Inside The Bloggers Unwashed, Unshaven, Studio: Iowa Hoops Edition
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Apologies for getting this up so close to game time, but it was too good not to get up. RossWB over at Black Heart Gold Pants was kind enough to participate in the latest installment of ITBUUS, for today's clash between Penn State and Iowa.
BSD: Year 2 of Frandemonium (i.e. Iowa Coach Fran McCaffrey) has the Hawkeyes flirting with a .500 record in Big Ten play halfway through the conference schedule. Has this met or exceeded Iowa fans' expectations? What has been the key to Iowa's turnaround thus far?
RossWB: The non-conference schedule didn't quite meet expectations. Given that Iowa had such a weak slate of non-conference opponents, not many people really expected them to lose 5 games before B1G play (especially to the likes of Campbell). Conversely, not many people expected them to be 4-6 at this point in the B1G season, either. The home loss to Nebraska a week ago was disappointing and the blowout nature of the losses to Ohio State, Michigan State, and Indiana was disappointing, but there have been some great wins, too, like dominating a good Michigan team, sweeping Minnesota, and beating Wisconsin in the impregnable Kohl Center. So things have been pretty rocky, but in general I'd say things are trending slightly ahead of expectations, especially given the strength of the league.
The biggest reason for Iowa's turnaround has been the breakout play of Roy Devyn Marble and Aaron White. Matt Gatens has been a steady performer for most of the season, but Marble has really started to emerge as a very good player. He's second on the team in points (11.4) and assists (3.3) and he's displayed a really impressive knack for making clutch plays: he made key jumpers to preserve the win at Wisconsin and came up big in the win over Minnesota the other night, too. White has so far managed to avoid the freshman wall and he's third on the team in points (9.7) and rebounds (3.8). They've really given Iowa a big spark.
BSD: Speaking of Fran: Anger issues aside, the guy sure knows how to pile-drive a chair (see video above). Tell us how much the idea of him and Bob Knight in a chair-throwing contest on BTN announced by Gus Johnson excites you.
RossWB: On a scale of 1-10, my excitement for that idea is a solid 11, especially since I think Fran would crush Knight. Chair-throwing is a young man's game and Bobby's gotten old and soft at ESPN. Fran would try to launch a chair into orbit.
BSD: What does the future hold for Hawkeye basketball? Are there any big-time recruits on their way to Iowa City?
RossWB: The future is looking very good for Iowa basketball for the first time in quite a while. They have a top 20 class coming in next year, highlighted by a pair of local stars who are both ESPN 100 recruits. Adam Woodbury is a 4* C who should be a godsend for a team that currently has a gaping hole in the post and Mike Gesell is a 4* PG who should take control of the offense. They also have a pair of unheralded backcourt recruits Patrick Ingram and Anthony Clemmons) who should provide a much-needed injection of athleticism. Couple that class with the continued development of guys like Marble and White and you have the makings of a very promising team.
BSD: Name one thing that PSU fans should fear about this Iowa team. Also, name one thing about PSU that you feel Iowa fans should fear.
RossWB: This Iowa team is so inconsistent that it's hard to know what opposing fans should really fear about them... but I'd probably say their transition game. They might have the best transition offense of any team in the Big Ten and they love to run and push the tempo; if Penn State finds themselves in a track meet tomorrow, that's probably playing right into Iowa's hands. As for what Iowa fans should fear... I think the obvious answer is Tim Frazier because he's by far PSU's best player (team leader in points, rebounds, assists, and steals) and someone that Iowa will have a hard time slowing down (especially since one of our best defenders, Eric May, has been battling back problems lately). But I'm also concerned about PSU's rebounding; it's one of the few things they appear to be not-awful at and also an area where Iowa has struggled mightily at times this year. If Iowa can't keep PSU off the glass, PSU could get enough second chance opportunities to keep things tight.
BSD: Last but not least, give us your take on how you see this Saturday's contest playing out.
RossWB: It's so hard to make a prediction in this game because this Iowa team has been so schizophrenic. They can look breathtakingly good at times and stupefyingly bad at other times -- and sometimes in the same game (like, for instance, the Minnesota win the other night, where they paired a decent beginning and a brilliant ending with a wretched middle. And after they lost at home to Nebraska last week, my faith in them beating "bad" teams at home has been shaken. So I'm really not sure: If they play poor defense and given Penn State opportunities (and, more importantly, if Penn State is able to take advantage of those opportunities and drain the open looks they'll no doubt have), PSU can absolutely steal this game. But I think Iowa builds off the momentum of their late rally against Minnesota (and the excitement over the celebrations for the 1986-1987 team, an Elite Eight team that's being honored at the game Saturday) to get a second-straight win. I think they come out hot and open up a lead, then go cold and let Penn State make things interesting, before finally pulling away in the second half and winning by 8-10 points. I'll go with Iowa 68, Penn State 60, with Roy Marble leading the way with a very strong all-around game.
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Wow...Oliver is in there
Hope they take it easy with him in minutes.
Some infections are keeping me from canning
And I consoled myself by thinking that I’d at least get to watch the game. Turns out we get 3 channels playing figure skating, 2 playing dog shows, and none with Penn State basketball. Fantastic.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
by dwf5095 on Feb 4, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't get ESPNU either
But am watching it on ESPN3.com if you can get that.
by mundyscorner99 on Feb 4, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
You're a savior!
I seriously considered the figure skating for a second.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
by dwf5095 on Feb 4, 2012 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is getting ugly early
We need to find a second scorer…fast!
I'm not that knowledgeable about basketball
But seriously, 4 fouls and 2 points? 1/7 shooting for 6 minutes? We are to basketball what Indiana is to football. It can’t just be a down year for recruiting, because there are dozens of smaller schools that play competitive basketball by just having one or two good shooters. We seriously have zero?
I feel like a broken record sometimes...
1. Coaching transition
a. They had to learn a new system
b. None of these guys are Pat’s guys, therefore they don’t fit well with the new system
2. Talor Battle graduated
3. 1 starter from last year is still in the lineup
I'm not down on Chambers at all, I have a lot of hope for his recruiting/system raising our quality long term
But I can’t help but wonder about the current team’s morale/concentration when I watch individual performances out there. If we lost games because not enough possessions resulted in good shots, because they’re using a system they’re not comfortable with/good at, that’s one thing. Watching guys get perfectly good looks and NEVER scoring? That has nothing to do with the system.
In ANY system, the object is to put the ball in the basket
And this team doesn’t have the shooters to do so.
by mundyscorner99 on Feb 4, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
You could even say Frazier isn’t a shooter. There is a reason why Frazier is currently 11th in the NATION in assists per game. Remember also, Penn State has no one to help him out. Imagine what his assists total would be if he did.
Frazier, like Battle, is a scorer.
He’s definitely not a shooter, although he’s much more confident in his jumper than he was last year. He’s a better passer than Battle, but Battle was a better/more consistent scoring threat.
Frazier needs some help. He’s got to be exhausted at this point in the year.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Wasn't there a Battle quote from 2009
talking about how tired he was a the middle of the season? I remember seeing that on a fanshot.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
He needs the HIT conditioning program to gain stamina
Chambers’ future teams will be forced to use an Olympic program, so they will be the best team in the country for the first five minutes of game time, then too tired to play anymore.
That could work.
They could build an 80-100 point lead in the first five minutes, rest for a bit, and then come back and score maybe 10 more to close it out.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Ever see the Futurama episode with the mutans vs the Harlem Globetrotters?
We’re up 45 points with under a minute left? How could me going in possibly make us lose? /time warp – they lose by like 200 points
Frazier heard me dissing him and ripped that ball out under the basket
Then like you said, fed it perfectly to a wide open shooter for another brick
I'd like to see Eric do a "what could have been" post on the players that are no longer with the team
Having guys like Chris Babb, Bill Edwards, and Taran Buie would make this team a helluva lot better. Transfers sometimes do happen and it’s a shame that this team has been really hit hard by them.
by mundyscorner99 on Feb 4, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
A thousand times this.
They still wouldn’t be “good,” but they would be competent.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
How many guys are straight up walk ons?
Like not transfers in from other schools. I mean guys who were students at PSU who just walked into the BJC and put on a jersey.
If the answer is a number greater than zero, I will completely stop complaining and just be happy we have enough guys to fill the chairs on the floor.
Nick Colella played at a branch campus for two years and walked on.
So it’s definitely above zero.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Dammit, a good friend of mine played at Altoona, transferred to UP and stopped playing
But went to a walk on try out one offseason. They didn’t take any walkons but they told him he’d be the guy if they did.
He’d be on the team this year. Terrible or not that would have been so freakin awesome to watch.
Who was coaching then?
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
That was like '04, DeChellis I guess?
I followed basketball even less when I was in college than I do now
I'm surprised because I remember the mass transfers between the Dunn and DeChellis eras
Felt like we were fielding a team of walk-ons….and Geary Claxton.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Speaking of, he's got 5 points tonight.
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#OccupyESPN
I'd agree with that
I think every team in the league is beatable. If PSU could’ve done anything offensively they would’ve been Wisconsin the other night. The Big Ten is #1 in RPI but I think it is because of there are a lot of above average teams and not too many bad ones…not because the league is very powerful.
by mundyscorner99 on Feb 4, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Middle of the pack would make that team a bubble team.
I don’t think Babb, Edwards and Buie would’ve helped that much.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Perhaps
But middle of the pack in the B10 this year is in the Purdue Indiana Minnesota level. PSU beat Purdue and was very competitive against the other two teams. I don’t think they’d be a bubble team but could probably win around 7 games.
by mundyscorner99 on Feb 4, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
I guess we really can't make any predictions...
…Babb was the only guy we know of that definitely would have helped out. Dude could shoot the ball. Edwards was alright. Buie, guess we will never know. What a waste of talent, kid couldn’t get his act together.
The Buie thing drives me crazy.
I was hoping Chambers would give him a shot to right himself. Could have been useful.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Whatever it was seemed too messy.
Still, it was a shame to lose another body. Especially Battle’s little brother.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
I'll buy that
Like I said, I’m not intimately familiar with this team. If the problem is, after a few pretty good years with Battle, in 2012 we literally have not one single player on the team that can consistently shoot (Tim Frazier is comfortably within the bounds of this description), then I’m even more pleased that we had a coaching change and look forward to seeing what Chambers can do in recruiting.
This team would have gotten DeChellis fired.
They play harder under and better under Chambers than they ever would have under Eddie D.
DeChellis is a good guy, but Curley made the absolute right call in not giving into his extension demand. Chambers is a better coach.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Losing the players we did from last year's team didn't help
And we have a bad combination of youth and players that would be good role players for other teams but not starters. Other than Frazier and (probably) Marshall I’m not sure if any of the guys out there for PSU would play significant minutes for any other team. I think this year will be the worst for awhile and things will improve.
by mundyscorner99 on Feb 4, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Nice block from Graham.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
This is painful to watch.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
I was going to try and say something ridiculously positive
but… yeah, it kind of sucks. Patience and faith, I guess.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
They hustle and work hard. THey're fun to watch most of the time.
But they can’t put the ball in the hoop.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
It's frustrating as hell.
I know there are good things coming in Happy Valley, and we were spoiled last year, and yada yada blah words, but no matter how hard I try to focus on all the good things it’s still frustrating to watch solid looks go to waste.
They’ll get better, though. And they really are an exciting team to watch.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Gotta love a team that does work like they do.
Chambers is a hustler on the recruiting trail as well, and it shows.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
They're incredibly lovable this year.
My favorite joke is about how Penn State basketball is like a high school boyfriend. It stresses me out bad one minute and then makes me ridiculously happy the next.
And Chambers really was a great hire. That personality is fantastic to have on campus. I love seeing him around.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Fixed.
My favorite joke is about how Penn State basketball is likea high school boyfriendevery good relationship ever. It stresses me out bad one minute and then makes me ridiculously happy the next.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
by Adam Collyer on Feb 4, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That sounds about right.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
The crazy ones are the only ones that are worth it.
:)
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
That also sounds about right.
I’m too young and stupid to want to be an emotionally mature human being, though.
Are you thinking of delving into writing romantic advice? Because a ‘Dear Adam’ feature may be one of the most popular posts in the history of BSD. I would read it.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Trust me, you don't want that.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Oh, I think I do.
And I think I’d be willing to pay money if you’d stuff every response with as many basketball/football metaphors as possible. There is not a single way that could fail.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
One good thing about this game - definitely nice to see Oliver hustling out there.
Hate to see his career end because of the migraines, etc.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
Pretty psyched that we made that lay up after the steal
Not kidding, I thought it was a 50/50 chance of a miss
Not a great line from the commentator right there for a PSU game
“I thought I heard flesh on flesh right there!”
That's starting to look like something vaguely resembling an offense.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Great shot by Frazier there
You’d think we’d have lucked into more baskets by now. Too bad it seems like the defense is sagging, understandably when you’re on the road and down by over 20 in the second half.
Luck doesn't really seem to be on their side this year.
They’ve had really nice defensive flashes today. I think you’re right, it’s gotta be rough for them. Every once in a while I’m reminded of and subsequently shocked by how young this team is.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Sigh
I wish they wouldn’t get me excited and then give up a shot while playing good defense. Everything bouncing Iowa’s way.
If they could turn "nice defensive flashes"
into “nice defense” my heart rate would be much calmer during these games.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Yeeeaaah Tim!
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Are you, me, and Swish really the only three left?
Congratulations, fellow Penn State basketball fans.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
I'm just happy to see a basketball thread over 50 comments
I mean, I don’t catch every game and I’m not a huge fan, but the Chambers era starts with getting some otherwise dedicated sports fans excited about basketball.
I love this comment.
Yes times a hundred. Get excited and stick around, we’ll have something good going soon.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
There were a few more earlier.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
This is more than 3 times what they ended the first with.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
If they could have made anything in the first half OR stayed out of foul trouble in the first half, they'd be in this at the end
But having done neither, it was just too much to overcome. Kind of heartening to know that going down by like 25 in the first half we can still almost get back in a road game against a decent team.
No shortage of effort in these guys. Wish they had a Danny Morrissey type that could just shoot.
@JPosnanski - I saw a girl crying tonight. When I asked why she said: "Because everybody lost."
#OccupyESPN
They're definitely on the upswing.
Hopefully, we’ll be on their path in 2 years.
by Chris Grovich on Feb 4, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Really nice effort in the second half.
We’ve got a lot to look forward to.
"I just wanted to thank you for everything you've done for this university." "Oh, I haven't done enough." - Joe Paterno.
Perspective
What do we have as far as players go?
Returnees from last year: Billy oliver – bench player, Cam Woodyard – bench player, Jermaine Marshall – bench player, Sasa B – bench player, Tim Frazier – starting PG.
I mean c’mon. Are we forgetting how much bench production ED got out of these guys last year?
The talent drop off as a group from last year to this is huge. Three of our starters are first year players at PSU: Travis, Graham and Glover. As a JUCO transfer I expected a little more offense out of Glover, but memories of Stanley Pringle have my expectations jaded.
These guys play hard and defend well and run a good half court offense – but they just can’t finish – ie score. They’ll get better. They have to. I think PC will see to it. More PT competition from Akosa and Brandon Taylor will push things forward.
To think of what this coaching staff has gotten out of the current roster gives me confidence that better times are ahead.
newbill
was the A-10 freshman of the year, im really excited to see what he can do with frazier and marshall next year
He was on the C-USA all-freshmen team.
Southern Miss apparently doesn’t miss him. They’re 20-3 on the year and leading C-USA.
That kid who tackled Talor Battle. @BSD_Eric. Black Shoe Diaries
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on foulshots for iowa when we only got to the line 7 times, i missed the game first time this season were the refs a tad hometeam favoring or were we just not that aggresive in trying to get to the line?
We shot like thirty threes.
We lost all aggressiveness in the 2nd half and started chucking up 3s. Luckily, they were falling in the 2nd half.
That kid who tackled Talor Battle. @BSD_Eric. Black Shoe Diaries




























