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Texas had that terrible 5-7 year two years ago...
And they dismissed McWhorter, despite winning a national championship and being runner up. Their offense was terrible that year, so obviously Texas overreacted a little.
As to why he didn’t coach this year, I’m not sure….
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Because Texas couldn't contemplate that maybe the fact they went 5-7 was less because of their offensive line, and more the fact that they had a QB that made Bolden and McGloin look good.
Seeing as they just had Colt McCoy, and they are Texas, surely it couldn’t be the QB’s fault.
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Totally agree with that statement.
I watched a few of their games two years ago, and their offensive line wasn’t that bad. Their running backs and QB play were absolutely dreadful. I also have a cousin at UT and he would always say what you stated above…
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Texas offense was a disaster in '10, total inability to implement a new "let's run at least 10% of time PLEASE?" offense
Because their offensive lines could not run block against the likes of Iowa State and Kansas State. McWhorter rumor is my first real UGH.
I'm not disagreeing with you,
but I’ve heard that it was more non-talent at the QB and RB position. Granted, as I said above their O-Line play wasn’t great that year. But this guy did win a NC and was runner up two years…and didn’t they also win the Big12 a couple of times with him at the helm…he can’t be that bad.
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MacWhorter was named the nation's best assistant coach not too long ago.
I’ll go ahead and consider it a massive upgrade from what we had, despite the scapegoating down at UT.
by Chris Grovich on Jan 9, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah,
considering the existing coaches’ negative VORC, tough to be upset about anyone coming in at that position.
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Pretty cool and thanks.
Is this a Bill James type of statistic?
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What EREX said.
VORP is a term for a baseball player asking, basically, how much better is the player over any old average player floating around the league and freely available for you to plug in. The higher a player’s VORP, the more of a dropoff you would get replacing them with any available Joe Schmo. A negative VORP would indicate that any randomly available replacement would perform better.
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Hixon might mean it's not Roof
He was a coach on LSU when they won a national championship. (Doesn’t mean it’s not Roof, but it would take away the argument about him winning a championship at Auburn)
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However credible that is, says that it is Roof. Also says that Bernhardt will be that whatever position that is. Will that count as an assistant coach?
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I don't think so (re: player development whatever counting as a coach).
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I would have agreed, until I saw that he has the title of recruiting coordinator
at UCF. Wouldn’t that make him an asst coach?
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I would love for that to be the case.
I would also be interested in the, how would you word it, loophole that allows this? Do other programs have such a position? What other “support” positions like this are/can be exploited? Did we have them in the past? Do we want to go down that road?
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I know it is more important to have a good overall hire
than this aprticular recruting class, but if we lose some of the guys listed as taking other visits, I will be really dissapointed given they stuck with us through the begining of the scandal.
I hate that this guy didn’t start full time right away.
Maybe the new coaching staff...
Which looks pretty good so far at least, can turn these lumps of coal into diamonds. I think we have to hope that at least 1 or 2 of these guys will stick with PSU after their visits.
short in stature, tall in power, wide of vision & narrow of purpose.
It would be very upsetting if we lost more recruits AFTER making the hire
than we did when we didn’t have a permanent HC
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Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 9, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That would suck
AND swallow.
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My guess is..
That we will lose at least 2 more commits, I think anymore that that would be really bad.
short in stature, tall in power, wide of vision & narrow of purpose.
I'd still rather Key than McWhorter
Any updates on the Fridge?
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
I thought I saw that Friedgen
flat out denied it. Or that someone proved it false. Although from the sound of it this Roof thing has legs, sadly.
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Unless BoB
Is waiting for after the game tongiht to allow Kirby Smart to join our happy family.
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Heard it was all just rumor.
Seen BOB’s name attached to the OC position AND the QB position, as noted above. We’ll see what plays out.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Would roof mean the end of the soft cover 3 zone?
Could we potentially play some man coverage? ( .. GASP! )
The Buffalo Billy Goats .. and the Ice Goats
But seriously
Have you seen the guy’s record as a coach? This article kind of sums it up for me:
http://coachesbythenumbers.com/ted-roof-and-the-art-of-failing-up/
I’ve tried to be positive, but this is just crap!
Why did I have to read that?
Why can’t I just live in blissful ignorance?
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I have other depressing links as well..
but I’ll avoid sharing those.
Some are praising his “aggressiveness.”
I’m all for that, except when it doesn’t work and your D gives up almost 30 pts per game on average this season? (By my calculations, PSU gave up 16.77 on average.)
As a caveat though
while he was at Duke….he was at Duke. C’mon.
At Minny I think his defenses improved significantly from before he got there. Gave up hundreds less per game and close to tops in the B1G in turnovers.
At GT he won an assistant of the year award and his defenses ranked 12th in the nation and 20th in scoring defense.
At Auburn they were playing against some of the fastest and most talented offensive players in the country. Not saying giving up that much yardage and that many points is excusable by Penn State standards, but it puts it into context.
With the exception of Auburn, he’s had shit talent to work with, and at Auburn, he was playing against some of the best. At Penn State, I think he’ll find a happy medium: good talent to work with and offensive opponents that don’t also star on the track team.
Or maybe I’m talking myself into the hire.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
Welp,
Lins247 says Roof at DC is a done deal. Sounds like we should get ready to give up loads of passing yards and points?
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TED ROOF OR GTFO
I don’t know… Whatever. We know he’s going to have some good assistants and he’s buddy buddy with O’Brien. Could be worse… could have named LaVar or Brandon the DC.
Ted Roof is on fire!
(Save that one for when we’re getting lit up)
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let that motherfucker burn.
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by skarocksoi on Jan 9, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bob must have been tired of all the new found goodwill.
“I need to get these fans hating me again!”
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by WorldBFat on Jan 9, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
"How can I counteract all the kickassery of great defensive position coaches?"
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 9, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
He was great at Minnesota
Meh at Auburn
he’ll have a lot more to work with, and better assistants. I’ll wait to see how this one plays out
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 9, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
That won't pass the offseason
by nearly as fast as panicking about it will.
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You think he'll have more to work with at PSU
than he did at Auburn? Prior to Roof they were generally a very good defensive team.
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they may have been generally a very good team
but they still were no Penn State
Honestly, though, I really just think he wants to make it to all your fave teams, Paige. //not honestly
Fire Dan Snyder
Hodges is going to tear it up
I think he’ll have a huge season with Roof as DC
I’m sorry, this is something I have a very hard time being optimistic about.
He was only with Minnesota for 1 year, Auburn, 3years- 2 of those were their worst defensive numbers ever.
Longest he stayed anywhere was Duke with a lovely 4-42 record.
I can’t understand this hire, except for the fact they were friends. It just doesn’t sit right.
I hope with LJ and Vandy things work out. I’d hate to see the defense go backward.
I'm still waiting it out (despite the Do Not Want above).
He has the HC experience BOB lacks, and will be overseeing two of the best position coaches in the game. I love the man, but Tom Bradley’s Cover-3 wasn’t exactly cutting edge, so Roof could keep that in place at the least and the falloff probably wouldn’t be too extreme.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
You know what was cutting edge? This
Moral of the story: Sometimes staying away from trends is the better option
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by psuphysicist on Jan 9, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 13 recs
But..
hasn’t the trend at Penn State been Cover-3, for at least 12 years?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Are those pajama pants?
Seriously.
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Forever.
by Nittany_Ryan on Jan 10, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
No
They are the now infamous ‘whale pants’
I believe Jcrew still sells them, if thats the kind of thing you’re into.
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by psuphysicist on Jan 10, 2012 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
These were on my Christmas list this year. Sadly, sniff, I didn’t get them.
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Ted Roof? That's just turrible.
/Barkley’d
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First bad move....
The only thing this guy brings to the table ia a catchy tune you can hum every time we hear his name. LJ SR brings more to the table. I thought Poe Jaterno would be a much better fit as well…
yep, its on fire
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by letsgopsu on Jan 9, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Bold Ted Roof Prediction:
That “Graham Spanier” picture shown above (My God, the sneer… it’s uncanny!) will figure in approximately 11,846 Photoshops at BSD alone between now and the end of next season.
The depth of both my sadness and anger is unfathomable.
We (Still) Are...
Ted Roof's
defenses have given up miles and miles of yardage every year (and a ton of points) and we take him? I ask, when has he had ANY success? Coaching the junior high team? Bradley led the Number 5 defense in the country until the bowl game, and we let him go?
At first I liked O’Brien, but now it seems like he is just hiring his buddies to give them a job. I hope this wasn’t a huge mistake.
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by run4peach on Jan 9, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's the coaching profession.
It’s a lot of who you know. Trust me on this. I’ve seen it happen with friends* and people I know. One word from the right person can get you in. It’s like a fraternity.
*I have a very good friend who is an assistant head coach at the D2 level and also know two NFL head coaches (one of them right now a former head coach). The former head coach has helped the current one a lot with his career and the current one pretty much got my buddy the job he had before the one he has now. The former coach was also instrumental in another highly successful now former NFL head coach’s career.
It's not just the coaching profession.
If you take a new job at a business, or start up your own, you want people you trust. Sometimes, the familiarity of people is more important than their perceived talent level. I see it all the time in my business.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 10, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Greatest show.
Season Four is just incredible.
Run.
by Bob Sacamano on Jan 11, 2012 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
Insta-Rec
If Penn State fans and alumni truly believe that chant that echoes throughout Beaver Stadium ("We are....") then it's time to show it.
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 10, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Who is confirming the Mac McWhorter hire
only seen speculation, now it’s on the confirmed list?
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Ron Musselman of the PPG.
I asked him directly on Twitter. His confirmation is good enough for me. Also, the Scranton Tribue Times was the first official place I saw it.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
Roof confirmed personally
to espn.com.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 9, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks!
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by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 10, 2012 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
DC Rankings
From this website:
http://coachesbythenumbers.com/coach-rankings/?reportId=3
Tom Bradley ranked #6. Ted Roof ranked #61
Not exactly something I would call an upgrade.
by Nectir on Jan 9, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I cant believe the DC's
of Alabama, OSU, Oklahoma, LSU and VaTech wouldnt leave to come to Penn State to work for a guy they have no connection with.
AND I cant believe they havent been fired yet.
he seems to just be one of those guys
that does better with less talent.
Look at the year before Roof got there for Georgia Tech/Duke/Minnesota. Tnen look at his first year there. He took at least two defenses on the bottom of D-1 and got them to about as good as they could be given the talent, the schedules and the history of the program.
John Strollo
Can someone explain why we are hiring a coach to only coach one position? Generally, it seems that TEs are coached by the OL or the WR coach.
Will he have other duties besides TE coaching? Special teams maybe?
Scrolled over to some Ball State forum
Forum- singular
they seemed to be disappointed, said their OL made massive leaps forwards with him as the OL coach
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 9, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
In 2011, we had two coaches that covered the OL and TE.
In 2012, we’ll have the same.
Strollo might cover ST, who knows. But I’m just happy that there are no positions that are split up.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 10, 2012 6:20 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe it has to do with how heavily TEs are used in the Pats offense
by P. Incaviglia on Jan 10, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Grad assistant-Darryl Clark?
Anybody know the qualifications for a GA position?
I wonder if DC17 would be a candidate. The kid loves PSU, has some mad skill, could help BOB with some QB coaching, seems like his pro career hadn’t really taken off.
by kingkub on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Seems one of the posters here
saw him and found out that he had applied.. before life got turned upside down…
Lets hope he applied again…
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by jaytay13 on Jan 9, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
those that are concerned about roof
Ideally it will work out like the baltimore ravens, anyone who steps in to coach the D gets made to look like a rock star.
Roof...
He had a defense that was good enough to win a mNC. He held Oregon to 19 points (something Wisky couldn’t do) and his defenses were generally pretty stout in the 2nd half. Not the best hire in the world, but no the worst either.
Sigh.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 10, 2012 7:24 AM EST reply actions
Well its pretty easy not to be the worst hire ever
All that means is you have to be better than GERG.
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I'm much happier...
with a 50-20 win over Temple or Indiana than I am 10-7 or 16-10.
Sigh.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 10, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention...
a defense can be made to look a lot better if they are offset by an offense that can actually get first downs and control the clock.
Just imagine how good some of our defenses would have been (e.g., 2011’s) if they were only on the field 40% of the game.
by BNittsDeMilo on Jan 10, 2012 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's a very good point.
The less chances a team has to score, the easier it is to keep them from scoring.
And I still maintain that the 99 team lost to Minny because the offense couldn’t control the ball and get a first down when needed. Had they got the first down on their last drive that flukey play never happens. The did not need to score…scoring would’ve been great, but all they needed was a first down.
by J Breezy on Jan 10, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
same with Michigan game a week later
/leaves desk crying to go to the bathroom
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
awww
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by letsgopsu on Jan 10, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
i'm allergic to cats
you’re making it worse!!! ;)
"my dad says Michigan used to be good"
by hbeach08 on Jan 10, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
with a great offense
the defense could also be on the field 75% of the time. Remember 1994 when we would score on 3 plays, 72 yard drives that lasted 1:02?
Way better that the 3 play, -1 yard drives that last 1:02 we have been used to since then
I'd like to se a young coach added
I think if we add a young coach for the secondary we’d have a good mix of younger and experienced coaches. Also, for recruiting it might be nice to have a coach with connections to Pittsburgh or New Jersey.
Pissed!
Can’t believe we went another day with no more confirmations. Lame! But hey, at least CNN informed me that JayPa “quit amid scandal”… Thanks, unbiased national media!
by ruxin on Jan 10, 2012 7:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
BOB said seven coaches by Wednesday.
We’re at seven now. The last two will be here eventually. Just nice to have bodies on the ground recruiting.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 10, 2012 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of recruiting, Junny,
that is kind of my yardstick to know how “good” a choice BOB is. If Urbs would have had kids running over each other to sign with us and Roof-as-HC would have had kids stampeding to get away, where is BOB on that recruiting continuum?
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Timeline for GAs?
I know there was talk about Daryll Clark for a GA.
1. Does anyone think this is still a possibility? (I think DC17 would still be willing, but would BoB?
2. What’s the timeline for GAs? (Due to classes, etc.) Obviously the semester has started, but could they still start in the spring or have to wait until the summer term?
Wondering if anyone has ideas and/or answers.
Wonder, wife and I met DC17 over the holidays.
He said he was close to being a GA, but the situation blew it up. Sounded like he really wanted the role.
I’m the small white guy in the picture.
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 10, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
McWhorter
sounds like more of the same bad old stuff, according to our friends at a certain UT blog.
I hope for Penn State’s sake that there are a lot of available high school offensive linemen within a 30 mile radius of State College.
Yup. I can’t imagine he will put much effort into recruiting the “rougher” areas of the Rust Belt and NE. With the Mac hire, Penn State can look forward to OLs consisting of soft, white suburban kids who were PSU locks. PSU better hire a kick ass S&C dude to condition the OL b/c McWhorter doesn’t contribute in that area either
Definitely a short-term hire for PSU. Hilarious that the PSU boards are complimentary of the hire. Dude was basically stealing money from Texas for years.
There’s a lot more here
I like the image of McWhorter being unwilling to go into rough neighborhoods.
“It’s beneath me,” I imagine him thinking.
I'm the XBOX to your Atari.
Shaggybevo? No thanks.
I can’t see how a nine-year coach at a major program like UT, who won a national title while said coach was there, and which coach won Assistant Coach of the Year gets a bad reputation. If he’s not the best recruiter in the world, that’s one thing. But, and without doing much research yet, it seems like sour grapes to me. “He left UT, so fuck him! PSU SUX!”
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2012 6:27 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Texas fans aren't exactly the most rational people.
Glass houses and all that obviously. But Texas and TAMU people I know continue the general “Everything is Texas is amazing” attitude to exclude anything that leaves/doesn’t pertain to them.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
If you read their comments in more detail
they said he used to rule, and then started to coast big-time – became the kind of coach who feels entitled to their job based on past accomplishments.
Ought to ring some uncomfortably familiar bells around here.
Hopefully the Broncos win this week
and O’Brien can get on the road and start doing his job. I think getting rid of Jay was a good call, particularly in light of the horrendous quarterback play we had to endure this year. The acquisition of the Titan’s running backs coach can’t be a bad thing and this Roof guy just won a National Championship. I’ve been giving Cam Newton all the credit for that championship, but the defense had to hold off the fastest and most explosive offense in college football. I think with this coaching staff, Penn State football has a bright future ahead. I wish Bradley could still be around, but I’ve come to accept the fact the BoT is incapable of making a truly sensible and well thought out decision and is only concerned with pandering to the media’s skewed coverage of the Sandusky scandal. All things considered, we’re in a much better situation than I would’ve expected.
by Two Shades of Blue on Jan 10, 2012 10:25 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Ted Roof
was already leaving Auburn for UCF for the same role – which sure seems like a downward move given the two schools.
Him and McWhorter are the two puzzlers here. Most of the rest of BOB’s staff I can give a lot of benefit of the doubt to for youth and energy – but these two guys don’t fit.
yes im quite puzzled as to why guys with National Titles on their resumes
would be hired. So odd. Quite a riddle, actually.
and if you mean Roof
I dont know how you can actually believe that somehow you can win a national championship and go 13-0 with a terrble defense.
DBs Coach
Anyone hearing any names for our defensive secondary coach? Is this the position BOB was referring to when he said “90% filled”?
The 90% was a reference to Roof.
“My first 412 choices for DC turned me down, so I am going with Roof, who is 90% of what I wanted.”
A buddy here at Duke was teasing me about all the Duke coaching retreads being hired by BOB; I responded by saying, “Apparently BOB has been blinded by the glare of football hardware in the Duke trophy case.” Haven’t heard back from him . . . .
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by PSU_Lions_84 on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Getting a ST coach.
Everyone happy now?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
O Rly?
Does that mean we’re getting an OC? I really don’t want BOB to take on HC/QB/OC.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 11, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
I dont like that either
I’d actually prefer he get a QB coach. I dont mind if he wants to give a little extra tutoring to the QB’s in practice, but I want a guy they can go to during games and talk to while BOB is busy being a coach. I still hold out hope for Whipple who could maybe be QB coach/assistant OC. Maybe sit in the booth and point things out to BOB on the sideline while he’s calling plays.
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I thought he said
affirmatively that he will serve as HC/QB coach?
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
McGloin said that, not BOB, that I know of.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
DC17 for graduate assistant
Theres the guy the QBs can talk to on the sidelines
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by psuphysicist on Jan 11, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Thats actually what I would like
DC on the sidelines to help out with QB and O in general. QB’s can talk to to OC/QB coach in the booth, or BOB if he has time. I just dont see how BOB can handle all 3 of HC, OC, and QB coach during a game.
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I don't either.
There is one spot left, with OC, QB, and ST not addressed. I can see BOB doing HC/QB, but not HC/OC, but who knows.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ted Roof certainly does not deserve a raise yet
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And just like that, it appears he'll JUST be DB coach.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
BOB,
great PSU fanbase troll, or greatest PSU fanbase troll?
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 11, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2012 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Some schools have one coach as a "ST Coordinator"
who oversees other coaches who have individual unit responsibilities. That might be where it is headed.
In the end, I’ve rarely seen anyone reorganize themselves into success. It comes down to how much priority and effort is dedicated. Any structure for handling ST’s can work if it is considered important enough.
Does anyone know if Jim Bernhart counts towards our NCAA limit?
If he does, wouldn’t that mean BOB’s staff is full?
Any rumors swirling about Ralph Freidgen as OC?
I know I heard it a few days ago but havn’t seen anything since.
Saw this in an article talking about Ralph and his tenure at MD.
“I asked him what people around MD thought of Ralphie. He just had dinner with his friend in the MD AD dept. She has been a longtime higher level employee in the MD AD dept. When Ralph came in, everyone loved him. He was a dynamo. After a few yrs, with his weight gain he bacame very self-concious and maybe early success tempered his enthusiasm. He became embarassed to sit on a plane(couldn’t fit in a seat) and in people’s living rooms. Went into a hibernation mode and didn’t recruit. MD fell off the winning tract. He finished with a winning yr, so people down in MD are still fond of him. Randy Edsell is a complete and total a-hole. Blames everybody for everything negative/losing. Not well liked and will most likely have a short tenure as a result
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2012 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Someone should tell BTN
Since I heard they listed him as our OC last night.
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Most likely.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Jan 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Final coach added - George Godsey, Patriots QB coach.
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I'm very confused.
BOB is OC/QB coach. Last time I checked. Which was very recently. Godsey is the “offensive assistant” equivalent of BOB when he came to the team. Review the gameplan, make sure the players on the sideline know their assignments, when they’re going in and out etc.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 11, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Still trying to confirm the exact positions held by Butler and Godsey.
Butler will likely take special teams as well, and between BOB and Godsey, OC and QB will be covered.
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Why would Godsey leave the Pats?
is his contract up, does Penn State pay better than New England?
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by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 11, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
If McDaniels resumes
as OC/QB coach, Godsey will still be “offensive assistant”. I’m guessing QB coach at PSU is a resume upgrade.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 11, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Are you in Boston right now??? going off your name
How are New England fans reacting to their assistant coaches all coming to this “toxic” program?
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by Dr.TobiasFunke on Jan 11, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Iiterally haven't heard about it once since Saturday.
There is some excitement that McDaniels is back interestingly enough. Because, hey, you have the chance to get the guy who coordinated the league’s 32nd best offense this year you have to jump on it.
Maybe it’s because we have a lot of experience losing assistant coaches, but the general consensus is, “Hey, Good luck! See ya later.”
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 11, 2012 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Another factor in it being a non-story here
is probably all the Tebow talk.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 11, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing I've heard
is that New Englanders don’t care because they still have Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.
Plus,
if BOB is bringing the Patriots culture to the coaching staff, then QB coach is pretty much next in line to be OC if one is needed. So if BOB is taking the OC duties, he may have told Godsey once he learns enough he’ll get the title.
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by PSUinBOSSton on Jan 11, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Is having the patriots culture a good thing?
I know they win a lot but it’s mostly offense.
Patriots culture a good thing?
If history is an indicator I would say no. I can’t think of one patriot coach that has been successful post patriots. We need some Penn State guys in there besides LJ and RV.
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