Introduction and an epiphany of sorts
I've been lurking amongst all of you for a few months now and really only started commenting a few weeks ago. I graduated in December of 2000 with a more or less useless degree in Administration of Justice and followed that with a completely useless MS in Criminal Justice from the U of Cincinnati a few years later. I now sell Tractors for a living after having run a few well known Big Box retail chain stores (I got my start at one of them in the electronics department on N. Atherton St, right next to Champs). I have always been proud of my Penn State roots, and prouder still of the values entrenched in them. However, after graduation, I never really felt a part of the family any longer. Life did what life does and took me in many different directions. I've settled back where I grew up, in Bradford County, and have never been happier.
Which brings me to my second, albeit more important point. I had strayed from the family that is Penn State. We like to say "We Are Penn State". However, there are thousands of Alumni out there like myself, slowly forgetting what it means to be a part of that family. This may have been rehashed in other fan posts, but I find myself struggling to find time to read them all, so forgive my redundancy. I think the final gift Joe bestowed upon us was drawing so many of us back into the fold. I've seen just in the last few months several new people on the boards. I've seen more blue and white around me than in quite a long time. I've become far more congisant of the solidarity we feel as fellow alumni and for that I'm grateful. Joe's passing and the tragic events of the past few months have brought us together like I've never seen. Everyone has suffered, none more so than the victims of that alleged monster Jerry Sandusky. For those of us that seem caught up in everything bad that has happened, I think we should begin focusing on the good that can come of it all. We Are Penn State, but we can also be an engine of change.
One final note: I apologize if this is disjointed and barely coherent. I've had this up on screen for half the morning, working on it between phone calls and customers.
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Coherent or not, I like it.
Bradford County, you say? I grew up in Mansfield, myself.
Unrepentant Joe Paterno Apologist®
Towanda now,
but grew up in Wyalusing. Home of….really absolutely nothing.
Tell me the truth
It snows in Bradford in August, doesn’t it?
by reedjohnmiller on Feb 2, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
the town, yes, i think.
i never visited there in august. the county? not so much.
Hail, fellow ridge-runners!
Grew up in Ralston, went to HS in Canton.
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
just a hop skip and long jump up route 6
though now its mostly filled with brine tankers and tri axle dump trucks. but the marcellus shale formation and exploitation is a conversation for another day.
Route 6 was the first public road I ever drove on (legally, anyway).
I have seen both the east end (Cape Cod) and the west end (Bishop California), and have crossed its bridge over the Mississippi (from Rock Island, Illinois to Davenport, Iowa, piggybacked on I-74) on several occasions. For the first 31 years of my life, my legal address was never more than 15 miles from either US 6 or US 15, even though I lived in four different states during that time. When I lived in Iowa, my daily commute was roughly 14 miles, 13 of which was on US 6.
Jtot – I hope you’re listening. This is story time for today.
Unrepentant Joe Paterno Apologist®
My work e-mail is in my profile, if
any of you want to walk down memory lane.
I’m older than you guys — 53 — but still think of that area as “home”. Mom still lives in Trout Run; we get up there 3-5 times a year — not often enough!
"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.
"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."
I have that same useless degree in Administration of Justice.
I was ahead of everybody in my class in Criminal Law in law school in for about 5 minutes. They literally cover all of the law you need to know to be a police officer in the first five minutes of law school. That is an actual fact.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
i seriously considered law school
but despite my penchant for arguing, i’m told its more about pushing paper. Add to that the amount of debt I’ve already accumulated for my education and the option is out the window. Besides, It’s already time for me to worry about my fifteen year old and what we’re gonna do about his education. Ahhh……well, the degree looks good on the wall in my office anyway.
Mifflin County
Why I admit to this god help me I don’t know.
Publicity is like poison; it doesn't hurt unless you swallow it.
Joe Paterno
You are truly salt of the earth
(The selling tractors bit). Although my wife would call you an enabler! Ag, L&G, Construction, or ‘Baby likes to Rock it’ tractors?
Alea iacta est...
by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 12:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Kubota mostly, but
I’m also full line Bobcat, Doosan Heavy and Industrial Power and Air, among other things. Big Boy toys and loving every minute of it. Best perk is the whole “bring it home for free to try it out” thing i get to do.
by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice perk.
I’m toying with getting a BX2360 this year (If they are still offering 0%). Might be too tempting to pass up.
Alea iacta est...
by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wait till second quarter
right now the promo is 0% for 48 months, it should go back up to 60 months in march, just in time for spring buying. Just be pretpared, kubota requires insurance to cover it if they finance it (like a car). you can get it through kubota on a bx2360 for about twelve bucks a month as part of your payment or you can go through your own company. the 2360 is a great little machine though, i’ve got a bx24 at home which is mostly the same thing.
by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was planning on buying mid season anyway
The idea being that the warranty would stretch into a subsequent mowing season instead of ending just before…
Alea iacta est...
by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
in all honesty
the warranty probably won’t be an issue. we rarely get problems with those tractors. ask me the same question about the simplicity line we sell and you’ll get a different story.
by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not as good as they used to be?
I have a Simplicity 9020 that I would dearly love to do a complete resto on. Quite a beast.
Alea iacta est...
by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they were bought out a few years ago by briggs and stratton
still a decent tractor but most definitely not what they used to be. Now just riding on the coat tails of reputation.
by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unfortunate, but commonplace
Seems like most of the high quality L&G brands have been gobbled up by the big ‘generics’. It was a sad day when Wheel Horse became a part of MTD.
Alea iacta est...
by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed
Not many manufacturers do all their own stuff anymore. John Deere isn’t even their own. They have others making a large portion of their stuff. New Holland is now Fiat (as well as Case IH i believe). Just a big cluster
by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In my humble opinion
Winning threads like this about tractors kick the shit out of the poohey threads all day long.
jtothetweet
"I’m not a from the hip guy," Brands said. "From the hip, gets you in trouble. We continually evolve, and you have to have that mindset.
by jtothep on Feb 2, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The doomsday scenario
is the endgame of everything coming from the gigantic industrial conglomerates in China.
Alea iacta est...
Oddly enough
One summer I built hay bailers for New Holland…
All of our comments are irrelevant - LetsGoPSU
Growing up in New Holland
I know a little bit about tractors. Well, not really, but I did see a lot of them + my Dad worked at New Holland for 40 years.
"If there’s a villain in this tragedy. It lies in that investigation, not in Joe Paterno’s response to it," ~ Phil Knight
Is he in the running for the Board of Trustees?
by Pentimental on Feb 2, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Can't.
I can’t remember where it was exactly that he went to school (Syracuse, I think) but he definitely has not standing to run for BOT.
Unrepentant Joe Paterno Apologist®
I just filled one of those up this morning.
Literally tossed the bullshit at my father-in-law’s barn. Wheeled wheelbarrow load after load up a plank and dumped them in a New Holland spreader until it was full.
Believe it or not I actually enjoy doing it. I get more of a sense of accomplishment from that (and other farm type work I occasionally help out with) than I ever do at my office job or my second job. Today my son helped for the first time. Once I married into a farming family it’s become my firm belief that everybody at some point in their life should engage in some type of farm work (probably putting up hay would be the best – “make hay while the sun shines” is not just a saying, it’s the truth).
Agreed. Every kid should
spend the first ‘teenage’ summer on a working farm. The summer I spent on my grandparents farm left a lasting impression. Lets see: Work hard from can see to can’t see, eat hearty, sleep well…..yeah, that about sums it up. Pale, minimal muscles and no work ethic going in. Tanned, muscled, and familiar with real work coming out.
Alea iacta est...
Back then, I thought
the Ford tractor that actually had a starter was the shit. The Farmall with the magneto ignition was a pain in the rear. What are lights?
Alea iacta est...
One thing I learned as a 12 year-old on my grandfather's farm
was to pay attention on the bale wagon. A square bale of hay launched onto the wagon will hit you harder than Navarro Bowman. My cousin got a kick out of seeing me get wiped out.
The first day of baling
I started out driving the tractor. At lunchtime, I drove the entire crew to the house on the wagon. Unfortunately, I released the clutch before the engine stopped, just as everyone was standing on the wagon ready to hop off. After knocking everybody on their fannies, I was relegated to the wagon stacking/bale throwing crew for the rest of the summer.
Alea iacta est...
Almost as good as dumping a load & crew when driving over a ground hog hole/mound.
(Those were days of hand-loading and no sides on wagon.)
I don't know if the more modern farms
were using bale throwers by the early 70’s, but my grandparents farm was a technology laggard. A 1949 Farmall, a 1959 Ford, converted horse drawn rake and tedder. Hand picked and stacked bale collection. I will admit, they had a bale elevator to lift the hay to the loft, WooHoo!
Alea iacta est...
I worked at New Holland (and the various other name permutations)
for ten years (1988 – 1998). Was your Dad there during that time, rah?
We are Penn State.
I still have friends from my branch campus days.
And you’re posting from work, damn lazy, unproductive, American worker that you are. Unless you’re posting at lunch, then it’s of course OK . . .
I've been downhearted baby, I've been downhearted baby, ever since the day we met . . .
nope
mostly just lazy, unproductive american worker. don’t forget overpaid for what i do.
Fuck that.
I just got a bill from the state for $460 for the privilege maintaining my business’ registration as an LLC. Mind you that’s not the registration fee, that was $120. And it’s not a tax on my earnings. It is a $460 fee for maintaining my registration as an LLC.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
Hey, those registrations aren't going to maintain themselves
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
I'm writing my Congressman...
…and possibly Mitt Romney livid. I can’t listen to one more damned politician tell me they care about small business and jobs when I hustled my ass for a year to stay off unemployment so those soul-sucking bastards can send me a bill for $460 to simply continue to be a Limited Liability Corporation.
I don’t make a ton of money. I was not expecting that bill and it hurt. I’m really upset about it.
...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...
I don't blame you, man
Not to get specifically political, but generally people will get worked up over a potential .01% tax increase (or refusal to renew a .05% tax break) and literally determine their entire vote on that premise, meanwhile there is shit like that and other hidden costs for small businesses and licenses of many professions that have a much greater effect on a fellow or lady’s bottom line. I mean…$460 is more than just a small fee for any company producing less than like $500k.
"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.
And the political hacks are
well aware of that concern. Nobody wants to raise taxes and be the bad buy, but revenue to pay for all the special projects has to come from somewhere. Fees are so much easier to slippery by.
"If there’s a villain in this tragedy. It lies in that investigation, not in Joe Paterno’s response to it," ~ Phil Knight
Newsflash...
ANY money that goes to ANY level of government is a tax. They can use whatever euphemism they want, but it’s still a tax.
Driver’s, fishing, hunting, etc. “license” – that’s a tax.
Vehicle “registration” – that’s a tax.
Speeding “ticket” – that’s a tax.
Parking meter “fee” – that’s a tax.
Infrastructure “investment” – that’s a tax.
“Paddling the school canoe…oh, you better believe that’s a paddling.”
by J Breezy on Feb 4, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Except not according to the courts.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012
I've always said the three biggest mistakes people make are....
…thinking that politicians, union leaders, and upper management care about them.
We recently moved to DE.
Their vehicle registration fees are not that out of line compared to the rest of the world, albeit they are all ridiculous (and why you have to register anything more than one time until it transfers ownership, I’ll never understand).
The rub is that they force you to re-title your car in order to register it in the state. That’s the rule regardless of the age of the vehicle, the fact that it remained in her own name, and that we were moving from a state with some of the highest sales tax to DE which has no sales tax (i.e., we did not title in another state to avoid paying DE money). The “document fee” for re-titling is 3.75% of the value of the vehicle. So, I can’t remember exactly what her fee was, but it was definitely in excess of $400 just to be able to then pay the registration fee on top of it. If she had bought a new car a few months before we left, that fee could easily have extended into the thousands.
I’m not sure what it’s like in most states since we’ve not had to transfer states before, but I can say without hesitation that, even if it is the norm, that is absolutely ridiculous. She owns the car. She had a document proving that already. A document she paid a lot of money for. And, why in the hell does the re-sale value of the vehicle dictate what a title costs? Is your title printed on fancier paper if you drive a Bugatti vs. a Ford Focus? Does that record cost more to maintain?
It’s a real shit sandwich when you end up getting blind sided by big fees you weren’t expecting and that you can’t understand any rational need for. Every April I know I’m going to have to give my hard-earned money to Uncle Sam. I’m prepared for that and I have some ideas about how that money is spent. But >$400 on top of the thousands we paid to move had my girlfriend literally in tears… and has made it that much more difficult to convince her that moving to DE was actually a good idea (even though we’re about 700 miles closer to where we want to be than we were last year).

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