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Introduction and an epiphany of sorts


I've been lurking amongst all of you for a few months now and really only started commenting a few weeks ago. I graduated in December of 2000 with a more or less useless degree in Administration of Justice and followed that with a completely useless MS in Criminal Justice from the U of Cincinnati a few years later. I now sell Tractors for a living after having run a few well known Big Box retail chain stores (I got my start at one of them in the electronics department on N. Atherton St, right next to Champs). I have always been proud of my Penn State roots, and prouder still of the values entrenched in them. However, after graduation, I never really felt a part of the family any longer. Life did what life does and took me in many different directions. I've settled back where I grew up, in Bradford County, and have never been happier.

Which brings me to my second, albeit more important point. I had strayed from the family that is Penn State. We like to say "We Are Penn State". However, there are thousands of Alumni out there like myself, slowly forgetting what it means to be a part of that family. This may have been rehashed in other fan posts, but I find myself struggling to find time to read them all, so forgive my redundancy. I think the final gift Joe bestowed upon us was drawing so many of us back into the fold. I've seen just in the last few months several new people on the boards. I've seen more blue and white around me than in quite a long time. I've become far more congisant of the solidarity we feel as fellow alumni and for that I'm grateful. Joe's passing and the tragic events of the past few months have brought us together like I've never seen. Everyone has suffered, none more so than the victims of that alleged monster Jerry Sandusky. For those of us that seem caught up in everything bad that has happened, I think we should begin focusing on the good that can come of it all. We Are Penn State, but we can also be an engine of change.

One final note: I apologize if this is disjointed and barely coherent. I've had this up on screen for half the morning, working on it between phone calls and customers.

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Coherent or not, I like it.

Bradford County, you say? I grew up in Mansfield, myself.

Unrepentant Joe Paterno Apologist®

by leeharvey418 on Feb 2, 2012 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Towanda now,

but grew up in Wyalusing. Home of….really absolutely nothing.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Tell me the truth

It snows in Bradford in August, doesn’t it?

by reedjohnmiller on Feb 2, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

the town, yes, i think.

i never visited there in august. the county? not so much.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Hail, fellow ridge-runners!

Grew up in Ralston, went to HS in Canton.

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Feb 2, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

just a hop skip and long jump up route 6

though now its mostly filled with brine tankers and tri axle dump trucks. but the marcellus shale formation and exploitation is a conversation for another day.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Route 6 was the first public road I ever drove on (legally, anyway).

I have seen both the east end (Cape Cod) and the west end (Bishop California), and have crossed its bridge over the Mississippi (from Rock Island, Illinois to Davenport, Iowa, piggybacked on I-74) on several occasions. For the first 31 years of my life, my legal address was never more than 15 miles from either US 6 or US 15, even though I lived in four different states during that time. When I lived in Iowa, my daily commute was roughly 14 miles, 13 of which was on US 6.

Jtot – I hope you’re listening. This is story time for today.

Unrepentant Joe Paterno Apologist®

by leeharvey418 on Feb 2, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

My work e-mail is in my profile, if

any of you want to walk down memory lane.

I’m older than you guys — 53 — but still think of that area as “home”. Mom still lives in Trout Run; we get up there 3-5 times a year — not often enough!

"Make haste to reassure us, I beg you, and tell us that our fellow citizens understand us, support us, and protect us as we ourselves are protecting the glory of the Empire.

"If it should be otherwise, if we should have to leave our bleached bones on these desert sands in vain, then beware the fury of the Legions."

by PSU_Lions_84 on Feb 2, 2012 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I have that same useless degree in Administration of Justice.

I was ahead of everybody in my class in Criminal Law in law school in for about 5 minutes. They literally cover all of the law you need to know to be a police officer in the first five minutes of law school. That is an actual fact.

...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...

by jesse. on Feb 2, 2012 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

i seriously considered law school

but despite my penchant for arguing, i’m told its more about pushing paper. Add to that the amount of debt I’ve already accumulated for my education and the option is out the window. Besides, It’s already time for me to worry about my fifteen year old and what we’re gonna do about his education. Ahhh……well, the degree looks good on the wall in my office anyway.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Mifflin County

Why I admit to this god help me I don’t know.

Publicity is like poison; it doesn't hurt unless you swallow it.
Joe Paterno

by Modanya on Feb 2, 2012 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Me too

Lewistown HS or Chief Logan/Kish/Indian Valley HS?

"Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin

by spigmana on Feb 10, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

You are truly salt of the earth

(The selling tractors bit). Although my wife would call you an enabler! Ag, L&G, Construction, or ‘Baby likes to Rock it’ tractors?

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 12:10 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Kubota mostly, but

I’m also full line Bobcat, Doosan Heavy and Industrial Power and Air, among other things. Big Boy toys and loving every minute of it. Best perk is the whole “bring it home for free to try it out” thing i get to do.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Nice perk.

I’m toying with getting a BX2360 this year (If they are still offering 0%). Might be too tempting to pass up.

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

wait till second quarter

right now the promo is 0% for 48 months, it should go back up to 60 months in march, just in time for spring buying. Just be pretpared, kubota requires insurance to cover it if they finance it (like a car). you can get it through kubota on a bx2360 for about twelve bucks a month as part of your payment or you can go through your own company. the 2360 is a great little machine though, i’ve got a bx24 at home which is mostly the same thing.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I was planning on buying mid season anyway

The idea being that the warranty would stretch into a subsequent mowing season instead of ending just before…

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

in all honesty

the warranty probably won’t be an issue. we rarely get problems with those tractors. ask me the same question about the simplicity line we sell and you’ll get a different story.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not as good as they used to be?

I have a Simplicity 9020 that I would dearly love to do a complete resto on. Quite a beast.

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

they were bought out a few years ago by briggs and stratton

still a decent tractor but most definitely not what they used to be. Now just riding on the coat tails of reputation.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Unfortunate, but commonplace

Seems like most of the high quality L&G brands have been gobbled up by the big ‘generics’. It was a sad day when Wheel Horse became a part of MTD.

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

agreed

Not many manufacturers do all their own stuff anymore. John Deere isn’t even their own. They have others making a large portion of their stuff. New Holland is now Fiat (as well as Case IH i believe). Just a big cluster

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

In my humble opinion

Winning threads like this about tractors kick the shit out of the poohey threads all day long.

jtothetweet
"I’m not a from the hip guy," Brands said. "From the hip, gets you in trouble. We continually evolve, and you have to have that mindset.

by jtothep on Feb 2, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The doomsday scenario

is the endgame of everything coming from the gigantic industrial conglomerates in China.

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 2, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Oddly enough

One summer I built hay bailers for New Holland…

All of our comments are irrelevant - LetsGoPSU

by jaytay13 on Feb 2, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Growing up in New Holland

I know a little bit about tractors. Well, not really, but I did see a lot of them + my Dad worked at New Holland for 40 years.

"If there’s a villain in this tragedy. It lies in that investigation, not in Joe Paterno’s response to it," ~ Phil Knight

by rahpsu92 on Feb 2, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

My uncle worked at New Holland.

Designed manure spreaders.

Unrepentant Joe Paterno Apologist®

by leeharvey418 on Feb 2, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't.

I can’t remember where it was exactly that he went to school (Syracuse, I think) but he definitely has not standing to run for BOT.

Unrepentant Joe Paterno Apologist®

by leeharvey418 on Feb 2, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

that was the fastest

I’ve ever rec’d a comment

"my dad says Michigan used to be good"

by hbeach08 on Feb 2, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I just filled one of those up this morning.

Literally tossed the bullshit at my father-in-law’s barn. Wheeled wheelbarrow load after load up a plank and dumped them in a New Holland spreader until it was full.

Believe it or not I actually enjoy doing it. I get more of a sense of accomplishment from that (and other farm type work I occasionally help out with) than I ever do at my office job or my second job. Today my son helped for the first time. Once I married into a farming family it’s become my firm belief that everybody at some point in their life should engage in some type of farm work (probably putting up hay would be the best – “make hay while the sun shines” is not just a saying, it’s the truth).

by J Breezy on Feb 4, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Every kid should

spend the first ‘teenage’ summer on a working farm. The summer I spent on my grandparents farm left a lasting impression. Lets see: Work hard from can see to can’t see, eat hearty, sleep well…..yeah, that about sums it up. Pale, minimal muscles and no work ethic going in. Tanned, muscled, and familiar with real work coming out.

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 4, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Back then, I thought

the Ford tractor that actually had a starter was the shit. The Farmall with the magneto ignition was a pain in the rear. What are lights?

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 7, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

One thing I learned as a 12 year-old on my grandfather's farm

was to pay attention on the bale wagon. A square bale of hay launched onto the wagon will hit you harder than Navarro Bowman. My cousin got a kick out of seeing me get wiped out.

by CvilleLion on Feb 7, 2012 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The first day of baling

I started out driving the tractor. At lunchtime, I drove the entire crew to the house on the wagon. Unfortunately, I released the clutch before the engine stopped, just as everyone was standing on the wagon ready to hop off. After knocking everybody on their fannies, I was relegated to the wagon stacking/bale throwing crew for the rest of the summer.

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 7, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know if the more modern farms

were using bale throwers by the early 70’s, but my grandparents farm was a technology laggard. A 1949 Farmall, a 1959 Ford, converted horse drawn rake and tedder. Hand picked and stacked bale collection. I will admit, they had a bale elevator to lift the hay to the loft, WooHoo!

Alea iacta est...

by PSUGuru on Feb 7, 2012 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I built em one summer break...

All of our comments are irrelevant - LetsGoPSU

by jaytay13 on Feb 8, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I worked at New Holland (and the various other name permutations)

for ten years (1988 – 1998). Was your Dad there during that time, rah?

by CvilleLion on Feb 7, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions  

We are Penn State.

I still have friends from my branch campus days.

And you’re posting from work, damn lazy, unproductive, American worker that you are. Unless you’re posting at lunch, then it’s of course OK . . .

I've been downhearted baby, I've been downhearted baby, ever since the day we met . . .

by Joe 96alum on Feb 2, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

nope

mostly just lazy, unproductive american worker. don’t forget overpaid for what i do.

by smh244 on Feb 2, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Fuck that.

I just got a bill from the state for $460 for the privilege maintaining my business’ registration as an LLC. Mind you that’s not the registration fee, that was $120. And it’s not a tax on my earnings. It is a $460 fee for maintaining my registration as an LLC.

...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...

by jesse. on Feb 2, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, those registrations aren't going to maintain themselves

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Feb 2, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm writing my Congressman...

…and possibly Mitt Romney livid. I can’t listen to one more damned politician tell me they care about small business and jobs when I hustled my ass for a year to stay off unemployment so those soul-sucking bastards can send me a bill for $460 to simply continue to be a Limited Liability Corporation.

I don’t make a ton of money. I was not expecting that bill and it hurt. I’m really upset about it.

...may we compete with fierce intensity, with the gifts that we have been given...

by jesse. on Feb 2, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't blame you, man

Not to get specifically political, but generally people will get worked up over a potential .01% tax increase (or refusal to renew a .05% tax break) and literally determine their entire vote on that premise, meanwhile there is shit like that and other hidden costs for small businesses and licenses of many professions that have a much greater effect on a fellow or lady’s bottom line. I mean…$460 is more than just a small fee for any company producing less than like $500k.

"We gon' get down. We gon' do the do. I'm going to hit these mother****ers" - Dock Ellis, May 1, 1974.

by OctaShields on Feb 2, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

And the political hacks are

well aware of that concern. Nobody wants to raise taxes and be the bad buy, but revenue to pay for all the special projects has to come from somewhere. Fees are so much easier to slippery by.

"If there’s a villain in this tragedy. It lies in that investigation, not in Joe Paterno’s response to it," ~ Phil Knight

by rahpsu92 on Feb 3, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Newsflash...

ANY money that goes to ANY level of government is a tax. They can use whatever euphemism they want, but it’s still a tax.

Driver’s, fishing, hunting, etc. “license” – that’s a tax.

Vehicle “registration” – that’s a tax.

Speeding “ticket” – that’s a tax.

Parking meter “fee” – that’s a tax.

Infrastructure “investment” – that’s a tax.

“Paddling the school canoe…oh, you better believe that’s a paddling.”

by J Breezy on Feb 4, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Except not according to the courts.

"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012

by Paige2PSU on Feb 8, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I've always said the three biggest mistakes people make are....

…thinking that politicians, union leaders, and upper management care about them.

by J Breezy on Feb 4, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

We recently moved to DE.

Their vehicle registration fees are not that out of line compared to the rest of the world, albeit they are all ridiculous (and why you have to register anything more than one time until it transfers ownership, I’ll never understand).

The rub is that they force you to re-title your car in order to register it in the state. That’s the rule regardless of the age of the vehicle, the fact that it remained in her own name, and that we were moving from a state with some of the highest sales tax to DE which has no sales tax (i.e., we did not title in another state to avoid paying DE money). The “document fee” for re-titling is 3.75% of the value of the vehicle. So, I can’t remember exactly what her fee was, but it was definitely in excess of $400 just to be able to then pay the registration fee on top of it. If she had bought a new car a few months before we left, that fee could easily have extended into the thousands.

I’m not sure what it’s like in most states since we’ve not had to transfer states before, but I can say without hesitation that, even if it is the norm, that is absolutely ridiculous. She owns the car. She had a document proving that already. A document she paid a lot of money for. And, why in the hell does the re-sale value of the vehicle dictate what a title costs? Is your title printed on fancier paper if you drive a Bugatti vs. a Ford Focus? Does that record cost more to maintain?

It’s a real shit sandwich when you end up getting blind sided by big fees you weren’t expecting and that you can’t understand any rational need for. Every April I know I’m going to have to give my hard-earned money to Uncle Sam. I’m prepared for that and I have some ideas about how that money is spent. But >$400 on top of the thousands we paid to move had my girlfriend literally in tears… and has made it that much more difficult to convince her that moving to DE was actually a good idea (even though we’re about 700 miles closer to where we want to be than we were last year).

by BNittsDeMilo on Feb 7, 2012 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

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