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While Mr. Grovich is gallivanting around a small Caribbean island nation (for tax purposes, we cannot disclose his location), the rest of us are forced to work tirelessly to keep BSD running smoothly. And if we don't see smuggled bottles of tequila upon his return, expect a strike. This isn't Nam, there are rules.
In NFL Combine Numbers News. Fight on State has your empirical data, with which you may use as ammo at your local watering hole this weekend when debating the proper placement for Devon Still in the latest mock draft.
The Good: Johnnie Troutman tiedfor 8th among OLprospects with 31 reps on the bench; Chaz Powell clocked the 12th best 40-yard dash time among defensive backs; Jack Crawford ranked in the top 15 among defensive linemen in both the broad jump (a long jump, NOT jumping over women) and the three cone drill
The Bad: Derek Moye only put up 10 reps on the bench; Johnnie Troutman posted a 5.67 40-yard dash time; Devon Still did not place in the top 15 of any of his drills, and was given a grade of 89.0 by whomever writes the grades at NFL.com
In Devon Still Praising Joe Paterno News. Devon Still praised Joe Paterno.
"I think highly of coach Paterno. I think he's the reason why I am who I am today. Being under his program, it helped me grow as a person, it will help me grow as a football player and also becoming the father I am today. I've been through a lot as I've (gone) through Penn State, but I think that's just helped me grow mentally. I wasn't as mature when I first got to Penn State as I am now. I credit that all to coach Paterno."
In "Jack Crawford? Really? Good, I Hope That Happens" News. Crawford is hoping to hear his name called next month at the 2012 NFL Draft, and apparently some analysts think he will.
Crawford is ranked as one of the top 20 defensive ends in many draft rankings by pro scouts and draft experts. Several mock drafts have Crawford landing somewhere in the fourth or fifth-round range.
Crawford was something of a lightning rod of frustration during his tenure at Penn State - he had the physical tools and looked great on paper, but appeared lost at times on the field. Hopefully he can catch on with a team and make an impact in the NFL. At the very least, his British accent ($) will provide ample entertainment for any locker room.
In Women's Volleyball Loses A Match But It's OK News. A volleyball team from the U.S. Army was on campus last weekend, preparing for the Warrior Games in Colorado in April. Except it wasn't your normal volleyball. And the ladies couldn't get enough.
In We're All Ears News. The Penn State Board of Trustees, that rag-tag group of scoundrels everyone loves to hate, started its Listening Tour(with special opening act Kool and the Gang), meeting with students, faculty, and other groups at Penn State.
The university said in a statement released this weekend that board members met with students, faculty, staff and alumni last week. Chairwoman Karen Peetz had announced after taking over as the board's new leader last month that trustees would hold such gatherings.
"The meetings are part of our continuing listening efforts, in particular for the new leadership," Peetz said in the statement. "The information we are gathering is critical to formulating our plans for the future."
In Penn State Quarterbacks In The Past 10 Years...Woof News. Paul Myerberg of Pre-Snap Read finally gets to Penn State in his post-season wrap up of the year that was (2011). The opener is a bit of a downer if not pretty spot on, while the rest of the recap is pretty accurate. And reliving this was fun
Low point A 45-7 loss to Wisconsin in the regular season finale was joined by a 30-14 loss to Houston in the TicketCity Bowl. Penn State’s performance against the Cougars in one word: listless. Another: disinterested. A third: pitiful.
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From a football perspective...
I had forgotten about the end of the 2011 season. Even the W in the Shoe doesn’t mean as much to me now as I thought.
But thanks for bringing back those memories Jeff!
And for what its worth, I hope that PSU crashes the #BOBSled right into Bielema this season. Let the blood feud of blow-out games continue.
The win in the Horseshoe was the highlight of the season...
The Lion Roars No More (1926-2012)
The Iowa, Illinois, and OSU games this year
were really special to me.
by FB6244 on Mar 2, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Iowa WAS awesome
so was Illinois, which is strange because they were UGLY games
by Artiefufkin10 on Mar 2, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
History will look back at that Illinois game as somewhat legendary
Paterno’s last game, a low scoring but crazy back and forth game with some good defense, a late rally by Illinois fails on an FG off the upright into the student section after they closed ranks behind the goal. Check out the youtube video of the team’s jubilant celebration on the field right after the kick. We didn’t know it, but that game was Joe’s goodbye to Penn State.
by PSUCharmas on Mar 2, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
2nd greatest
experience for football at penn state in my life…number one as a student …first one was beating troy smith at beaver stadium…had a white out, stormed the field, celebrated in front of gameday post game, amazing experience …for the illini game i was right in the middle of the field goal posts…having other students migrate over was unreal
I was at the OSu game
In 2002, when JoePa beat the Bear, that was insane. Loudest crowd I ever heard, the place just went insane towards the end when we started coming back and took the lead.
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
IT'S BLOCKED!
What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem.
I occasionally Tweet at @MAyneLyon.
Being in Columbus
for the 08 game was by far the best for me. And that’s only because I can barely remember the 05 game.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
I was in the student section "S" zone for that 08 game in CMH
just an epic game. The feeling afterwards was one of the highest highs of my life!
We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.
by mikeissurreal on Mar 2, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Also Didn't expect Tater to make an appearance..which begs the question...
Most satisfying win over Michigan..
2008? – Down early, but came back to kick their asses in the 2nd half.
2009? – Give up a quick early TD, but then dominate them all game after that (I can still picture AQ streaking for that wide open TD)
2010? – A mediocre to bad PSU offense lights up the Wolverines behind a ginger. Royster gets the record…
…oh happy days……….
Have to go with 2010 game
Was at that game and it was at night, just saw the women’s v-ball match before the game. Atmosphere was electric, more like…holy hell how are they playing on offense so well. Was win 399 as well, should have been 400 (damn illinios).
Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose - Janis Joplin
2008 broke the streak
And in the first half, it looked like the streak might continue. Then the wheels came off for Michigan and a year of bragging rights kicked in. Five years of bragging rights isn’t bad either.
"I just want everyone in this situation to man the fuck up and accept some of the responsibility." SwHA
This and the emergence of one Michael Mauti shutting down the Michigan ground game.
Striving for Success with Honor
by Frank O'Brien on Mar 2, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
2008
It was just… a release of “tension”, and doing so in that fashion? Loved it
She asked me who I wanted to have a three some with. I said "Why not Zoidberg?"
by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Mar 2, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I was officially on suicide watch
after the first half of the 08 game against michigan.
We have little tranquility but tons of tranquilizers.
by mikeissurreal on Mar 2, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Saw on "the twitter" that a big OL is heavily leaning towards PSU.
Should we be on siren watch this weekend? Or will the sirens take a break til hopefully Mr. Breneman makes his announcement.
I didn't see that, but you're probably referring to Brendan Mahon, from NJ.
He’s definitely on siren alert, but I haven’t seen anything to suggest it will happen any time soon.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
Hear anything else on Switzer delaying his announcement/decision?
"Every time you go to that cook-off you get drunk as a poet on payday!"
Not yet.
Could be legit, could be a smokescreen. Either way, I think it ends in PSU’s favor whenever the announcement arrives.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Some guys are great skills competition warriors . . .
Devon Still is a great football player.
"I think what the university did to him was grossly wrong" -- Mike Ditka
by SubLime on Mar 2, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, so Al Davis probably wouldn't draft him
But pretty much anyone else will.
Speaking of draft busts, did anyone see the evaluation of Jordan Jefferson? Apparently he is considered by many scouts to be the worst available QB option in the draft. This is the man that Les Miles hoped to beat Alabama with (and did once). I will agree to a gentleman’s duel with anyone who disagrees that strong defenseses were the sole reason for the low scores of both of those godawful games.
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My writing comprehension is apparently poor
I meant, and upon further inspection didn’t say, that the OMGALABAMALSUDominance was not in their defense, but rather their inneffective offenses, particularly against each other. Not to say that they didn’t have superb defenses, just that their offenses weren’t ‘unbelievable’
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The 3 cone drill?
Is that with yogurt or flat out plain Ice Cream?
" The Truth, the whole Truth, and nothing but the TRUTH, so help me God."
by DerryPharmer on Mar 2, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If this were true, Penn Staters would be kings at that
When you train with Creamery ice cream, everything else is just a warm-up.
"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
#OccupyESPN
Brandon Ware was an all-american
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by mikeissurreal on Mar 2, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
THat was the picture where they were discussing how tasty Devon Smith would be.
"It doesn't matter what people think of me," Joe said. "I've lived my life. I just hope the truth comes out. And I hope the victims find peace."
by BMAN13 on Mar 3, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
A couple that didn't make the cut apparently
Prosectors allege that Sandusky abused 8 kids on the PSU campus, and one apparently at the early 1999 bowl game.
Also, Maybe Danny O’Brien will come to Penn State?
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I tried to stay away from The Thing this time around, other than the BoT Listening Tour 2K12.
And Danny O’Brien…I’m not buying it.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
I loved Danny O'Brien two years ago and thought he suffered last year from the change in coaches
Why not buy it?
It certainly makes sense from Penn State’s sidelines…he’s better and more experienced than anyone else on the roster. I don’t see a huge downside; I’m guessing that the locker room isn’t all in on MM (if he ever plays again) or Bolden.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Would he have to sit out a season or could he come right in and play?
Not sure if he’s transferring or going to a different school after he graduated, ala Russel Wilson. If he’s gotta sit out a season, I don’t think it makes much sense to get him, especially with Hack coming in. But if he can play right away, I gotta figure it’s better than the options that the team has now.
play right away. He is a graduate, looking at grad school. Same as Wilson
just graduated with 2 years of eligibility
"It doesn't matter what people think of me," Joe said. "I've lived my life. I just hope the truth comes out. And I hope the victims find peace."
Yes, this.
That part is attractive to schools (two years of a proven talent, immediately available). For some reason, though, I just don’t see it. Hopefully I’m wrong…any added depth with experience will help with this QB crop.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I can't remember a D1 transfer ever playing significant minutes for PSU
but that was under the old regime (and I could be missing someone).
I think the risk to BOB and the coach’s is that the new guys in town essentially give a vote of no confidence to the current QBs. To the extent that the rest of the locker-room is already bought in on these guys, it could backfire. On the other hand, if the locker room realizes that the guys on the roster aren’t good enough for the team to realize its goals, then I think folks would support it.
This would be easier if it wasn’t BOB’s first year both politically and from an adminstrative standpoint, because I’m sure his plate is busy enough without having to try to recruit a transfer QB.
It’s an interesting thing to think about and a good QB controversy would be welcome this offseason, imo.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I'm pretty sure we had an OL starter in the late 80's who transferred in
from SMU when they got the death penalty. The name escapes me, though.
"I guess we had a couple of Catholics praying for US!" - JVP, after the down to the wire win over Notre Dame in 1987
Craig James killed 5 hookers while at SMU
Allegedly
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by jman07 on Mar 2, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I think he graduated
So it would be something like Wilson, only IIRC, he has two years of eligibility.
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait for it to stop rolling and then pick it up" Bob Uecker
He can play right away -- and he has two season of eligibility left
He’s already graduated, so per NCAA rules if he enrolls in a graduate program that Maryland doesn’t offer, then he can play right away.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
I thought the NCAA closed that loophole
just after Wilson transferred last year.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012
Was there a problem with the Wilson thing?
I don’t really remember how many people got up in arms over it. The bigger backlash came during that Oregon transfer (don’t remember his name), because that was clearly exploiting the rules. IIRC. I didn’t think people got too upset over the Russel Wilson thing due to the uniqueness of his situation at NC state
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Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
I don't think anyone was upset over Wilson,
Masoli caused the problem, but I thought that I heard that Wilson was going to be the last one allowed to do that.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012
And I must have been wrong,
because I haven’t read anything saying that the waiver process ended and I did read that O’Brien would be eligible if he went to another school that had a major that was not offered at Maryland.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." Joseph Vincent Paterno 1926-2012
I heard that too.
Could have sworn it was closed. Is it possible O’Brien is looking at grad school, sitting out, planning to play in 2013 since he has two more years?
"Today we have experienced a great loss. This loss is incomparable to what we gained from coach Paterno." - Mike Wallace
Masoli wasn't even the first
Greg Paulus did it the year before when he left Duke and went to Syracuse.
Fire Dan Snyder
it's not a loophole, IIRC
it’s a built in rule. it makes complete sense to me—if a player has already graduated and transfers to a school, taking grad classes in a field that his old school doesn’t offer (that’s the rule)? He’s already fulfilled his side of the “contract” in the student part of student athlete.
Fire Dan Snyder
I buy it from a talent perspective, I just don't see BOB going after a transfer his first year.
I don’t know, just a gut feeling, I suppose.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think BOB should go AFTER him
That would be a slap in the face to McGloin and Bolden.
But if Danny wants to enroll at PSU as a grad student, I see nothing wrong with allowing him to compete for the spot as a walk-on.
Some people march to a different drummer...and some people polka.
Why does it matter?
There are times I think some guys could use a slap in the face, whether it’s for the purposes of motivation or humility.
BOB doesn’t need to tie himself to either McGloin or Bolden, especially since he’s a new coach and had nothing to do with these guys previously. They’re here to win games and graduate players, not pamper kids’ feelings. If he feels they need a QB, then I think he owes it to the team to use every outlet he has to get a better QB.
Danny isn't gonna take us to a National Championship next year.
He might be good, but he’s not THAT good.
I just don’t see where he’s so much better that we’d win anymore games than we would with McGloin or Bolden.
Nothing against Danny. Let him walk-on if he wants to.
I just don’t think he’ll make a big enough difference to make him worth going after.
Some people march to a different drummer...and some people polka.
Really?
Danny O’Brien is really good.
There were people calling for Shane McGregor to get a shot last year. I don’t think we should neccesarily go after him, but saying he isn’t superior to what he have is NOT a reason I feel that way.
by Why did I Graduate? on Mar 2, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
He was "superior" in a weak ACC schedule
Not in the Big 10.
Some people march to a different drummer...and some people polka.
That was what they said about Wilson.
"This is being a Penn State fan. We’ll prove it, or we won’t. It’s not about proving it to them, it’s about proving to ourselves."
Yes, and could he really be worse than McGolden?
Is that even possible? Redshirt Bolden. Let the other guys settle it and hope that Jones is a stud. That’s my wish list right now.
"I just want everyone in this situation to man the fuck up and accept some of the responsibility." SwHA
I understand the high hopes for Jones.
But man, can the guy ever get out of the academic doghouse? And then the question becomes, if he’s struggling that much in the classroom, what’s he going to do with a more sophisticated playbook?
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, Dan Marino didn't seem to have too much trouble with the playbook
and he can’t count more than four lines of coke on that table.
Terry Bradshaw wasn’t known for his brain. Vince Young, Ryan Leaf (in college for both) and Mike Vick probably never cracked their playbooks. Actually, Vick has admitted as much during his time in Atlanta. I don’t know that there’s as high correlation between intellect and playing quarterback as Ron Jaworski would like us to think.
"I just want everyone in this situation to man the fuck up and accept some of the responsibility." SwHA
The difference, though,
is that while all of those guys named may be dumb as rocks, they at least were eligible to play. Jones can’t even get over that hurdle. He could be a Heisman trophy caliber QB, but if he can’t get the grades to even get on the field, we’ll never know.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was easier to get eligible at Lousiana Tech in 1968 than at PSU today
I would bet the same for Pitt and Washington State. You might have a point for VT and Texas.
"I just want everyone in this situation to man the fuck up and accept some of the responsibility." SwHA
Thank god
Jaws isn’t doing MNF anymore. He’s the worst.
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things."
Do you think he can say NFL?
Or did he make a bet that he would always say “National Football League”?
"I just want everyone in this situation to man the fuck up and accept some of the responsibility." SwHA
To play QB...
well you have to be able to process information at a rapid pace or be a really gifted athlete. You don’t need to be intelligent in a book sense.
"Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room." - Churchill
by Esteban d' Amur on Mar 2, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I could tell you all the subtle nuances of quantum theory
And not have a clue about a playbook.
Having above average intelligence certainly bodes well for learning a playbook, but I don’t think being ‘academically inept’ is necessarily a precursor to not understanding a playbook.
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How about "minimum basic skills"?
We’re not talking about writing A Brief History of Time here. Jones can’t get the minimum qualification numbers. Minimum.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
You think TP would have qualified academically at PSU?
Although I do hear that OSU’s “Exploring” major has produced some high calibre individuals. If I’m not mistaken, Hudson himself founded the college that now houses the major.
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Maybe, maybe not.
You think Jones is a pre-med major? Minimum is minimum, there can’t be too much flexibility among schools, at least in the Big Ten, where academics is emphasized.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
There are stories of guys leaving O$U after 2-3 years
with barely a semester’s worth of credits that other schools will accept. I don’t think that all B1G schools are created equally when it comes to their commitment to academics; though they’re probably all better than FSU or Arkansas.
"I just want everyone in this situation to man the fuck up and accept some of the responsibility." SwHA
Maybe that's true, I don't know.
Either way, I just can’t get past the fact that Jones can’t make the minimum grades. After two years.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with the Jones part
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Knowing the level of support that athletes get at PSU
but especially what the football team gets, I share your frustration.
"I just want everyone in this situation to man the fuck up and accept some of the responsibility." SwHA
I've read the same stories
I think in general B1G programs are better about their players getting worthwhile degrees than other conferences, but I have a hard time seeing OSU as much more than a football factory, especially during Tressel’s tenure.
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I had a prof at my undergrad
Who got his PhD from OSU, and said in class that he had a football player in his class, and was told in no uncertain terms, that guy passes no matter what he does. Pretty much this is how OSU worked. This was early 2000s
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Speaking of which, is there any update on Jone's academic standing?
I realize it’s the middle of the semester so we might have to wait until the end to find out if he’ll be eligible for next season, but any indication would be welcome (especially if it’s good).
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by Succss With Honor Always on Mar 2, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
He's not walking on,
And even suggesting it would be a slap in the face to him.
Where did I say anything about a national championship?
The fact is that McGloin and Bolden just are not very good, and BOB doesn’t owe them anything. Honestly, I didn’t watch DannyO, so I’m not fully cognizant of his skills or abilities, but I’m confident in saying he is better than what we currently have, mainly because I know what we have and it’s crap.
Well then that's it
That’s not giving everybody a clean slate and fair chance to compete for the position.
That’s assuming that our guys are “crap” and we’re desperate for outside help.
I’m just as disappointed as everybody else when our guys don’t do as well as we want. But it just rubs me the wrong way to give up on them like that.
It isn’t the “right” way of doing things.
JMHO.
Some people march to a different drummer...and some people polka.
"Give up on them like that"
They’ve had 2 years to prove they aren’t capable. 2 years. Look, BOB might be a QB guru but even he can turn a turd sandwich into a filet mignon.
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait for it to stop rolling and then pick it up" Bob Uecker
What don't you understand about "clean slate"???
I really don’t care what they did for the last 2 years.
I want to see what they can do in the next 2 with a coach who isn’t Jay Paterno.
Some people march to a different drummer...and some people polka.
Ok.
So what happens if, come fall, they are still who they have shown them to be?
Next time try a little less condescension.
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait for it to stop rolling and then pick it up" Bob Uecker
Then I suppose some people will think it's the End of the World
because we had an 8-4 season and went to a whats-its-name-this-year? bowl.
"Success is never final. Failure is never fatal."
~ Joe Paterno
Some people march to a different drummer...and some people polka.
They can still compete,
It just wouldn’t be much of a competition, most likely.
Your use of the phrase “clean slate” seems a little liberal. Are they not supposed to evaluate the current players based on previous games?
I know what you’re saying, but the coaches have a job to do. They’re not going to do an incomplete job simply because they might hurt some kids feelings.
Am I allowed to change my mind?
I still believe in giving McGloin and Bolden a “clean slate”,
but this morning I boned-up a little more on Danny…
I’m still not convinced that he’s THAT much “superior” to our guys, but I’m impressed by his early graduation.
Also, I’m not sure why Maryland is imploding and suffering a mass exodus, but something pretty bad has to be happening there for so many kids to bail out.
So I’m willing to throw Danny a lifeline. I hate to see his world get turned upside-down by whatever hamfisted shenanigans Maryland’s AD and coach are doing down there.
Give Danny a scholarship and let him compete with McGloin and Bolden, then we’ll see who’s best. It’ll be good for all three of them.
Besides, somebody has to pick up Danny. It might as well be us.
Some people march to a different drummer...and some people polka.
by Willie Green on Mar 3, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, Danny O'Brien isn't walking on anywhere.
If there IS mutual interest, you take a player like Danny O’Brien. I don’t have my numbers in front of me, but I believe we have at least one open spot (that will probably go to a former walk-on senior if DOB doesn’t take it).
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Shouldn’t a scholarship be open because of Oakman?
Some guy at PSU Hershey Med Center just discovered a virus that eats cancer. Where were the CNN trucks for that? THON will probably break $10 mil this year. Put that on "Outside the Lines".
Yes.
And I’m quite sure they took one fewer recruits in 2012 than they needed to, so 2 scholarships should currently be open (from what I remember).
Those are my numbers, as well.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Didnt BoB have some good walk on
Like 2 weeks ago, coul dhe have taken the schollie?
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More downside than upside
I going after Danny O’Brien will have more downside than upside. Yes, having a proven guy under center would be major upside.
I just have a bad feeling about the effect that would have on not just our current QB’s but pretty much the entire team. This group of guys, and the recently signed guys, have stuck with PSU football and bought into BOB and the new regime.
I see a lot of risk bringing a transfer in — seems a little too “have to win now” than the team will be up for swallowing. Just seems like the kind of thing that can turn bad with what the guys have been thru since November.
If he enrolls and walks-on that’s different and I’m OK with that.
I actually want to see what BOB and staff can do with who we have.
I'd disagree
If BOB had the choice of bringing in someone who could help the team win more games, why would the rest of the team be against that?
I’d think people would know that BOB didn’t bring in either McGloin or Bolden. If he wants to bring his own guy in, are people really going to fault him for that?
Right.
I wouldn’t fault him for going after DOB and bringing him in, I just don’t see him actually doing that.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I see your point
but I in the context of current PSU football – entirely new offensive staff who has yet to actually run a practice – abandoning the guys you have inherited before you’ve tried to work with them is not a situation I’d favor for my college team.
I want to win as much as anyone and if BOB and staff can turn around Bolden or McGloin into even a serviceable QB I’d only be more surprised if I woke up with my head sewn to the carpet.
BOB spoke of loyalty to his team when giving reasons for his staying with the Patriots (he had other reasons too).
We have Steven Bench coming in, who may be actually easier to work with than to fix Bolden and McGloin. And with this week’s Hackenberg commit that’s another coming (I am in the get a QB every year camp).
Get thru the B/W game if Bolden/McGloin or Jones don’t seem to be options go get DOB – at least give the current 3 a shot on the field with the new system.
Just my opinion, I respect if others disagree. Maybe I’m too loyal.
The Patriots
Are also the team who cut a guy the day before the Super Bowl. The loyalty BOB was talking about seemed different. Loyalty to a team, not specific players.
I understand wanting to run practices before making final decisions. But why not court DannyO in the meantime, before you run practices? Also, there are sometimes when coaches can see what they have on tape. I doubt McGloin or Bolden have improved since this past fall. If BOB doesn’t want to saddle himself with the lamest horses in the conference, I’d think people would understand.
I will add that I’d like to see what Jones can do.
Yes, BOB’s loyalty was more to his employer and team than any player(s). At the same time he purposely used it as an example lesson in loyalty to his future team.
I don’t doubt that the coaches already have a pretty solid idea of who they have, and not just at QB. They know QB is the weakest spot on the squad.
Wherever DOB goes, it will be with an understanding that he is the guy for at least the first of his 2 remaining years. I just have this feeling that Moxie McGloin will be locker room poison if “his spot” is taken by a transfer. And that could just mess up the team more than it’s worth.
This is just a bad feeling I have on bringing in a transfer that I can’t shake. I do definitely see the positive on other side of this.
My reasoning for being apprehensive --
I live in Michigan – not far from Ann Arbor – and had a mostly neutral (I do hate UofM ) sideline view of the Rich Rod debacle. Having seen that I’m a little hyper-sensitive to things that can disrupt team chemistry, player morale and support of a new coaching staff – especially a staff made of outsiders. I see Danny O’Brien as something that can go wrong. If this were O’Brien’s 3rd or 4th year and the team and alum support were both high and he’s proven himself some I wouldn’t hesitate to bring Danny in.
McGloin's a wlk-on who earned himself a full-ride scholarship
and not necessarily through his play. If BO’B wants to bring in DO’B, that’s his perrogative, and if that upsets McGloin, well, tough shit.
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while I'm not a fan of McGloin necessarily
Nothing I saw from him, on the field or publicly off, in 2011 would make me think that he would be
locker room poison if "his spot" is taken by a transfer
in 2010, yes, definitely. But by the end of last season, we saw a different McGloin—more of a team player IMO. And after the fight or whatever it was, he at least attempted to take responsiblity for his actions and said there was no excuse for what he did.
Fire Dan Snyder
He took responsibility, but I saw it as an attempt to assert himself as a team leader.
And there is nothing wrong with that. It’s just hard to be a team leader if the guy who showed up five minutes ago gets your job. There’s enough history of ego/moxie with McGloin to suggest that he would not handle that well.
"I just want everyone in this situation to man the fuck up and accept some of the responsibility." SwHA
it's also hard to be a team leader
when you get knocked out by a WR
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by hbeach08 on Mar 2, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I think he had to take responsibility because he’s the hot-head that turned the situation into a fight.
I don’t know for sure how McGloin or anyone else on the team would respond to having a transfer come in. McGloin at least has a track-record of being a bit of an a-hole.
Honestly, I really like what we’ve been hearing about the team and the staff during winter workouts. Put me in the low population group that would rather avoid the theoretical and non-guaranteed team dividing situation that I’m inventing even if it means the team may not be as good in 2012.
Cari makes a reasonable point
And if he does happen to become a poison, I’m sure BOB would have no problem asking him to leave the team. If you’re not on board with the “team” part of it, then see ya.
Umm, what?
The receiver corps was decimated by graduation
Some of what Paul Myerberg said was good, some (such as the quote above) shows he has some of his facts messed up. Talked about Redd tailing off down the stretch, which is true, but it isn’t noted that he was banged up.
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wait, going into last year?
we had what? Two WRs graduate? And Zug was below expectations his senior year, his junior year is when he kicked ass.
That’s surely decimated :/
Fire Dan Snyder
No no, even worse
He was referring to what BOB was walking into. Apparently losing one WR counts as decimation.
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I love hypebole.
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We should start calling it hyperbola, that way we can work towards a new tangent.
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bacon flavored whiskey
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A few weeks ago
Someone put up an awesome recipe for Bacon Flavored Vodka. I did not save it, and now regret it
Whittle your whiskey around like blazes, t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?
I'm taking a one day class on bacon in a couple of weeks
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
And there's this
The secondary lost the majority of last year’s leading contributors
If by majority he means all 4 starters, then yes, the majority was lost. Me thinks he got confused between WR and DB. That’s the only thing that makes sense.
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait for it to stop rolling and then pick it up" Bob Uecker
Like Kuntz and Tongue
we could have them plugged in on either side of the ball.
"It doesn't matter what people think of me," Joe said. "I've lived my life. I just hope the truth comes out. And I hope the victims find peace."
by BMAN13 on Mar 2, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not surprised by Moye's lack of strength
one of his big knocks was he became ineffective in press coverage. He’ll be a good slot option for a team though, and maybe he can bulk up a little more and get better off the line once he’s on a team.
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A guy like him would have thrived with the new S&C I think..
He seems like he really needs more core-strength.
His height and speed is great. I think he’s a project for an NFL team.
by Artiefufkin10 on Mar 2, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
A guy like him would have thrived with the new S&C I think..
He seems like he really needs more core-strength.
His height and speed is great. I think he’s a project for an NFL team.
by Artiefufkin10 on Mar 2, 2012 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
wow, you must really believe it huh?
jk, hasn’t he been training full time since January though? you would think he would have gaine a little strength.
Fire Dan Snyder
Eh..
I’m not a S&C nut but I think there are a lot of benefits with the muscle isolation you get with actual weights rather than machines. I have no science to back this up ;-)
I think Moye gets drafted, but as we saw the past few years…a CB who can play close bump and run will often knock the ball away from him. He needs to use his size to his advantage and he hasn’t done that much.
by Artiefufkin10 on Mar 2, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
but his size makes him a good prospect
NFL teams need WRs of varying sizes, speed, builds, skill sets, etc. Moye’s advantage is that he’s a pretty unique guy in that he’s really tall with (supposedly) really good hands and enough speed to compete. He’ll get drafted, but I think he could either end up all-pro within three years or never really playing at all.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
Good assessment...
I love Moye and he’s been one of my favorite players. He instantly changed the 2011 Illinois game as soon as he steppe don the field (remember, he was hurt and when they threw him in late, Illinois freaked out).
I just think he needs to be able to grab a ball over a 5’10" CB with his size and he hasn’t shown that too much.
by Artiefufkin10 on Mar 2, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, NFL coaching is either going to make him blossom or
completely fall. I think Stan Hixon might be the best next coach on the staff; it would have been interesting to see what he would have done with Moye on positioning and technique.
I wouldn't trust old rooster me neither.
He was working on his speed, which surprised many people by being in the low 4.5's.
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
They must not have watched
him play last year or they would know he was fast. After all, it was him who ran down the OMGSECCCCCC SPEEED defensive back. I think I heard the guy he ran down runs a 3.31 40.
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait for it to stop rolling and then pick it up" Bob Uecker
I think he is actually faster than that.
Running in a sprint like they do is a disadvantage for a lanky guy like Moye that didn’t train as a sprinter. He was a state hurdle champion in high school so the top end is there.
"It doesn't matter what people think of me," Joe said. "I've lived my life. I just hope the truth comes out. And I hope the victims find peace."
Training Where?
If he knew he was going to be judged on bench, then he’s physically very weak, didn’t train very hard or he’s injured. None of these are good.
IMG Academies, Bradenton
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Today's PSU celeb sighting
Galen Hall in the barber chair next to me getting a trim! Wearing a full PSU track suit and running shoes that didn’t really go with the outfit. I didn’t talk to him but I overheard some the chatter. Says he’s not really busy right now, just getting stuff done around the house. Just got back from Florida – Jacksonville and Gainesville.
That women's vball match was much better than OK
Thanks for the link Junny. Great to see the women participate in something like this.
I certainly don’t want to make light of the incredible sacrifice these guys have made but I might give up a body part to roll around on the floor with these girls.
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Um....
"It’s not sore but it’s on fire," Fuller said of her backside,
Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/2012/02/28/3106427/nittany-lions-competitive-nature.html#storylink=cpy
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by Jeff Junstrom on Mar 2, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Watched the video of that
And saw that it looked like many or most of the army guys could walk ok and most seemed to have the two legs they were born with, so I’m a bit unclear on why they’d be on that team. Perhaps they have other injuries that prevent them from jumping? Etc. I’m not being critical, I just have a semi-vocational interest in prosthetics and suchlike.
And it’s great that there are teams like this to give the guys a chance to compete and be appreciated.
You could tell that the women’s team was way into it.
Glad to see everyone's workin' for the weekend.
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I’m ready to start drinking.
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its Listening Tour(with special opening act Kool and the Gang)
I thought Kool and the Gang was opening for Van Halen on the current tour?
/seriously, I think they are opening for Van Halen on the current tour
//whiskey tango foxtrot?
They are.
And them opening for either tour makes no sense.
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