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The Familiar Fallout: Poll Drops, BCS Position, Next Week's Lines

Yeah, it wasn't pretty.  But it's time to take stock and look forward.

Polls. Penn State will end the season with just two ranked teams on the schedule - Wisconsin is on a two year break - and for the second time Paterno & Co. played too safe for their own good. 

The Iowa game could be rationalized as an anomaly, the weather and blocked punt weren't expected or advantageous, but getting dominated by an Ohio State defense means this coping mechanism from the Iowa game is now much more truth and much less fun:


(Okay, but still a lot of fun.)

Now with a little more reality to go on, the polls were pretty punishing.  The Coaches' say 17th.  That puts Penn State behind fellow two-lossers OSU, USC, LSU, Miami and Oregon. It's a similar story from the Harris.

Random bullets:

  • The humans seem to have overreacted to Iowa's Stanziless loss. If Oklahoma was allowed to stay ranked for no reason simply because they lost their quarterback, I don't understand why the Hawkeyes shouldn't get the same treatment. They are 12 and 13 with the humans, but still 9th in the computers.
  • Probably a similar over-reaction for Ohio State, but obviously in the opposite direction. They jump all the way up to 8 in the polls but stay outside the BCS top 10 because of a T-13 computer ranking.
  • Both these last two points are extremely temporary, though, because they'll shift mightily depending on the outcome of next week's game.
  • And if you want proof that timing and reputation are way more important than records: USC is 10 in the human polls with two losses, Oregon is 14 and 16 with the same record.  Not only did Oregon beat USC like no one else in the last 5 years, but they also have essentially the same exact resume: one win over a top 15 team, one loss to a top 15 team, and one inexcusable defeat to a Pac-10 mediocre squad.  Nice, right?

BCS.  Fugimaster runs down the BCS rankings and has your poll positions for the final BCS at-larges:

I think we can pretty confidently move TCU and Alabama into the "safe" column, and LSU would be eliminated by the 2 teams per conference rule (Thanks IcersGuy) so that leaves USC, Miami, Boise, and us for the final 2 at-larges. Is it a long shot? Probably, but stranger things have happened. I'm not giving up hope until December 5.

So there you have it, with the big assumption that Penn State wins out, of course.  I suspect the reaction to this for a lot of you is "OMG BCS? STFU!" but let's keep things in perspective.  Winning out is in the cards and anything can happen in a bowl game.

Lines. Vegas sent out the opens tonight as usual.  Penn State is favored by 22 next week against Indiana, a line 70% of the betters think is too high.  This lends credibility to the Pateroism that you're never as bad as they say you are after a loss.  Plus it's still Indiana, although they've played Wisconsin, Iowa, Northwestern and Michigan all extremely tough.

Some other lines of note:

  • Wisconsin is a 9.5 point favorite against Michigan
  • Illinois is finally favored in a game again, -4 against Northwestern
  • Ohio State is a 13.5 point favorite against Iowa

And by the way, that OSU-Iowa game is one of only two contests between ranked opponents this week.  The other one is an underwhelming Utah vs. TCU.  The higher ranked school is favored by 18 points in that one.